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Title: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 August 2014, 22:58:23
England are doing rather well!!  :y :y :y :y :y :y

I'm enjoying it and it's nice to see some of the small countries getting to compete on the big stage with the bigger countries and with some of the big stars like Usain Bolt!  :y :y :y

It's great that they are using 'Jerusalem' as England's national anthem, but why don't they do the same at England football and rugby match's?  ???  :-\
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 01 August 2014, 23:02:39
Used to be Land of Hope and Glory  >:(
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 August 2014, 23:07:20
Used to be Land of Hope and Glory  >:(

Yes that's right!  ::)  Wonder why they changed it to Jerusalem then?  :-\

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 01 August 2014, 23:09:28
Used to be Land of Hope and Glory  >:(

Yes that's right!  ::)  Wonder why they changed it to Jerusalem then?  :-\






probably because it offended somebody.  ::) :-X :D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 August 2014, 23:16:35
Lifted from the Wiki page for 'Land of Hope and Glory'  :y

Usage
Proposed anthem for England
Main article: National anthem of England
England currently has no agreed national anthem, with "God Save the Queen", the national anthem of the United Kingdom, often being used in sporting events in which England competes separately from the other Home Nations. However, there are calls for this to be changed,[5][6] and a 2006 survey conducted by the BBC suggested that 55% of the English public would rather have "Land of Hope and Glory" than "God Save the Queen" as their national anthem.[7]

Commonwealth Games
Prior to 2010, "Land of Hope and Glory" was used as the victory anthem of England team at the Commonwealth Games.[8]

On St George's Day, 23 April 2010, the Commonwealth Games Council for England launched a poll to allow the public to decide which anthem would be played at the 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi, India. Voters chose between "God Save The Queen", "Jerusalem" and "Land of Hope and Glory" with the winning song, "Jerusalem", being adopted as the official anthem for Team England.[9]
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 01 August 2014, 23:28:53
Still I prefer Land of Hope and Glory.  :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 August 2014, 23:44:50
Lifted from the Wiki page for 'Land of Hope and Glory'  :y

Usage
Proposed anthem for England
Main article: National anthem of England
England currently has no agreed national anthem, with "God Save the Queen", the national anthem of the United Kingdom, often being used in sporting events in which England competes separately from the other Home Nations. However, there are calls for this to be changed,[5][6] and a 2006 survey conducted by the BBC suggested that 55% of the English public would rather have "Land of Hope and Glory" than "God Save the Queen" as their national anthem.[7]

Commonwealth Games
Prior to 2010, "Land of Hope and Glory" was used as the victory anthem of England team at the Commonwealth Games.[8]

On St George's Day, 23 April 2010, the Commonwealth Games Council for England launched a poll to allow the public to decide which anthem would be played at the 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi, India. Voters chose between "God Save The Queen", "Jerusalem" and "Land of Hope and Glory" with the winning song, "Jerusalem", being adopted as the official anthem for Team England.[9]

The version by the Sex Pistols was best. :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Rog on 02 August 2014, 09:05:28
Still I prefer Land of Hope and Glory.  :y

I like what Bill Connolly once suggested. it should be The Archers music  :y (actually called Barwick Green)

Certainly better than the dirge that is used at present

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Rog on 02 August 2014, 09:06:28
Lifted from the Wiki page for 'Land of Hope and Glory'  :y

Usage
Proposed anthem for England
Main article: National anthem of England
England currently has no agreed national anthem, with "God Save the Queen", the national anthem of the United Kingdom, often being used in sporting events in which England competes separately from the other Home Nations. However, there are calls for this to be changed,[5][6] and a 2006 survey conducted by the BBC suggested that 55% of the English public would rather have "Land of Hope and Glory" than "God Save the Queen" as their national anthem.]


The version by the Sex Pistols was best. :y

Damn right   :y

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2014, 11:03:21
I'm hoping that Scotland wins more medals than England.

This would embolden the scottish people to vote  'YES' to independence.

This would save the English taxpayer billions of pounds each year. ::) ::) ::) :)





Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 August 2014, 11:20:53
I'm sure that Salmond will claim that by winning lots of medals England are bullying Scotland which might end up in the same result!  ::)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2014, 12:32:35
I'm sure that Salmond will claim that by winning lots of medals England are bullying Scotland which might end up in the same result!  ::)

The Scots have never liked us.

Most of them wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire. ;)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2014, 13:12:07
Karen Gillan is  my favourite scot. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2014, 10:55:57
More medals for England. :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: cleggy on 03 August 2014, 12:34:32
Soon be over. :y :y :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 03 August 2014, 13:54:37
Remind me, Who are Scotland??  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2014, 13:57:52
Remind me, Who are Scotland??  ;D ;D

A small province directly to the north of England.

A province that is extremely costly for the english taxpayer to run. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 03 August 2014, 14:53:27
Remind me, Who are Scotland??  ;D ;D

A small province directly to the north of England.

A province that is extremely costly for the english taxpayer to run. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)







 :y :y ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 03 August 2014, 15:45:27
You lot hate us Scots on here why is this .  Seem some of you don't realise there is 1 million English living here. And you says scot hate England funny that  with the shit I'm reading its the other way round. And we pay more than our share do your research before opening your mouth in fact our economy better state than the uk as a whole.

In this time of cuts why keep us so called burden ...
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Paddy Flannery on 03 August 2014, 22:44:20
Hear, hear drinksoptional !

These are just keyboard warriors.  Big and brave in the safety of their house.
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2014, 22:58:19
Looks like we have a jock rebellion. Any chance we can bring Hadrian's wall back to it's former glory? :y ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 03 August 2014, 22:59:02
Hear, hear drinksoptional !

These are just keyboard warriors.  Big and brave in the safety of their house.





 Not at all just the usual English Scottish love hate relationship it has been like it for years but when it comes down to the grass roots we all British  :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 03 August 2014, 23:00:06
Looks like we have a jock rebellion. Any chance we can bring Hadrian's wall back to it's former glory? :y ;D






 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 August 2014, 23:19:37
Looks like we have a jock rebellion. Any chance we can bring Hadrian's wall back to it's former glory? :y ;D

The job's already gone out to tender I believe.  :y    English companies only of course!  :P  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2014, 23:34:45
Looks like we have a jock rebellion. Any chance we can bring Hadrian's wall back to it's former glory? :y ;D

The job's already gone out to tender I believe.  :y    English companies only of course! :P  ;)  ;D

That will get the scottish 'man skirt' flapping. ::) ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 04 August 2014, 01:04:56
Ah you lot must represent the common part.

Had i been slating the english  i doubt i would be getting away with on the forum  must be a one rule thing, i am sorry for the rest of you from England that have them representing you.


Anyway on the theme well done England  , i watched the cycling today that Welsh guy deserved that win thought it was over with the puncture.

As for Salmond i rather have ten of him than the  cameron  clegg  millband  or far line up you lot voted forWe not voting for alex salmond or the snp we voting to take control of our country   if you can understand that concept  he does not head the yes campain.  Compared to what England  with tution fees and prescription charges stronger economy   hell whisky alone generates 137 quid a minute .  We do pretty well forva country of 5m that again  westminster wants to hold onto  .

Why is that  oh thats right the amount of money excluding oil n gas that we generate .

Anyway i am off to drink my irn bru  hang my kilt up and take my haggis for a walk before bed

So aoch aye the noo   dunno what that mean its an English phrase but you lot like shouting it at us
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: chrisgixer on 04 August 2014, 01:16:41
Gowaaaarn the kelts. Fight FIIIIGHT.

(Makes fisticuffs motion at computer screen ;D )
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 04 August 2014, 01:31:43
Gowaaaarn the kelts. Fight FIIIIGHT.

(Makes fisticuffs motion at computer screen ;D )





 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 August 2014, 12:54:04
Ah you lot must represent the common part.

Had i been slating the english  i doubt i would be getting away with on the forum  must be a one rule thing, i am sorry for the rest of you from England that have them representing you.


Anyway on the theme well done England  , i watched the cycling today that Welsh guy deserved that win thought it was over with the puncture.

As for Salmond i rather have ten of him than the  cameron  clegg  millband  or far line up you lot voted forWe not voting for alex salmond or the snp we voting to take control of our country   if you can understand that concept  he does not head the yes campain.  Compared to what England  with tution fees and prescription charges stronger economy   hell whisky alone generates 137 quid a minute .  We do pretty well forva country of 5m that again  westminster wants to hold onto  .

Why is that  oh thats right the amount of money excluding oil n gas that we generate .

Anyway i am off to drink my irn bru  hang my kilt up and take my haggis for a walk before bed

So aoch aye the noo   dunno what that mean its an English phrase but you lot like shouting it at us

You would. ;D

Anyway, if the jocks serve any purpose it's to make us feel better about the piss poor English football team. ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: tunnie on 04 August 2014, 15:49:00
Ah you lot must represent the common part.

Had i been slating the english  i doubt i would be getting away with on the forum  must be a one rule thing, i am sorry for the rest of you from England that have them representing you.


Anyway on the theme well done England  , i watched the cycling today that Welsh guy deserved that win thought it was over with the puncture.

As for Salmond i rather have ten of him than the  cameron  clegg  millband  or far line up you lot voted forWe not voting for alex salmond or the snp we voting to take control of our country   if you can understand that concept  he does not head the yes campain.  Compared to what England  with tution fees and prescription charges stronger economy   hell whisky alone generates 137 quid a minute .  We do pretty well forva country of 5m that again  westminster wants to hold onto  .

Why is that  oh thats right the amount of money excluding oil n gas that we generate .

Anyway i am off to drink my irn bru  hang my kilt up and take my haggis for a walk before bed

So aoch aye the noo   dunno what that mean its an English phrase but you lot like shouting it at us

You would. ;D

Anyway, if the jocks serve any purpose it's to make us feel better about the piss poor English football team. ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 01:20:42
If its not scottish its shite


 ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 August 2014, 13:47:38
Haha just read this. Quality thread.

Can someone explain in laymans terms the pros and cons of Scotland leaving? Obviously there's all the talk of subsidies (free prescriptions and the like). But there must be a reason why all the parties want them to stay but, and no offence to the Scottish chap on this thread, i cant really see why.

**Bear takes cover**
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 16:22:51
Well for us  that want independence several reasons  and not Anti English as put by the better together and media  never mind the fact   they forget wales and NI  exsist. 

First we want our own gov  not one voted by the  54m in England but by the 5m  in Scotland. We do not vote tory in scotland as a majority  hence the more panda`s than tories  joke.

If we vote to stay in the EU  and  you lot vote to leave  is that fair because of the majority decided another countries fate and gov.  Our values are diffrent our country is diffrent our people are diffrent.

We want the money we make  to stay here not fund London  we get accused of been scroungers when it had been proven  time and time the Income  generated from Scotland pays our fair share and more.
Other things like the free  crap  well  education is a right not a privilge  we beleive  so you lot voted for that   not us , presciption charges again you lot voted for that not us  . From the comments i red here and other sources  England doesnt quite understand Scotland  except what they read in the paper or other media sources  which well we can see the propaganda lies  I.e  the Cant use the pound what is plan b

Plan A  currency union  plan B we use the pound  simple our economy is stronger than  well they want the scots and uk to beleive.
whisky alone £4.27bn
from the scottish gov stats

international exports from Scotland in 2012 (excluding oil and gas) is estimated at £26.0 billion, of which £15.4 billion was from the manufacturing sector and £8.7 billion from the services sector

Rest of UK Exports: The total value of exports from Scotland to the rest of UK in 2012 (excluding oil and gas) is estimated at £47.6 billion, of which £25.3 billion was from the services sector and £12.7 billion from the manufacturing sector.

oil and gas  £9.4bn

And the uk exports to Scotland  £59 billion

Now for a country that is subsidesed thats is alot of  Billions .

WHY SHOULD WE SEND THAT TO LONDON

we want a better fairer country  we want industry we want many things each person indy is diffrent  we do not want westminster and its corrupt london bais system controling us no more.

We can be allies  friends and trade partners we can share the assest and the share of the debt have a currency union.

Or we can still use the pound leave you lot the debt  and get on with our lifes. forget the allies  come the next invasion ,war what ever when you realised how much you rely on us .

I laugh  more about  folk who think Scotland will fail  again  if  we are scoungers  then why is BT and westminster doing every dirty trick to keep us together.   With all these cut backs etc  would it not be best to just get rid of this Country that is a Burden ????? 
Englnd will be a right wing country it will be either the tories or UKIP  . we do not have any ukip mps in parliment and well one tory  says it all ..   we voted snp  and to be honest i do not agree with everything but they seemed to have balanced the books created investment in Scotland improved the lifes of some folk despite the westminster led parties trying to undermine  even if it harm scotland .some have said they would vote no even if it was bad for Scotland  wtf?

Scot have been wanting indy since the union its is not new hell even David cameron has said we can do it lol.

I would question the stance of the westminster parties us leaving will make a dent in the economy and defence




Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 16:49:43
Here is the link to Yes Scotland  not Snp site if you want a better picture

http://www.yesscotland.net/answers
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 August 2014, 16:55:46
As i read it Scotland will have to join the Euro being a new country in to the EU?

Plus our debt should of course be split :)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 17:10:44
Well the stance is the We get a share fo the assest  or we dont pay  a  share of the debt .  now its down to what ever they negoate  scotland doesnt have borrowing power and the uk treasury has said it will honour the debt what is the assets about 12 trilion or summit which we have all paid into so  again see what tbe powers that be decide,  just the stance is no assets but you pay debt   from Mr Cameron Aye right mate so we are

Europe is a strange one  we already part of europe both europe and scot gov have asked the Uk gov to find out they have refused too  due to it been an indy question.  EU is a pointles areguemnt as alot of us feel we should have a referedum after. 

There is no actual   yes  no  on memership  the BT keep disroting it and throwing it out evey week along with the pound and plan b  story  agaian plan b we use the pound.

As for the Uk well its postition in the eu will be diffrent as it technically is a new country .no one has said scotland wont be accepted nor  has said we will get kicked out
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: cleggy on 05 August 2014, 17:30:27
Please vote yes and take 40 Liebour MP's out of Westminster :y :y :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 August 2014, 17:39:29
Do the Northern Isles gain independence from Scotland at the same time :-\

More to the point, do we or shoud we actually care one way or tother? ::)

Perhaps the Chinese will buy into the Caledonian dream ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 August 2014, 18:08:56
I'm not sure I understand the stance of ''we share the assets or we don't pay any debt''  :-\

What assets are we talking about? And why should Scotland leave us with all the debt?
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 August 2014, 18:14:54
The TV debate between Salmond and Darling should be broadcast across the UK and not just in Scotland as ultimately it's an issue that effects us all.  >:(
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 05 August 2014, 19:36:11
You lot hate us Scots on here why is this .  Seem some of you don't realise there is 1 million English living here. And you says scot hate England funny that  with the shit I'm reading its the other way round. And we pay more than our share do your research before opening your mouth in fact our economy better state than the uk as a whole.

In this time of cuts why keep us so called burden ...




And about 5 million scots living here, that salmond has conveniently not allowed to vote.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 19:40:58
Its on stv iplayer


The decision is for people who live in scotland not the uk to decide. Why should the rest of uk get a say?
If you dont live here even if you scottish that's tough
Why should we pay the debt  if we not getting a share  you cant tell us one minute we nothing you get nothing now you complaining we leaving .


Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 August 2014, 19:52:05
Its on stv iplayer


The decision is for people who live in scotland not the uk to decide. Why should the rest of uk get a say?
If you dont live here even if you scottish that's tough
Why should we pay the debt  if we not getting a share  you cant tell us one minute we nothing you get nothing now you complaining we leaving .

LMFAO so YOU choose to leave and don't take responsibility for your share of the debt.

If I take a mortgage out with my wife and one day decide to leave, I still owe the bank.   ;)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 19:55:51
No if we dint get fair share of the assets we paid fir then we don't pay a share of the debt what's hard to understand


http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.stv.tv%2Flive%2F&h=iAQG-y6AN&enc=AZOM9FYct9OGH8bzsWUxNeB59Q02ZYBflCSGY0EQEAObPQ3S3_EI_PXZT055jFcVND0&s=1
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 05 August 2014, 19:58:49
Its on stv iplayer


The decision is for people who live in scotland not the uk to decide. Why should the rest of uk get a say?
If you dont live here even if you scottish that's tough
Why should we pay the debt  if we not getting a share  you cant tell us one minute we nothing you get nothing now you complaining we leaving .






But there are a lot of Scottish people that live south because of work and would live back in Scotland if they could get work and they are penalized because of that.  ::)

And not complaining about Scotland leaving at all, never have, just can't see the madness of breaking up a very successful union that on the whole works very well all round. But some people are never happy unless they get it all then find out it aint all rosie and its too late. The whole thing is just a total waste of money and time, Just saying. BTW one half of my family are Scottish.  :P
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 August 2014, 20:00:21
Its on stv iplayer


The decision is for people who live in scotland not the uk to decide. Why should the rest of uk get a say?
If you dont live here even if you scottish that's tough
Why should we pay the debt  if we not getting a share  you cant tell us one minute we nothing you get nothing now you complaining we leaving .

I'm not asking for a say, but I think that the TV debate should be broadcast across the UK as it's something that effects the whole country not just Scotland.  Faslane and Trident for example.  ;)

As to the debt if Scotland walks away from it's share of the UK national debt then it'll be a great way to start a new country, in technical default!  ::)

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: cleggy on 05 August 2014, 20:15:29
If the English could vote you'd get your wish, and Corby could be moved brick by brick to be a suburb of Glasgow.  ::) ;D ;D ;D
Salmond will get what he really wants Dev/Max, because our politicians are stupid, personally I wish you BYE :y Never have to let a Liebour government ruin our country again. :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 20:21:28
Broadcast yes I agree a say no. You blame salmond for this decision on what evidence

We not in default its uk debt we have no borrowing powers
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 05 August 2014, 20:35:50
Broadcast yes I agree a say no. You blame salmond for this decision on what evidence

We not in default its uk debt we have no borrowing powers





 The fact that he started the motion and him and his sidekick all they are on about.  ::) Actually he has the makings of a modern day Hitler because that is how he started out.  :-X
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 August 2014, 20:43:48
Its on stv iplayer


The decision is for people who live in scotland not the uk to decide. Why should the rest of uk get a say?
If you dont live here even if you scottish that's tough
Why should we pay the debt  if we not getting a share  you cant tell us one minute we nothing you get nothing now you complaining we leaving .

I'm not asking for a say, but I think that the TV debate should be broadcast across the UK as it's something that effects the whole country not just Scotland.  Faslane and Trident for example.  ;)

As to the debt if Scotland walks away from it's share of the UK national debt then it'll be a great way to start a new country, in technical default!  ::)

Exactly my point, ST. This just sums up how ridiculous it would be for Scotland to walk away or to even want to.

Although when it comes down to it I think our friends from the Highlands will vote to stay  ::)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 05 August 2014, 20:46:06
Its on stv iplayer


The decision is for people who live in scotland not the uk to decide. Why should the rest of uk get a say?
If you dont live here even if you scottish that's tough
Why should we pay the debt  if we not getting a share  you cant tell us one minute we nothing you get nothing now you complaining we leaving .

I'm not asking for a say, but I think that the TV debate should be broadcast across the UK as it's something that effects the whole country not just Scotland.  Faslane and Trident for example.  ;)

As to the debt if Scotland walks away from it's share of the UK national debt then it'll be a great way to start a new country, in technical default!  ::)

Exactly my point, ST. This just sums up how ridiculous it would be for Scotland to walk away or to even want to.

Although when it comes down to it I think our friends from the Highlands will vote to stay  ::)





+1  :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 August 2014, 20:48:36
Broadcast yes I agree a say no. You blame salmond for this decision on what evidence

We not in default its uk debt we have no borrowing powers

I think that the international money markets will take a different view.  ::)  If Scotland walks away from it's share of UK debt, then what will stop them from defaulting on any new debts that are taken on?  ???  ::)

If Scotland votes 'Yes' then I think that the divorce proceedings will be messy, but Scotland will do OK as they'll get most of Britain's North Sea oil.  :y

To be honest I think that Scottish independence has been inevitable since devolution. They may not vote for it this time, but it won't go away and if that's what the Scottish people want then good luck!  :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: omega3000 on 05 August 2014, 20:54:48
If the English could vote you'd get your wish, and Corby could be moved brick by brick to be a suburb of Glasgow.  ::) ;D ;D ;D
Salmond will get what he really wants Dev/Max, because our politicians are stupid, personally I wish you BYE :y Never have to let a Liebour government ruin our country again. :y

I wish it would sometimes  ::) Majority of Scottish people are pleasant and friendly here more so the older ones but the young offspring ram scotland in your face and how its so much better than england and most have never been to scotland  >:( Im not scottish myself by the way ... aye  ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 21:24:10
End of day its our country our problem .   

You can bring it down to pathetic trolling comments to get a rise personally I don't care for those post I don't argue with folk been tits for the sake of her tits.

To be honest the debt I imagine will be part of the negations after the vote . I cant answer the debt question as I do not know the outcome of negotiations.
Most of my friends are english I have English married into my family.

I want a independant Scotland I know it will nit be easy and will prob be my sons kids grandkids that will see the benifitd. England should get over its whatever it is about Scotland . Your a different country deal with your issues stop blaming us for your problems.


Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 August 2014, 21:29:58
To be fair mate, I don't think anyone's made any bad comments.  :-\

I'm not sure Englanders do have a problem. Just curious as to what the SNPs plans are should they get their way :)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 05 August 2014, 21:39:25
Again the snp and referendum are to diffrrnt things

Hitler really explain  Westminster forcing folk to pay for nukes rather than nhs or other services. Osborne and Cameron are closer to fasicim than salmond . Stop reading torygraph and quoting you just look daft

Again I will explain in Sept we vote for staying or leaving not for snp.

In 2016 we have a general election to decided what party will be the first Scottish government of an Indy Scotland. 
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 August 2014, 21:46:49
Again the snp and referendum are to diffrrnt things

Hitler really explain  Westminster forcing folk to pay for nukes rather than nhs or other services. Osborne and Cameron are closer to fasicim than salmond . Stop reading torygraph and quoting you just look daft

Again I will explain in Sept we vote for staying or leaving not for snp.

In 2016 we have a general election to decided what party will be the first Scottish government of an Indy Scotland.

You reckon?  ???

I think Salmond and his crew plan a one party state modeled on North Korea which apparently is also a socialist paradise!  8)

It'll be fine though, as I understand they will give free deep fried mars bars to all primary school kids!  :y
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 06 August 2014, 00:27:30
Again the snp and referendum are to diffrrnt things

Hitler really explain  Westminster forcing folk to pay for nukes rather than nhs or other services. Osborne and Cameron are closer to fasicim than salmond . Stop reading torygraph and quoting you just look daft

Again I will explain in Sept we vote for staying or leaving not for snp.

In 2016 we have a general election to decided what party will be the first Scottish government of an Indy Scotland.





Not quoting just seeing things as they are  :y remember the Germans didn't see what was coming till it was to late.
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 01:53:07
End of day its our country our problem .   

You can bring it down to pathetic trolling comments to get a rise personally I don't care for those post I don't argue with folk been tits for the sake of her tits.

To be honest the debt I imagine will be part of the negations after the vote . I cant answer the debt question as I do not know the outcome of negotiations.
Most of my friends are english I have English married into my family.

I want a independant Scotland I know it will nit be easy and will prob be my sons kids grandkids that will see the benifitd. England should get over its whatever it is about Scotland . Your a different country deal with your issues stop blaming us for your problems.
Firstly, the only trolling started at Reply#18 ::)
 
Secondly, our issues would be reduced without Scotlands issues added in, the Union however will suffer, and suffer badly for it :-\

Being of Orcadian descent, Westminster is easy to ignore on the Islands. I cannot see Holyrood being any more constructive tbh, and would go as far as to say that those softy Lowlanders have no rights of interference north of the Caledonian canal :-X
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 01:56:13
Broadcast yes I agree a say no. You blame salmond for this decision on what evidence

We not in default its uk debt we have no borrowing powers

How's that working out for you? ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 06 August 2014, 14:45:28
Nah I doubt it will become a nazi state London aye Scotland no.

You lot can keep voting for the same or ukip and your life will remain unchanged with London ducking the wealth the jobs wtc.

Scotland belongs to the people of Scotland not Westminster not England. Yes will allow us to take control  no won't gives us best of both worlds it doesn't work hasn't worked and never will.

Fools who believe Lamont Davidson and Rennie are living in lah lah land and using Salmond as a reason not to vote shows stupidity.  Supporting Scotlands poor and disabled is something this scotgov has pushed hard to do , it is trying to give us all a chance to be better. Westminster is about money and power for those with money its bitter nasty and full of corrupt mps along with the lords. 
If you think education and health care is less important than nukes then you my friend ate the nazi and I hope you enjoy your nukes, benifit street England and your many folk queung up to be on Jeremy Kyle show . Foodbanks popping up  everywhere . Folk losing their homes jobs business

Land of hope and glory don't make me laugh your more divided than us . Between your imigration issue man they love Engerland fir the free benifits .

Least some of us in this Union have decided enough is enough Tie to take back the controls rather sitting back blaming folk on benifits lol for all the problems .  No borrowing powers worked out great you lot get to pay the debt its not ours its the uk treasury , you can thank us for setting up the bank of England later.

If we vote yes you think without Scotland your life really going to get better?  You still have the same parties doing the same shit . You won't have us too blame anymore  regardless if you think we scroungers or not  .  You will still have the same old uk gov with the added burden of paying for nukes plus debt plus imigrants plus benifits  plus higher tax plus higher energy  .

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 14:55:31
Anyroad, the Commonwealth Games went well, which is all that matters, given that this thread was about the Games rather than some irrelevant rubbish ::)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: tunnie on 06 August 2014, 15:00:42
Be interesting to see how they split up the national debt, Scotland is a complete unknown for borrowing, so going to get hit on the rate because of that. I don't see independence making much difference for either side to be honest.
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 06 August 2014, 15:32:59
So in summary, our Scot friend believes Westminster is corrupt and money grabbing (true)... and that a Scottish government will be any different?????? lol
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 15:34:12
Clearly a lowland softie too ;D
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Steve B on 06 August 2014, 16:03:32
Nah I doubt it will become a nazi state London aye Scotland no.

You lot can keep voting for the same or ukip and your life will remain unchanged with London ducking the wealth the jobs wtc.

Scotland belongs to the people of Scotland not Westminster not England. Yes will allow us to take control  no won't gives us best of both worlds it doesn't work hasn't worked and never will.

Fools who believe Lamont Davidson and Rennie are living in lah lah land and using Salmond as a reason not to vote shows stupidity.  Supporting Scotlands poor and disabled is something this scotgov has pushed hard to do , it is trying to give us all a chance to be better. Westminster is about money and power for those with money its bitter nasty and full of corrupt mps along with the lords. 
If you think education and health care is less important than nukes then you my friend ate the nazi and I hope you enjoy your nukes, benifit street England and your many folk queung up to be on Jeremy Kyle show . Foodbanks popping up  everywhere . Folk losing their homes jobs business

Land of hope and glory don't make me laugh your more divided than us . Between your imigration issue man they love Engerland fir the free benifits .

Least some of us in this Union have decided enough is enough Tie to take back the controls rather sitting back blaming folk on benifits lol for all the problems .  No borrowing powers worked out great you lot get to pay the debt its not ours its the uk treasury , you can thank us for setting up the bank of England later.

If we vote yes you think without Scotland your life really going to get better?  You still have the same parties doing the same shit . You won't have us too blame anymore  regardless if you think we scroungers or not  .  You will still have the same old uk gov with the added burden of paying for nukes plus debt plus imigrants plus benifits  plus higher tax plus higher energy  .
Its had its fair share from scotland too.  :P
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 16:05:01
Someone clearly has a chip on his shoulder :-\
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 August 2014, 17:05:58
Be interesting to see how they split up the national debt, Scotland is a complete unknown for borrowing, so going to get hit on the rate because of that. I don't see independence making much difference for either side to be honest.
Old habits die hard and I imagine that the Jock purse will be tightly shut. ;D ;D

I really hope that the Scots vote 'YES'. It will be interesting to see how they get on when forced to stand on their own two feet.

And why do they want the 'Westminster pound'?...... ::) ::) ::) ;)

The scots should come up with their own currency. The Thistle perhaps..... ::) ::) :P :P
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 06 August 2014, 18:37:43
Its our pound.

And without our oil, gas and other revenue sterling will be pretty much worthless your economy will flat line . The pound will be our currency with or without a currency union it's in England's best interest go check the facts i have .

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: omega3000 on 06 August 2014, 19:01:48
Fair well Scotland , dont come begging at our door when it all goes t*ts up .. you make your bed and lie in it ...  ::) I thought Camoron was bad but that Salmond geezer is a right cocky so an so and wouldnt trust him as far as i could throw Camoron .
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Webby the Bear on 06 August 2014, 19:12:13
Its our pound.

And without our oil, gas and other revenue sterling will be pretty much worthless your economy will flat line . The pound will be our currency with or without a currency union it's in England's best interest go check the facts i have .

So our economy will flat line but yours will thrive? LMAO Sorry we've been holding you back for all these years... didn't realise our subsidies were stopping you from realising your dream hahahaha
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 19:56:07
Its our pound.

And without our oil, gas and other revenue sterling will be pretty much worthless your economy will flat line . The pound will be our currency with or without a currency union it's in England's best interest go check the facts i have .
In the words of the immortal Vicky Pollard, " Yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but. Whatever."
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: tunnie on 06 August 2014, 20:03:16
Its our pound.

Think someone needs to scale back the whisky intake  ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 August 2014, 20:03:37
Its our pound.

And without our oil, gas and other revenue sterling will be pretty much worthless your economy will flat line . The pound will be our currency with or without a currency union it's in England's best interest go check the facts i have .

Not if Scotland votes YES. Not according to Cameron and Osborne anyway.



Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: kevinp58 on 06 August 2014, 22:23:43
Its our pound.

And without our oil, gas and other revenue sterling will be pretty much worthless your economy will flat line . The pound will be our currency with or without a currency union it's in England's best interest go check the facts i have .





There lies the answer it is the Pound Sterling to give it it's full name so I suggest it is you that read up.   ::) :y And if you think that your new found Independence would have different politicians then think again they are all the same what ever party and country all are in it for their own gains and Salmond and his cronies aren't any different if you believe that then you must be even more blind.
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 07 August 2014, 01:12:19
http://www.indyrefanswers.com/


Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: drinksoptional on 07 August 2014, 01:16:31
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jChTle3BxCk


go argue with him he is a proffesor not a tabliod reader ;)
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 03:10:16
Bored now.
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Rog on 07 August 2014, 08:19:02
Bored now.

Yep, me too

Been watching this and been tempted to dive in, but didn't see the point. How did a topic about sport turn into a political rant ?
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Olympia5776 on 07 August 2014, 12:46:44
Bored now.

Yep, me too

Been watching this and been tempted to dive in, but didn't see the point. How did a topic about sport turn into a political rant ?

Desperation.....
Title: Re: The Commonwealth Games
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 August 2014, 13:59:41
http://www.indyrefanswers.com/

I had a quick look through this and in the currency section there is a link to this blog.

http://weegiewarbler.blogspot.co.uk/

He lists a number of African countries that he claims use Sterling unofficially.  I've been to, worked and done business in all of those countries except for Sierra Leone, Rwanda, and the Pakistani city of Mirpur in Kashmir, and I can confirm from first hand experience that all of those countries (Except Zimbabwe) have and use their own currencies.  ::)

He is talking complete and utter bollards and in fact Botswana's Pula is one of the strongest currencies on the African continent.  ;)  :)

Zimbabwe following their economic collapse use the US Dollar and South African Rand unofficially as the Zimbabwe Dollar is worth less than toilet paper!  ::)  I expect that you could buy things with sterling but not for small amounts.  ;)