Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: chrisgixer on 18 August 2014, 14:40:29
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As title, those that have/had Vauxhall springs, could you post up how long they lasted please. Or how old they are so far.
Poll coming....
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3 votes per member as some have more than one car or had more than one set of springs.
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Had my mig nearly 5 years, done a lot of heavy towing, and never needed to be changed in my ownership.
Looking at previous history file, nothing there to indicate having ever been changed.
Just lucky i guess, although it's the far superior facelift which may account for this :P :P :P
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We talking rears only. :-\
Just replaced my rears as the pigtail snapped off. They were the original springs so that's over eleven years. :y Towed our caravan and occasionally overloaded loaded it with slabs/block paving etc. ::)
Voted. :y
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Rears seam to brake most, but I suspect mostly self levelling. But no not just rears. Fronts too on life.
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I have to say, all 3 of my cars had vx springs when they came to me. Only self levelling ones broke on my previous car, as said they are quite soft and thin at the ends. Replaced with mv6 on that one.
First omega was a 2.5 cdx no issues on a 99 plate. Sold in 07, so 8 years old springs.
Second/ previous omega 52 plate, to 07. 4.5 years on the sl springs.
Current car had LA springs and rode too high, seems fitted from new at the dealer. 03 car changed 2012 for mv6 rears and Irmscher fronts. So mv6 are 2 years old. LA 6 years old.
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Mine have done almost 10 years and 270,000 miles.
Don't understand what people do to break them as mine aren't exactly treated gently ::)
Btw currently original plod sprins with fully functional self levelling :y
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About 6 years (5 years not in my ownership) and 85k, failed MOT on them a year after I bought it.
Similar time for fatherT's 2.2 as well, as I remember replacing them too ::)
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Mine are OK. Still got 4mm on them. :y
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Mine are OK. Still got 4mm on them. :y
Sounds right for an Orlando :y
You use your feet for power right? Like the Flintstones? :)
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Mine are OK. Still got 4mm on them. :y
Sounds right for an Orlando :y
You use your feet for power right? Like the Flintstones? :)
Yep. Still get more than an omega four pot. ;D
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Mine are OK. Still got 4mm on them. :y
Sounds right for an Orlando :y
You use your feet for power right? Like the Flintstones? :)
Yep. Still get more than an omega four pot. ;D
You must be nice and thin, to get a good power to weight ratio. Unlike most of a fat bastids here ;D
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my springs are pattern. but shocks lasted 3 years before leaking :'(
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my springs are pattern. but shocks lasted 3 years before leaking :'(
Both of them? :(
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Mine are OK. Still got 4mm on them. :y
Sounds right for an Orlando :y
You use your feet for power right? Like the Flintstones? :)
Yep. Still get more than an omega four pot. ;D
You must be nice and thin, to get a good power to weight ratio. Unlike most of a fat bastids here ;D
Just noticed that I put 4mm, which has nothing to do with springs. I noticed who had started the thread and just assumed it was about tyres. ;D
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Mine are OK. Still got 4mm on them. :y
Sounds right for an Orlando :y
You use your feet for power right? Like the Flintstones? :)
Yep. Still get more than an omega four pot. ;D
You must be nice and thin, to get a good power to weight ratio. Unlike most of a fat bastids here ;D
Just noticed that I put 4mm, which has nothing to do with springs. I noticed who had started the thread and just assumed it was about tyres. ;D
No ya Fleckin didn't. You know nothing your a Daewoo owner ;D
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my springs are pattern. but shocks lasted 3 years before leaking :'(
Both of them? :(
Yes mate. Both leaking :'(
Could see leakage down the side and when i took the plastic covering tube off and it was a mess
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I've replaced front and rears on mine during my ownership and I assume that the broken ones were the originals. :)
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I voted 8 years plus. Car was two years old when we got it and ten years later it was still on all four original intact springs
It used to regular carry four . Also heavily loaded and used for towing.
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Does breaking by melting them count?
I've yet to break an Omega front one, although I had swapped them for other reasons. Tunnie has TBE's original fronts, Bullet's fronts were in the garage.
TBE came with a broken rear SL spring at 7yrs. The Bullet snapped its original rear at approx. 8yrs.
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I know I'm going to regret this ,but I have never had to replace any springs on any of the many Omega's I've had. ??? :-[ :-\
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Ok that seams fairly conclusive.
But, being fair to Tunnie for some reason I don't know why, is there any reason to believe Vauxhall spring quality has changed over the years?
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Joff? Your not alone.
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Ok that seams fairly conclusive.
But, being fair to Tunnie for some reason I don't know why, is there any reason to ebelieve Vauxhall spring quality has changed over the years?
But how many have bought springs from dealer? Not factory fit...
Across board many have reported poor life across GM hardware, if we were in 2006, yes I would buy them, along with exhausts :y
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Ok that seams fairly conclusive.
But, being fair to Tunnie for some reason I don't know why, is there any reason to ebelieve Vauxhall spring quality has changed over the years?
But how many have bought springs from dealer? Not factory fit...
Across board many have reported poor life across GM hardware, if we were in 2006, yes I would buy them, along with exhausts :y
My genuine GM replacement exhaust lasted about 130k, same as original factory one.
Rear self leveling shocks the same, front shocks changed for genuine at 155k, don't expect the replacements to be any different...
Springs all 267k original.
So don't buy the substandard post foctory genuine parts nonsense for a second... especially not for significant components... exhausts, bushes and shocks are arguably consumables anyway :-\
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I've voted 8 yrs+,although in truth I don't really know.However none of the paperwork I got with the car shows springs to have been replaced at any time,so if originals that would be 14yrs and counting.Car has a tow bar fitted but I've never used it,can't say what it used to pull in previous owners hands.
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funny you should post this as the rear springs on the Vectra needed replacing as both sides had snapped...now the car was mot'ed when I brought it a year ago (worst thing I ever did) and that was not picked up so I am guessing it has happened since I have owned it...or the last MOT was a count the wheels and let it go again??
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Have replaced a couple of springs on a Vectra C, alot less substantial than the Plod ones on the Omega.
Only found during a pad change, and not obvious on a passing inspection as snapped at the first coil and therefore obscured by the wheel during an MoT. Should add that was front springs :y
Mk3 Mundeos are prone to front spring failure, which, due to their shite design, drop and shred the tyres ::) not an issue that Omega or Vectra suffer from...
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Ok that seams fairly conclusive.
But, being fair to Tunnie for some reason I don't know why, is there any reason to ebelieve Vauxhall spring quality has changed over the years?
But how many have bought springs from dealer? Not factory fit...
Across board many have reported poor life across GM hardware, if we were in 2006, yes I would buy them, along with exhausts :y
So don't buy the substandard post foctory genuine parts nonsense for a second... especially not for significant components... exhausts, bushes and shocks are arguably consumables anyway :-\
Exhausts have clearly changed and dipped in build. As far back as 2008. No longer clamshell. No chrome tipped tail pipe, back box is a complete and utter different shape. Comapred to factory one taken off. :)
They are not the same as per factory build.
But clearly you love to put people down an agressive & personal manner, calling people idiots and saying what someone is trying to say as non sense.
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Been through this already Tunnie, stop being an idiot ;D
Bah, that's not what I typed ::) edited to correct word filter grammar :y
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Bought car in 2004 16,000 miles, presumably original springs.
Replaced by dealer in 2008, 32000 miles. Charged £320.00
I replaced them today, 53000 miles.
Incidentally dealer quoted £498.00 :o :o
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Ok that seams fairly conclusive.
But, being fair to Tunnie for some reason I don't know why, is there any reason to ebelieve Vauxhall spring quality has changed over the years?
But how many have bought springs from dealer? Not factory fit...
Across board many have reported poor life across GM hardware, if we were in 2006, yes I would buy them, along with exhausts :y
So don't buy the substandard post foctory genuine parts nonsense for a second... especially not for significant components... exhausts, bushes and shocks are arguably consumables anyway :-\
Exhausts have clearly changed and dipped in build. As far back as 2008. No longer clamshell. No chrome tipped tail pipe, back box is a complete and utter different shape. Comapred to factory one taken off. :)
They are not the same as per factory build.
But clearly you love to put people down an agressive & personal manner, calling people idiots and saying what someone is trying to say as non sense.
(Oh oppsing sigh.... )(http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/a5126f21c888e21dd7b04899176dd385728b07af_r.gif)
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Bought car in 2004 16,000 miles, presumably original springs.
Replaced by dealer in 2008, 32000 miles. Charged £320.00
I replaced them today, 53000 miles.
Incidentally dealer quoted £498.00 :o :o
That's impressive, two sets of genuine springs in six years and 21,000 miles :o
Makes you wonder if the correct ones were fitted :-\
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Or they are not as bullet proof as some think ::)
6 years sounds right to me, matches what our fleet did
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Or they are not as bullet proof as some think ::)
6 years sounds right to me, matches what our fleet did
How do you know how bullit proof they are? All you've fitted is cheap after market tat on guess work and rumour. This is how OOF legends start Tunnieincemmode. Get some first hand experience and stop taking the question as your own.
The purpose if this thread, Mr don't use pattern parts is, to discuss exactly that. Are vx springs any good. Originally, yes without a doubt, bar a few self levelling failures. But they are thin wobbly springs as we know.
Now, as I said earlier, are the replacements if the sane or similar quality? Certainly non issues with the mv6 ones I have fitted to both my cars.
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Or they are not as bullet proof as some think ::)
6 years sounds right to me, matches what our fleet did
How do you know how bullit proof they are? All you've fitted is cheap after market tat on guess work and rumour. This is how OOF legends start Tunnieincemmode. Get some first hand experience and stop taking the question as your own.
The purpose if this thread, Mr don't use pattern parts is, to discuss exactly that. Are vx springs any good. Originally, yes without a doubt, bar a few self levelling failures. But they are thin wobbly springs as we know.
Now, as I said earlier, are the replacements if the sane or similar quality? Certainly non issues with the mv6 ones I have fitted to both my cars.
Errr cause we had 2 Omegas from new...both PFL and FL. Mine came with genuine.
As for cheap tat, have words with Mr DTM as he recommend KYB when I first started DIY work. So you can get off your high horse on that one.
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KYB were OEM spec, according to DTM. One of many thread
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=10153.20 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=10153.20)
So that is my "guess work and rumour" >:(
.... And they lasted 2 years!
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http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236285434 (http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236285434)
More rumor for you :y
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I use the term quite carefully as one of your own Tunnie. ;D
Seriously, it's a bit odd banging about pattern parts as a no no one minute, then refusing to accept vx the next, and then when questioned say, oh oh well it's gaskets and sensors really.
Then it's all the fault of Dtm even though they where never an oe supplier and neither did he present them as such. Oem spec is not oe supplier.
...and apparently not being on a high horse at the time. Ah you trippin or is home life getting a bit heavy these days? ;D
Kyb are nothing to do with vx.
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http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236285434 (http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236285434)
More rumor for you :y
It's no good posting that now. AFTER the event. I'm sure I could find a few broken pattern springs threads as well. Yours mostly ;D
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Bought car in 2004 16,000 miles, presumably original springs.
Replaced by dealer in 2008, 32000 miles. Charged £320.00
I replaced them today, 53000 miles.
Incidentally dealer quoted £498.00 :o :o
That's impressive, two sets of genuine springs in six years and 21,000 miles :o
Makes you wonder if the correct ones were fitted :-\
Originals 32000 miles/6 years
Set fitted by dealer in 2008 marked LP130 lasted 21000 miles/6 years
Fitted KYB yesterday, will wait and see.
Dealer suggested instead of replacing with two genuine springs for £498.00 he could just replace the broken one with a pattern part for £156.00 ??? ???
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Have replaced a couple of springs on a Vectra C, alot less substantial than the Plod ones on the Omega.
Only found during a pad change, and not obvious on a passing inspection as snapped at the first coil and therefore obscured by the wheel during an MoT. Should add that was front springs :y
Mk3 Mundeos are prone to front spring failure, which, due to their shite design, drop and shred the tyres ::) not an issue that Omega or Vectra suffer from...
yep these were both snapped at the first coil as well
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Children children, please be nice in the playground, else you won't be allowed out to play >:(
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I should imagine that it could be down to the number of potholes that we encounter as to how long our springs last. ???