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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Webby the Bear on 28 October 2014, 12:17:57
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Afternoon chaps,
Hopefully in the midst of getting my welder :):):):)
In the mean time though I've been considering getting an angle grinder.
Think of my budget as low. And then take 80% off that ;D
I went to Homobase yesterday and saw an angle grinder for £17.99. Will this do?
Got to be honest I'm quite scared of using this. So is using tin snips for most cutting ok? And hacksawing the rest? Or will I get fed up of that? lol
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Ps, note this wouldnt get that much action.. occasional use i'd guess.
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Performance Pro / B&Q home brand ones are pretty good with a decient warenty IF you keep the reciept :-[
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Just dont do what I did years ago and use a Circular Saw to cut a hole in the roof in order to fit a Sunroof on my Company Car. :(
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I bought one from wilkinsons , had it a few years now and been a good one ... excellent when used with the thin cutting discs .. Always wear eye protection though mr bear :y
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Cheap's the way forward then! Cheers lads.
Wilko... how much are they?
And can I use any cutting disc i like?
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.... Or will I get fed up of that? lol
Probably. Bear in mind that with a grinder with a thin (1mm) cutting disc you only need access to one side of what ou're cutting, and snips tend to distort the sheet as they cut.
As above, use safety glasses/goggles when you're using it.
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I bought my Bosch one from Homebase at least ten years ago... been
abusedused mercilessly for various jobs and still going strong ;D
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my DeWalt 110volt grinder found its own wa in to my garage .......... fortunately it brought a transformer & extension lead with it. ::)
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my DeWalt 110volt grinder found its own wa in to my garage .......... fortunately it brought a transformer & extension lead with it. ::)
;D ;D
Cheap's the way forward then! Cheers lads.
Wilko... how much are they?
And can I use any cutting disc i like?
Sorry it was Argos , think it was £15 ... it was a hammer drill i bought from wilkies for ten notes , still going strong although the chucks a little wobbly now ::) ;D
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Thanks Steve... Argos it is then! :)
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little shopping list for you, these can be found all over the nett at different prices
Grinder
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12039&productdescription=S0530&productcode=&category=0&catgroup=&catmicrogroup=&analysiscode=&requiredresults=16
or
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?productdescription=S0685&pageindex=1&gotonode=DoProductSearch&method=mProductSearch&IndividualTypeID=&category=0&requiredresults=16
Cutting Discs
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?id=20&method=mViewProduct&productid=17171
If you a Wicks DIY store near you they sell 0.8mm cutting discs
Flap Disc
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?productdescription=fd11560&pageindex=1&gotonode=DoProductSearch&method=mProductSearch&IndividualTypeID=&category=0&requiredresults=16&x=18&y=11
Dont use a grinding disc to clean back use these instead and you get a better finish
Brow Guard
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=8225&productdescription=ssp11e&productcode=&category=0&catgroup=&catmicrogroup=&analysiscode=&requiredresults=16
use these instead of nomal goggles, one of the best bits of kit i've brought and you can buy spare visors
Gloves
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?productdescription=ssp141&pageindex=1&gotonode=DoProductSearch&method=mProductSearch&IndividualTypeID=&category=0&requiredresults=16&x=11&y=13
USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
Dust mask
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?productdescription=ssp15d&pageindex=1&gotonode=DoProductSearch&method=mProductSearch&IndividualTypeID=&category=0&requiredresults=16&x=12&y=5
Your lungs will thankyou in later life
And get some ear plugs
As i've already said you can find this alot everywhere
Cheers
Andy
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Thanks for that comprehensive list mate. :y
Already have ear plugs.... cos of SWMBO's snoring ;D
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
you still all ''in tact'' Steve? :o :o :o :o
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
you still all ''in tact'' Steve? :o :o :o :o
Yeah , its always tempting to put the grinder down when its turned off but spinning :-[ Mine caught tousers botton and gouged my ankle :(
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
you still all ''in tact'' Steve? :o :o :o :o
Yeah , its always tempting to put the grinder down when its turned off but spinning :-[ Mine caught tousers botton and gouged my ankle :(
Very dangerous for me as mine's tucked in my sock :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note i'll be taking all safety precautions. These things scare the living sh*te out of me :-[
How do the discs attach? cos my biggest fear is not securing them properly, i press the go button and the thing spirals off slicing my head off and ending up in Wellingborough :-[
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Big flat nut in the middle which you do up with a special spanner that will come with the grinder
Andy
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Cheers mate! :y
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Very dangerous for me as mine's tucked in my sock :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note i'll be taking all safety precautions. These things scare the living sh*te out of me :-[
How do the discs attach? cos my biggest fear is not securing them properly, i press the go button and the thing spirals off slicing my head off and ending up in Wellingborough :-[
Oh! You really don't want to do that! Mrs. KW came from there. :-X
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clamp a peice of angle in a vice or workmate, and practice cutting into it, you will soon gain confidence, dont use a cutting disc to grind with, most people keep 2 angry grinders handy to save swapping discs.
I use 3 one has a cup wire brush on.
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
you still all ''in tact'' Steve? :o :o :o :o
Yeah , its always tempting to put the grinder down when its turned off but spinning :-[ Mine caught tousers botton and gouged my ankle :(
Very dangerous for me as mine's tucked in my sock :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note i'll be taking all safety precautions. These things scare the living sh*te out of me :-[
How do the discs attach? cos my biggest fear is not securing them properly, i press the go button and the thing spirals off slicing my head off and ending up in Wellingborough :-[
I have never had one come loose - the nut tightens due to the direction of rotation. My biggest problem has always been undoing the nut again afterwards so I only do the nut up finger tight and save the peg spanner for undoing it.
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Very dangerous for me as mine's tucked in my sock :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note i'll be taking all safety precautions. These things scare the living sh*te out of me :-[
How do the discs attach? cos my biggest fear is not securing them properly, i press the go button and the thing spirals off slicing my head off and ending up in Wellingborough :-[
Oh! You really don't want to do that! Mrs. KW came from there. :-X
;D
S'where this whole playing with car lark started for me...hopefully it wont end up with any body parts being left there :-[ ;D
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
you still all ''in tact'' Steve? :o :o :o :o
Yeah , its always tempting to put the grinder down when its turned off but spinning :-[ Mine caught tousers botton and gouged my ankle :(
Very dangerous for me as mine's tucked in my sock :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note i'll be taking all safety precautions. These things scare the living sh*te out of me :-[
How do the discs attach? cos my biggest fear is not securing them properly, i press the go button and the thing spirals off slicing my head off and ending up in Wellingborough :-[
I have never had one come loose - the nut tightens due to the direction of rotation. My biggest problem has always been undoing the nut again afterwards so I only do the nut up finger tight and save the peg spanner for undoing it.
Thanks for the info mate.
Can you use a rattle gun to buzz them off should they become too tight?
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Can you use a rattle gun to buzz them off should they become too tight?
They won't be that tight! ;) :y
Better grinders have a means to lock the spindle ie push a peg in the side of the spindle. Cheaper grinders tend to come with a peg spanner for the top nut & a slim spanner to hold the nut/spindle under the disc
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USE GLOVES AT ALL TIMES, i've got deep scars from not using them and cutting discs rip flesh not cut it.
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Agreed! We all think we're bullet proof when we're young ......... and we're not! :-[
Aye , be especially careful with the twist knot wheel .. it can get caught in your trousers :-[ And it hurts :-X
you still all ''in tact'' Steve? :o :o :o :o
Yeah , its always tempting to put the grinder down when its turned off but spinning :-[ Mine caught tousers botton and gouged my ankle :(
Very dangerous for me as mine's tucked in my sock :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note i'll be taking all safety precautions. These things scare the living sh*te out of me :-[
How do the discs attach? cos my biggest fear is not securing them properly, i press the go button and the thing spirals off slicing my head off and ending up in Wellingborough :-[
I have never had one come loose - the nut tightens due to the direction of rotation. My biggest problem has always been undoing the nut again afterwards so I only do the nut up finger tight and save the peg spanner for undoing it.
Thanks for the info mate.
Can you use a rattle gun to buzz them off should they become too tight?
Not really, you need something to engage with the peg holes in the nut. The only time I have had real problems was with a 9" grinder I was using for cutting a mobile home chassis. The blade caught and stalled the grinder several times when stresses in the frame closed up the cut. I used a rubber mallet to tap the nut spanner round when I couldn't shift it any other way.
(that grinder finally gave up on me last month by shedding the teeth in the gearbox - chances are that was a result of the abuse it got trying to get the nut off)
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Pitty your not any closer as you could come over and give me a hand
Andy
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I had a cheap cutting disc from Lidl shatter on me once - never again will I scrimp on disc quality. Could have been a lot nastier than it was......
Ron.
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Steve, this the bad boy we're talking about? :)
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2378204.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:18091936165|tsid:59156|cid:189934405|lid:96719256085|nw:g|crid:53116096405|rnd:3937499017770725993|dvc:c|adp:1o1#pdpFullProductInformation
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Steve, this the bad boy we're talking about? :)
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2378204.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:18091936165|tsid:59156|cid:189934405|lid:96719256085|nw:g|crid:53116096405|rnd:3937499017770725993|dvc:c|adp:1o1#pdpFullProductInformation
Yep looks the same , dont think ive ever used the handle attachment on mine ;D
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Cheers mate. On order!!! :y
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I worked with a fella who lost control of a 9" angle grinder when it 'kicked back' when he switched it on. Apparently it zonked into him at about belt level and cut it's way all up his front and just missed his jugular vein when it cutting his neck apart! :o :o :o
He had a very impressive scar! 8) Make sure it has a 'soft start' feature especially for the bigger 9" bad boys! ;)
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Cheap grinders tend to be larger, noisier and rougher than a 'good' one. I've several from £10 to a £50 Dewalt which is what I'd recommend. But if you're not going to use it much, then a cheapy will do fine.
Do get the thin cutting discs; they cut better and last longer. A grinding disc will last for ages. A backing pad and some 80grit soft discs are well worth having. Don't buy any of this stuff from B&Q etc, as they're blindingly expensive. Trade suppliers or Ebay are best. Ensure that you're buying the right size; 5" discs are no good for a 4.5" grinder unless you're moronic enough to remove the guard!
PPE is necessary, gloves and goggles at all times. Grinders leave a razor sharp burr on sheet metal, which will cut fingers straight down to the bone as I have the scars to prove. Run the grinder along the edge to remove the burr every time you make a cut.
With some practice, a grinder can make decent precise cuts, but your repair panels are still best finished off with snips.
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Nick, thanks for all that info. Don't worry il be wearing a fek king suit of armour as I'm so scared of them.
I'll play about with it with the disc off to see what sort of kick it gives :y
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Nick, thanks for all that info. Don't worry il be wearing a fek king suit of armour as I'm so scared of them.
I'll play about with it with the disc off to see what sort of kick it gives :y
It won't with no weight on it ::)
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Nick, thanks for all that info. Don't worry il be wearing a fek king suit of armour as I'm so scared of them.
I'll play about with it with the disc off to see what sort of kick it gives :y
As Al says it won't without a disc and anyway I think any new angle grinder will have the soft start. :y
I have a £30 Lidl 9" grinder and that does. :y It's just something to be aware of if you ever borrow one or buy a second hand one! ;)
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Nick, thanks for all that info. Don't worry il be wearing a fek king suit of armour as I'm so scared of them.
I'll play about with it with the disc off to see what sort of kick it gives :y
There you go Webby -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dark-Authentic-Knight-Suit-Of-Armour-sword-and-stand-185CM-/351134083987?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item51c138eb93 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dark-Authentic-Knight-Suit-Of-Armour-sword-and-stand-185CM-/351134083987?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item51c138eb93)
;) ;)
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Hahahaha! cheers mate!
Yes it does have soft start according to the advert.
Presumably thats where it starts off slow and then builds up to full speed.
it arrives tomorrow :)
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Hahahaha! cheers mate!
Yes it does have soft start according to the advert.
Presumably thats where it starts off slow and then builds up to full speed.
it arrives tomorrow :)
Careful first time , be aware of snagging :o The correct angle especially grinding so the sparks run away from you and not in your face :(
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Will be extremely careful mate!!!! thanks for the advice.
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its been nice knowing you?.........
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:o :'( :'( :'( :'(
;D :y
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Will be extremely careful mate!!!! thanks for the advice.
We were cutting out a rotten section of a land rover chassis years ago and the guard kept getting in the way so my mate removed it. The disc grabbed, shattered and took a chunk out of his wrist. He needed micro surgery to fix the tendons/nerves or whatever it was. Luckily it wasn't his face.
When I was an apprentice toolmaker, we had to endure endless safety videos, but the one I remember most is the grinding wheel safety video. We were shown the importance of safety specs when a wheel lets go and the guy doing the safety course asked if there were any questions, to which my mate asked "what happens if the shrapnel misses your glasses". Clearly this amused us but the seriousness of it is, it would destroy your face. :o
Having seen a bench grinder let go years ago, and the bits stick in a wall, I've become paranoid about the ring test and wearing full face protection when using my 9"er. ;) ;D ;D
We all become far too complacent with power tools, just be aware that they don't take prisoners.
Link below is not too graphic but gets the point across. Some are horrific. :o
http://youtu.be/eJOiKuVeXA0
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Guard notwithstanding, had he been using the grinder the other way around, ie 180° so the blade was rotating the other way ie cutting down and not up, then the shrapnel wouldn't have hit his face ::)
The guard would also stop him slicing his fingers off...
Good points, well presented though :y
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Thanks guys, will defo look at some vids when im home.
the AG itself looks like you should be cutting at a horizontal angle of the disc. so when turning it round (or vertical) you obviously want the disc rotating away from you right?
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Will be extremely careful mate!!!! thanks for the advice.
We were cutting out a rotten section of a land rover chassis years ago and the guard kept getting in the way so my mate removed it. The disc grabbed, shattered and took a chunk out of his wrist. He needed micro surgery to fix the tendons/nerves or whatever it was. Luckily it wasn't his face.
When I was an apprentice toolmaker, we had to endure endless safety videos, but the one I remember most is the grinding wheel safety video. We were shown the importance of safety specs when a wheel lets go and the guy doing the safety course asked if there were any questions, to which my mate asked "what happens if the shrapnel misses your glasses". Clearly this amused us but the seriousness of it is, it would destroy your face. :o
Having seen a bench grinder let go years ago, and the bits stick in a wall, I've become paranoid about the ring test and wearing full face protection when using my 9"er. ;) ;D ;D
We all become far too complacent with power tools, just be aware that they don't take prisoners.
Link below is not too graphic but gets the point across. Some are horrific. :o
http://youtu.be/eJOiKuVeXA0
Just watched this. Pretty scared now :'(
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Right chaps can I just clarify some points please....
I bought this to cut metal. Firstly should I always use horizontal cuts so that if something does let go the safety guard will protect me? And when you talk about grinding.... is thiswhat I would call ''sanding''? as I mainly want it to cut
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Right chaps can I just clarify some points please....
I bought this to cut metal. Firstly should I always use horizontal cuts so that if something does let go the safety guard will protect me? And when you talk about grinding.... is thiswhat I would call ''sanding''? as I mainly want it to cut
Think of it as a 6 inch circular saw that has the abilty to rough sand :y
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Just watched this. Pretty scared now :'(
Had totally forgot about discs shattering :-X
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My Makita has been brilliant, had a LOT of rough punishment.
My choice of 1mm cutting discs are these, lesser brands don't last two minutes and are much more prone to shattering:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115mm-4-5-ULTRA-THIN-METAL-CUTTING-DISC-4-1-2-STEEL-STAINLESS-Bluespot-1mm-/290688825257?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&var=&hash=item43ae6777a9
For grinding welds....don't....use a 40 or 60 grit flap disc, much better job and work out a similar price as they last a lot longer.
As for guard position, you ideally want the sparks running away from you but, you will find yourself occasionally in the position where you have to bend the rules a bit.
I use a pair of welding gauntlets when grinding as they protect your arms from sparks and being leather add some protection to.
Don't forget you need full goggles as safety specs wont cut it.
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My Makita has been brilliant, had a LOT of rough punishment.
My choice of 1mm cutting discs are these, lesser brands don't last two minutes and are much more prone to shattering:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115mm-4-5-ULTRA-THIN-METAL-CUTTING-DISC-4-1-2-STEEL-STAINLESS-Bluespot-1mm-/290688825257?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&var=&hash=item43ae6777a9
For grinding welds....don't....use a 40 or 60 grit flap disc, much better job and work out a similar price as they last a lot longer.
As for guard position, you ideally want the sparks running away from you but, you will find yourself occasionally in the position where you have to bend the rules a bit.
I use a pair of welding gauntlets when grinding as they protect your arms from sparks and being leather add some protection to.
Don't forget you need full goggles as safety specs wont cut it.
Yeah , it dont burn much mr bear :D .. you will get use to it once you start to practice .. Try cutting open an old silencer :)
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Thanks guys,
And sorry for all the posts (usual from me I know ::)) but having only used one once or twice I really am not going to go about this until I feel 110% confident. Some may think I'm a pussy... perhaps... but I'd rather be safe than sorry :y
So. The grinder has just arrived and I have 7 GRINDING discs only. I can now see why theyre grinding discs as the flat sides have notches all over. So these are for presumably flattening out bumps and stuff and shouldn't be used to cut, correct? For that I need the thin cutting discs that mark and others have posted links to.
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....aaaaaand.....
When I tightenmy outer flange nut ::) it says hand tighten? Shouldn't I tighten it FT with the special spanner?
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Unplug grinder. Put larger washer on with two luugs facing up,place new disc of choice on,locate disc,put top nut on,do up finger tight,then use special spanner to do nut up TIGHT..
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Unplug grinder. Put larger washer on with two luugs facing up,place new disc of choice on,locate disc,put top nut on,do up finger tight,then use special spanner to do nut up TIGHT..
Exactly what I thought. Thanks BG :y
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If you tighten the nut to FT, you won't be able to undo it with the pin spanner. you might break the pins or round off the holes. Window fitters are good at this!
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Thanks Nick. A good tight twist seems to set it nicely.
Ordered those cutting discs you recommend mark so thank you for that.
Is this guy ok for face / eye protection with safety glasses underneath...
http://www.thesafetysupplycompany.co.uk/p/4570448/Bolle-Face-Shield-Complete---EN---Simple-to-Adjust-and-Flip-up---BO-BLPI.html?gclid=CjwKEAjww8eiBRCE7qvK9Z7W_DgSJABfOjf2gsPKAcNo4YUk4726Cmi4JJUm3PmQH5wH8qhrsiRP1BoC2jXw_wcB#.VFJVZY1ybIU
And finally.....
The thing I'm going to practise on is the wife's pug 206 door that's fekked and that ivealready replaced (obviously with glass, wiring, motors etc removed.
As I obviousy cant clamp it im thinking big heavy objects like this don't need to be secured and I can do it with it on the floor???
finally..... grinding discs. can I also cut with these? I know not to grind with cutting wheels though :y
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pps, as I don't have enough space to keep a permanent vice... will these be good?
http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p7051/Irwin_Visegrip_11R_Locking_C_Clamp_275mm_11in_Regular_Tip/product_info.html?utm_source=googleversafeed&vfsku=7051&gpla=pla&gclid=CjwKEAjww8eiBRCE7qvK9Z7W_DgSJABfOjf2qK6LF0RokttsjI_kqIB5TpCU98pi9PPbtv0F1COY4hoCAr_w_wcB
seen them recommended a lot :)
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On the nut question, I would nip the nut up as with a new disc you need the nut to grip so the disc does not spin. Finger tight and they can spin!
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Ok, just had my first go. Turned it on and moved in obvious methodical steps with my leathers on, big leather gloves and safety goggles that coverd most of my face (found them in dads tool kit).
used it on some mild steel that I c clamped down to the work bench.
quite scary at first. turned it on with no load and made sure everything was good.
couple of minutes just getting used to it and I got a little bit of confidence.
new chapter in bear world :) :) :) :) :) :)
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You will soon be playing with the big boy toys webby. ;D
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You will soon be playing with the big boy toys webby. ;D
Thought this was one mate? :-\ ;D ;D
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Nope thats a baby 1,you really need to have a look in my garage at what i have hiding in there ;D
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Nope thats a baby 1,you reasly need to have a look in my garage at what i have hiding in there ;D
:o :o :o :o :o :o
;D ;D ;D
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one thing ive noticed...
for just the 2 minutes I actually used it for the disc looks like its wearing already. That usual? ???
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Yup :y
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Well if your using a grinding disc for cutting then yes it will wear quick
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Well if your using a grinding disc for cutting then yes it will wear quick
No, I used it as intended...not to cut :y
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ok, another question (sorry lol)
it says in my manual that the safety guard is only suitable for grinding. wonder why? is there a universal 115mm cutting safety guard you can buy one trusts?
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Ok, just had my first go. Turned it on and moved in obvious methodical steps with my leathers on, big leather gloves and safety goggles that coverd most of my face (found them in dads tool kit).
used it on some mild steel that I c clamped down to the work bench.
quite scary at first. turned it on with no load and made sure everything was good.
couple of minutes just getting used to it and I got a little bit of confidence.
new chapter in bear world :) :) :) :) :) :)
:o
Be aware of loose clothing including safety clothing getting caught in the grinder :(
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ok, another question (sorry lol)
it says in my manual that the safety guard is only suitable for grinding. wonder why? is there a universal 115mm cutting safety guard you can buy one trusts?
Ive always used same guard for cutting and grinding :y
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Just a general warning.. Watch where you place your legs when using the cutting discs, a mate was using one and the disk snaged then jumped straight thru his jeans thru his thigh and stopped on his thigh bone. Lets just say he has never been near a grinder since
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Nope thats a baby 1,you really need to have a look in my garage at what i have hiding in there ;D
You got a petrol disc cutter, or a 9" inch'er.
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Got 9 incher(bet stemo is getting excited)
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Got 9 incher(bet stemo is getting excited)
He's on his way as we speak(Kleenex) ;D :D
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He will have a wasted journey then lol ;D
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He will have a wasted journey then lol ;D
Gaywoo wouldn't make it this far south on tut M1.
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Gaywoo wouldnt be able to follow the mighty truck off road either ;D
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On a serious note lads...
Just visited the safety store. Got full face mask and big Irwin clamps.
When my cutting discs arrive and I actually start cutting.... this snagging thing causing kick back.... is there a technique to prevent this?
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Don't twist it and don't force it :y
Be aware that as you remove strength from the panel, the slice may close up behind the disc, causing it to stick...
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Please don't take this the wrong way and i know everyone has been offering help and advise but by now it sounds like your getting a bit of a wobble which is understanable have looked at all the things that can go wrong.
I'd suggest that for your first time get someone with you who has a knowledge of using a grinder and can give you a few pointers. like i said if you were a bit closer you'd be more than welcome to pop over to the workshop for a few hours
Andy
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Thanks Andy,
Yeah it is pretty scary.
I think I'm happy having a go to be honest. Just not going to rush and take it slow and wear all my PPE.
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Thanks Andy,
Yeah it is pretty scary.
I think I'm happy having a go to be honest. Just not going to rush and take it slow and wear all my PPE.
Make sure you do, I used to have a reserved seat at the local eye hospital :o sparks eventually go rusty and really hurt
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I would advise to use the attaching handle till you get use to the grinder , less chance of it twisting :y A lot of jobs on cars are tight access so the handle has to come off :y
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I would advise to use the attaching handle till you get use to the grinder , less chance of it twisting :y A lot of jobs on cars are tight access so the handle has to come off :y
It might be suggested that if you have to remove the handle then you're using the wrong tool :-X
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Thanks lads.
A million percent using the handle. it feels a lot safer :y
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I would advise to use the attaching handle till you get use to the grinder , less chance of it twisting :y A lot of jobs on cars are tight access so the handle has to come off :y
It might be suggested that if you have to remove the handle then you're using the wrong tool :-X
Probably but is only power tool i got for emergency removals :D ;D
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Better not look at mind, no handle and guard still in the wrapper ::)
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Better not look at mind, no handle and guard still in the wrapper ::)
A true professional, :y once young bear gets use to it,be like his dancing partner. 8)
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Cheers for all your input lads :y
So.
100x100mm mild steel, 3mm thick, Project ''EGR Blank''.
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/Anglegrinding035_zps71c6c018.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/Anglegrinding035_zps71c6c018.jpg.html)
I really enjoyed using it to cut. Was SOOO careful with every move I made. The disc grabbed a couple of times so I see why you have to hold it really firmly with the handle...not sure I'd ever take that off :-\
Just got to grind to finish the shape.
Thanks to everyone for links.... those cutting discs Mark recommended were ordered yesterday at 15.00.....arrived today at 1 :o :o :o :o :y
New ''metal fabrication tool box'' in the garage ;D
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/Anglegrinding034_zps14fde34e.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/Anglegrinding034_zps14fde34e.jpg.html)
Some off cuts...
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/Anglegrinding036_zpsc1e03330.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/Anglegrinding036_zpsc1e03330.jpg.html)
And was in b n q today for more g clamps, vice grip c clamps etc and picked up some on offer tools as most of my T & E sockets have either broke or a gone a missing ::) wonder if they'll be any good :-\
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/Anglegrinding037_zps27b1d0b6.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/Anglegrinding037_zps27b1d0b6.jpg.html)
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Ive got some of them torks sockets and they work very well. No issues, also bought the tork spanners, :y :y
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:y :y :y
So now I've used the tool and got semi-used to it I'll be chopping up the old pug door next in prep for. . . . Welding it back together ::) ;D
Anything in particular to be concerned about? Obviously glass and crap out of the door first ::) I presume I can just lay it on the ground and go for it
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Ps, re the sparks (knew there was something I forgot ::)).....
I adjusted the guard so that it was in front of me but I could see the disc. I played about with the guard position to see if it would alter the spark direction . . . It did but it always was coming towards me. So I stepped to the side and allows the sparks to 'pass' me.
Is there any way to get the sparks going in front and away from me?
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Nope, they follow you everywhere ;D
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With the protective gear on it wont hurt you unless your wearing shorts :-[
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With the protective gear on it wont hurt you unless your wearing shorts :-[
Shorts? Lol no way. Jeans, chaps and cricket box!!!! ;D
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Make sure there is nothing flammable or combustable in the area the sparks could reach... ...unless you want a garage like mine ;D
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Not bumping lads but how long do these cutting discs last / when do I put a new one on? Did about half hour with one disc. . . Can I re-use it safely?
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Not bumping lads but how long do these cutting discs last / when do I put a new one on? Did about half hour with one disc. . . Can I re-use it safely?
You can use it till its not big enough to cut any more although in practice it'll be sooner than that as you won't be able to see around the guard ;)
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Thanks Henry :y
Roughly speaking how many hours / minutes at a guess would you say a cutting disc would last? :-\
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Worst case, (working the grinder to it's limit & cutting something solid) 10-15 minutes
If you make a habit of burning through discs then you probably want to buy a bigger grinder.
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Thanks Andy :y
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The trick to cutting disc life is to let the disc do the cutting, don't apply excess pressure.
Those discs I linked are very good, cut well and last well.......try some crappy Silverline or similar cheapo brand ones if you want to see how short lived they can be ;D :D :y
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The trick to cutting disc life is to let the disc do the cutting, don't apply excess pressure.
Those discs I linked are very good, cut well and last well.......try some crappy Silverline or similar cheapo brand ones if you want to see how short lived they can be ;D :D :y
They were really good so thanks for that link. and they arrived next day on free delivery!! unbelievable.
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So, come home this morning (got day off), have a coffee, look at the birds feeding etc etc
look down near the garage door and my mum or dad has been in the garage, moved my angle grinding bucket outside and not put it back. rain soaked through :'( :'( :'( :'(
luckily, I wrapped the grinder up in its plastic cover and put it back in its box and the cardboard has soaked up all the water. also luckily I put my cutting discs back in the bag they came from so theyre ok.
my grinding discs however are not so lucky. theyre soaked through as I didn't put them in a bag. I trust these are now fekked?
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They will be fine, there made of a hard resin with abrasive grit in it formed around a fibre mesh, pretty water proof!
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cheers mark :y
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just used grinder. all good :)
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My plasma cutter arrived earlier. I can see my metal cutting discs lasting a long, long time ;D
Just need to find some metal to cut now. Most things I've suggested, she's said I'm not allowed to. Bloody spoilsport :(
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I'd have thought you'd have inflicted a few wounds on that dishwasher by now. Not enough to kill it, just enough to make it hurt. ;)
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Whats the benefit of plasma over thecutting disc? presumably for those odd angles you might not be able to get to?
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You can cut any shape - curves, straight lines (depending how steady your hand is!) and there's no consumable disc, as you say the wand is smaller so you can get it into tight gaps.
Downsides are the ease of setting light to the surrounding environment with one.. ;D
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You can cut any shape - curves, straight lines (depending how steady your hand is!) and there's no consumable disc, as you say the wand is smaller so you can get it into tight gaps.
Downsides are the ease of setting light to the surrounding environment with one.. ;D
I hope Tb isn't trying it out in his new garage ::) :-X
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You can cut any shape - curves, straight lines (depending how steady your hand is!) and there's no consumable disc, as you say the wand is smaller so you can get it into tight gaps.
Downsides are the ease of setting light to the surrounding environment with one.. ;D
I hope Tb isn't trying it out in his new garage ::) :-X
Nah, he's probably got an old gas cylinder lying around in the garden he can try it out on..
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You can cut any shape - curves, straight lines (depending how steady your hand is!) and there's no consumable disc, as you say the wand is smaller so you can get it into tight gaps.
Downsides are the ease of setting light to the surrounding environment with one.. ;D
I hope Tb isn't trying it out in his new garage ::) :-X
Nah, he's probably got an old gas cylinder lying around in the garden he can try it out on..
:o :o :-X
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You can cut any shape - curves, straight lines (depending how steady your hand is!) and there's no consumable disc, as you say the wand is smaller so you can get it into tight gaps.
Downsides are the ease of setting light to the surrounding environment with one.. ;D
I hope Tb isn't trying it out in his new garage ::) :-X
Nah, he's probably got an old gas cylinder lying around in the garden he can try it out on..
You can make a nice Chiminea / Food Smoker out of one of those actually*.
* - Remove gas first.
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Ah but how do you get the gas out .. without waiting for it to rust through, anyway ;D
Not sure mine would convert well though - tis fibreglass ;D
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Nah, he's probably got an old gas cylinder lying around in the garden he can try it out on..
You can make a nice Chiminea / Food Smoker out of one of those actually*.
They make fantastic crow-scarers when placed on a bonfire (in the middle of a field). :-X
First time I've felt a ploughed field move underfoot. :o Oh, and it blows a big hole in the middle of your bonfire. ;D
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I'd have thought you'd have inflicted a few wounds on that dishwasher by now. Not enough to kill it, just enough to make it hurt. ;)
T'was mentioned. She said no. And meant it. I know that sort of "no"
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I'd have thought you'd have inflicted a few wounds on that dishwasher by now. Not enough to kill it, just enough to make it hurt. ;)
T'was mentioned. She said no. And meant it. I know that sort of "no"
Not even a "you'll have to do it when I'm out selling buttons " No? :-\
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I'd have thought you'd have inflicted a few wounds on that dishwasher by now. Not enough to kill it, just enough to make it hurt. ;)
T'was mentioned. She said no. And meant it. I know that sort of "no"
Not even a "you'll have to do it when I'm out selling buttons " No? :-\
Hmmm, she's out tomorrow ::)
Mind you, it was a proper "no". I'm kinda attached to my gonads ;D
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I'd have thought you'd have inflicted a few wounds on that dishwasher by now. Not enough to kill it, just enough to make it hurt. ;)
T'was mentioned. She said no. And meant it. I know that sort of "no"
Not even a "you'll have to do it when I'm out selling buttons " No? :-\
Hmmm, she's out tomorrow ::)
Mind you, it was a proper "no". I'm kinda attached to my gonads ;D
http://www.hark.com/clips/wldwhfcgzz-whats-that-clanging-sound ;D
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So TB has a plasma cutter ... now when he gets a welder as well ... do I sense a lambda moving party on the horizon ??? ::) ::) ::) ::)
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So TB has a plasma cutter ... now when he gets a welder as well ... do I sense a lambda moving party on the horizon ??? ::) ::) ::) ::)
Given that I had a VAT free voucher, it seemed rude not to go mental in Machine Mart yesterday (and avoid the £42 delivery charge)... ;)
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You get the Clarke welder, Jaime? S'what I'm getting on pay day :):):)
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You get the Clarke welder, Jaime? S'what I'm getting on pay day :):):)
135TE, which is what I had before :y
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Forgot to show you my collection yesterday,remind me when your next over webby :y
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Will do Martin.
Went out on the toon last night and got a lift in with mate and his dad. He was telling me how he used a 9-incher (::)) to cut some metal in a yard somewhere and all of a sudden a rat shot out from underneath somewhere with sparks coming out of his arse ;D
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£27.50 plus VAT for 5m of 2x2 2.5mm walled square tubing cut up in to 1m sections from local metal company :):):):)
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£27.50 plus VAT for 5m of 2x2 2.5mm walled square tubing cut up in to 1m sections from local metal company :):):):)
Oooo, tell me more Webby, I can't find anyone around these parts. Looking for 15-20mm boxed, 1mm wall
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£27.50 plus VAT for 5m of 2x2 2.5mm walled square tubing cut up in to 1m sections from local metal company :):):):)
Oooo, tell me more Webby, I can't find anyone around these parts. Looking for 15-20mm boxed, 1mm wall
http://www.jematthewsltd.co.uk/
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If you contact them and put your order in I'll pick it up/drop off for you ol' boy. They're in Southbridge (or Far Cotton to me ::)) :y