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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lagondanet on 07 January 2015, 12:14:56
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Terrible news from Paris with at least 11 gunned down in their office. >:(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30710777
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Terrible news from Paris with at least 11 gunned down in their office. >:(
Awful news, and apparently simply because they ran an article/tweeted taking the piss out of the IS "leader".... the so called "peaceful religion" once again showing how it has been hijacked by extremism ...
Sad day all round .... :(
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That is terrible
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I'm fine, by the way you tinkers! >:( ;D ;D
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And if MI5 / MI6 slip up, it will be coming to a street like yours >:(
Next time someone tells you that surveillance of all communication traffic is not needed, think of this day ;) :(
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I'm fine, by the way you tinkers! >:( ;D ;D
Was that a black Leaf they were driving ;D ;D ;D
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I'm fine, by the way you tinkers! >:( ;D ;D
Was that a black Leaf they were driving ;D ;D ;D
Must have planned that one months ago to get it as far as Paris. :P
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I'm fine, by the way you tinkers! >:( ;D ;D
Was that a black Leaf they were driving ;D ;D ;D
Must have planned that one months ago to get it as far as Paris. :P
Pml :y ;D ;D
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I'm fine, by the way you tinkers! >:( ;D ;D
Was that a black Leaf they were driving ;D ;D ;D
Looks like a new C3 to me
I find it hard to believe they made it away... seeing as there were police on scene
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I'm fine, by the way you tinkers! >:( ;D ;D
Was that a black Leaf they were driving ;D ;D ;D
Looks like a new C3 to me
I find it hard to believe they made it away... seeing as there were police on scene
2 of whom got shot dead, one at point blank range while lying injured. >:(
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Executed for poking fun at a myth. :o :o :o :o
Unbelievable!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Unfortunately, this is what happens when we tolerate intolerant people.
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Let me get back at them! Myself and my small team in Nigeria in 2001 seeking the fledgling Boko Haram. (Eh! I am the one in the middle!)
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/drooscott/Untitled_zps2da194b6.jpg) (http://s439.photobucket.com/user/drooscott/media/Untitled_zps2da194b6.jpg.html)
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The skinny bloke third from left? :D
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Let me get back at them! Myself and my small team in Nigeria in 2001 seeking the fledgling Boko Haram. (Eh! I am the one in the middle!)
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/drooscott/Untitled_zps2da194b6.jpg) (http://s439.photobucket.com/user/drooscott/media/Untitled_zps2da194b6.jpg.html)
You get them?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30710777
[/quote]Executed for poking fun at a myth. :o :o :o :o
Next they'll be raping kids to prove they aren't paedophiles
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RIP Charlie Hebdo.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6xLwSjIgAMOAgY.jpg)
Many newspapers are pixelating the front covers for fear of retribution, so the best way to honour his bravery and our freedom of speech is by showing them in full.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6xJ-JcCMAEt7BD.jpg)
PS: I'm sure the OOF servers are safe where they survived last years serious incident test unharmed! ::) ::) :o :o :o
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Not us! What happened was they fired 16 mortars at us and wounded some locals. Luckily nobody was killed. Another group tracked them down and killed them. Five in all. I still have shrapnel from the mortars sitting on my tv in Spain.
I sent messages pre 911 from Africa to the UK press warning them that there was an imminent attack to either the UK or the US. Nobody listened.
Everybody MUST be aware of their surroundings in this country from now on.
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Well said Rods2. RIP Charlie Hebdo.
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Le Pen response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbS_6GR7U4
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30710777
Executed for poking fun at a myth. :o :o :o :o
Next they'll be raping kids to prove they aren't paedophiles
Or having under age sex and saying they didn't know its bad because the faith school they went to in Birmingham taught them that women are scum and worthless.
http://www.nottinghampost.com/Anger-lenient-sentence-given-Facebook-sex-man/story-18002817-detail/story.html
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30710777
Executed for poking fun at a myth. :o :o :o :o
Next they'll be raping kids to prove they aren't paedophiles
Or having under age sex and saying they didn't know its bad because the faith school they went to in Birmingham taught them that women are scum and worthless.
http://www.nottinghampost.com/Anger-lenient-sentence-given-Facebook-sex-man/story-18002817-detail/story.html
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Not sure this is such a good example/comparison or even on topic. There are plenty of examples of underage sex by non-muslims too.
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Its the fact that he has been brain washed into the mind set that women are worthless by a school we pay for, clearly these schools need sorting out so such pathetic excuses can be removed.
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http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/32542/Aanslag-Charlie-Hebdo/article/detail/2174935/2015/01/08/Burgemeester-Rotterdam-Als-het-je-hier-niet-bevalt-rot-dan-op.dhtml
Basically.... He is the major of Rotterdam. Himself of Moroccan descent, a Muslim, and mayor of a city with a large immigrant population. He strongly rejects the attacks on Charlie Hebdo. He says on national TV that jihadists who reject the values of the society in which they live, should "piss off" and leave the country. It is good to see such leadership. We need more of that now and less political correctness.
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Its the fact that he has been brain washed into the mind set that women are worthless by a school we pay for, clearly these schools need sorting out so such pathetic excuses can be removed.
I agree with what you say about the faith schools but the article you quoted did not say that, did it?
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There was a 'sit -in' at one of our local mosques over Christmas so they could avoid Christmas itself >:( WTF do they expect in a predominately Christian country? ???
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There was a 'sit -in' at one of our local mosques over Christmas so they could avoid Christmas itself >:( WTF do they expect in a predominately Christian country? ???
Agreed :y
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There was a 'sit -in' at one of our local mosques over Christmas so they could avoid Christmas itself >:( WTF do they expect in a predominately Christian country? ???
Must have been pretty ripe in there - they must have started in October to avoid all the Crimbo crap in the shops! ;)
As for the shootings - terrible, just terrible.
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Its the fact that he has been brain washed into the mind set that women are worthless by a school we pay for, clearly these schools need sorting out so such pathetic excuses can be removed.
I agree with what you say about the faith schools but the article you quoted did not say that, did it?
More info in the Fail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
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Its the fact that he has been brain washed into the mind set that women are worthless by a school we pay for, clearly these schools need sorting out so such pathetic excuses can be removed.
I agree with what you say about the faith schools but the article you quoted did not say that, did it?
More info in the Fail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
and having read that I agree wholeheartedly with you that such schools and such teaching should be dealt with. >:(
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My wife is the head teacher of a church of england school where about 80% of the pupils are muslim (yes, I know :o). They all celebrated christmas, parents (mostly) included. And when it is eid, they'll all do that too.
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My wife is the head teacher of a church of england school where about 80% of the pupils are muslim (yes, I know :o). They all celebrated christmas, parents (mostly) included. And when it is eid, they'll all do that too.
Excellent. & Diwali, Chinese New Year etc. no doubt. :y
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I'm delighted to know that the law has changed such that ignorance of the law is
no an excuse. >:( >:( >:(
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Looking like one of the bastards that got away has shot and killed a Paris woman police officer this morning >:(
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Listening to an interview on Radio 4 this morning. Some (ordinary) muslims condemn the violence but in the same breath say the cartoonists should not have made or be allowed to make fun of Islam. This ambivalence is problematic.
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Listening to an interview on Radio 4 this morning. Some (ordinary) muslims condemn the violence but in the same breath say the cartoonists should not have made or be allowed to make fun of Islam. This ambivalence is problematic.
I listened to that, and agree. Read David Aaronovitch in yesterday's Times. It sums the situation up very well. :y
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Listening to an interview on Radio 4 this morning. Some (ordinary) muslims condemn the violence but in the same breath say the cartoonists should not have made or be allowed to make fun of Islam. This ambivalence is problematic.
I listened to that, and agree. Read David Aaronovitch in yesterday's Times. It sums the situation up very well. :y
If Dave Allen, Jim Davison and their ilk are tolerated, then why not satirical cartoons :-\
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Listening to an interview on Radio 4 this morning. Some (ordinary) muslims condemn the violence but in the same breath say the cartoonists should not have made or be allowed to make fun of Islam. This ambivalence is problematic.
I listened to that, and agree. Read David Aaronovitch in yesterday's Times. It sums the situation up very well. :y
If Dave Allen, Jim Davison and their ilk are tolerated, then why not satirical cartoons :-\
Or satirical posts about cyclists?
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We are tolerant, they are not. That is the danger. >:(
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We are tolerant, they are not. That is the danger. >:(
What is the solution? Clearly crusades/shooting people/ousting regimes and trying to force democracy don't work...
If the Christian church were stronger/more forward thinking then perhaps Islam wouldn't be the fastest growing religion amongst western populations.
Perhaps all religion could be outlawed? Or perhaps all faiths combined to form a global, all encompassing church :-\
People can be of faith regardless of their situation, does religion have to have labels :-\
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It's just down the road from here now, kosher supermarket with hostages and several dead.
Strangly enought though, after a few tours in Afghan/Iraq I don't feel that anxious about it tbh :-\
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Or satirical posts about cyclists?
We are tolerant, they are not. That is the danger. >:(
Yes it's only a matter of time before cyclists take up arms! :o :D ;D
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You certainly chose an 'interesting' week to be in Paris rather than Lyon :-\
I'm sure the Israelis won't stand for it for long...
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We are tolerant, they are not. That is the danger. >:(
What is the solution?
The problem is the human condition.. so there is no solution; not until we accidentally erase ourselves as a species, anyway (it's only a matter of time, surely!)
Apparently the events in Paris have already been reason enough for tougher security checks at some airports (certainly in Spain as someone returning from there found, yesterday) and calls in some countries for de-facto monitoring of all communications and the introduction of a "Patriot Act" style thing..
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We are tolerant, they are not. That is the danger. >:(
What is the solution?
The problem is the human condition.. so there is no solution; not until we accidentally erase ourselves as a species, anyway (it's only a matter of time, surely!)
Apparently the events in Paris have already been reason enough for tougher security checks at some airports (certainly in Spain as someone returning from there found, yesterday) and calls in some countries for de-facto monitoring of all communications and the introduction of a "Patriot Act" style thing..
The Patriot Act is a dangerous path to follow...
"In order to protect your freedom, we must first remove it..." :(
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You certainly chose an 'interesting' week to be in Paris rather than Lyon :-\
Been in both this week. Lyon was hit too but with repraisal attacks >:(
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You certainly chose an 'interesting' week to be in Paris rather than Lyon :-\
Been in both this week. Lyon was hit too but with repraisal attacks >:(
A sad truth... everything is an emotional knee jerk reaction to something else :-\
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You certainly chose an 'interesting' week to be in Paris rather than Lyon :-\
Been in both this week. Lyon was hit too but with repraisal attacks >:(
A sad truth... everything is an emotional knee jerk reaction to something else :-\
which plays right in to the hands of those who wish to separate our communities.
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We are tolerant, they are not. That is the danger. >:(
What is the solution? Clearly crusades/shooting people/ousting regimes and trying to force democracy don't work...
If the Christian church were stronger/more forward thinking then perhaps Islam wouldn't be the fastest growing religion amongst western populations.
Perhaps all religion could be outlawed? Or perhaps all faiths combined to form a global, all encompassing church :-\
People can be of faith regardless of their situation, does religion have to have labels :-\
Regret I dont think there is a solution. :(
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You certainly chose an 'interesting' week to be in Paris rather than Lyon :-\
Been in both this week. Lyon was hit too but with repraisal attacks >:(
A sad truth... everything is an emotional knee jerk reaction to something else :-\
which plays right in to the hands of those who wish to separate our communities.
Yes, and more 'calls for de-facto monitoring of all communications and the introduction of a "Patriot Act" style thing'
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If the Christian church were stronger/more forward thinking then perhaps Islam wouldn't be the fastest growing religion amongst western populations.
You have that half right about the Christian church: it is already forward thinking, but weak. I know that is a risky generalisation, but I have another - Islam's moral certainty and inability to compromise is its strength and a large part of its appeal.
There isn't a reliable, effective answer to this, let alone a palatable one. The American approach of Patriot Act and Homeland Security is more for political effect than actual use.
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If you look through history, many Christians were far more barbaric than todays Islamic extremists especially toward Pagans.
So, as a Christian society....we're tolerant?
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Developments in France right now.
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If you look through history, many Christians were far more barbaric than todays Islamic extremists especially toward Pagans.
So, as a Christian society....we're tolerant?
That was then, this is now :(
No point the world getting into a pissing competition over who's religion was the biggest idiot hundreds or even thousands of years ago.
Imo, its called evolution and attitudes have changed as we evolve.
Running around with a AK47 wasting anybody who you think may disagree with you or sending a young child complete with explosive vest into a group of people stood minding there own business and blowing them all to atoms is not justified in any religion regardless of what went on years ago.
To that, you can add grooming non Muslim minors for sex or female genital mutilation to the pot.
These oppsers do not give a toss about anything other then there twisted beliefs.
Its there way or die, its as simple as that >:( >:(
And you can't say its just "the west" that's the enemy in there eyes, what the opps did the island of Bali do to them ??
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A good result for the authorities in France.
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All over now. At least another Four families will have an empty place at the table from now on :'(
Everbody loses in this kind of situation, as there is no negotiating with someone who thinks they will be magically transported to 'Paradise' the second they have been 'Martyred' >:( :'(
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Still one at large :(
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Still one at large :(
Yup :(
Reported as a female accomplice
Lets hope they catch the bitch alive :-X
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You don't keep vermin alive.
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You don't keep vermin alive.
You do until you get them to tell you what they know :)
I'm sure the French Foreign Legion will have a place in the desert somewhere where they can chat for a while ;) :-X :-X
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Result! :y As posted earlier, PLEASE everyone, be very very aware of your surroundings and who is around. Because we are next.
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Being 'aware' isn't going to help much if the other person pulls out an AK47 - unless you also happen to be bulletproof..
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Being 'aware' isn't going to help much if the other person pulls out an AK47 - unless you also happen to be bulletproof..
;D ;D ;D ;D
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You don't keep vermin alive.
You do until you get them to tell you what they know :)
We already know what they know; they hate us and are prepared to die to do something about it. They might be hatefilled, vicious, violent, religious extremists, but the people that run this sort of thing aren't stupid or incompetent. They have an endless supply of 'soldiers', and the things they do aren't like putting a man on the moon. So the chances of the foot soldiers knowing anything that could trace further up the chain are non-existent. You don't stop this sort of thing with enormous government bureaucracies filtered through the military and further buggered up by politicians. That sort of thing leads to even worse consequences than we are looking at here.
The only realistic, effective thing to do is to prove to these maniacs that they are wrong whenever they pop their heads up.
And no, I don't like what that implies either
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Being 'aware' isn't going to help much if the other person pulls out an AK47 - unless you also happen to be bulletproof..
Aaron! Look at my photo, you do not "PULL OUT" an AK-47 due to it's size. (I don't have one but the other guys do.) I am just informing ignorant well informed people what can happen in this time of very serious threats to us all. End Of.
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You don't keep vermin alive.
You do until you get them to tell you what they know :)
We already know what they know; they hate us and are prepared to die to do something about it. They might be hatefilled, vicious, violent, religious extremists, but the people that run this sort of thing aren't stupid or incompetent. They have an endless supply of 'soldiers', and the things they do aren't like putting a man on the moon. So the chances of the foot soldiers knowing anything that could trace further up the chain are non-existent. You don't stop this sort of thing with enormous government bureaucracies filtered through the military and further buggered up by politicians. That sort of thing leads to even worse consequences than we are looking at here.
The only realistic, effective thing to do is to prove to these maniacs that they are wrong whenever they pop their heads up.
And no, I don't like what that implies either
You can't fight intolerance with tolerance.
There is nothing to negotiate with them.
There ethos is either live there way or die so unless you want to kiss the arse of radical islam, we start just slotting the bastards every time they raise there vile heads. No fuss or fanfare, no inquest after every round is fired, no tears of regret either >:(
And 'dangle berries' to the human rights act and opps the Geneva convention too ...............
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You can't fight intolerance with tolerance.
Then everyone has to be intolerant. And as Nick W says, I think that's an equally dangerous line to go down.
Any form of religious extremism is going to be dangerous. Most historical commentators agree that religion is a way to control the masses, and is about power (of those at the top). By faith's nature, the foot soldiers will do as their leaders say, knowing the next life promises more, whether that be a line of virgins, "Heaven", whatever.
We must not forget that the vast, vast majority of people gifted with a faith are decent, law abiding, caring people.
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Result! :y As posted earlier, PLEASE everyone, be very very aware of your surroundings and who is around. Because we are next.
I don't think those sentiments would have helped Lee Rigby, he didn't know anything was amiss until they turned him in to a bonnet mascot before chopping his head off.
Then everyone has to be intolerant. And as Nick W says, I think that's an equally dangerous line to go down.
Any form of religious extremism is going to be dangerous. Most historical commentators agree that religion is a way to control the masses, and is about power (of those at the top). By faith's nature, the foot soldiers will do as their leaders say, knowing the next life promises more, whether that be a line of virgins, "Heaven", whatever.
We must not forget that the vast, vast majority of people gifted with a faith are decent, law abiding, caring people.
Has anyone bothered to tell the extremist loons that the virgins are all boys?
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Result! :y As posted earlier, PLEASE everyone, be very very aware of your surroundings and who is around. Because we are next.
I don't think those sentiments would have helped Lee Rigby, he didn't know anything was amiss until they turned him in to a bonnet mascot before chopping his head off.
Then everyone has to be intolerant. And as Nick W says, I think that's an equally dangerous line to go down.
Any form of religious extremism is going to be dangerous. Most historical commentators agree that religion is a way to control the masses, and is about power (of those at the top). By faith's nature, the foot soldiers will do as their leaders say, knowing the next life promises more, whether that be a line of virgins, "Heaven", whatever.
We must not forget that the vast, vast majority of people gifted with a faith are decent, law abiding, caring people.
Has anyone bothered to tell the extremist loons that the virgins are all boys?
That's what they're hoping for.
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That's what they're hoping for.
I always thought they were generally "straight", it's the Catholic church and MP's that like to bat for the same team.
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That's what they're hoping for.
I always thought they were generally "straight", it's the Catholic church and MP's that like to bat for the same team.
Arabs? Straight? Yeah, because their religion says they should be. They don't like a drink either.....
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Then again, you could be right about this particular flavour of arab.....