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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: dbr on 15 January 2015, 20:41:23
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Looks like they both might need replacing . Any recommendations regarding make / suppliers.
Thanks again.
Dave
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Pattern ones are crap and not worth the money
Stick a advert in the parts section on here for a pair of genuine ones :y
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Any used ones you buy are likely to nearing the end of their life. I'd buy new.
Secondhand exhaust parts need to be very cheap, preferably free, to be worth considering.
I fitted a new N/S cat almost a year ago after the original broke up on the first day of a fortnights holiday abroad. I wish I had replace the O/S one when I changed the rest of the system a few months later.
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Any used ones you buy are likely to nearing the end of their life. I'd buy new.
Secondhand exhaust parts need to be very cheap, preferably free, to be worth considering.
I fitted a new N/S cat almost a year ago after the original broke up on the first day of a fortnights holiday abroad. I wish I had replace the O/S one when I changed the rest of the system a few months later.
As the car is now 18, I was thinking both also. One is badly corroded where the front / middle join and there is a slight leak. As the exhaust was replaced as a whole I would assume the other bits will be on their way and it will be much easier to do the lot in one go. This next year will be the most expensive for a long time.
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Never found a pattern cat that was fit for purpose Nick.
A cat from Vauxhall would cost more then the car is worth anyway. Its a 1997 model (18 years old)
The original 2/5 3ltr cats are double skinned and unless they have been battered about (which is easy to see) imho, that's the way to go
A half decent full exhaust system will put you back less then 100 notes delivered
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Never found a pattern cat that was fit for purpose Nick.
A cat from Vauxhall would cost more then the car is worth anyway. Its a 1997 model (18 years old)
The original 2/5 3ltr cats are double skinned and unless they have been battered about (which is easy to see) imho, that's the way to go
A half decent full exhaust system will put you back less then 100 notes delivered
I paid about £300 for its first replacement 12 / 13 yrs ago. So things are much cheaper now. 2nd hand cats. What is a decent price?
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Working backwards, I bought a new complete cat back system, delivered as far as Parcel Farce for £92. There is no way I would buy a secondhand exhaust when that is possible.
As for the cat, it was about £70. It fitted perfectly, is quiet and does the job. I don't expect it to last another 160k miles/14 years, but that applies to the rest of the car too. The frequent insistence on Vx or used-up secondhand parts when decent alternatives are available is a regular source of amusement to me.
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I fitted one of the below to a friends 2.2 back in the summer - fitted well, pass emission with flying colours, it's quiet :y
The pattern one I took of to fit it however only had 1 cat and failed after a year!
http://www.cats2u.co.uk/32298/Catalytic-Converter/VAUXHALL/OMEGA/2.2
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Working backwards, I bought a new complete cat back system, delivered as far as Parcel Farce for £92. There is no way I would buy a secondhand exhaust when that is possible.
As for the cat, it was about £70. It fitted perfectly, is quiet and does the job. I don't expect it to last another 160k miles/14 years, but that applies to the rest of the car too. The frequent insistence on Vx or used-up secondhand parts when decent alternatives are available is a regular source of amusement to me.
Nick, the 100 notes WAS for a new system :)
As for patterned verses a good oem second hand cat ............ all in my opinion (and just about everybody else on here) but hey, as the saying goes, you pay your money ................ :)
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Where from?
D
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Something like this for the Exhaust:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-2-5-1994-2000-Silencer-Exhaust-System/150875259003?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D0173f9abadcd4765ae0b9cdb002480a6%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251165535785&rt=nc
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Depending who you know etc... I was about to replace the cats on my V6, but an analysis found that the flange was the real fault, the actual 'catalytic bit' was fine - a common fault, and looks like the same as yourself. I ended up getting a new flange welded on both. (from another scrap exhaust - the one that came off the car, in fact, as I was replacing the mid and end sections)
1 Beer money/matesrates for a couple of new flanges to be put on
2 Used - ideally collect them yourself, you know how delicate they are, they don't like being chucked around. I know it's not the cat section, but I got the two middle and end sections for £20, fitted now, easily got 3-5 years in it, I'd say.
3 Brand new Vx - pick an organ you wish to donate.
4 Brand new pattern - feels good now, but if it dies after 2 years, then you start to grumble and wish you'd done option 1, 2, or 3.
Just search on heebay for 'scrap catalytic converter' in sold items and you'll see that prices are roughly in the £30-60 region. Now whether you get a decent-looking used pair, or brand new at whatever price, you'd be hopefully recouping about £60+ flogging off your old ones, and the same again when this new exhaust goes pop (be that in 1 year, or 18!) There's lots of 'ifs' and 'maybes' I know. It's sort of one of them things only you can decide, really.
You're always going to get the mix of opinions from "I'd never buy a used exhaust - eww! Think I live in a council house, or something?!" ... to ... "I'd never buy a brand new Vx exhaust! Think I'm made of money?!" and everywhere in between. Hope whatever you choose is economical and right for you and your Current Account doesn't dip into the red over it :y
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Where from?
D
See Steve's link below mate :y
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Hello
Also lookin for a mid section exhaust for my car a 2.6 estate. Tried the link in this section but they seem not to stock exhausts for the 2.6. Would also like a good quality new one but not at Vauxhall prices. Any suggestions please.
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I've used these guys for a 2.2 and all ok - are 2.5 & 2.6 not very similar anyway?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Opel-Vauxhall-Omega-B-2-5-2-6-V6-Saloon-Silencer-Exhaust-System-350-/251165535785?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a7aa1ee29
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Hello
Also lookin for a mid section exhaust for my car a 2.6 estate. Tried the link in this section but they seem not to stock exhausts for the 2.6. Would also like a good quality new one but not at Vauxhall prices. Any suggestions please.
I have used Andrew Page in the past, but have not priced them recently
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Buy a complete system from ETS, £92.00 delivered, they don't list a 2.6 or a 3.2, just a 3.0/2.5 same system. :)
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Buy a complete system from ETS, £92.00 delivered, they don't list a 2.6 or a 3.2, just a 3.0/2.5 same system. :)
Don't forget that saloon and estate systems are different as well :y
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I've used these guys for a 2.2 and all ok - are 2.5 & 2.6 not very similar anyway?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Opel-Vauxhall-Omega-B-2-5-2-6-V6-Saloon-Silencer-Exhaust-System-350-/251165535785?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a7aa1ee29
That's where I got my 2.5 exhaust from...was really pleased with it. Car is really quiet. It came from Poland and took only four days to get here. Well packed and all fittings provided. :y The 2.6 may be getting a set in the near future too :y
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terbert was this the clam shell type of silencer or the plain type. If I want a system for my 2.6 which one do I orderfron ETS ?
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Go to ets on ebay and order the system for a 2.5,also remember saloon and estate are different.
the difference between a 2.5and a 3.0l is 3.0 has twin outlets, 2.5 is single.
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Thanks for the clarification :y
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Am I right in thinking that the 2.5 system would need an extension tail on the back pipe to take it past the bumper?
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Will try and take a measurement this evening, of my FLs backbox, vs my PFLs backbox :y
You're right, in that the extra length is just the length of that last section of tube - it isn't like they've changed the location of the hangers, or made a new boot floor skin pressing just for the FL saloon over the PFL. I'm not massively sure what odds it makes if it is too short - as you say a couple of quid on a chrome tailpipe or whatever can sort that for looks.
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Fitting a prefacelift exhaust to a facelift saloon will allow the exhaust gasses to collect behind the bumper, and could also lead to heat damage to the bumper if you drive it hard :-\
Alot of cars appear to have the exhaust exiting behind the bumper, but if you look closely you'll find the tail pipe points down...
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Am I right in thinking that the 2.5 system would need an extension tail on the back pipe to take it past the bumper?
Not if you order the facelift one :y
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I didnt think ETS did a special system for the facelift.2.6
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Am I right in thinking that the 2.5 system would need an extension tail on the back pipe to take it past the bumper?
Not if you order the facelift one :y
Or the 2.6 one I linked :y
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Fitting a prefacelift exhaust to a facelift saloon will allow the exhaust gasses to collect behind the bumper, and could also lead to heat damage to the bumper if you drive it hard :-\
Alot of cars appear to have the exhaust exiting behind the bumper, but if you look closely you'll find the tail pipe points down...
I have a 3.0L system fitted to my 3.2, purchased from ets and my bumper hasn't melted,or deformed. ::)
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Fitting a prefacelift exhaust to a facelift saloon will allow the exhaust gasses to collect behind the bumper, and could also lead to heat damage to the bumper if you drive it hard :-\
Alot of cars appear to have the exhaust exiting behind the bumper, but if you look closely you'll find the tail pipe points down...
I have a 3.0L system fitted to my 3.2, purchased from ets and my bumper hasn't melted,or deformed. ::)
i have an ETS system on the 3.2 estate and it's fine.
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3.2 one should be facelift anyway, and 2.5/3.0 should give you a choice of pre and post facelift :y
Have seen evidence of heat damage to the rear bumper from poorly fitted replacement exhausts, which is why I mentioned it :y
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I removed mine... permenently! Took a while to get the sound sorted as christ it had a bark without them but now with the inclusion of a couple of bullets sounds good and dont have any more issues with them blocking up (ps im in NZ before you moan, we dont need them!) we also get $100 (about 50Pound) for them as scrap