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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 January 2015, 11:24:11
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..........air conditioning and climate control?
Is there any difference?
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Air condition merely dries and cools the air as it enters the cabin.
Climate control is how the cabin air is managed wrt temp/fan speed with a view to maintaining an even cabin temp :y
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Air condition merely dries and cools the air as it enters the cabin.
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not if you have the heater set to hot ;)
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Air condition merely dries and cools the air as it enters the cabin.
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not if you have the heater set to hot ;)
The very act of drying the air cools it regardless of heater setting... simple physics ::)
The climate control then warms the air as required by passing it over the heater matrix, (which may or may not have hot coolant passing through it) according to how the controls are set.
They are two entirely different processes :y
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Air-con is manual, climate is auto.
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Air condition merely dries and cools the air as it enters the cabin.
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not if you have the heater set to hot ;)
The very act of drying the air cools it regardless of heater setting... simple physics ::)
The climate control then warms the air as required by passing it over the heater matrix, (which may or may not have hot coolant passing through it) according to how the controls are set.
They are two entirely different processes :y
Yes I know. But my Smart has a/c .......... ie NOT climate control, but I can still have warm air entering the cabin with the a/c on
Climate control, as you say, regulates the temp of the cabin all by itself ......... a/c doesn't ;)
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Air-con is manual, climate is auto.
exactly :y
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Air condition merely dries and cools the air as it enters the cabin.
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not if you have the heater set to hot ;)
The very act of drying the air cools it regardless of heater setting... simple physics ::)
The climate control then warms the air as required by passing it over the heater matrix, (which may or may not have hot coolant passing through it depending on whether your HBV is shagged or the matrix itself is leaking all over the carpet.
They are two entirely different processes :y
:y
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Arse ::) ;D
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Air-con is manual, climate is auto.
No, no and, er... no.
Climate control, be that mechanically or electronically controlled works independently of air con. Because they are two very different things.
Set your panel to Auto and Eco with the temp to say 21°. That's your Electronic Climate Control in action with no air conditioning.
All air conditioning does is dry and cool the air. It isn't manual or automatic, it's either on or off depending on whether you, the operator, has turned it on or off...
Simples :y
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Air-con is manual, climate is auto.
No, no and, er... no.
Climate control, be that mechanically or electronically controlled works independently of air con. Because they are two very different things.
Set your panel to Auto and Eco with the temp to say 21°. That's your Electronic Climate Control in action with no air conditioning.
All air conditioning does is dry and cool the air. It isn't manual or automatic, it's either on or off depending on whether you, the operator, has turned it on or off...
Simples :y
in terms of the original question ...... in a car ..... a/c is manual & c/c is automatic
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They're still two different things doing two different jobs ???
Manual climate control will have a fan switch, a temperature control and a direction control.
Electronic climate control adds in an automatic function, which enables the controls to self adjust according to the chosen temperature setting and allows for external temperature as a reference point.
Posh electronic climate control can also be zoned, ie dual/tri/quad... allowing the temperature to be regulated precisely around the interior.
IF it is switched on, the air conditioning will help regulate lower climate temp settings in higher external temperatures and dry the air.
They complement each other but are different and separate processes within the heating/ventilation system.
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A/C works, sometimes, but is good for demisting. C/C is shite and doesn't do much at all except annoy the hell out of you. There should be one, rotary switch with blue at seven o'clock and red at five o'clock. Hot air, warm air, cool air, cold air..lovely. ;D
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A/C works, sometimes, but is good for demisting. C/C is shite and doesn't do much at all except annoy the hell out of you. There should be one, rotary switch with blue at seven o'clock and red at five o'clock. Hot air, warm air, cool air, cold air..lovely. ;D
Indeed :y
I leave the aircon on all year round, temp set to the temperature I want, and the airflow set to where I want it, and at the fan speed I want :y
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They're still two different things doing two different jobs ???
Manual climate control will have a fan switch, a temperature control and a direction control.
Electronic climate control adds in an automatic function, which enables the controls to self adjust according to the chosen temperature setting and allows for external temperature as a reference point.
Posh electronic climate control can also be zoned, ie dual/tri/quad... allowing the temperature to be regulated precisely around the interior.
IF it is switched on, the air conditioning will help regulate lower climate temp settings in higher external temperatures and dry the air.
They complement each other but are different and separate processes within the heating/ventilation system.
Like I said. :y
Manual and auto.
And have you ever seen a car with Climate control without air-con?
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No I haven't because climate control is rubbish at dealing with moisture. You can however have/use climate control without air conditioning but it will be crap.
There is no manual or auto air conditioning... manual or auto refers to the setting of the climate control system, not the air conditioning. The ECO button turns the aircon on and off. Perhaps this would be less confusing if the eco button was in the glove box ::)
Cabin ventilation is a series of processes:
1.Air passes through pollen filter.
2.Fan adjusts speed of air.
3.Air passes over aircon evaporator. If air con is switched on, this dries and cools the air. If the aircon is switched off, the air still passes over the evaporator but is unaffected by it.
4.This air then passes over the heater matrix. Whether it is heated or not depends on how the temperature controls are set.
5.The air then moves to the vents. Again which ones depends on the setting of the control panel.
Air conditioning #3 and #3 alone.
Climate control is #1, #2, #4, and #5 and is connected to airconditioning by air flow and a conveniently located switch, nothing more.
Dr Opti, to answer your question, I refer you to my first post :y
Not going to explain it again as it's getting boring. :-X
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All I use is AUTO and 22c.
The car Top Gear made for pensioners had it right. The only switch was labelled 'just right'... ;D
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;D
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...... manual or auto refers to the setting of the climate control system ....
You're splitting hairs. We know what air conditioning itself is .... as you say air conditioned air or not air conditioned air ...... but as per the question of what's the difference between the two, in practical terms a car with a/c has controls that you alter your self for direction & heat. Climate does it all for you.
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I usually have mine set at 22 auto eco and driving around this afternoon, I thought of this thread so turned the AC on. ::)
The car promptly fogged up! :o :D
New pollen filter time I think. ::)
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Be about right... ::) might be worth checking that the aircon is actually working too...
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They're still two different things doing two different jobs ???
Manual climate control will have a fan switch, a temperature control and a direction control.
Electronic climate control adds in an automatic function, which enables the controls to self adjust according to the chosen temperature setting and allows for external temperature as a reference point.
Posh electronic climate control can also be zoned, ie dual/tri/quad... allowing the temperature to be regulated precisely around the interior.
IF it is switched on, the air conditioning will help regulate lower climate temp settings in higher external temperatures and dry the air.
They complement each other but are different and separate processes within the heating/ventilation system.
Like I said. :y
Manual and auto.
And have you ever seen a car with Climate control without air-con?
Yes. My MV6 ;D
All cars pretty much have AC now, and as climate was traditionally only fitted to higher spec cars....