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Title: The snow does strange things
Post by: Mr Gav on 21 January 2015, 08:20:33
It has to be said that the snow changes some peoples driving habits even when there`s none on the road, like the Land Rover Discovery driver this morning on the M621.
I`m coming up the slip road to join the M621, driving at 50 so I can filter in and there`s a nice gap so I indicate and start to pull over only to be met be the Disco driver who thinks `oh no you`re not` and accelerates hard to within 2ft of the car in front to stop me getting on the motorway   :-\
Then when I brake to pull in behind him he sticks the anchors on to try and get me to run into the back of him :o

I don`t know what he was trying to achieve, and as I was heading ten miles down the road to Wakefield I got into lane two, pulled along side him and told him what I thought of him ;)
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Gaffers on 21 January 2015, 08:39:07
SOPs for a Disco driver innit?
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 January 2015, 09:40:19
SOPs for a Disco driver innit?

Yeah, he's just bitter because you've got a boot floor and he hasn't. ;)
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: The Sheriff on 21 January 2015, 09:56:20
I drovefrom Barnsley to Wakefield this morning. I was either tailgated by idiots or held up by idiots. They either want to do 80 or 15, nothing in tne middle  ;D
Still snowing here and I have to do the same journey later to pick my son up.
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Gaffers on 21 January 2015, 10:03:59
SOPs for a Disco driver innit?

Yeah, he's just bitter because you've got a boot floor and he hasn't. ;)

There's nowt like cold feet to make someone a grumpy sh!t ;D
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Vamps on 21 January 2015, 21:38:37
I drovefrom Barnsley to Wakefield this morning. I was either tailgated by idiots or held up by idiots. They either want to do 80 or 15, nothing in tne middle  ;D
Still snowing here and I have to do the same journey later to pick my son up.

That's quite a trip Steve, twice a day too; I assume school related..........  :) :)
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 January 2015, 06:30:08
I drovefrom Barnsley to Wakefield this morning. I was either tailgated by idiots or held up by idiots. They either want to do 80 or 15, nothing in tne middle  ;D
Still snowing here and I have to do the same journey later to pick my son up.

That's quite a trip Steve, twice a day too; I assume school related..........  :) :)
Yep. Luckily I dont drive an omega so I'm likely to get there.
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 January 2015, 11:08:46
I drovefrom Barnsley to Wakefield this morning. I was either tailgated by idiots or held up by idiots. They either want to do 80 or 15, nothing in tne middle  ;D
Still snowing here and I have to do the same journey later to pick my son up.

That's quite a trip Steve, twice a day too; I assume school related..........  :) :)
Yep. Luckily I dont drive an omega so I'm likely to get there.
And back it would seem... ::)
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 22 January 2015, 18:59:14
They either want to do 80 or 15

Once these 'Smart motorways' have been completed no one will be doing more than 70mph!!! The new speed cameras will see to that. They are now as well as enforcing the red ring 60 or 50 mph speed limits when its busy, enforcing the 70mph speed limit. So beware, the new gantrys hide a new money making scheme even when they aren't in use, they're 'in use'!!!!
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 January 2015, 19:11:48
They either want to do 80 or 15

Once these 'Smart motorways' have been completed no one will be doing more than 70mph!!! The new speed cameras will see to that. They are now as well as enforcing the red ring 60 or 50 mph speed limits when its busy, enforcing the 70mph speed limit. So beware, the new gantrys hide a new money making scheme even when they aren't in use, they're 'in use'!!!!
Just this minute been on the telly.
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: RobG on 22 January 2015, 19:14:49
They either want to do 80 or 15

Once these 'Smart motorways' have been completed no one will be doing more than 70mph!!! The new speed cameras will see to that. They are now as well as enforcing the red ring 60 or 50 mph speed limits when its busy, enforcing the 70mph speed limit. So beware, the new gantrys hide a new money making scheme even when they aren't in use, they're 'in use'!!!!
I suggest that all the relevant constabularies get their act together and standardise the present varying parameters that dictate as to whether the motorist receives a fine for speeding or not.
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: firemoth on 22 January 2015, 19:31:58
I think its mad they're putting these daft cameras in. I don't speed (wrecklessly) doing 80mph on a motorway in the middle of the night when you pass maybe 2 vehicles every half hour, what's the harm? Most motorways in Europe have much higher speed limits. Admittedly, we have one of the best safety record, but most of our urban roads have higher limits than them. Germany is one of the safest too, but 70% of their motorways are unrestricted. And they take full advantage. I was there last summer, and sitting at 100mph, is only overtaking wagons which are limited. Most cars were overtaking me and by alot. So safety and speed isn't a direct correlation......
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 January 2015, 19:34:47
I think its mad they're putting these daft cameras in. I don't speed (wrecklessly) doing 80mph on a motorway in the middle of the night when you pass maybe 2 vehicles every half hour, what's the harm? Most motorways in Europe have much higher speed limits. Admittedly, we have one of the best safety record, but most of our urban roads have higher limits than them. Germany is one of the safest too, but 70% of their motorways are unrestricted. And they take full advantage. I was there last summer, and sitting at 100mph, is only overtaking wagons which are limited. Most cars were overtaking me and by alot. So safety and speed isn't a direct correlation......
You're missing the point. Nothing to do with safety, everything to do with revenue raising.
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 January 2015, 19:35:45
Smart motorways are all well and good until someone falls asleep in the control room.  ::)

A few months ago I was driving around the western M25 and all the gantry signs were showing 40, but it was 8pm, not a great deal of traffic and no accidents or hold ups.  :-\ 

I assumed that they had been left like that from the rush hour.....   ::)  >:(  Maybe I should be more cynical as to why they were left at 40....  :-\  ::)
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 January 2015, 19:38:13
Smart motorways are all well and good until someone falls asleep in the control room.  ::)

A few months ago I was driving around the western M25 and all the gantry signs were showing 40, but it was 8pm, not a great deal of traffic and no accidents or hold ups.  :-\ 

I assumed that they had been left like that from the rush hour.....   ::)  >:(
Or...the motorway is only smart if the operator is smart. So it depends on where you are in the country. In the West Country, yokels will have it set at 10mph for their haywains. ;D
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Entwood on 22 January 2015, 19:54:11
I think its mad they're putting these daft cameras in. I don't speed (wrecklessly) doing 80mph on a motorway in the middle of the night when you pass maybe 2 vehicles every half hour, what's the harm? Most motorways in Europe have much higher speed limits. Admittedly, we have one of the best safety record, but most of our urban roads have higher limits than them. Germany is one of the safest too, but 70% of their motorways are unrestricted. And they take full advantage. I was there last summer, and sitting at 100mph, is only overtaking wagons which are limited. Most cars were overtaking me and by alot. So safety and speed isn't a direct correlation......

The national speed limit is 70 mph .. all day, everyday .. if you exceed it you break the law .. it really is that simple. You ultimately have a choice ... obey the law or break it .. if you choose the  latter and get caught .. don't complain as you knew the possible consequences BEFORE you made the decision.

The law of unintended consequences would have great fun if it was decided that a "few" laws - like speeding - could be ignored ... take that point to its most extreme ...at what point would we then be "ignoring" rape and murder ?? or where do you say "its ok ..." ?? mugging ?? robbery ?? drunk driving ?? hit-and-run ??

Laws are either obeyed or broken .. there are no other options.
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: aaronjb on 22 January 2015, 20:32:49
A few months ago I was driving around the western M25 and all the gantry signs were showing 40, but it was 8pm, not a great deal of traffic and no accidents or hold ups.  :-\ 

That seems to happen all the time on the M25.. I'm sure the powers would be would say that there is some hazard we can't see (invisible road ghosts, as my ex would say) but the cynic in me says it's probably just a cash generating exercise!
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Vamps on 22 January 2015, 20:53:06
I drovefrom Barnsley to Wakefield this morning. I was either tailgated by idiots or held up by idiots. They either want to do 80 or 15, nothing in tne middle  ;D
Still snowing here and I have to do the same journey later to pick my son up.

That's quite a trip Steve, twice a day too; I assume school related..........  :) :)
Yep. Luckily I dont drive an omega so I'm likely to get there.

 ;) :D :D
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 22 January 2015, 22:09:01
until someone falls asleep in the control room

Not controlled from any control room, they are done by traffic sensors measuring volumes of cars automatically
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Andy B on 22 January 2015, 22:28:43
I think its mad they're putting these daft cameras in. I don't speed (wrecklessly) doing 80mph on a motorway in the middle of the night when you pass maybe 2 vehicles every half hour, what's the harm? Most motorways in Europe have much higher speed limits. Admittedly, we have one of the best safety record, but most of our urban roads have higher limits than them. Germany is one of the safest too, but 70% of their motorways are unrestricted. And they take full advantage. I was there last summer, and sitting at 100mph, is only overtaking wagons which are limited. Most cars were overtaking me and by alot. So safety and speed isn't a direct correlation......

The national speed limit is 70 mph .. all day, everyday .. if you exceed it you break the law .. it really is that simple. You ultimately have a choice ... obey the law or break it .. if you choose the  latter and get caught .. don't complain as you knew the possible consequences BEFORE you made the decision.

The law of unintended consequences would have great fun if it was decided that a "few" laws - like speeding - could be ignored ... take that point to its most extreme ...at what point would we then be "ignoring" rape and murder ?? or where do you say "its ok ..." ?? mugging ?? robbery ?? drunk driving ?? hit-and-run ??

Laws are either obeyed or broken .. there are no other options.

Don't patronise Nige ..................
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 January 2015, 23:08:43
until someone falls asleep in the control room

Not controlled from any control room, they are done by traffic sensors measuring volumes of cars automatically

Sensors must have fallen asleep then...  :-\  ;D
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 January 2015, 23:11:18
Smart motorways are all well and good until someone falls asleep in the control room.  ::)

A few months ago I was driving around the western M25 and all the gantry signs were showing 40, but it was 8pm, not a great deal of traffic and no accidents or hold ups.  :-\ 

I assumed that they had been left like that from the rush hour.....   ::)  >:(
Or...the motorway is only smart if the operator is smart. So it depends on where you are in the country. In the West Country, yokels will have it set at 10mph for their haywains. ;D

No smart roads around here, just clogged up ones especially in the summer with all the caravanists.  ::)
Title: Re: The snow does strange things
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 January 2015, 23:12:54
until someone falls asleep in the control room

Not controlled from any control room, they are done by traffic sensors measuring volumes of cars automatically

Sensors must have fallen asleep then...  :-\  ;D
Probably got bored with all that traffic trundling along at a heady 40mph... ::)