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Title: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 30 January 2015, 15:30:19
as ive done alot of mods on my engine with very good results and a lot of money thrown at it with custom parts made especially for me,why do vx charge so much for a bit of rubber,where ive actually used other makes and never had a problem,maybe because im using very high performance oil and it gets changed every 3k ,thought please.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: dbug on 30 January 2015, 15:37:19
AGP ones working ok on mine to date, around £5 a bank ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 30 January 2015, 15:42:03
Cool,these are 1 of the items that ive never had to get custom made,all tho money is no object to me,i begrudge paying stupid money for a bit of rubber,now if it was a sexy cat suit with a 6' tall busty blonde then hell yes i could justify it  :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 January 2015, 15:42:13
as ive done alot of mods on my engine with very good results and a lot of money thrown at it with custom parts made especially for me,why do vx charge so much for a bit of rubber,where ive actually used other makes and never had a problem,maybe because im using very high performance oil and it gets changed every 3k ,thought please.
The issue is a combination of things...

Firstly, cheaper pattern gaskets tend to harden and go brittle over time.

Secondly, if the breathers aren't kept clear then internal pressure forces oil past the failing gaskets leading to oil leaks and potentially killing plugs/leads/coil packs.

As I'm sure Dbug will testify, Allgermanparts supply an alternative to the GM ones which do seem to be upto scratch :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 30 January 2015, 15:46:42
Umm interesting,but i think with my setup breathers would never be blocked up,due to the oil i use,how often its changed etc,never had no problem with gaskets leaking using pattern parts tho,and bearing in mind my beast is not standard spec either  :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 15:49:55
Umm interesting,but i think with my setup breathers would never be blocked up,due to the oil i use,how often its changed etc,never had no problem with gaskets leaking using pattern parts tho,and bearing in mind my beast is not standard spec either  :y
So do you buy the cheap and nasty cam cover gaskets  :-\
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 30 January 2015, 15:52:45
Lol yes i do and not ashamed to admit it,if it works and does the job,thats fine with me.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 15:53:55
and they never fail  :-\

And how many miles they been in the car now
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: tigers_gonads on 30 January 2015, 15:54:46
The difference seems to be that on the cheepo ones, the half moon at the back tends to go brittle and subsequently leak.

You pay your money, you take your chances I suppose ..................

dbug, how long / miles has your cheepo ones been fitted ?
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: EMD on 30 January 2015, 15:55:11
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 30 January 2015, 15:58:10
I would rather have the 6' tall busty blonde in a rubber cat suit than pay that much for a rubber gasket .
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 16:00:59
This one is gonna drag on   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 January 2015, 16:01:08
I would rather have the 6' tall busty blonde in a rubber cat suit than pay that much for a rubber gasket .
Perhaps... but if they only last a fifth of the time, then the GM ones work out cheaper once labour time is factored in...
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: joff on 30 January 2015, 16:02:59
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

About £42 a side with o seals, on trade club :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 January 2015, 16:04:48
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

About £42 a side with o seals, on trade club :y
That's not too bad :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 16:07:20
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

About £42 a side with o seals, on trade club :y
That's not too bad :y
what for 2 bits of rubber...  :-X
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 January 2015, 16:08:30
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

About £42 a side with o seals, on trade club :y
That's not too bad :y
what for 2 bits of rubber...  :-X
12 bits of rubber that should last 10 years ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: EMD on 30 January 2015, 16:09:48
This one is gonna drag on   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Where's Ralf  ;D ;D

Wish my dealer would give me discount  >:(
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 16:20:13
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

About £42 a side with o seals, on trade club :y
Part no 55351456 is £28.55 + Vat
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: joff on 30 January 2015, 16:26:53
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

About £42 a side with o seals, on trade club :y
Part no 55351456 is £28.55 + Vat

Cam cover joint part number 090511451 £30 .32 trade plus vat
O rings x8 part number 090411826 £4.68 plus vat

If we are talking V6 :y

Part number 55351456 is for the later 3.2 and is one gasket, gaskets went up this month.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 16:30:39
Can the later v6 single gasket not fit all
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: joff on 30 January 2015, 16:32:15
Can the later v6 single gasket not fit all

Yes just cut the rubber connector parts off the middle.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 16:35:10
Can the later v6 single gasket not fit all

Yes just cut the rubber connector parts off the middle.
Part no 55351456 is £28.55 + Vat   Getting cheaper all the time then
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 January 2015, 23:35:56
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

For what?  A couple of strips of rubbery piss.

I've said it before. They should cost buttons, and Vx should be ashamed of themselves. :( >:(
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 23:42:36
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\

For what?  A couple of strips of rubbery piss.

I've said it before. They should cost buttons, and Vx should be ashamed of themselves. :( >:(
They are.. Every time they cash up at the end of the day  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 January 2015, 23:47:54
I can't see why Lord Opti's complaining as the cost of camcover gaskets is loose change to him, unlike us mere mortals....  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 30 January 2015, 23:57:25
from what i see cam cover gaskets for a v6 are £28 + vat
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: dbug on 31 January 2015, 00:05:26
and they never fail  :-\

And how many miles they been in the car now

Went in around last September - probably done around 3.5 -4K miles since then
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Andy B on 31 January 2015, 00:07:59
from what i see cam cover gaskets for a v6 are £28 + vat

The practice at changing them will prepare you for fitting the OEM gaskets  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 31 January 2015, 00:19:28
from what i see cam cover gaskets for a v6 are £28 + vat

The practice at changing them will prepare you for fitting the OEM gaskets  ::) ::)
that is a vx part andy

Part no 55351456 is both sides in one
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 31 January 2015, 11:40:16
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\
Only because you refuse to get TC ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 31 January 2015, 11:41:46
and they never fail  :-\

And how many miles they been in the car now

Went in around last September - probably done around 3.5 -4K miles since then
Do some more miles man! I need to change mine soon, so need to know they're good ;D
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 31 January 2015, 11:42:50
as ive done alot of mods on my engine with very good results and a lot of money thrown at it with custom parts made especially for me,why do vx charge so much for a bit of rubber,where ive actually used other makes and never had a problem,maybe because im using very high performance oil and it gets changed every 3k ,thought please.
I think you'll find most of us here change a around that sort of mileage ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: EMD on 31 January 2015, 13:01:47
How much are genuine cam gaskets now , last time i heard they were about £105 a set  :-\
Only because you refuse to get TC ;)

I think the oppsers at corby would throw it back at me  :( :(
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: robson on 31 January 2015, 18:05:42
Gm obviously dont make the cam cover gaskets .We need to find out the manufacturer :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: ted_one on 31 January 2015, 18:22:40
Yupp..found them in a trade directory......Wun Hung Lo Manufacturing, Wankin China :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 31 January 2015, 19:04:44
I think i will stick to my cheapo gaskets if gm 1s are made in china  ;D
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 January 2015, 19:10:24
Both banks should come to less than a fiver.

They probably cost about 20p to produce. :(
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: EMD on 31 January 2015, 19:50:10
Both banks should come to less than a fiver.

They probably cost about 20p to produce. :(

Im waiting for my contact in the usa to confirm how much the cam gaskets will cost from there  ;) Will be very interesting to see how much we are being ripped off over here  :y

Initial prices come back at $22 which is £14.60 per side  :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: VXL V6 on 31 January 2015, 20:40:55
40k on the ones on the 2.6 (about a years mileage), never cleaned the breathers in that time but do change the oil every 3 - 3.5K and the vast majority of my journeys are motorway. Cambelt and auxbelt kits being fitted tomorrow so might clean the breathers. Might!
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: biggriffin on 31 January 2015, 20:48:11
Gm obviously dont make the cam cover gaskets .We need to find out the manufacturer :y

Elring.  Think that's correct spelling :)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Steve B on 31 January 2015, 20:53:48
I keep chucking this up cos i wonder is the way to go.

Spoke to VX on friday and he said Part no 55351456 is £28.55 + Vat

This being the all in one cam cover gasket for the later 3.2 

So why not use that instead for all  :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Twintop on 31 January 2015, 20:58:30
Gm obviously dont make the cam cover gaskets .We need to find out the manufacturer :y

Elring.  Think that's correct spelling :)
Yep thats what i use on my beast cheap and cheerful lol
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: dbug on 31 January 2015, 22:01:19
and they never fail  :-\

And how many miles they been in the car now

Went in around last September - probably done around 3.5 -4K miles since then
Do some more miles man! I need to change mine soon, so need to know they're good ;D

Not down to me Jaime - SWMBO uses the Omega, I use the Jag ;)

Yupp..found them in a trade directory......Wun Hung Lo Manufacturing, Wankin China :y

If you're serious, says it all :o ::) ;D  Wankin in China, whatever next ???
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 01 February 2015, 10:16:43
Gm obviously dont make the cam cover gaskets .We need to find out the manufacturer :y

Elring.  Think that's correct spelling :)
Having seen the Elring pattern ones - the ones Autovaux ship as "genuine" - they are very different to the ones supplied by my local GM dealer.

So even if they are Elring, the ones supplied to GM and the ones supplied to the aftermarket channel are not the same.