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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: ted_one on 08 May 2015, 15:10:19
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Had the wheels off the 3.2 MV6 today for refurbing, and found a broken rear spring, the suspension is original police and I was thinking maybe it's time to fit new lowered springs.So I need a bit of advice on which would be the best for this particular car.
The 3.2 Elite has Irmy springs and B4's and although it rides OK,it gets hooked up on most speed bumps,also the 3.0 MV6 has Eibach springs and B4's but the ride tends to get a bit uncomfortable on the shite roads around here. So I was wondering has anyone got any better ideas for a set up....as usual all advice gratefully received TIA :y
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what is wrong with Vauxhall springs...the Vectra had gone through 2 pairs due to them snaping,,,mind you goes for MOT soon time for another set I guess :-\
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Feel the need to lower it a bit,just to update it as it seems a bit arse high and the 17's look a bit small with all that space around them :-\
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don't want it too low though :y
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Vectra C springs are made of cheese :D
Pauls has a set of Elite springs going, but not sure how that will drive with B4s :-\
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This is for the red MV6 Al,so at the moment the original shocks are still in situ,so I'm not sure about which route to go down.....think it may be a complete change i.e shocks/springs BUT nothing too extreme ::)
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Lol I only mentioned the Elite springs as Paul removed them to fit that set of Plod springs :y
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Would'nt have put them on this car,thinking new at this time :-\
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Fitted pair of Sachs from gsf last month to my 3.2 special with good results tho std ride height
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Unfortunately....not going to go down the standard straight replacement route,a small amount of lowering is the way I've decided on and although not every ones cuppa, I already have two other cars that have been lowered '' a bit'' and that having a broken spring on a 14 year old car that's done 80.000 miles, I would say that it's time to replace all round and it would be rude not to.So it looks like Eibach springs and B4's unless someone has got a another set up that works for them on a similar car :y
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Eibach Pro Kit lowering springs ftw :y
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As mentioned elsewhere, the rear won't take more than 20mm lowering from standard before the rear camber settings are too far out of range. So if using 30mm lowering springs, add 10mm to the rear by fitting extra cushion pads from another car or set of springs. They can be had in poly but not sure where from.
For you that only gives 5mm lower than non plod mv6 at the rear, front will be fine at 30 on standard wheels.
Last I heard lowered sports chassis is no longer available from GM, so aftermarket lowering springs are the only option.
I thought the Eibech set to be a bit softer than Irmscher on Pauls old car though...?
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Cheers Chris,
that info has thrown a different light on what I can or not do,will have to do a bit of research into what's available/suitable based on what you have outlined here. :y
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Took Humbucker's tip and looked at Eibach Pro Kit,30mm drop front and rear :y I guess they'll be OK with B4's :-\
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That's the setup I have on my 3.2 and I love the way it handles.
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If the oily bits on mine ever decide to work properly, I'll be going for Eibachs and B4s on both of mine, I think. And polybushes galore. I only do 2k a year in all the cars put together, so sod any worries about comfort...
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Cheers Chris,
that info has thrown a different light on what I can or not do,will have to do a bit of research into what's available/suitable based on what you have outlined here. :y
My rears are 265 so the bias towards inner edge wear on mine is slightly exaggerated. But, given the rear tyres are within 1mm(inner) to 2.5mm (outer)of replacement I certainly wouldn't go any lower than the 20mm lower than standard it's set to.
I'd expect to see that inner remaining 1mm disappeared by now, and both rears neeed replacing yesterday if it was at 30mm lowered.
Don't get me wrong that's ok of your aware and make a decision to accept that level of wear knowing the consequences, but most people aren't, and recommend to others. The other aspect of excess camber and associated tyre wear is straighline stbility stuffers, and tram lining comes in to pester the driver much earlier. Which mine has been for the last few months.
Vx may have been lax with their front camber setting tolerances, but as said, there's a very good reason why they only lowered the mv6 by 15mm from stock.
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Vectra C springs are made of cheese :D
Pauls has a set of Elite springs going, but not sure how that will drive with B4s :-\
For others reading. Fronts will sort of work, but the rear Elite springs MUST be fitted with self levelling. MUST! They can't cope without leaf levelling to hold them up.
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Vectra C springs are made of cheese :D
Pauls has a set of Elite springs going, but not sure how that will drive with B4s :-\
For others reading. Fronts will sort of work, but the rear Elite springs MUST be fitted with self levelling. MUST! They can't cope without leaf levelling to hold them up.
That suggestion was made on the premise that B4s would counter some of the softness :-\
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Understood, although mileage is around 3K a year,tyre wear is still a factor to keep in mind, so nothing other than a sensible refit .....no slammin' allowed :'(
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Vectra C springs are made of cheese :D
Pauls has a set of Elite springs going, but not sure how that will drive with B4s :-\
For others reading. Fronts will sort of work, but the rear Elite springs MUST be fitted with self levelling. MUST! They can't cope without leaf levelling to hold them up.
That suggestion was made on the premise that B4s would counter some of the softness :-\
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