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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Phil L on 25 June 2015, 00:23:46
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Out of interest, does an LPG upgrade give any improvement in MPG, or is it simply the case that the fuel is cheaper (not forgetting that the tank and LPG add weight to the car).
Thanks
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No, it actually gives you worse MPG, but the fuel is so much cheaper that it still saves you about a third of the cost. :y
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As a rough guide its about 10 percent down on mpg compared to petrol (about the same again on BHP) but 56p a litre still worth doing. :y
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As above, generally around 10% LPG loss, no improvements.
Given that LPG is half the cost of diesel around here, what ever you get on gas, you would need to double that to get same running costs on diesel.
So just 25 on gas, means you are getting a cost on the wallet of 50mpg :y
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LPG is not an upgrade. It's a tight arses way of saving money while compromising power output.
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LPG is not an upgrade. It's a tight arses way of saving money while compromising power output.
Not to the extent of buying a 1.4, mind. :-X
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LPG is not an upgrade. It's a tight arses way of saving money while compromising power output.
Not to the extent of buying a 1.4, mind. :-X
I bought the 1.4 for efficiency. I did not buy a 3.2 and strangle it. :P
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And, let's face it, for the cost of a decent lpg kit you can buy another omega. A 2.2 to take out on the days you're feeling
tight frugal. ;D
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And, let's face it, for the cost of a decent lpg kit you can buy another omega. A 2.2 to take out on the days you're feeling tight frugal suicidal. ;D
Fixed. :y
Anyway, LPG makes no noticeable difference to performance, unlike downgrading to a 2.2.. or a 1.4. ;)
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LPG is not an upgrade. It's a tight arses way of saving money while compromising power output.
Not to the extent of buying a 1.4, mind. :-X
I bought the 1.4 for efficiency. I did not buy a 3.2 and strangle it. :P
That snot green 1.4 would be more efficient on LPG if that's what you really want, but that requires the slightest understanding of anything other than lining the likes of we buy any cars pockets.
...and if installed correctly, obviously, the driver can't tell if it's running on gas or not. Genious. ;D
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LPG is not an upgrade. It's a tight arses way of saving money while compromising power output.
Not to the extent of buying a 1.4, mind. :-X
I bought the 1.4 for efficiency. I did not buy a 3.2 and strangle it. :P
That snot green 1.4 would be more efficient on LPG if that's what you really want, but that requires the slightest understanding of anything other than lining the likes of we buy any cars pockets.
...and if installed correctly, obviously, the driver can't tell if it's running on gas or not. Genious. ;D
How ironic. A sarcastic 'Genius' and he can't even spell it ;D
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Buying a high-powered 'gas guzzler' makes financial sense.
Twice as much to run......but three times cheaper to buy. :y
........and you're driving around in luxury rather in a spartan tin box. :y
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On the odd days that I feel like penny pinching I park up the 3.2 LPG Manual and run around in a 1.4 Tigra which turns around 40 mpg without trying. :y
Oh, and the Tigra is LPG'ed as well ;) ;D
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Useful feedback and then some comical banter... Which LPG installer would anyone recommend ?
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
Fire, in any tunnel, is disaterous, obviously. No escape for intense heat is bad enough without vessels of combustible gas. Fuel cans and transported vehicles need to be empty as well I hear...?
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
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LPG is not an upgrade. It's a tight arses way of saving money while compromising power output.
Not to the extent of buying a 1.4, mind. :-X
I bought the 1.4 for efficiency. I did not buy a 3.2 and strangle it. :P
That snot green 1.4 would be more efficient on LPG if that's what you really want, but that requires the slightest understanding of anything other than lining the likes of we buy any cars pockets.
...and if installed correctly, obviously, the driver can't tell if it's running on gas or not. Genious. ;D
How ironic. A sarcastic 'Genius' and he can't even spell it ;D
Got to give you "something" knowledgable to talk about. Haven't we. :P
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
Yea, in case they go Bang, which is bollards, as a exploding Petrol Tank will make a bigger mess than an LPG one.
Besides you get a better Breakfast on the Boat. :y
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Just what I was thinking too apart from the boat bit... No sea legs !
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
No, dickbrain, CHannel tUNNEL=Chunnel.
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
No, dickbrain, CHannel tUNNEL=Chunnel.
;D ;) :P
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
Quite simple, and falls into two points ..
1. When the "risk assessment" was done there were no LPG powered vehicles in common use, so they were never considered. To redo the "risk assessment" document now would cost a fortune and open up a whole can of worms that the Tunnel company don't want.
2. Same "risk assessment" document defined the risk of caravans/motorhomes etc that carry portable LPG bottles as acceptable PROVIDING THE TANK VALVES ARE MANUALLY CLOSED. Car LPG systems don't have a manual valve only a solenoid one.
So, LPG powered cars with fixed tanks not included in the risk assessment, and the LPG system itself cannot obey the instructions for portable tanks, so far easier, and cheaper, to simply say "no LPG powered vehicles allowed"
HTH :)
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
No, dickbrain, CHannel tUNNEL=Chunnel.
;D ;) :P
Now, go and torment the hamster or something ;D
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
No, dickbrain, CHannel tUNNEL=Chunnel.
;D ;) :P
Now, go and torment the hamster or something ;D
Dick brain. Interesting, from the village idiot on anything mechanical.
Now, back to general chat talking bollards. Go on, run along. You KNOW your not aloud ( ;) ) out of there.
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
No, dickbrain, CHannel tUNNEL=Chunnel.
;D ;) :P
Now, go and torment the hamster or something ;D
Dick brain. Interesting, from the village idiot on anything mechanical.
Now, back to general chat talking bollards. Go on, run along. You KNOW your not aloud ( ;) ) out of there.
Allowed....dickbrain ;D
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Well...come an ave a go if yer think yer ard enough
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/imagesCAI3TQ8I.jpg)
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No bombs allowed in the Chunnel.
Tunnel! .... know it all! ;D
No, dickbrain, CHannel tUNNEL=Chunnel.
;D ;) :P
Now, go and torment the hamster or something ;D
Dick brain. Interesting, from the village idiot on anything mechanical.
Now, back to general chat talking bollards. Go on, run along. You KNOW your not aloud ( ;) ) out of there.
Allowed....dickbrain ;D
....and that's dick-brain. ....dick-brain. ;D ;D ;D ....oh terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired.
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No, no terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, Y A W N :P
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No, no terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, Y A W N :P
Meds Steve. MEDS!
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
Insurance for the tunnel, an LPG tank can go in a plastic burger van ;D
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
Insurance for the tunnel, an LPG tank can go in a plastic burger van ;D
Frankly, I'd rather try to ram my Omega up my own tunnel than the channel tunnel after my last journey with them, so that's not a problem for me. ;D
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I also understand that LPG-equipped cars can't go through the Channel tunnel... What's the reason for this ?
Insurance for the tunnel, an LPG tank can go in a plastic burger van ;D
Frankly, I'd rather try to ram my Omega up my own tunnel than the channel tunnel after my last journey with them, so that's not a problem for me. ;D
I'm not a fan either, it's like taking your car on the tube. Always take the boat, bit of sea air and a walk about. Fresh for the French leg :)
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I know which I would rather use from the point of view of delays as well. I've done about 500 ferry crossings and been delayed three times, twice due to the bad weather, F11 gales, and once due to striking French dock workers who invaded the boat and formed a picket complete with banners, but after about an hour they agreed to leave.
I've used the Chunnel twice (4 crossings) and Eurostar three times (6 crossings) with a 50% delay rate. Twice the delays were significant, 6 hours+. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I used Eurostar for a long weekend break once, and never again. They seem to have a problem with keeping the power lines attached to the ceiling. ::) Tunnel was breaked on the way out for this reason, so got a one way flight at short notice.
Came to return and they wouldn't accept the return half of my ticket because I hadn't validated the outward part. I explained that their customer service on the way out was so good that the Police had had to step in to close the terminal area, so more chance of doing the foreskin earwarmer trick than getting them to do anything with the ticket.
They then explained that their system in the UK was different to the system in Brussels so they couldn't honour my booking anyway. Useless bunch of Onanists. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
They did send me a complementary ticket for my trouble. By return of post I enclosed it with instructions as to the whereabouts of the orifice in which it would be best inserted, to save them wasting time looking for an opening in their elbow. >:(
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They did send me a complementary ticket for my trouble. By return of post I enclosed it with instructions as to the whereabouts of the orifice in which it would be best inserted, to save them wasting time looking for an opening in their elbow. >:(
You got further than I did with that bunch of useless arseholes.
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I used Eurostar for a long weekend break once, and never again. They seem to have a problem with keeping the power lines attached to the ceiling. ::) Tunnel was breaked on the way out for this reason, so got a one way flight at short notice.
Came to return and they wouldn't accept the return half of my ticket because I hadn't validated the outward part. I explained that their customer service on the way out was so good that the Police had had to step in to close the terminal area, so more chance of doing the foreskin earwarmer trick than getting them to do anything with the ticket.
They then explained that their system in the UK was different to the system in Brussels so they couldn't honour my booking anyway. Useless bunch of Onanists. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
They did send me a complementary ticket for my trouble. By return of post I enclosed it with instructions as to the whereabouts of the orifice in which it would be best inserted, to save them wasting time looking for an opening in their elbow. >:(
Funny, I've never had an issue with the Chunnel, but have been stuck for hours on a couple of occasions waiting for the bloody ferry to turn up...
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Funny, I've never had an issue with the Chunnel, but have been stuck for hours on a couple of occasions waiting for the bloody ferry to turn up...
The thing is, to create a fustercluck of Eurostar proportions, all the ferries would have to sink on the same day, or the channel would have to dry up.
As the tunnel itself isn't reliable, any failures cause massive disruption the like of which can only be matched by the cheese eating surrender monkeys going on strike. ::)