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Title: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 11:28:51
I know a few people here have had a 406 and rate them highly, a few questions....

Car in question is a 2001 on a Y, 406 110 HDi

1) Does not look like this year would have a DPF?
2) If no DPF, re-map looks good modification, up to 145bhp with no issues/changes?
3) Maintenance looks straight forward from youTube videos, oil changes, filters, etc all look simple. Access looks good.
4) Are they generally easy to work on?
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 July 2015, 11:31:04
For yourself?
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 July 2015, 11:48:14
I did a Cambelt on one, no issues. 406 Handles like it's on rails, I once got 900 miles to a tank on a run which was over 58mpg
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 July 2015, 11:52:29
I did a Cambelt on one, no issues. 406 Handles like it's on rails, I once got 900 miles to a tank on a run which was over 58mpg

This will appeal to Mr Tunnie. :)
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 11:59:54
I did a Cambelt on one, no issues. 406 Handles like it's on rails, I once got 900 miles to a tank on a run which was over 58mpg

I did that several times with mine when it was 200k plus on the miles,if looked after the engine is bomb proof :y

Mine would do west Cornwall to Folkestone and back on a tankfill at motorway speeds 5 up with luggage and still not down to fuel warning light when I got back.
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: deviator on 14 July 2015, 12:08:46
Does the 406 have the bag of p155 behind the bumper? (No I'm not joking) Lorries use an additive in the diesel called AdBlue, which is refined urine. Some Pug cars have a bag of this hanging behind the bumper. Dealership prices are stupid, eBay provides much better sources for the stuff.
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 12:13:14
Think 2001 would be far to old for that? AdBlue is quite new?

I had to move a 406 recently, it belong to my grandfather, who sadly passed away last year. I only drove it a short distance, although have driven it before, but everything still works. Climate/Aircon, pulls well enough. It's spotless inside and out, only done 58k. It was left for around 6 months, popped it on charge over-night, next day started straight away.

It just sits in the garage, hardly used. Maybe gets an outing once every 6 weeks or so. 
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: 05omegav6 on 14 July 2015, 12:17:48
Some froggy diesels do require an additive, but might be Euro 4 and newer, so 2004/5 :-\
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 12:21:51
I doubt it even has a DPF
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: omegod on 14 July 2015, 13:00:04
I have a 2000 2.0 306 hdi that basically refuses to use fuel, 190k on it and it goes like a train. No DPF or DMF on it
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 14:11:40
I doubt it even has a DPF

It doesn't,no wee wee either :y
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 14:13:09
I have a 2000 2.0 306 hdi that basically refuses to use fuel, 190k on it and it goes like a train. No DPF or DMF on it

90 bhp Hdi's didn't get DMF but 110 bhp did :y
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 14:23:50
I have a 2000 2.0 306 hdi that basically refuses to use fuel, 190k on it and it goes like a train. No DPF or DMF on it

90 bhp Hdi's didn't get DMF but 110 bhp did :y

Same for 406 too?
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 July 2015, 14:25:25
Early 110 didn't have a dpf to my knowledge.

I'd love to try the 16v hdi 136!
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: Lazydocker on 14 July 2015, 14:55:05
Pretty bulletproof but dull plastics and unimaginative interior... Very frugal though
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 15:08:49
Early 110 didn't have a dpf to my knowledge.

I'd love to try the 16v hdi 136!

My Dad has that lump in a Citroen C5 auto,bit blunted by weight though as quite a heavy car
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 15:11:00
I have a 2000 2.0 306 hdi that basically refuses to use fuel, 190k on it and it goes like a train. No DPF or DMF on it

90 bhp Hdi's didn't get DMF but 110 bhp did :y

Same for 406 too?

Yes RHY 90 bhp is solid flywheel,RHS,RHZ 110bhp is DMF :y
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 15:19:10
I have a 2000 2.0 306 hdi that basically refuses to use fuel, 190k on it and it goes like a train. No DPF or DMF on it

90 bhp Hdi's didn't get DMF but 110 bhp did :y

Same for 406 too?

Yes RHY 90 bhp is solid flywheel,RHS,RHZ 110bhp is DMF :y

Thanks  :y

Did you ever re-map yours?
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 16:44:33
I have a 2000 2.0 306 hdi that basically refuses to use fuel, 190k on it and it goes like a train. No DPF or DMF on it

90 bhp Hdi's didn't get DMF but 110 bhp did :y

Same for 406 too?

Yes RHY 90 bhp is solid flywheel,RHS,RHZ 110bhp is DMF :y

Thanks  :y

Did you ever re-map yours?

Yes.from 110 to 130 ish,made quite a difference and no worse on fuel :y
I sold mine some 9 months ago but its new owner has piled another 10k on it since then,its around 230k now :y
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 17:26:12
Thanks  :y

At 58k this one is a baby then  8)
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 18:06:22
Thanks  :y

At 58k this one is a baby then  8)

Not run in yet,which 2.0 is it?,90 or 110 ???
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 18:32:10
Thanks  :y

At 58k this one is a baby then  8)

Not run in yet,which 2.0 is it?,90 or 110 ???

Fairly sure it's a 2.0 110 :)
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 18:40:11
engine number which is part of vin number will tell you,codes as my previous post,some have a sticker in drivers door shut area which shows it as well
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: 05omegav6 on 14 July 2015, 18:40:39
Didn't the 110s have a badge on the front wings to that effect :-\
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 18:41:45
Didn't the 110s have a badge on the front wings to that effect :-\

Mine didn't but some may have
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: tunnie on 14 July 2015, 18:48:27
When I've done insurance checks, it came back as 110 2.0  :y
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 14 July 2015, 23:10:21
When I've done insurance checks, it came back as 110 2.0  :y

Well that's the one to have,90 horses is fine in a 306 but shite  in its big brother.
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: Viral_Jim on 15 July 2015, 08:14:58
When I've done insurance checks, it came back as 110 2.0  :y

Well that's the one to have,90 horses is fine in a 306 but shite  in its big brother.

Depends what you want it for, if its just a cheap car to knock about in, I'd have the 90. Yes, its glacially slow,but no DMF means one less £500 plus bill to worry about. Not sure you'd buy either of them for the performance  :o
Title: Re: 406 HDI
Post by: henryd on 15 July 2015, 09:07:58
When I've done insurance checks, it came back as 110 2.0  :y

Well that's the one to have,90 horses is fine in a 306 but shite  in its big brother.

Depends what you want it for, if its just a cheap car to knock about in, I'd have the 90. Yes, its glacially slow,but no DMF means one less £500 plus bill to worry about. Not sure you'd buy either of them for the performance :o

Chipped 110 has a fair bit of grunt :y