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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: EMD on 14 July 2015, 14:56:53
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Went to change the oil and filter , only nipped the oil filter housing cap on last time and it wouldnt budge this time . Got a bar on it and the cap broke in half >:( >:( >:( >:(
Ordered a spin on adaptor , sod that every oil change :(
I went to get a spare cap off the 2.5 and the whole housing is spinning >:( >:( How do i get the thing off as the bolt is obviously come loose inside :-\
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Must be something in the air today,same problem,abandoned for the day.Is the adaptor still available from Vauxhall?
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Must be something in the air today,same problem,abandoned for the day.Is the adaptor still available from Vauxhall?
Yes adaptor still available ;) Thing is im stuck now as i cant get the spare one off the 2.5 :(
Im guessing the only way to get the one off the 2.5 would be to smash the base off and try and save the cap :-\
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No don't smash it.
I used big FO grips on the housing and got it loose. The housing is held in place with a 12mm allen key down the centre. HTH
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No don't smash it.
I used big FO grips on the housing and got it loose. The housing is held in place with a 12mm allen key down the centre. HTH
Yep , but the whole lot is spinning :(
Sorry Hoody just seen your post about the same problem .. hammer time then .
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Sorry I didn't word that very well. I used a big pair of grips on the spinning housing and a socket on the cap. I've managed this 2/3 times now, maybe I've just been lucky, but I've never smashed a housing to replace a filter.
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Sorry I didn't word that very well. I used a big pair of grips on the spinning housing and a socket on the cap. I've managed this 2/3 times now, maybe I've just been lucky, but I've never smashed a housing to replace a filter.
They must be big , not got grips big enough for that unfortunately :( Could try and wedge something in there but seeing as i shattered the housing cap on the 2.6 i doubt there will be enough grip to hold the base .. ill have a go though but not today as i ran out of swear words .
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I'd try one of those chain filter tools, the ones you're supposed to wrap around a spin-on filter. Hold the body tight, or get an assistant to do it, while you loosen the cap. Perhaps put some rubber between the filter tool and the body of the filter, to aid it's grip.
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I'd try one of those chain filter tools, the ones you're supposed to wrap around a spin-on filter. Hold the body tight, or get an assistant to do it, while you loosen the cap. Perhaps put some rubber between the filter tool and the body of the filter, to aid it's grip.
Thanks , ive got one of those so will give it a go . Its only to get me mobile till the parts come on thursday so if it dont work ill have to wait and then fit the spin on adaptor screw thing :y
I was only trying to be nice to the mig and this is how it repays me ::)
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I'd try one of those chain filter tools, the ones you're supposed to wrap around a spin-on filter. Hold the body tight, or get an assistant to do it, while you loosen the cap. Perhaps put some rubber between the filter tool and the body of the filter, to aid it's grip.
Thanks , ive got one of those so will give it a go . Its only to get me mobile till the parts come on thursday so if it dont work ill have to wait and then fit the spin on adaptor screw thing :y
Dim question - can you not spin the whole thing off as one?
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I'd try one of those chain filter tools, the ones you're supposed to wrap around a spin-on filter. Hold the body tight, or get an assistant to do it, while you loosen the cap. Perhaps put some rubber between the filter tool and the body of the filter, to aid it's grip.
Thanks , ive got one of those so will give it a go . Its only to get me mobile till the parts come on thursday so if it dont work ill have to wait and then fit the spin on adaptor screw thing :y
Dim question - can you not spin the whole thing off as one?
To be honest i'd ran out of steam but the whole thing seemed to be turning and not moving adrift .
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Try pulling it as you unscrew.
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Try pulling it as you unscrew.
Ah, thinking on, you need the internal bolt to unthread. If you can get a bar in between the housing and the engine block to apply pressure, that might help it, but I think the oil filter strap is more likely to succeed.
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Try pulling it as you unscrew.
Will do :y If i can get it all off in one piece then should be able to get the cap off in the vice .
Try pulling it as you unscrew.
Ah, thinking on, you need the internal bolt to unthread. If you can get a bar in between the housing and the engine block to apply pressure, that might help it, but I think the oil filter strap is more likely to succeed.
Yes was thinking maybe a screwdriver to prise it away and the chain strap on the base of the housing ..
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Just be aware that once it starts to spin, a few things happen...
1. It no longer seals.
2. The cap needs removing to either tighten or remove the retaining bolt.
3. For it to spin in the first place, either the retainig lug or the part of the block the lug locates in have failed.
4. Levering against the block has the potential to end in a visit from the scrap man.
Just saying, like.
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Just be aware that once it starts to spin, a few things happen...
1. It no longer seals.
2. The cap needs removing to either tighten or remove the retaining bolt.
3. For it to spin in the first place, either the retainig lug or the part of the block the lug locates in have failed.
4. Levering against the block has the potential to end in a visit from the scrap man.
Just saying, like.
The one on the 2.5 is spinning but just wanted the cap off that one to put on the 2.6 for now .. ill convert both eventually , point taken about levering onto the block .
If i cant get the whole bit off the 2.5 ill just take the bolt out the one on the 2.6 and wait for the new screw insert to arrive then fix the broken lug one on the 2.5 later .
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I wouldn't drive either of them until sorted.
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I think i know what your saying , maybe best just to unbolt the existing housing and await the new insert . Then seeing as ive moved the the housing on the 2.5 it wont seal so covert that too ::) But i still need to get it off , no rush for the spinning one though .
What a palaver ::)
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As I found that mine would not move I have always since then got the garage to change the oil and filter.I have wondered before whether they do change the filter or just put new oil in, will have to ask to see the old filter next time,
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As it's clearly essential to avoid spinning the housing, does that mean cutting/grinding/hacking the cap off is the only alternative if it won't move? To be follwed by the conversion job obviously.
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As it's clearly essential to avoid spinning the housing, does that mean cutting/grinding/hacking the cap off is the only alternative if it won't move? To be follwed by the conversion job obviously.
Yet to try the filter wrench but if that dont work then i will
punch a hole in the cap and get to the bolt that way .
Meanwhile i have removed the housing on the shattered
cap , cleaned up the mating surface ready for the
new screw insert and spin on filter .