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Title: Turbo failure?
Post by: Shackeng on 09 November 2015, 14:27:11
My first journey after satisfactorily fixing the power steering, and the TD has developed another problem. Anything above 2000 rpm the car emits clouds of black exhaust smoke and distinctly lacks power, with a 'roaring' noise from the engine bay. It is still driveable, but almost as if in limp mode above 2k rpm. I suspect it might be turbo failure.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 November 2015, 14:38:05
Check all pipework from the Airbox to the turbo for splits before anything else Shack  :)

Maybe a small split opening up under vacuum / pressure   :(

Doubtful I know but worth checking  :-\
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Shackeng on 09 November 2015, 14:39:31
Check all pipework from the Airbox to the turbo for splits before anything else Shack  :)

Maybe a small split opening up under vacuum / pressure   :(

Doubtful I know but worth checking  :-\

Thanks, had a quick look when it happened, but no sign of leaks, needs an in depth inspection.
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 November 2015, 14:53:33
as tg said, check all pipe work.

also whip the pipe off the turbo compressor and feel the pin that attaches to the compressor for play. lots of play is bad and is possibly sucking oil from the bearings back in to the intake. if so new turbo time.
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 November 2015, 15:02:30
Easier than that, pop under the car and remove the turbo outlet pipe (clean air side) and check the spindle, there will be some movement and check for oil in that area.

On most of the ones I have seen its usually the air cleaner to turbo pipe that's split or popped off or a pressure pipe split or popping off.

When a turbo goes its a very distinct howl !

Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 November 2015, 15:05:35
Easier than that, pop under the car and remove the turbo outlet pipe (clean air side) and check the spindle, there will be some movement and check for oil in that area.

On most of the ones I have seen its usually the air cleaner to turbo pipe that's split or popped off or a pressure pipe split or popping off.

When a turbo goes its a very distinct howl !

What 'e sed.  :y
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 November 2015, 15:06:06
If needed, I think I have a intercooler in the garden somewhere  :y
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 November 2015, 16:05:46
In fact I would go a stage further and say it cant be turbo given the symptoms.

The anti smoke on these power plants is based around the MAP sensor and engine revs, so the MAP is happy that enough air is being pulled through to allow plenty of fuel to be injected.

Hence something is either causing boost to be lost post the turbo e.g. a split or EGR stuck open.
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 November 2015, 16:13:27
and the smoke would be blue, not black as op states. get ya paws on it and check it  :)
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2015, 18:10:14
Additionally, you'll be pleased to know that turbos on those engines are pretty robust, esp if car has been well maintained.

I suspect you've forgotten to do up an intake pipe, or broken something related.
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Shackeng on 09 November 2015, 19:09:17
Additionally, you'll be pleased to know that turbos on those engines are pretty robust, esp if car has been well maintained.

I suspect you've forgotten to do up an intake pipe, or broken something related.

Exactly what I thought, as I have just had the (new S/H) i/c fan off to free it up, but only had to undo one pipe, however I think I remember tightening up its jubilee type clip, but will double check tomorrow.

Thanks for all the input guys. I've never played with  turbos before, and I don't even know where it is on the TD. It must be somewhere under the OS given the pipework disappearing down there. :y
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 November 2015, 20:24:10
It's at the side of the block on the off side
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Shackeng on 09 November 2015, 20:45:57
It's at the side of the block on the off side

Thanks Mark. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Shackeng on 10 November 2015, 10:38:52
Additionally, you'll be pleased to know that turbos on those engines are pretty robust, esp if car has been well maintained.

I suspect you've forgotten to do up an intake pipe, or broken something related.

Exactly what I thought, as I have just had the (new S/H) i/c fan off to free it up, but only had to undo one pipe, however I think I remember tightening up its jubilee type clip, but will double check tomorrow.

Thanks for all the input guys. I've never played with  turbos before, and I don't even know where it is on the TD. It must be somewhere under the OS given the pipework disappearing down there. :y

Well clearly i misremembered that :-[, as that pipe had popped off, so problem now solved, thanks for the pointers. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: STEMO on 10 November 2015, 11:51:33
Additionally, you'll be pleased to know that turbos on those engines are pretty robust, esp if car has been well maintained.

I suspect you've forgotten to do up an intake pipe, or broken something related.

Exactly what I thought, as I have just had the (new S/H) i/c fan off to free it up, but only had to undo one pipe, however I think I remember tightening up its jubilee type clip, but will double check tomorrow.

Thanks for all the input guys. I've never played with  turbos before, and I don't even know where it is on the TD. It must be somewhere under the OS given the pipework disappearing down there. :y


Well clearly i misremembered that :-[, as that pipe had popped off, so problem now solved, thanks for the pointers. :y :y :y

Result :y

Bet you were thinking about throwing it in the bin.  :P
Title: Re: Turbo failure?
Post by: Shackeng on 10 November 2015, 12:33:39
Additionally, you'll be pleased to know that turbos on those engines are pretty robust, esp if car has been well maintained.

I suspect you've forgotten to do up an intake pipe, or broken something related.

Exactly what I thought, as I have just had the (new S/H) i/c fan off to free it up, but only had to undo one pipe, however I think I remember tightening up its jubilee type clip, but will double check tomorrow.

Thanks for all the input guys. I've never played with  turbos before, and I don't even know where it is on the TD. It must be somewhere under the OS given the pipework disappearing down there. :y


Well clearly i misremembered that :-[, as that pipe had popped off, so problem now solved, thanks for the pointers. :y :y :y

Result :y

Bet you were thinking about throwing it in the bin.  :P

Nah, I would have fixed it, I love this car. :y