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Paris shootings and explosions near Stade de France kill 18
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203
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Yes. just been watching it.
It's only 10 months since the Charlie Hebdo shootings :(
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Details trickling in...up to 60 hostages held in a concert hall :o
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Make that 100 hostages :(
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Great, it's not like I have to go there on business.....oh wait......
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Just checked in with Brother in Law who is currently heading to his hotel. He was in a bar near the Pompidieu Centre.
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Not good .. my bet is the casualty count will rise rapidly .... I hope not ..but head rules the heart here .. :(
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Just checked in with Brother in Law who is currently heading to his hotel. He was in a bar near the Pompidieu Centre.
Glad he is ok. If needs any local assistance let me know.
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Just checked in with Brother in Law who is currently heading to his hotel. He was in a bar near the Pompidieu Centre.
Glad he is ok. If needs any local assistance let me know.
He's on a "School" (Uni) trip so should be ok but thanks. He's a big boy and can normally look out for himself, as long as he doesn't get swept up into it all.
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Who seen this sort of thing coming around again in a Eu/West country :-\ I did
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Who seen this sort of thing coming around again in a Eu/West country :-\ I did
Yeah and it wont stop we will never win the "war on terror" as they call it.
the blast was heard on tv during the france germany game the crowd i think thought it was a firework as they appear to cheer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34816905
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At least 120 dead, 200 + casualties some said to be critical .State of emergency declared.
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Who seen this sort of thing coming around again in a Eu/West country :-\ I did
Yeah and it wont stop we will never win the "war on terror" as they call it.
I fear you are right and I suspect that the UK is on the terrorist's "Hit List".
Trouble is, we have got to see through what we started otherwise it will just get worse.
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Suspect? UK must be very high on the list.
I would like to seethe West fight a psychological war with Satanic state. These special News programmes don't help the cause. Showing understandable panic, interviews with someone who knows someone who knows someone who was in France at the time.
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The only reason we haven't been hit like that is down to the incredible work that Mi5 and GCHQ are doing.
Sadly, its only a matter of time until it does happen on that scale on our streets >:(
What the answer is I don't know but one thing is for certain, Tony B liar and his chums will be well protected >:( >:( >:(
We reap what we sow as the saying goes ..............
Thoughts with ALL the families and friends of the poor people of Paris that have been caught up in this mess :(
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I think that we also have an advantage in that we have at least 23 miles of sea between us and the continent and we are not part of Shengen. Having uncontrolled borders which extend close to areas with little local governance (or governance of any kind) is a recipe for disaster.
I think this is one of if not the final nail in the coffin for Shengen.
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My cousin and her friends were in one of the bars, but thankfully, although in deep shock, they survived. Not sure if any have injuries yet. !!!
Its not the same when it affects you :(
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My cousin and her friends were in one of the bars, but thankfully, although in deep shock, they survived. Not sure if any have injuries yet. !!!
Its not the same when it affects you :(
You're not wrong... Hopefully all safe and well...
North Terminal is currently closed.
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My cousin lives in Paris full time.......as you will appreciate, details sketchy at the moment. Plus my signal here is crappy. >:(
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I am supposed to start a new contract there full-time in January..... :-\
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I think that we also have an advantage in that we have at least 23 miles of sea between us and the continent and we are not part of Shengen. Having uncontrolled borders which extend close to areas with little local governance (or governance of any kind) is a recipe for disaster.
I think this is one of if not the final nail in the coffin for Shengen.
I totally agree Guffer. The shengen agreement that allows unrestricted movement throughout the EU was , as now shown, not a good idea. Without proper border controls how can countries be sure of who is entering their country and for what purpose. As you say, it could be the end of Shengen and is that not a bad thing at the moment in my opinion. It,s not as if it is easy to travel at the moment with all the security checks at ports/airports etc. Thoughts to all who have been affected by this barbaric act. >:(
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Apparently Whitehall have confirmed the Attackers have entered France from Syria.
Just remind me how many Syrian Migrants are in the EU and surrounding Countries now.
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Trying times indeed.Condolences to the families of the victims.A brief step back and a considered response to this and other such attacks would I think reap better rewards than charging in all guns blazing-however satisfying that idea is!How the rest of the world can resolve the issue-and yes I do think it should concern the rest of the world-Is for greater minds than mine,if indeed a solution can be found.
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Apparently Whitehall have confirmed the Attackers have entered France from Syria.
Just remind me how many Syrian Migrants are in the EU and surrounding Countries now.
The Greek government have confirmed that a Syrian passport found at the scene belongs to a person who passed through Lesbos as a refugee. Who'd have thought it, eh? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Apparently Whitehall have confirmed the Attackers have entered France from Syria.
Just remind me how many Syrian Migrants are in the EU and surrounding Countries now.
The Greek government have confirmed that a Syrian passport found at the scene belongs to a person who passed through Lesbos as a refugee. Who'd have thought it, eh? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Shocked and stunned, shocked and stunned that such a thing could ever have happened....
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Apparently Whitehall have confirmed the Attackers have entered France from Syria.
Just remind me how many Syrian Migrants are in the EU and surrounding Countries now.
The Greek government have confirmed that a Syrian passport found at the scene belongs to a person who passed through Lesbos as a refugee. Who'd have thought it, eh? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Shocked and stunned, shocked and stunned that such a thing could ever have happened....
Was the writing not on the wall months ago.
Like many I just wish I knew what the answer to all this was, don't think this situation is going to go away.
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How many Syrian refugees has Camoron and his chums agreed to take? Only takes a handful of radicalized ones to be a future threat.
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Apparently Whitehall have confirmed the Attackers have entered France from Syria.
Just remind me how many Syrian Migrants are in the EU and surrounding Countries now.
The Greek government have confirmed that a Syrian passport found at the scene belongs to a person who passed through Lesbos as a refugee. Who'd have thought it, eh? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Shocked and stunned, shocked and stunned that such a thing could ever have happened....
Was the writing not on the wall months ago.
Like many I just wish I knew what the answer to all this was, don't think this situation is going to go away.
This is only going to get worse as the percentage of the European Muslim population increases. To see the fate of European Christians read the UN report on ethnic cleansing / genocide of Christians in the Middle East since WWII, where many countries no longer have any Christians, to see our fate. The UK will take a bit longer than most European countries but by 2060 UK Christians will be a minority and our fate will have been sealed.
The average European Christian family has 1.5 children which is less than the 2.3 replacement rate and the average muslim family is currently about 8 children, plus the European Ponzi welfare system means we must keep recruiting workers from abroad.
Welcome to 21st century realities. The problems are clear but I can offer no socially acceptable solutions. :( :( Don't make the mistake of thinking Islam is the same as other religions, where it's a total cradle to grave way of life and to be a good servant of God you do what the Imran's tell you. :o :o
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We could all move to Russia.
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We could all move to Russia.
Do they like us then ?
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According to my shift persecutee, it will all stop when the West stops meddling overseas.
Will it blox. I just wish they would stop pretending that it's about religion rather than mineral rights.
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We could all move to Russia.
They have an even bigger problem where Christians are already a minority and the level of violence makes it one of the more dangerous countries on the planet. Moscow was recently voted the most dangerous European capital city.
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Tend to agree with HKT here.Islam has naff all to do with it,power and wealth yes religion no.That's just a shield they hide behind.
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We could all move to Russia.
They have an even bigger problem where Christians are already a minority and the level of violence makes it one of the more dangerous countries on the planet. Moscow was recently voted the most dangerous European capital city.
I'm not a Christian, I'll be fine :y
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I think I'll buy a farm somewhere out in the US Mid west where I can sit in my rocking chair and watch the tumbleweeds go by. :-\
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According to my shift persecutee, it will all stop when the West stops meddling overseas.
Will it blox. I just wish they would stop pretending that it's about religion rather than mineral rights.
It's about 1500 years too late for that. That's about the time that Islam stopped moving with the changing times, and Christianity caused/moved with changes. And the animosity really took off.
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We could all move to Russia.
They have an even bigger problem where Christians are already a minority and the level of violence makes it one of the more dangerous countries on the planet. Moscow was recently voted the most dangerous European capital city.
Moscow in Europe? Do not however doubt it is a very dangerous city.
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We could all move to Russia.
They have an even bigger problem where Christians are already a minority and the level of violence makes it one of the more dangerous countries on the planet. Moscow was recently voted the most dangerous European capital city.
Moscow in Europe? Do not however doubt it is a very dangerous city.
Yes as it is west of the Ural mountains.
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Good US intelligence perspective from John Schindler.
http://observer.com/2015/11/jihadists-attack-paris-again-the-world-is-horrified/ (http://observer.com/2015/11/jihadists-attack-paris-again-the-world-is-horrified/)
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I stand corrected, makes Moscow the largest city in Europe.
So what action will the G20 come up with?
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power and wealth yes religion no.That's just a shield they hide behind
Problem being that religion breeds power and/or wealth at the higher levels. Be that Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Democracy, Politics, Dictatorship, whatever.
A new global war, lets call it WWIII, is on its way, which will be fought in the name of religion/freedom/whatever, but ultimately will be about power.
And such a war will play right into the hands of the extremists, which is why they attack targets capable and willing to respond.
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Let's make something very clear here. This has nothing to do with religion, Muslims, Christians, atheist, Catholic or anything else. This is about radicals.
And, just for the record, how do you think Christianity got so big? The crusades were no different to what is happening now.
That said, I'm not defending any of the current radical actions. The trouble is that if we invade a country to assist the locals in getting a democratic leadership then we must see it through to the end and not do half the job. That breeds resentment.
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We cant bring Western democracy to the Middle East, and we should stop trying to. The region has had thousands of years of living without democracy, and our arrogant stupid politicians think they can and should change that.
The euphoria over the so called Arab spring was pathetic to watch quite frankly.
Its actually a pity that Israel is in the middle of it, and that we still need the oil. Otherwise it could be virtually cut off from the Western world and ignored as irrelevant.
It is to do with religion, to the extent that, if you want total loyalty and commitment from people (to the point of suicide), if you can link your political cause (thirst for power) with their deeply held religious convictions, then your onto a good thing.
Its happened all over the world for centuries, most recently in Northern Ireland, as far as the U.K. goes, and wil be a difficult thing to eradicate.
The difference with the crusades was that people didn't know any better then. Most of the world had moved on a very long way over the centuries, but sectors of Islam are going in the opposite direction.
The answers to the problem would take politicians in possession of wisdom and a spine, requiring political correctness to be ignored, so don't hold your breath.
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We cant bring Western democracy to the Middle East, and we should stop trying to. The region has had thousands of years of living without democracy, and our arrogant stupid politicians think they can and should change that.
The euphoria over the so called Arab spring was pathetic to watch quite frankly.
Its actually a pity that Israel is in the middle of it, and that we still need the oil. Otherwise it could be virtually cut off from the Western world and ignored as irrelevant.
It is to do with religion, to the extent that, if you want total loyalty and commitment from people (to the point of suicide), if you can link your political cause (thirst for power) with their deeply held religious convictions, then your onto a good thing.
Its happened all over the world for centuries, most recently in Northern Ireland, as far as the U.K. goes, and wil be a difficult thing to eradicate.
The difference with the crusades was that people didn't know any better then. Most of the world had moved on a very long way over the centuries, but sectors of Islam are going in the opposite direction.
The answers to the problem would take politicians in possession of wisdom and a spine, requiring political correctness to be ignored, so don't hold your breath.
You hit the nail on the head there :y
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We cant bring Western democracy to the Middle East, and we should stop trying to. The region has had thousands of years of living without democracy, and our arrogant stupid politicians think they can and should change that.
The euphoria over the so called Arab spring was pathetic to watch quite frankly.
Its actually a pity that Israel is in the middle of it, and that we still need the oil. Otherwise it could be virtually cut off from the Western world and ignored as irrelevant.
It is to do with religion, to the extent that, if you want total loyalty and commitment from people (to the point of suicide), if you can link your political cause (thirst for power) with their deeply held religious convictions, then your onto a good thing.
Its happened all over the world for centuries, most recently in Northern Ireland, as far as the U.K. goes, and wil be a difficult thing to eradicate.
The difference with the crusades was that people didn't know any better then. Most of the world had moved on a very long way over the centuries, but sectors of Islam are going in the opposite direction.
The answers to the problem would take politicians in possession of wisdom and a spine, requiring political correctness to be ignored, so don't hold your breath.
I am deafened by the silence from the moderates of this religion, are they afraid to speak out ?
Are we not going to see Muslims in London, Luton and other cities of these isles where they are prominent, venting there anger in the street at what ISIS or whatever oppsed up name they call themselves this week are doing in the so called name of Islam ?
Why are we not hearing one after another the heads of State from the Middle East denouncing this stuff ? Why are we not seeing the millions under arms in these countries being deployed?
One minute they tell us they hate ISIS but now we get nothing but silence.
Why ?
All we hear is the pathetic attempts of western gravy train liberals to try the "explain" rationally why a totally irrational act has been committed and I am sick of it >:( These nutters cut off your head for a cartoon for opps sake >:( >:(
That has nothing to do western oppression, poverty or us being in their lands, it is imaginary friend fantasies' gone wild and it needs wiping out with an enlightenment similar to the one that rid the world of radical Christianity.
1500 years ago, the Christian faith moved forwards but those who seem to be the voice of Islam are moving backwards.
It's time for the end of faith ?
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Cameron.
Please instruct the media to stop the endless special News on Paris .Just playing into their hands.
Spell out to the parents of Jihadists that they risk being deported too and their passports revoking.
Close places of worship that give succour to terrorists.
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Cameron.
Please instruct the media to stop the endless special News on Paris .Just playing into their hands.
Spell out to the parents of Jihadists that they risk being deported too and their passports revoking.
Close places of worship that give succour to terrorists.
I find Sky feed off it and turn it into a comic book Theme.
Its like in there world, "This is all that is happening in the world"
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Cameron.
Please instruct the media to stop the endless special News on Paris .Just playing into their hands.
Spell out to the parents of Jihadists that they risk being deported too and their passports revoking.
Close places of worship that give succour to terrorists.
If only someone in power had the balls to do this .
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My son (21) is in Paris until next summer. He was not in this area on Friday evening.
I watched a lot of 'news' over the weekend which was very repetitive and almost a 'show' at times, but it was good to see and hear some more measured reporting and discussion too.
What to do? Who knows? It might as some say already be too late.
Our security forces do a great job protecting us and should be given every resource and power they need to do so. We face similar risks to those in Paris and other European countries. Fortunately we are an island and not a member of Shengen which helps. Shengen is broken and the external EEC borders open to all. The Continent is awash with weapons.
Border controls need to be imposed everywhere. We should not give away our citizenship like sweets. Benefits should be earned. There should be consequences for anyone travelling to Syria in support of ISIS who tries to come back. There should be consequences for those who support ISIS, who preach division etc. There has to be a limit to freedom of speech IMHO. With rights come responsibilities.
Vive La France!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Eug%C3%A8ne_Delacroix_-_La_libert%C3%A9_guidant_le_peuple.jpg/300px-Eug%C3%A8ne_Delacroix_-_La_libert%C3%A9_guidant_le_peuple.jpg)
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This clears it all up in a nutshell
Apologies for the long post but I think I've finally figured out what is happening in the Middle East:
President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (Hurrah!). But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good.)
So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.
By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS ( which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.
Getting back to Syria.
So President Putin ( who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi ) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?
But Putin ( still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).
Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.
So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.
Now the British (obviously good, except some freak called Corbyn who, incidentally wears a corduroy jacket, which is dead give away as that's never good) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).
So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (but let’s face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America (still Good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also Good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).
To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good (Doh!)
Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (mmmm... might have a point) and hence we will be seen as Bad.
So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (Good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also Good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, Good) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?
I hope that clears all this up for you.
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That Corbyn idiot has told Laura Kuenssberg that anti-terror police should not operate a shoot-to-kill policy on British streets in the event of a terror attack here.
"I say, old man. Yes, you with the suicide belt and Kalashnikov. You're being very naughty shooting people! Just put the gun down and we'll have chat. Have your human rights been infringed? OK, I understand that and we'll arrange your compensation as soon as you take off the suici.................."
Humour aside, Corbyn is both deranged and dangerous, IMHO. >:(
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Jeremy Corbyn, or Jihadi Jez as sky called him.
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For all the pontificating and bluster both here and on the so-called "media" .. who want to make the news not report it .. may I strongly suggest the reading of this item .. it's a tad long but extremely worthwhile, and hopefully will make some think a little more .....
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980
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More gunfire in the Saint Denis area of Paris this morning.Police saying this isn't another attack but a result of a police raid as they're looking for the mastermind behind the recent Paris attacks.
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More gunfire in the Saint Denis area of Paris this morning.Police saying this isn't another attack but a result of a police raid as they're looking for the mastermind behind the recent Paris attacks.
Yea, and one of them has blown themselves up, hopefully the Police / Raiders are all ok. :-\
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More gunfire in the Saint Denis area of Paris this morning.Police saying this isn't another attack but a result of a police raid as they're looking for the mastermind behind the recent Paris attacks.
Mastermind? ;D
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Mastermind was the term used in the news item,not my own term.Hopefully any taken alive will be questioned[with due respect for their human rights obviously ::)]to gain any possible information that could be of further use.Other than that France used to have[does it still?]a neat little gizmo that was very popular in the late 1700's that they could perhaps bring out of retirement? :D ;D
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Mastermind was the term used in the news item,not my own term.Hopefully any taken alive will be questioned[with due respect for their human rights obviously ::)]to gain any possible information that could be of further use.Other than that France used to have[does it still?]a neat little gizmo that was very popular in the late 1700's that they could perhaps bring out of retirement? :D ;D
That'd be against EU law as it'd breach their 'uman rights. ;)
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That I think is a big part of the trouble we're fighting to rules and they aren't >:( Sooner or later if we're going to make progress on this we're going to have to get down and dirty :y
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I was watching a news story about the quarter of Brussels where all the Muslims live, a hotbed of radicalisation and extremism apparently. Yet they are just left to get on with it, free from interference. Sheesh......
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I was watching a news story about the quarter of Brussels where all the Muslims live, a hotbed of radicalisation and extremism apparently. Yet they are just left to get on with it, free from interference. Sheesh......
A side effect of not actually having an elected government perhaps :-\
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Isis, or whatever they are called today, are well into beheadings so Madame Guillotine might be nice for them to experience it for themselves.
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Isis, or whatever they are called today, are well into beheadings so Madame Guillotine might be nice for them to experience it for themselves.
I disagree... no fuss or special treatment, just quietly take them out back and shoot them once in the head with a bolt, then incinerate the remains and add the dust to tarmac.
No need to even report it. Out of respect to their victims, the press could report that x number of people died in a gas explosion or bus crash. But make no mention of Theywhomustnotbenamed.
No publicity = No purpose = No more ISIS.
Job done.
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Isis, or whatever they are called today, are well into beheadings so Madame Guillotine might be nice for them to experience it for themselves.
I disagree... no fuss or special treatment, just quietly take them out back and shoot them once in the head with a bolt, then incinerate the remains and add the dust to tarmac.
No need to even report it. Out of respect to their victims, the press could report that x number of people died in a gas explosion or bus crash. But make no mention of Theywhomustnotbenamed.
No publicity = No purpose = No more ISIS.
Job done.
I agree. I think our media give them too much publicity sometimes which is what they want. eg So called 'Jihadi John'.
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Isis, or whatever they are called today, are well into beheadings so Madame Guillotine might be nice for them to experience it for themselves.
I disagree... no fuss or special treatment, just quietly take them out back and shoot them once in the head with a bolt, then incinerate the remains and add the dust to tarmac.
No need to even report it. Out of respect to their victims, the press could report that x number of people died in a gas explosion or bus crash. But make no mention of Theywhomustnotbenamed.
No publicity = No purpose = No more ISIS.
Job done.
I agree. I think our media give them too much publicity sometimes which is what they want. eg So called 'Jihadi John'.
I agree too,these bastard's are getting way too much airtime
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We should join our allies in the campaign in Syria. A vote in Parliament will show us what's what.
Proposed cuts in police forces should be reversed.
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Agreed with the airtime issue.
The entire point of the Suffragette movement's tactics was to generate media interet. Of course doign as many 'unladylike' things as possible. Of course the media storm, not least of all from being run over by a horse, contributed to the female vote. The Media affects change.
Curiously, Grimsby/Cleethorpes was part of a reasonably important cover-up in the Second World War. Butterfly bombs, if anyone's heard of them, were small anti-personnel explosives which were designed to flutter down, and then detonate only upon being disturbed. Basically, a number of locals were killed, but not a single mention was made in the local Grimsby Evening Telegraph. Hitler/the Axis, scanned all British news reports and found nothing referring to people being killed unexpectedly etc by these bombs. Declaring they were faulty/poor design/clearly didn't work as expected, the project was shelved. In reality, they were, of course hugely deadly, morally-sapping, and very cheap and easy to produce to boot, they could have wreaked havoc nationally, were it not for the press hushing up the whole event.
That one act saved possibly thousands of innocent civilians' lives.
Dear Worlds' Press
Know your history. It comes in.
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Well the French are saying that they killed the ringleader in yesterdays raids in St Denis. :y
I expect he is now enjoying himself with those 79 virgins......... ::)
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https://www.facebook.com/bewarmers/videos/608795702564208/?fref=nf
Billy Connolly sums up religion in under 4 minutes...
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It baffles me..seriously. I'm not knocking people, but how can anyone just believe, blindly? Having 'faith' is all well and good, but where does it come from? Is it instilled from birth? If so, then surely it's no more than any other old wives tale.
I can see plenty of reasons why it would be 'invented', to keep the ignorant masses in line, but for it to prevail in todays world. No, don't understand it at all. And it certainly causes enough trouble.
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Not seen Billy Connolly for a while,forgot how good he is and certainly that clip put some perspective on how people can be so misguided. :-X
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https://www.facebook.com/bewarmers/videos/608795702564208/?fref=nf
Billy Connolly sums up religion in under 4 minutes...
That clips so funny ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think he's onto something with the whores though. Rather than bomb Raqqa with explosives, we should parachute in a regiment of syphilitic AIDS ridden whores and they'll think they've gone to heaven and will shag themselves into oblivion. :y
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https://www.facebook.com/anonymous73000/videos/638079463003904/
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:y
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Saw it on news today,security forces fired off 5,000 rounds :o What the heck was everyone shooting at to loose off so many rounds? :-\
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Saw it on news today,security forces fired off 5,000 rounds :o What the heck was everyone shooting at to loose off so many rounds? :-\
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The French aren't very well versed in firing guns.
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Seems to me they've been to the American school of shooting ::) As in loose off a few thousand rounds and hope you hit summat :-X
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Having done a few house clearances during training I can easily see this mount of ammunition being used. I can remember one training session i went through 4 mags while clearing a 3 bed house. We were a chalk of 12 and that took half an hour including the fight on approach. We were also fighting and imaginary enemy who nicely gave up as we attacked each room and they didn't have suicide vests.
Don't forget it went on for up to 8 hours in Paris and if you to keep someone pinned down you keep shooting at them. Simples.
I also recalled that the SAS used a lot of ammo in the Iranian embassy operation. The coroner stopped counting the number of times one Tango was shot because after 120 it didn't matter. A chap by the stairwell if I recall.
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Putin tells the G20 the 40 countries that are supporting Satanic State and they include some around the G20 table. :( :(
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/11/16/breaking-putin-reveals-4o-countries-that-are-funding-isis-at-the-g20-summit/
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Well, if Steven Segal and Russell Brand agree, it must be true... ::)
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Ah yes RT, the bastion of independent and impartial journalism! ;)
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5,000 rounds, they say he was recognised by tissue match. Maybe each police officer took turns putting a full clip into him, if so good f***ing luck to them I won't loose any sleep :y
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12006996/Andrew-Neil-denounces-Paris-terrorists-as-Islamist-scumbags.html?fb_ref=Default
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12006996/Andrew-Neil-denounces-Paris-terrorists-as-Islamist-scumbags.html?fb_ref=Default
Good man, and quite brave. We need politicians to start espousing this kind of vocabulary, but the gutless bastards are too busy making sure they don't tread on anyone's toes. I'm afraid I tend to shoot first and ask questions later.
And as for comrade Corbyn, he needs to crawl back under his stone. Still, once we get back to 'normal' politics, his cabinet will surely realise just what a little slug he is.
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And, while I'm in the mood, another thing. I'm pig sick of hearing Muslims saying that, although they are law-abiding citizens, they are being treated badly because of their religious beliefs and appearance. Tough! If you don't like it the do something about it. Like start helping the country that you say you have made your home in to root out these cowardly bastards that show us one face while secretly stirring the shit behind the scenes. If one of your own starts saying that Britain is a shit hole and their armed forces are killing Muslims, then tell them to f**k off to the Middle East where they'll find like minded people.
Pretty soon, I hope, you'll be with us or against us. There'll be no standing in the middle.
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To STEMOs reply.. you hear the muslim community complain of hate crimes due to their beliefs but you do not hear them come out openly on the streets to denounce the acts of terrorism by the likes of ISIS and alqueda maybe a bit more outrage from them at such acts as commited in Paris may show their commitment to Britain and france. Just an observation or am I not being PC?
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To STEMOs reply.. you hear the muslim community complain of hate crimes due to their beliefs but you do not hear them come out openly on the streets to denounce the acts of terrorism by the likes of ISIS and alqueda maybe a bit more outrage from them at such acts as commited in Paris may show their commitment to Britain and france. Just an observation or am I not being PC?
Remember .. the "press" only report what THEY want you to read/hear/see ... there are plenty of imams and other moslem leaders who ARE speaking out, as well as many "normal" people ... but it's not what the left-wing luvvies in the press want you to hear .. so they don't report it.
A very quick search will find articles like this ..
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html
there are many others IF... big IF .. you can be bothered to look.
Many sides to every story .. and the truth is usually the lowest priority
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To STEMOs reply.. you hear the muslim community complain of hate crimes due to their beliefs but you do not hear them come out openly on the streets to denounce the acts of terrorism by the likes of ISIS and alqueda maybe a bit more outrage from them at such acts as commited in Paris may show their commitment to Britain and france. Just an observation or am I not being PC?
Remember .. the "press" only report what THEY want you to read/hear/see ... there are plenty of imams and other moslem leaders who ARE speaking out, as well as many "normal" people ... but it's not what the left-wing luvvies in the press want you to hear .. so they don't report it.
A very quick search will find articles like this ..
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html
there are many others IF... big IF .. you can be bothered to look.
Many sides to every story .. and the truth is usually the lowest priority
I prefer to look at more mainstream sites, I mean, the one Varche put up with Putin's views on financiers was a joke.
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And as for 'Beliefnet', it involves religion which, to me, makes it abhorrent.
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Given just how much 'information' is available on line, I question the accuracy of anything we're told... mainstream or otherwise. Which is why media restrictions would be a good thing...
I mean, anyone who gives that Corbyn ladycrevice any column space needs their head seen to... that nutter is clearly insane :o
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To STEMOs reply.. you hear the muslim community complain of hate crimes due to their beliefs but you do not hear them come out openly on the streets to denounce the acts of terrorism by the likes of ISIS and alqueda maybe a bit more outrage from them at such acts as commited in Paris may show their commitment to Britain and france. Just an observation or am I not being PC?
Remember .. the "press" only report what THEY want you to read/hear/see ... there are plenty of imams and other moslem leaders who ARE speaking out, as well as many "normal" people ... but it's not what the left-wing luvvies in the press want you to hear .. so they don't report it.
A very quick search will find articles like this ..
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html
there are many others IF... big IF .. you can be bothered to look.
Many sides to every story .. and the truth is usually the lowest priority
I prefer to look at more mainstream sites, I mean, the one Varche put up with Putin's views on financiers was a joke.
The reason for posting that was to illustrate that Satanic State is very well funded from many sources - some from countries that should know better. Lets look at Saudi Arabia for example. And yet we in Britain won't take them to task in case they ruin us by not buying yet more military kit and refuse to let us use the port they are building for us. A further ludicrous situation is that Satanic State was/is selling oil to Assads regime in return for Electricity! At least their fleet of road tankers is now much smaller.
I have reflected on the situation the world finds itself in and concluded that we have acted too late and too little. We are like we were in the face of Hitler before the second world war. In denial and pacifist mode hoping they will behave like gentlemen. The clue is in the wearing of suicide vests.
On the domestic front Satanic State will continue to wound countries with terror attacks as the norm. With resources and a very significant change of focus these might be contained. Id cards, serious border controls on and in the EU. New powers to evict or intern (there is a dirty word) returning jihadists and render stateless or try for treason, more police, more surveillance.
As far as Satanic State itself is concerned even a prolonged campaign with boots on the ground and eliminating every last person alive in SS's controlled lands belonging to Iraq and Syria will still fail. For sure we wouldn't hear much for a while but the ideology is so strong that Jihadists would gravitate back to the "Caliphate" and start all over again. There will never be peace in the Middle East until there is a world government. Too many vested Sunni or Shia interests. Don't believe me? How long have Palestine and Israel failed to be at peace?
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ISIS fatigue setting in here.
BTW.....just noticed your sig...very good ;D
Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and...........sing along now.......
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... cry, cry, cry.
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Right! I have the solution. Gonna watch the Simpsons instead of the news. :y
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To STEMOs reply.. you hear the muslim community complain of hate crimes due to their beliefs but you do not hear them come out openly on the streets to denounce the acts of terrorism by the likes of ISIS and alqueda maybe a bit more outrage from them at such acts as commited in Paris may show their commitment to Britain and france. Just an observation or am I not being PC?
Remember .. the "press" only report what THEY want you to read/hear/see ... there are plenty of imams and other moslem leaders who ARE speaking out, as well as many "normal" people ... but it's not what the left-wing luvvies in the press want you to hear .. so they don't report it.
A very quick search will find articles like this ..
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html
there are many others IF... big IF .. you can be bothered to look.
Many sides to every story .. and the truth is usually the lowest priority
Thank you for the article but as STEMO states and I was trying to put across though not very well you do not see these ideas expressed in the main stream press or out on the streets as organised protests.This I am sure would help clarify there position on such acts of needless violence.
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So its done, the required outcome from the Paris and Mali attacks is achieved
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34886971 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34886971)
One more step closer. :(