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Title: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: biggriffin on 19 December 2015, 18:48:32
whilst on a hunt I came across a couple of pieces of very rare rocking horse poo, I have even got photo's as proof.  :)

(http://[IMG]http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/diff%20mounts%20002_zpskef7btfm.jpg)(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/diff%20mounts%20002_zpskef7btfm.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: EMD on 19 December 2015, 19:46:42
You been going through serek's shed  ;D :D
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: BazaJT on 19 December 2015, 19:55:10
Ok I'm dumb :D What are they? :-[
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: biggriffin on 19 December 2015, 19:55:42
You been going through serek's shed  ;D :D

 no, I have, a shed too :)
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: YZ250 on 19 December 2015, 20:07:45
Ok I'm dumb :D What are they? :-[

Diff mounts I believe.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: biggriffin on 19 December 2015, 20:08:16
Ok I'm dumb :D What are they? :-[

They are your rare as hens teeth, or more commonly known as diff mounts.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: serek on 20 December 2015, 14:08:51
are we try get those made as polybush??
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: Nick W on 20 December 2015, 14:38:32
How many would be sold? I doubt it would be enough to justify the setup costs.


Al's experiments reusing the metal parts and casting urethane around them seems like a much more viable procedure to me. A couple of simple jigs could create a very low production line.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 December 2015, 15:07:31
What's the symptom of these rubbers perishing (easy stemo)? Presumably a knocking?
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 December 2015, 15:20:18
How many would be sold? I doubt it would be enough to justify the setup costs.


Al's experiments reusing the metal parts and casting urethane around them seems like a much more viable procedure to me. A couple of simple jigs could create a very low production line.
That's the basis of my idea, I used greaseproof paper, card and wax to mould my original set, but am looking to make summat a bit more durable to allow for repeatable results using different compounds to suit individual taste... mine are literally solid... which secure the back end a treat, but might be a bit harsh for some ::)
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: Nick W on 20 December 2015, 16:52:47
How many would be sold? I doubt it would be enough to justify the setup costs.


Al's experiments reusing the metal parts and casting urethane around them seems like a much more viable procedure to me. A couple of simple jigs could create a very low production line.
That's the basis of my idea, I used greaseproof paper, card and wax to mould my original set, but am looking to make summat a bit more durable to allow for repeatable results using different compounds to suit individual taste... mine are literally solid... which secure the back end a treat, but might be a bit harsh for some ::)


Some aluminium plate with screwed-on stations to position everything correctly should do the job, and cost next to nothing. Copious use of silicone release spray would make removal of the completed parts easy.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 December 2015, 16:58:04
Tricky part would be accurately positioning the two support plates... There is also limited scope for repositioning the centre block to compensate axle position variations from lowering :-\

Job for the New Year now
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: Nick W on 20 December 2015, 18:49:53
I was thinking along these lines(hopefully the picture will work!):



(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jeujvmjcvnpv7r/Diff%20Mount%20Jig%20v1.png?dl=0)


This model is not to scale as I have no suitable dimensions.


The Base Plate and Inner Clamp are 6mm aluminium. The Post is sized to fit the hole in the Mount inner. The bolt goes through the Inner clamp and Post and screws to the Base Plate. The Outer Clamp is bolted to the Base Plate and holds the U-shaped outer casing in place. The Inner clamp merely touches the Outer Clamp and locates everything.


Dimensions are probably best taken from an undamaged diff mount.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 December 2015, 19:47:28
What's the symptom of these rubbers perishing (easy stemo)? Presumably a knocking?
The back end feeling like it's about to fall off as you either chuck the car into a tight corner or as you power out... Tight roundabouts are a good test for this...
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 December 2015, 19:47:59
What's the symptom of these rubbers perishing (easy stemo)? Presumably a knocking?
The back end feeling like it's about to fall off as you either chuck the car into a tight corner or as you power out... Tight roundabouts are a good test for this...

 :y :y :y
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: biggriffin on 20 December 2015, 20:35:56
There's a company in St-Ives (cambs) called Clifton engineering, they make bonded rubber thingy's for motor sport, aerospace, trucks etc, could be worth a call for a 100 run or so. :)
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: sjc on 22 December 2015, 06:48:22
I'd take a set.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: TheBoy on 22 December 2015, 16:52:50
What's the symptom of these rubbers perishing (easy stemo)? Presumably a knocking?
Don't worry about it yet. When you get to drive it like its meant to be, then worry.
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: serek on 22 December 2015, 21:15:42
have found people who make them , will place order in new year let see what will turn up
price about £65 +PP

Edit: with few use them http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-ASTRA-Mk2-NOVA-REAR-ENGINE-MOUNT-DAMPER-90189509-NEW-/171328548209?fits=Model%3AAstra&hash=item27e3fa2d71:g:BOcAAMXQ9otTjz4B
need some work to get fit
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 December 2015, 22:19:25
What are good ones worth?
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: biggriffin on 23 December 2015, 07:44:49
What are good ones worth?
What ever people's are prepared to pay. :)
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 December 2015, 08:32:41
What are good ones worth?
What ever people's are prepared to pay. :)
Lol, that's what I said, but buyer looking for guidance  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: picture of rocking horse poo
Post by: biggriffin on 23 December 2015, 19:28:26
There's a company in St-Ives (cambs) called Clifton engineering, they make bonded rubber thingy's for motor sport, aerospace, trucks etc, could be worth a call for a 100 run or so. :)
http://www.cliftonrubber.co.uk/manufacturing/rubber-gaskets-and-rubber-seals/ (http://www.cliftonrubber.co.uk/manufacturing/rubber-gaskets-and-rubber-seals/)