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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: EMD on 08 March 2016, 13:23:11
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Vw golf 1.6 driver 1989 specifically : Any good ? Anyone owned one ? , body work seems immaculate , engine im not familiar with :-\ Gathering classic status pretty fast .
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Fair enuff ::) ;D
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If I owned a scrapyard, I would keep hold of all of my stock, it will be classic one day. ;D
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If I owned a scrapyard, I would keep hold of all of my stock, it will be classic one day. ;D
I think the omega has some way to go to become a classic yet but a worth while car to hang on to 8)
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We all have very fond memories of the cars we used to drive, I loved my triumph herald. But if we jumped in them now, I would imagine we'd be very disappointed.
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Have you seen the price of a 1971 1300L Escort recently?
Hell, I wish I still had the tidy, rustfree 1981 1.6GL Cortina that I sold 17 years ago for £75.
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If I owned a scrapyard, I would keep hold of all of my stock, it will be classic one day. ;D
I think the omega has some way to go to become a classic yet but a worth while car to hang on to 8)
Because it is good as a car. And will be for sometime. There are a lot of old cars that this applies to, and a lot more that are just toys. It's not hard to figure out which ones are worth cost the most.
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Mk2 Golf body
1.6 (75 bhp) bombproof engine (may have the 1.8 / 90bhp carb engine too)
GTI suspension and iirc, interior :-\
A good car in its day and yes, they are going up in price if in good nick
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A two door Golf VR6 holds a certain appeal.
Picky up a 'ratty' one for less than £1000.
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Since when has classic status been remotely linked to being a good car? ;D. I'd pick it up if its clean and I had the space.
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Have you seen the price of a 1971 1300L Escort recently?
Hell, I wish I still had the tidy, rustfree 1981 1.6GL Cortina that I sold 17 years ago for £75.
A car is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. If a group of fifty somethings fancy a thirty year old, mass-produced ford and are willing to part with their hard-earned to spend hours 'fixing' something that wouldn't pull you out of bed.......who am I to disagree?
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Have you seen the price of a 1971 1300L Escort recently?
Hell, I wish I still had the tidy, rustfree 1981 1.6GL Cortina that I sold 17 years ago for £75.
Indeed or my '84 Mk 2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X with factory manual box and lsd :'(
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Have you seen the price of a 1971 1300L Escort recently?
Hell, I wish I still had the tidy, rustfree 1981 1.6GL Cortina that I sold 17 years ago for £75.
Indeed or my '84 Mk 2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X with factory manual box and lsd :'(
At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder. :y
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Still one of my favourites of all the cars I have owned...
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Have you seen the price of a 1971 1300L Escort recently?
Hell, I wish I still had the tidy, rustfree 1981 1.6GL Cortina that I sold 17 years ago for £75.
Indeed or my '84 Mk 2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X with factory manual box and lsd :'(
At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder. :y
A friend of mine had the same lump in a Capri 280. Couldn't sell it way back then. A different story today, no doubt.
Nice car let down by over long gearing which meant too much gear changing. This was made worse by the lack of low end torque when compared to the 3 litre 'Essex' unit.
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Indeed or my '84 Mk 2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X with factory manual box and lsd :'(
At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder. :y
You'd go blind(not to mention die, be buried and rot away) before you ever got 160bhp out of the bloody thing. Ford were using an optimistic dyno that day*** Colognes are very disappointing whatever they are in.
*** I'm on holiday, so am feeling generous: They lied about the 160bhp
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Nowadays, of course, it would be considered lethargic. ;D
Mate of mine, who was a dealer, thought his 2.8 Capri was "a beast"
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Nowadays, of course, it would be considered lethargic. ;D
Mate of mine, who was a dealer, thought his 2.8 Capri was "a beast"
Lethargic is a little harsh, but they're certainly no longer fast in stock form.
Driven loads of 2.8i, and a 3.0l is much better under 100mph: it will pull 3rd gear from barely moving round to about 5500rpm(if you can stand waiting the last 750rpm as a stock 3.0l runs out of breath under 5k). Both cars have the same 3.02 axle ratio, and a 3.44 from a 2.0l Capri improves the 2.8i acceleration but spoils the cruising ability too much for me even with the weak 5speed 'box. Fitting a 2.0l axle to a 3.0l car just spoils both; it actually increases the 1/4mile time!
A 3.0l is more fun to drive, a 2.8i is a really good cruiser.
I prefer a 2.0l as it is a much better all-round combination than either.
It used to be possible to do this to a 2.8i for under £200:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/w7xbytnhunkxe9x/completed.jpg?dl=1)
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Indeed or my '84 Mk 2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X with factory manual box and lsd :'(
At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder. :y
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You'd go blind(not to mention die, be buried and rot away) before you ever got 160bhp out of the bloody thing. Ford were using an optimistic dyno that day*** Colognes are very disappointing whatever they are in.
*** I'm on holiday, so am feeling generous: They lied about the 160bhp
Oh I don't know. I knew a guy with a tvr s1a few years back. That had acceptable pace when it was running ;D
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Old boy round here takes his MkII Granada 2.8 to the local main agents for repair/servicing/mot, :o he's spent an absolute fortune on it-unsurprising really :D I would think his has to be a rare survivor as it runs the carb fed engine!
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Old boy round here takes his MkII Granada 2.8 to the local main agents for repair/servicing/mot, :o he's spent an absolute fortune on it-unsurprising really :D I would think his has to be a rare survivor as it runs the carb fed engine!
They far outnumbered the injected Granadas.
I'm amazed there's still anyone in the workshop who is prepared to work on it! Assuming they don't sub it out ;)
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That does surprise me I'd have thought injected engines to be more numerous,I bow to your greater knowledge though!No they don't sub it out,they still have a couple of "old timer"guys there,but I for one wouldn't fancy paying main dealer rates!!
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VW. golf especially drivers/rabbit's, are slowly creaping up in value. :o
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VW. golf especially drivers/rabbit's, are slowly creaping up in value. :o
Is a tuned VW Rabbit(and I thought you dislike Americanisms 8) hopped-up?
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There's a nice one on the bay, for all you boy racers:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-Volkswagen-Golf-Mk2-1-6-Driver-not-gti-mk1-mk3-mk4-r32-r-turbo-/262319976655?hash=item3d137d30cf:g:-zIAAOSwx-9WvhJF
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VW. golf especially drivers/rabbit's, are slowly creaping up in value. :o
Is a tuned VW Rabbit(and I thought you dislike Americanisms 8) hopped-up?
Boom...Boom...Boom ::)
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Classic status? It's a fickin 1.6 golf, and not even a particularly good one.
Have you seen the price of a 1971 1300L Escort recently?
Hell, I wish I still had the tidy, rustfree 1981 1.6GL Cortina that I sold 17 years ago for £75.
Indeed or my '84 Mk 2 Granada 2.8i Ghia X with factory manual box and lsd :'(
At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder. :y
puts 175 bhp for a 2.5 Omega into perspective.
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At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder.:y
puts 175 bhp for a 2.5 Omega into perspective.
Why? :-\
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At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder.:y
puts 175 bhp for a 2.5 Omega into perspective.
Why? :-\
Being 2/3rds the weight, the Granada will crack 8 seconds to 60... Summat a 2.5 Omega will never manage ;D
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At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder.:y
puts 175 bhp for a 2.5 Omega into perspective.
Why? :-\
As a teenager I had a friend who idolised the 280 Capri. Posters all over his bedroom and in awe of the phenomenal performance.
I have always had a nagging sense that I was missing something so for me it does put it in perspective ;)
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My dad considered a cologne engined Scorpio when he got his 24v Senator. Needless to say that idea didn't outlive the respective test drives. ;D
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My old 1.6 Capri couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding but i loved it and still miss it :( So easy to work on and rarely if at all went wrong :)
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My old 1.6 Capri couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding but i loved it and still miss it :( So easy to work on and rarely if at all went wrong :)
The simple cure for that was to replace the VV carb with a 32/36DGAV from a 2.0l Pinto. Takes about 10 minutes, and improves power, drivability, fuel consumption and reliability. 2.0l Capris aren't much faster than a 1.6, but they are nicer to drive; the increased torque allowed higher gearing that suited the engine better. Although the 2.0l 4speed gearbox is a clunky old thing.
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My old 1.6 Capri couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding but i loved it and still miss it :( So easy to work on and rarely if at all went wrong :)
Back in the mists of time I also owned a Capri. Just like yours mine was also a 1.6 OHC.
Built in 1974 (M) she was white with a BVR and a boot.
She looked the part but drove like a lorry. :-\
A snapped cambelt finished her off but surprisingly didn't take the engine with it.
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My old 1.6 Capri couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding but i loved it and still miss it :( So easy to work on and rarely if at all went wrong :)
The simple cure for that was to replace the VV carb with a 32/36DGAV from a 2.0l Pinto. Takes about 10 minutes, and improves power, drivability, fuel consumption and reliability. 2.0l Capris aren't much faster than a 1.6, but they are nicer to drive; the increased torque allowed higher gearing that suited the engine better. Although the 2.0l 4speed gearbox is a clunky old thing.
I fitted a Cortina 5 speed :y I remember that when it dropped on my fingers whilst underneath the car :o
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My old 1.6 Capri couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding but i loved it and still miss it :( So easy to work on and rarely if at all went wrong :)
The simple cure for that was to replace the VV carb with a 32/36DGAV from a 2.0l Pinto. Takes about 10 minutes, and improves power, drivability, fuel consumption and reliability. 2.0l Capris aren't much faster than a 1.6, but they are nicer to drive; the increased torque allowed higher gearing that suited the engine better. Although the 2.0l 4speed gearbox is a clunky old thing.
I fitted a Cortina 5 speed :y I remember that when it dropped on my fingers whilst underneath the car :o
Are you sure it wasn't your head? ;D
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My old 1.6 Capri couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding but i loved it and still miss it :( So easy to work on and rarely if at all went wrong :)
The simple cure for that was to replace the VV carb with a 32/36DGAV from a 2.0l Pinto. Takes about 10 minutes, and improves power, drivability, fuel consumption and reliability. 2.0l Capris aren't much faster than a 1.6, but they are nicer to drive; the increased torque allowed higher gearing that suited the engine better. Although the 2.0l 4speed gearbox is a clunky old thing.
I fitted a Cortina 5 speed :y I remember that when it dropped on my fingers whilst underneath the car :o
Ford never fitted Cortinas with 5speeds, as the gearbox was introduced on the Cortina's replacement. But because the T9 5speed is based on the Cortina gearbox it isn't difficult to fit - a slightly shorter propshaft, slot the gearbox crossmember mounting holes and some fiddling with the gearlever hole will do the job.
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My dad considered a cologne engined Scorpio when he got his 24v Senator. Needless to say that idea didn't outlive the respective test drives. ;D
The last 24v Scorpios could shift though if you could stand the looks :-X
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Scorpios always looked better when you were inside them. :D
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My dad considered a cologne engined Scorpio when he got his 24v Senator. Needless to say that idea didn't outlive the respective test drives. ;D
The last 24v Scorpios could shift though if you could stand the looks :-X
You have to compare like with like: a 12v Scorpio compares OK to a 2.5 Omega. A 24v Scorpio matches a 3.0l Omega unless you want a manual gearbox which weren't available in the Ford. The 4 cylinder cars are similarly comparable. There is no point comparing a 2.4 Scorpio with anything, as nobody bought them(V6 running costs with 4cyl performance guaranteed that from the start). 4WD was Ford only if that matters to anyone.
A Scorpio has more rear leg room, and the hatchback makes for an enormous boot which is why you rarely saw the early saloons. Ford's decision to only make the later cars as a saloon was very strange. Omega and Scorpio estates are equally useful. Both cars suffer from strut front suspensions that wear out bushes, but the Ford is cheaper to sort and the non-adjustable suspension causes fewer issues. Ford's weak 4speed auto and rust prone arches/floorpan easily make up for that. The Omega facelift improved the car inside and out, but the Scorpio facelift is still hard to understand 20 years later. Both cars are similarly comfortable, quiet and effortless cruisers that personal preference was hard to justify rationally. The Omega's extra five years of production mean that today it is still easy to find a good one.
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Ignore the wheels, had one of these in this colour...
(http://themustangsource.com/forums/attachments/f849/114026d1341159471-ecoboost-4-2-3l-replace-3-7l-v6-granada04.jpg)
For me, the Omega is the car that Ford should have replaced the Mk3 Granada with...
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If we are talking Grannies ... I thought this the best tow-car ever .. until I got the 3.2 Omega
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/00000004.JPG)
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Nice cars the Granadas, although the idea of owning a car thats beige on both the inside and the outside fills me with dread :o
;D
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Nice cars the Granadas, although the idea of owning a car thats beige on both the inside and the outside fills me with dread :o
;D
Never had an early gold facelift Omega then... ;D
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If we are talking Grannies ... I thought this the best tow-car ever .. until I got the 3.2 Omega
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/00000004.JPG)
Add in 4x4 and it would have been... Closest you'll get to that in the GM stable would be to fit the 4x4 Commodore gubbins to the Monaro... V8, 4x4 and a tidy coupe all in one car... Would tow 2100kgs too 8)
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Nice cars the Granadas, although the idea of owning a car thats beige on both the inside and the outside fills me with dread :o
;D
Never had an early gold facelift Omega then... ;D
Ha, no, I perfer the much more stylish Grey and er... Grey combo :P
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If we are talking Grannies ... I thought this the best tow-car ever .. until I got the 3.2 Omega
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/00000004.JPG)
Add in 4x4 and it would have been... Closest you'll get to that in the GM stable would be to fit the 4x4 Commodore gubbins to the Monaro... V8, 4x4 and a tidy coupe all in one car... Would tow 2100kgs too 8)
Seeing that pic has brought back fond memories, had a humble 2.0 Ghia (Pinto engine) and a RS tailgate spoiler. Loved it but a bit basic compared to the Desmond. :y
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At 160 bhp, that engine was a blinder.:y
puts 175 bhp for a 2.5 Omega into perspective.
Why? :-\
As a teenager I had a friend who idolised the 280 Capri. Posters all over his bedroom and in awe of the phenomenal performance.
I have always had a nagging sense that I was missing something so for me it does put it in perspective ;)
Ah, Sorry! I was going to say that the Omega way outdid the Capri in terms of torque, then I remembered that the V6 doesn't have any! ;D