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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Andy B on 13 March 2016, 00:24:02
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I though the Yes No vote was going to be a once in a life time ...... :-X
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35788489
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It was but they didn't get the answer they wanted :D I wouldn't be surprised if the EU in/out vote was the same and it'll be a case of keep voting until we get the "right" answer ::)
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Not clear on whom the independence is from... the UK or the EU ;D
At the moment Scotland receives cash from both, and without the oil, they'll need every last penny...
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It was but they didn't get the answer they wanted :D I wouldn't be surprised if the EU in/out vote was the same and it'll be a case of keep voting until we get the "right" answer ::)
Ain't that the truth. >:(
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Not clear on whom the independence is from... the UK or the EU ;D
At the moment Scotland receives cash from both, and without the oil, they'll need every last penny...
I still maintain Hadrian had the best idea ...... ::)
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There's a lot of confusion/misinformation (deliberate?) over just how much a drain on England's resources the scotch are. All are agreed that they have a net gain from our taxes, etc., disregarding the oil issue - which they claim to be theirs, despite its location and our expertise in finding and exploiting it.
Can any of the better informed Oofers say how much better off financially we would be if we cast them adrift, especially if Cameron took back all of the bribes he gave them before the vote?
Ron.
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There's a lot of confusion/misinformation (deliberate?) over just how much a drain on England's resources the scotch are. .
That's whisky or an egg ::) ::)
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There's a lot of confusion/misinformation (deliberate?) over just how much a drain on England's resources the scotch are. All are agreed that they have a net gain from our taxes, etc., disregarding the oil issue - which they claim to be theirs, despite its location and our expertise in finding and exploiting it.
Can any of the better informed Oofers say how much better off financially we would be if we cast them adrift, especially if Cameron took back all of the bribes he gave them before the vote?
Ron.
Think that should read the Americans not 'our'
And you beat me to it Mr B! LOL
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I read some treasury figures online a couple of years ago which suggested the overall subsidy was very close to £1 billion per month.
Cant find them now though. If I do, I will post a link. I would imagine the figure will have increased dramatically recently, due to the collapse in the price of oil.
I find it mind boggling that the SNP are hell bent on Scottish independence, yet also hell bent on remaining within the EU.
They used to recognise the stupidity of this, but changed their minds sometime in the 80,s. Around the same time as Labour did a huge U turn on the subject.
I think the EU referendum may show that the Scots aren't quite the bunch of Europhiles that wee Jimmy Cranky would have us believe though.
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I'm Scottish .
Not being domiciled there when the referendum took place I had no vote . I warned all friends and family that they would end up living in a country similar to the one I live in now if they voted to leave the UK , a country that has Sovereignty but no independence governed by tribes prepared to do anything to retain power. In effect a lesser country to the UK as a whole.
Thankfully the country seen sense.
It was always certain though that . like little children , if the SNP didn't get their way they would whinge and moan and demand a rerun. I have witnessed their slow rise to fame playing the " poor us " card since Winnie Ewing won their first seat in 1967 .
I've learned in life that the political animal is a dangerous beast who will use every tool in the box to secure what they want for the country in question.
If , and I hope they do , England votes to leave the EU the SNP will see that as their 2nd golden opportunity and manoeuvre for another vote.
What's that saying " be careful what you ask for ........" well I hope they get it this time and are forced to live with the repercussions , for ever.
Whisky and Oil , yeah that's an excellent base for a revenue stream ,better with pie in the sky.
The Irish showed the same beligerance 100 years ago and just look how well they have prospered .
I look forward to seeing what will happen with England out of the EU and Scotland out of the UK . How will England protect it's borders from all the European immigrants that will still be able to pour into Scotland ?
There is none of them so blind as them who will not see.
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What's indendance? ??? :P
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I wonder what they would say if England voted to remain and Scotland voted to leave ?
Unlikely I know, but it would be interesting to see what would happen. ;D
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It was always certain though that . like little children , if the SNP didn't get their way they would whinge and moan and demand a rerun. I have witnessed their slow rise to fame playing the " poor us " card since Winnie Ewing won their first seat in 1967 .
Indeed, they have basically no other mandate for their existence so its important for them to keep the question going round so the gravy train can keep on rolling! I was actually hoping that scotland would vote to leave. Just to watch it all fall down on Wee Jimmy Krankie's head. There's absolutely no way that Angela Merkel would allow them to join the EU as a lone state, they already have enough sick lame and lazy economies to support ::).
It says a depressing amount about the electorate that the independence mob couldn't tell them; what currency they would have; how they would deal with their debt; what trade agreements they could get; etc etc and yet the referendum was still pretty close.
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Thanks for that figure, "migv6"; is that a real, English billion of a million million or a septic one of a thousand million?
Sorry, "Andy B", but my adjective (scotch) is perfectly acceptable to an Englishman - check that ultimate arbiter of our language, the OED.
Ron.
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Hasn,t the SNPs stance always been allied to staying in the EU even if we voted to leave? ???
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I hope that Sturgeon gets her.
Then reality will set in and it may become a case of 'be careful what you wish for'.
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Sorry, "Andy B", but my adjective (scotch) is perfectly acceptable to an Englishman - check that ultimate arbiter of our language, the OED.
Ron.
I think there might be a few Scotts that would disagree ;) ;)
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Only if you speak scotch, not English. :P
Sorry Andy, only teasing, as I hope you know! :-*
Ron.
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Hasn,t the SNPs stance always been allied to staying in the EU even if we voted to leave? ???
Yup. But the EU said they would need to re-apply for membership as the agreement was with the UK. And not with an independent Scotland.
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Andrew Neill gave Ms Sturgeon the runaround today. Typical of all politicians, never answered the questions !!!!
Bitch ;D
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Sorry, "Andy B", but my adjective (scotch) is perfectly acceptable to an Englishman - check that ultimate arbiter of our language, the OED.
Ron.
I think there might be a few Scotts that would disagree ;) ;)
Scots...... ::)
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Hasn,t the SNPs stance always been allied to staying in the EU even if we voted to leave? ???
Yup. But the EU said they would need to re-apply for membership as the agreement was with the UK. And not with an independent Scotland.
Sorry jimmy, i should have said that the SCOTS would have to apply to join as they were/are in the UK when we joined. :-[
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At the moment, if Scotland had chosen independence, it would be broke, and in a huge pile of do-do due to there continued bleating on oil revenue,
They wouldn't make enough money before crude oil crashed, let alone now it's £35 a barrel, the people who know were advised to be quiet.
Take a drive around ABZ, o how the mighty are falling.
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At the moment, if Scotland had chosen independence, it would be broke, and in a huge pile of do-do due to there continued bleating on oil revenue,
They wouldn't make enough money before crude oil crashed, let alone now it's £35 a barrel, the people who know were advised to be quiet.
The oil wouldn't reach an independent Scotland, with or without the EU...
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Sorry, "Andy B", but my adjective (scotch) is perfectly acceptable to an Englishman - check that ultimate arbiter of our language, the OED.
Ron.
I think there might be a few Scotts that would disagree ;) ;)
Scots...... ::)
Tthere's a stticky tt on my keyboard ;-)
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Ignoring the movement of the England/Scotland North Sea 'border' as regards North Sea oil revenue and just as a piece of nonsensical nonsense, can someone say what percentage and how much revenue does scotch whisky add to the exchequer?
The ratio of Scotland/England would suffice?
Where is it manufactured again?
Hhhhhmmmm.....
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Ignoring the movement of the England/Scotland North Sea 'border' as regards North Sea oil revenue and just as a piece of nonsensical nonsense, can someone say what percentage and how much revenue does scotch whisky add to the exchequer?
The ratio of Scotland/England would suffice?
Where is it manufactured again?
Hhhhhmmmm.....
£3.95bn P.A. according to the Scotch Whiskey Association. Or to put it another way A Nice Wee Drop in the ocean ::)
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Take a drive around ABZ, o how the mighty are falling.
Really?!?
I work and live in Aberdeen during the week, and what you suggest should be the case, but I'm not seeing it! :-\
There are lots around here who's jobs are at great risk, but properties prices are still rising, high value vehicle manufacturers are still building fancy new outlets, so its no better or worse than 2 years ago.
As for the SNP, I wish my felLow countrymen would wake up and see them for what they are......a bunch of lying self indulgent f*&kers!
The last vote was supposed to be a once in a lifetime deal, and yet here we are within 2 years of that day, and they're at it again!
I'd rather stay as part of the UK, please!!!! ;)
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Is,t it the same with all referendums as the ROI and others have found, you have to keep going until the "right" result is obtained. A bit different with the SNP as they not in power in the UK so if they hold another ballot and HMG don,t recognize it, what then? :-\
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Ignoring the movement of the England/Scotland North Sea 'border' as regards North Sea oil revenue and just as a piece of nonsensical nonsense, can someone say what percentage and how much revenue does scotch whisky add to the exchequer?
The ratio of Scotland/England would suffice?
Where is it manufactured again?
Hhhhhmmmm.....
£3.95bn P.A. according to the Scotch Whiskey Association. Or to put it another way A Nice Wee Drop in the ocean ::)
£3.95bn is sales. Contribution to the exchequer is 76% of that. Certainly enough to keep wee Nicola in designer clothes and hairstyles, and maybe enough to keep Salmond in deep fried Mars bars. :D
Joking aside, its a pretty insignificant sum in the overall picture.
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Ignoring the movement of the England/Scotland North Sea 'border' as regards North Sea oil revenue and just as a piece of nonsensical nonsense, can someone say what percentage and how much revenue does scotch whisky add to the exchequer?
The ratio of Scotland/England would suffice?
Where is it manufactured again?
Hhhhhmmmm.....
£3.95bn P.A. according to the Scotch Whiskey Association. Or to put it another way A Nice Wee Drop in the ocean ::)
£3.95bn is sales. Contribution to the exchequer is 76% of that. Certainly enough to keep wee Nicola in designer clothes and hairstyles, and maybe enough to keep Salmond in deep fried Mars bars. :D
Joking aside, its a pretty insignificant sum in the overall picture.
Is this more or less than the revenue from the 'Scottish man-skirt'? :)
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Where is it manufactured again?
Well surely that depends on which politician you ask :P, or if its good or bad ;D
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Where is it manufactured again?
Hhhhhmmmm.....
Wales! :P ;D
http://www.welsh-whisky.co.uk