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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tigers_gonads on 01 July 2016, 15:52:01
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I've got a few nights work starting Sunday night working down in Newhaven.
The thing is, in the offices wisdom, they have put us up in the Europa Gatwick Hotel which if Google maps is to believed, is about a hour travelling time >:(
Looking at the route, its a trip down the A23 / A27
What are these roads like ?
We will be likely travelling north about 6 in the morning and south about half 5 or 6pm for a 7pm start :-\
Any heads up on roadwork's / traffic jam spots appreciated :)
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That will be at the start of the rush hour, so traffic will probably be heavy but moving. The A23 and start of the A27 are all good roads; the last few miles to Newhaven are merely OK.
An hour's travelling time is about right.
How flexible are the arrangements, as that area is hardly short of hotels?
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Shouldn't be too bad, not exactly a local Hotel though, plenty of other options to stay even if its in
Gay Sunny Brighton.
So to recap, take in consideration the Rush Hour(s), The Airport ques, someone spining it on the M23, a lorry dumping its load on the A23, or getting behind a Tractor que and Learners on the A27, should be fine, other wise you could probably do Leeds and back in less time where you live. ;D
I suppose the person to ask would have been Taxi Al, but sadly He's not around any more.
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The Europa is a shit to head south from... it's off junction 10a of the M23... southbound exit/northbound entry... and sits on the B2036.
This gives you two options...
1. Go back up the M23 to junction 10 to turn round... not pretty even at that time of day, especially if the weather is crap...
2. Head south down the B2036, taking a right turn onto the B2110 and join the A23 at Handcross.
Distance wise, there's actually little in it, but option 2 would be my preferred one.
Looking at 20-25 mins from the Europa to the A27, fast dual carriageway all the way, but well patrolled and often a traffic car/bike on a bridge or two...
A27 is Dual carriageway to Lewes, then single most of the way to Eastbourne.
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You will be going against the flow in the morning, so up to jcn 10 then straight down to the 27, then steady away into Newhaven.
Worst bit of whole journey both ways is A27/A23 it's a badly designed jcn.
There will be an ex taxi person disagreeing, :o
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Haven,t they got hotels in Newhaven? :-\
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You will be going against the flow in the morning, so up to jcn 10 then straight down to the 27, then steady away into Newhaven.
Worst bit of whole journey both ways is A27/A23 it's a badly designed jcn.
There will be an ex taxi person disagreeing, :o
On a bad day, the northboutd queue for j10 backs to nearly j10a... once committed to going that way, there is no plan b.
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You will be going against the flow in the morning, so up to jcn 10 then straight down to the 27, then steady away into Newhaven.
Worst bit of whole journey both ways is A27/A23 it's a badly designed jcn.
There will be an ex taxi person disagreeing, :o
On a bad day, the northboutd queue for j10 backs to nearly j10a... once committed to going that way, there is no plan b.
Drink tea and look at the girls going to work ::)
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try google maps, set destination with right click on map, set start location, choose leave time and day and it will estimate the journey time based on traffic at that time/day.
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You will be going against the flow in the morning, so up to jcn 10 then straight down to the 27, then steady away into Newhaven.
Worst bit of whole journey both ways is A27/A23 it's a badly designed jcn.
There will be an ex taxi person disagreeing, :o
On a bad day, the northboutd queue for j10 backs to nearly j10a... once committed to going that way, there is no plan b.
Nothing new there; twenty years ago I found it quicker to get from Haywards Heath to work in Manor Royal by avoiding the A/M23, going through Balcombe and past where the OP's hotel is. That was before J10a was there. Or the hotel for that matter ;D
I have to partially disagree with Bigriffin, although the A23/A27 junction ebound is badly laidout, the worst part is past Lewes to Newhaven.
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You will be going against the flow in the morning, so up to jcn 10 then straight down to the 27, then steady away into Newhaven.
Worst bit of whole journey both ways is A27/A23 it's a badly designed jcn.
There will be an ex taxi person disagreeing, :o
On a bad day, the northboutd queue for j10 backs to nearly j10a... once committed to going that way, there is no plan b.
Nothing new there; twenty years ago I found it quicker to get from Haywards Heath to work in Manor Royal by avoiding the A/M23, going through Balcombe and past where the OP's hotel is. That was before J10a was there. Or the hotel for that matter ;D
I have to partially disagree with Bigriffin, although the A23/A27 junction ebound is badly laidout, the worst part is past Lewes to Newhaven.
The road from the A27 roundabout into Newhaven dock takes 15mins at most,, on a busy day, if it's busy stop for a tea at the little tea van on right hand side, going in to Newhaven.
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The Europa is a shit to head south from... it's off junction 10a of the M23... southbound exit/northbound entry... and sits on the B2036.
This gives you two options...
1. Go back up the M23 to junction 10 to turn round... not pretty even at that time of day, especially if the weather is crap...
2. Head south down the B2036, taking a right turn onto the B2110 and join the A23 at Handcross.
Distance wise, there's actually little in it, but option 2 would be my preferred one.
Looking at 20-25 mins from the Europa to the A27, fast dual carriageway all the way, but well patrolled and often a traffic car/bike on a bridge or two...
A27 is Dual carriageway to Lewes, then single most of the way to Eastbourne.
That sounds good to me providing the weather isn't too bad :-\
What's the B2036 / 2120 like ?
B roads up here tend to be for tractors ect :-\
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The Europa is a shit to head south from... it's off junction 10a of the M23... southbound exit/northbound entry... and sits on the B2036.
This gives you two options...
1. Go back up the M23 to junction 10 to turn round... not pretty even at that time of day, especially if the weather is crap...
2. Head south down the B2036, taking a right turn onto the B2110 and join the A23 at Handcross.
Distance wise, there's actually little in it, but option 2 would be my preferred one.
Looking at 20-25 mins from the Europa to the A27, fast dual carriageway all the way, but well patrolled and often a traffic car/bike on a bridge or two...
A27 is Dual carriageway to Lewes, then single most of the way to Eastbourne.
That sounds good to me providing the weather isn't too bad :-\
What's the B2036 / 2110 like ?
B roads up here tend to be for tractors ect :-\
Pretty decent tbh, both two lane :y
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try google maps, set destination with right click on map, set start location, choose leave time and day and it will estimate the journey time based on traffic at that time/day.
I suspect he has. But local knowledge is always far better ;)
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow ;)
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;D ;D
Thanks for the info lads :y :y
Another question for that Taxi Al bloke if anybody knows how to get hold of him ::) ;D
Coming back in the morning, am I better off coming off the A23 at Handcross and using the B roads back to the digs ?
What's the A275 like ?
Worth it ?
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B roads back to hotel from Handcross... exit A23 at top of hill, then turn right onto B2110 and follow back to B2036 ;)
Wouldn't bother with A275 unless midday or overnight...
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;D ;D
Thanks for the info lads :y :y
Another question for that Taxi Al bloke if anybody knows how to get hold of him ::) ;D
Coming back in the morning, am I better off coming off the A23 at Handcross and using the B roads back to the digs ?
What's the A275 like ?
Worth it ?
There is no J10 Nbound exit, so you'll have to come off at Handcross. The B2036 and necessary other roads on that route are all decent fast country roads, and you'll only be on them for a few miles.
The A275 is a meandering way of finding a nice country pub for a pie and a pint on the way home. Not what you are going to want!
What you really need to do is have a quiet word with whoever is booking your hotels. Introduce them to a map while you're at it.
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;D ;D
Thanks for the info lads :y :y
Another question for that Taxi Al bloke if anybody knows how to get hold of him ::) ;D
Coming back in the morning, am I better off coming off the A23 at Handcross and using the B roads back to the digs ?
What's the A275 like ?
Worth it ?
There is no J10a Nbound exit, so you'll have to come off at Handcross. The B2036 and necessary other roads on that route are all decent fast country roads, and you'll only be on them for a few miles.
The A275 is a meandering way of finding a nice country pub for a pie and a pint on the way home. Not what you are going to want!
What you really need to do is have a quiet word with whoever is booking your hotels. Introduce them to a map while you're at it.
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;D ;D
Thanks for the info lads :y :y
Another question for that Taxi Al bloke if anybody knows how to get hold of him ::) ;D
Coming back in the morning, am I better off coming off the A23 at Handcross and using the B roads back to the digs ?
What's the A275 like ?
Worth it ?
There is no J10 Nbound exit, so you'll have to come off at Handcross. The B2036 and necessary other roads on that route are all decent fast country roads, and you'll only be on them for a few miles.
The A275 is a meandering way of finding a nice country pub for a pie and a pint on the way home. Not what you are going to want!
What you really need to do is have a quiet word with whoever is booking your hotels. Introduce them to a map while you're at it.
Its a young girl with a telephone, a computer and a Google maps ::)
The office has a list of hotels graded 1 to 3 (discounts / set prices that the firm get)
Protocol is, ring around the cheapest list first and find one that Google maps says is within 1 travelling hours distance and go from there ::) >:(
If they cant find one with breakfast, you get £3.50 for it as long as you send a receipt in and the tossers don't loose it ;)
In other words, they are a bunch of oppswits and haven't got a clue >:(
Job wise, you have to accept the job, the accommodation details come much later.
If you pull off a job without what they call a good reason, you get billed for with me been the driver, everybody's rooms and the hire car fees >:( >:( >:(
JOYS OF ZERO HOUR WORK EH >:( >:( >:(
Right, off darn sarf ................. southerners beware of a grey 65 plate Picasso been driven rather erratically by a well pissed off northerner :P :P :D :D
Thanks Lads and see yeh next week :-*
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow ;)
Right, results as follows:
Southbound from hotel to A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill...
1. B2036/2110: 7 minutes/5.6 miles.
2. M23 via J10: 10 minutes/9.7 miles.(Traffic will easily double this time).
Northbound from A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill to hotel...
1. B2110/2036: 8 minutes 5.7 miles.
Only thing I will add is don't dick about at the B2036/2110 junction as it's about 75m the wrong side of a blind crest and the B2036 isn't the slowest of roads.
Have fun amongst the loons ;D
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow ;)
Right, results as follows:
Southbound from hotel to A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill...
1. B2036/2110: 7 minutes/5.6 miles.
2. M23 via J10: 10 minutes/9.7 miles.(Traffic will easily double this time).
Northbound from A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill to hotel...
1. B2110/2036: 8 minutes 5.7 miles.
Only thing I will add is don't dick about at the B2036/2110 junction as it's about 75m the wrong side of a blind crest and the B2036 isn't the slowest of roads.
Have fun amongst the loons ;D
Well I made it back with me, the passengers and car in one piece ;D :y
Great bit of road and by yesterday, i'd got to know it very well and could normally do it in under 10 minutes in the Picasso providing you don't end up behind a lycra clad nut job ::), then your stuffed >:(
Must say that these new Picasso's are actually a pretty good bus and very comfy too :y :y
7 Friggin hours to get back to mine including nearly 2 hours to get to the M1 >:( >:(
And that was with only 2 15 minute pish stops too :(
Oh well, that's the end of Newhaven Harbour for a week or so :y
Next week its 4, 12 hour nightshifts in a Boots in Coventry with a bed at the Chace Hotel, Toll Bar End, Coventry ::)
Should get back home (if the traffic is good to me :-X) by 9am Friday morning :y :y
Sadly, its back on the road with the bus, back to Gatwick / Newhaven on the Saturday night / Sunday morning ready for a 7pm start on Sunday evening :'( :'( :'(
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow ;)
Right, results as follows:
Southbound from hotel to A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill...
1. B2036/2110: 7 minutes/5.6 miles.
2. M23 via J10: 10 minutes/9.7 miles.(Traffic will easily double this time).
Northbound from A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill to hotel...
1. B2110/2036: 8 minutes 5.7 miles.
Only thing I will add is don't dick about at the B2036/2110 junction as it's about 75m the wrong side of a blind crest and the B2036 isn't the slowest of roads.
Have fun amongst the loons ;D
Well I made it back with me, the passengers and car in one piece ;D :y
Great bit of road and by yesterday, i'd got to know it very well and could normally do it in under 10 minutes in the Picasso providing you don't end up behind a lycra clad nut job ::), then your stuffed >:(
Must say that these new Picasso's are actually a pretty good bus and very comfy too :y :y
7 Friggin hours to get back to mine including nearly 2 hours to get to the M1 >:( >:(
And that was with only 2 15 minute pish stops too :(
Oh well, that's the end of Newhaven Harbour for a week or so :y
Next week its 4, 12 hour nightshifts in a Boots in Coventry with a bed at the Chace Hotel, Toll Bar End, Coventry ::)
Should get back home (if the traffic is good to me :-X) by 9am Friday morning :y :y
Sadly, its back on the road with the bus, back to Gatwick / Newhaven on the Saturday night / Sunday morning ready for a 7pm start on Sunday evening :'( :'( :'(
Should have used A1 on a Friday. M1 was knackard, most of Friday 8-9, then 11-14 and the usual 15-17 then 23-25.
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow ;)
Right, results as follows:
Southbound from hotel to A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill...
1. B2036/2110: 7 minutes/5.6 miles.
2. M23 via J10: 10 minutes/9.7 miles.(Traffic will easily double this time).
Northbound from A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill to hotel...
1. B2110/2036: 8 minutes 5.7 miles.
Only thing I will add is don't dick about at the B2036/2110 junction as it's about 75m the wrong side of a blind crest and the B2036 isn't the slowest of roads.
Have fun amongst the loons ;D
Well I made it back with me, the passengers and car in one piece ;D :y
Great bit of road and by yesterday, i'd got to know it very well and could normally do it in under 10 minutes in the Picasso providing you don't end up behind a lycra clad nut job ::), then your stuffed >:(
Must say that these new Picasso's are actually a pretty good bus and very comfy too :y :y
7 Friggin hours to get back to mine including nearly 2 hours to get to the M1 >:( >:(
And that was with only 2 15 minute pish stops too :(
Oh well, that's the end of Newhaven Harbour for a week or so :y
Next week its 4, 12 hour nightshifts in a Boots in Coventry with a bed at the Chace Hotel, Toll Bar End, Coventry ::)
Should get back home (if the traffic is good to me :-X) by 9am Friday morning :y :y
Sadly, its back on the road with the bus, back to Gatwick / Newhaven on the Saturday night / Sunday morning ready for a 7pm start on Sunday evening :'( :'( :'(
Should have used A1 on a Friday. M1 was knackard, most of Friday 8-9, then 11-14 and the usual 15-17 then 23-25.
Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
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Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
2 hours from the M23 to the M1 during the busy part of the day? Sounds normal to me, although going anti-clockwise might save you 20minutes. Getting from Newhaven to the M25 without using the M23 is likely to add another hour to that.
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Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
2 hours from the M23 to the M1 during the busy part of the day? Sounds normal to me, although going anti-clockwise might save you 20minutes. Getting from Newhaven to the M25 without using the M23 is likely to add another hour to that.
Thinking M23 -- M25 anti clockwise -- M11 -- A1 Nick :-\
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7 Friggin hours to get back to mine including nearly 2 hours to get to the M1 >:( >:(
And that was with only 2 15 minute pish stops too :(
Took me just over 4 hours to get from Croydon to Chingford yesterday. >:(
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Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
2 hours from the M23 to the M1 during the busy part of the day? Sounds normal to me, although going anti-clockwise might save you 20minutes. Getting from Newhaven to the M25 without using the M23 is likely to add another hour to that.
Thinking M23 -- M25 anti clockwise -- M11 -- A1 Nick :-\
Gatwick to Dartford can take at least as long as getting to Heathrow...
Weekday M25 needs to be done before 6 or after 8:30/9 :'(
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Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
2 hours from the M23 to the M1 during the busy part of the day? Sounds normal to me, although going anti-clockwise might save you 20minutes. Getting from Newhaven to the M25 without using the M23 is likely to add another hour to that.
Thinking M23 -- M25 anti clockwise -- M11 -- A1 Nick :-\
Gatwick to Dartford can take at least as long as getting to Heathrow...
Weekday M25 needs to be done before 6 or after 8:30/9 :'(
Or you could pop into London and pop out the other side,...... if you fancy a long weekend away. ::)
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Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
2 hours from the M23 to the M1 during the busy part of the day? Sounds normal to me, although going anti-clockwise might save you 20minutes. Getting from Newhaven to the M25 without using the M23 is likely to add another hour to that.
Thinking M23 -- M25 anti clockwise -- M11 -- A1 Nick :-\
Gatwick to Dartford can take at least as long as getting to Heathrow...
Weekday M25 needs to be done before 6 or after 8:30/9 :'(
Left the hotel at 11am
Got to my house at 18:07 :(
Never been so pissed off with driving in my whole life :(
Somebody who I classed as a mate decided to sup 3 cans in the 45 minutes it took me to get from the job to the hotel, another before breakfast, opps knows how many while I got my head down for a couple of hours then a good 6 more until he run out of cans near Nottingham ::) >:( >:(
Then the @anker has a whine when I dropped him off at his front door because he expected me to travel straight home from Newhaven Harbour so he could get home earlier >:( >:(
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Well, he could always drive himself ::)
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Well, he could always drive himself ::)
I doubt it, sounds like he's permanently over the limit
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Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes. :y
Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile ;)
Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow ;)
Right, results as follows:
Southbound from hotel to A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill...
1. B2036/2110: 7 minutes/5.6 miles.
2. M23 via J10: 10 minutes/9.7 miles.(Traffic will easily double this time).
Northbound from A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill to hotel...
1. B2110/2036: 8 minutes 5.7 miles.
Only thing I will add is don't dick about at the B2036/2110 junction as it's about 75m the wrong side of a blind crest and the B2036 isn't the slowest of roads.
Have fun amongst the loons ;D
Well I made it back with me, the passengers and car in one piece ;D :y
Great bit of road and by yesterday, i'd got to know it very well and could normally do it in under 10 minutes in the Picasso providing you don't end up behind a lycra clad nut job ::), then your stuffed >:(
Must say that these new Picasso's are actually a pretty good bus and very comfy too :y :y
7 Friggin hours to get back to mine including nearly 2 hours to get to the M1 >:( >:(
And that was with only 2 15 minute pish stops too :(
Oh well, that's the end of Newhaven Harbour for a week or so :y
Next week its 4, 12 hour nightshifts in a Boots in Coventry with a bed at the Chace Hotel, Toll Bar End, Coventry ::)
Should get back home (if the traffic is good to me :-X) by 9am Friday morning :y :y
Sadly, its back on the road with the bus, back to Gatwick / Newhaven on the Saturday night / Sunday morning ready for a 7pm start on Sunday evening :'( :'( :'(
Should have used A1 on a Friday. M1 was knackard, most of Friday 8-9, then 11-14 and the usual 15-17 then 23-25.
Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?
I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there :)
I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better ;)
Leaving Newhaven at 07.00 to go hull shire,
The distance is more or less the same going anti or clockwise, also save your money and go up to m18, miss out Humber bridge,..
Dartford crossing is your Achilles heel, and M4 junction M25 the other way, listen to Radio 2 for traffic reports then make your decision as you approach M25,
But for out n out time if all's well m23/m25/m1/m18/m62.
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Radio 2 ::)
Just what a driver needs after a 11 hour night shift :-X ;D ;D ;D
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
Go via the Dartford Tunnel. Which is likely to be just as bad, as is the rest of the M25 round to the M11.
You could leave Newhaven, and go via Tunbridge Wells, Maidstone, Gravesend, Dartford Tunnel etc,etc. Or go via Lewes, Horsham, Guildford, Reading, Slough, High Wycombe and across. Or just go straight up across London. That's using just in the sense of "I'll just gnaw both legs off with somebody else's false teeth."
There is no good way of avoiding the M25 if you actually need to get somewhere. Not using it is much, much worse.
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
Not really, unless the m25 is closed, just watch everybody else, drink ya coffee and chill. If your brave and stoopid, go thro the middle. A23, croyden, mitchem, Sth circular, Kew, nth circular, the way before m25. :o :o
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...
I did actually think of that way
I was down in Abingdon a few weeks ago and that the way I went.
I don't mind a few more mile, its the sat still that does my tits in ;D
At the end of the day, the company pays for the fuel :D
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...
I did actually think of that way
I was down in Abingdon a few weeks ago and that the way I went.
I don't mind a few more mile, its the sat still that does my tits in ;D
At the end of the day, the company pays for the fuel :D
You could do Birmingham, M40, then M42 or M69 but its a bit of a fuff around, I used to do London, Hull and back on a regular basis a few years back tried all the routes many a times, in the end even though Im only 5 mins to the M11, I would always go M25. M1, M18, then north side of the Humber into Hull, always the quickest way. Theres just too many Roundabouts and HGV's on the non M parts of the A1.
Problem your going to have TG is leaving Newhaven at 7am, your going to hit the M25 peak rush hour(s), and I wouldn't go anywhere near Heathrow territory between 7 and 9.30 am.
Think if was me, I'd be having a lazy Breakfast, then aim to hit the M25 at around 9:30, M25 Dartford to M1 etc,
No easy way really, Google Maps with Traffic Update on will be your friend and fingers crossed..
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Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?
Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...
I did actually think of that way
I was down in Abingdon a few weeks ago and that the way I went.
I don't mind a few more mile, its the sat still that does my tits in ;D
At the end of the day, the company pays for the fuel :D
You could do Birmingham, M40, then M42 or M69 but its a bit of a fuff around, I used to do London, Hull and back on a regular basis a few years back tried all the routes many a times, in the end even though Im only 5 mins to the M11, I would always go M25. M1, M18, then north side of the Humber into Hull, always the quickest way. Theres just too many Roundabouts and HGV's on the non M parts of the A1.
Problem your going to have TG is leaving Newhaven at 7am, your going to hit the M25 peak rush hour(s), and I wouldn't go anywhere near Heathrow territory between 7 and 9.30 am.
Think if was me, I'd be having a lazy Breakfast, then aim to hit the M25 at around 9:30, M25 Dartford to M1 etc,
No easy way really, Google Maps with Traffic Update on will be your friend and fingers crossed..
Not any more ;) They all went many years back. From where I join the A14 from the A12 I don't see another roundabout at all until Catterick or Scotch Corner (depending on how I go in) when I go to mother's house in Richmond ;)