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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: terry paget on 03 July 2016, 11:51:19

Title: MV6 spec
Post by: terry paget on 03 July 2016, 11:51:19
What is MVC spec? Is it top of the range? There is an MVC 3.o manual estate on e-bay I am watching
, but am uncertain of it.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 July 2016, 12:09:41
Bucket seats - cloth or leather. Slightly lowered suspension,no air suspension, no memory seats, usually no satnav. Mechanically the same as other V6 engine cars. A pointless addition to the Omega range in my opinion.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: zirk on 03 July 2016, 12:10:13
Factory fit was pretty much CDX spec with 2.5/2.6 or 3.0/3.2, Sports Seats, rear Spoiler, 17" Alloys, HID's. Stiffer Suspension, and on the FL Prodrive front bumper and lowered height ride.

MV6 as in Plod flavor was standard GLS spec, 3.0, HID's, Stiffer / Stronger Suspension (not lowered) and probably had LSD fitted.

Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: biggriffin on 03 July 2016, 12:11:53
If it's the rare silver 3.0L Manuel in kings Lynn, then that is the correct spec,
Cloth recaro interior, 20% uprated and lower springs, otherwise same as all other 3.0L only thing wrong is it has 3 pedals  ;D

Why just put your bid in and leave it at that. ???
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: TheBoy on 03 July 2016, 12:31:50
Ignoring Plod base spec, and assuming UK spec (Euro MV6 spec is often top of the range)

PFL - N/A
MFL - MFL CDX spec, minus cruise, adding HIDs, larger wheels, sports seats, rear spoiler
FL - FL CD spec, adding HIDs, larger wheels, 15mm lowered, restyled front bumper, rear spoiler, sports seats
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Nick W on 03 July 2016, 12:40:02
Bucket seats - cloth or leather. Slightly lowered suspension,no air suspension, no memory seats, usually no satnav. Mechanically the same as other V6 engine cars. A pointless addition to the Omega range in my opinion.


That actually sounds pretty good to me; the only Elite thing I'd miss is the sunroof
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: zirk on 03 July 2016, 12:46:45
Bucket seats - cloth or leather. Slightly lowered suspension,no air suspension, no memory seats, usually no satnav. Mechanically the same as other V6 engine cars. A pointless addition to the Omega range in my opinion.


That actually sounds pretty good to me; the only Elite thing I'd miss is the sunroof
Sunroof was optional factory fit, so some, not many, do have sunroof.  ;)
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Steve B on 03 July 2016, 16:37:33
And no fake wood inside  :y
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Nick W on 03 July 2016, 17:56:37
And no fake wood inside  :y


The fake aluminium looks even worse.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Mr Gav on 03 July 2016, 19:31:13
And don't forget the ecu let's you play a bit more before the traction control kicks in  :y
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: terry paget on 03 July 2016, 19:52:38
Thank you gentlemen. As biggriffin imagined, I am looking at the e-bay Kings Lynn car. Current bid is £330, but its MOT expires today. Also Kings Lynn is 200 miles or 6 hours by rail away. As you may know, my son's 2.2 was rammed from behind while stationary on the M32, so I am looking to replace it.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: zirk on 03 July 2016, 21:56:15
And don't forget the ecu let's you play a bit more before the traction control kicks in  :y
Dont understand that one. :-\
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: TheBoy on 04 July 2016, 14:03:26
And don't forget the ecu let's you play a bit more before the traction control kicks in  :y
Nope, same ECUs with same tune
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 July 2016, 14:08:07
And don't forget the ecu let's you play a bit more before the traction control kicks in  :y
Nope, same ECUs with same tune
Could the perceived difference simply be that the gearbox, and possibly the engine ecu, adapt to the way a particular car is driven :-\

Harder driven Omegas do seem to go better than gently driven ones...
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: biggriffin on 04 July 2016, 14:42:01
Terry have you "asked seller a question" about the lack of mot
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 July 2016, 14:53:22
Terry have you "asked seller a question" about the lack of mot
The following should be the answer...

Test date: 1 July 2016

Test Result: Fail

Odometer reading: 83,016 miles

MOT test number: 1319 6090 0966

Reason(s) for failure: rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b) nearside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) offside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) nearside outer Ball joint has excessive play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) offside Rear wheel bearing rough when rotated (2.6.1) nearside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1) offside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)

Advisory notice item(s): offside outer Ball joint has slight play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) front brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened both heavy rusted on inner faces (3.5.1i) offside rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i) Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)

Be a good breaker :-X
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: terry paget on 04 July 2016, 16:41:32
Terry have you "asked seller a question" about the lack of mot
Yes, he said it expired that day (last Thursday).
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 July 2016, 18:54:37
Sounds like the front chassis is as rotten as a pear. As Dr. Gollum says, it would make a good breaker. But probably not worth the money effort & time as a car for the road. Unless its being almost given away.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: terry paget on 04 July 2016, 19:32:12
Sounds like the front chassis is as rotten as a pear. As Dr. Gollum says, it would make a good breaker. But probably not worth the money effort & time as a car for the road. Unless its being almost given away.
Quite so. Thanks Dr. Gollum. I did not know anyone could examine MOT failure data. That settles that.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 July 2016, 19:41:29
Sounds like the front chassis is as rotten as a pear. As Dr. Gollum says, it would make a good breaker. But probably not worth the money effort & time as a car for the road. Unless its being almost given away.
£350+ isn't give away money...

MoT history check link...

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history :y
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: pauls on 04 July 2016, 19:42:38
https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

just put in car reg and make of car. It goes back to 2006 i think :y


Beat me to it ;D must type faster
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Mr Gav on 04 July 2016, 20:37:21
And don't forget the ecu let's you play a bit more before the traction control kicks in  :y
Dont understand that one. :-\

The ECU is programmed slightly different to the Elite according to 2woody, the traction control allows a bit more slip before stopping play than it does with the Elite.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: biggriffin on 05 July 2016, 07:11:55
Sounds like the front chassis is as rotten as a pear. As Dr. Gollum says, it would make a good breaker. But probably not worth the money effort & time as a car for the road. Unless its being almost given away.
£350+ isn't give away money...

MoT history check link...

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history :y

More than I would pay to break it.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: amba on 05 July 2016, 08:12:51
Reading the past history,that has not been a "well loved car"...best avoided imho
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: zirk on 05 July 2016, 13:49:44
Terry have you "asked seller a question" about the lack of mot
The following should be the answer...

Test date: 1 July 2016

Test Result: Fail

Odometer reading: 83,016 miles

MOT test number: 1319 6090 0966

Reason(s) for failure: rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b) nearside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) offside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) nearside outer Ball joint has excessive play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) offside Rear wheel bearing rough when rotated (2.6.1) nearside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1) offside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)

Advisory notice item(s): offside outer Ball joint has slight play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) front brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened both heavy rusted on inner faces (3.5.1i) offside rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i) Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)

Be a good breaker :-X
No Mot, with the above Fails, Cost to Trailer it, and 350 quid, not worth taking it on, unless you specifically need it for spares.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: biggriffin on 05 July 2016, 18:02:24
Relisted..  ???.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: ronnyd on 05 July 2016, 18:18:37
At least you can see the MOT history. Always jars me off when sellers obscure the reg so you can,t check. Always makes me think they have something to hide. ???
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 05 July 2016, 21:24:52
MV6 spec is far, far superior to any other spec. But I would say that...

I much prefer the fake ally to the fake wood - so much so that I've painted the trim in my explod...!
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: Steve B on 05 July 2016, 22:17:55
MV6 spec is far, far superior to any other spec. But I would say that...

I much prefer the fake ally to the fake wood - so much so that I've painted the trim in my explod...!
The fake wood says "old mans car" and the fake alloy isn't fake...Its real  :-X
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: zirk on 06 July 2016, 00:26:33
MV6 spec is far, far superior to any other spec. But I would say that...

I much prefer the fake ally to the fake wood - so much so that I've painted the trim in my explod...!
The fake wood says "old mans car" and the fake alloy isn't fake...Its real  :-X
The early MV6's had Carbon Fiber trim on Consul and Doors, but alias it was fake Plastic Molding.
The latter MV6's had Titanium Metal trim on Consul and Doors, but alias it was fake Plastic Molding painted silver.
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: TheBoy on 07 July 2016, 18:33:21
And don't forget the ecu let's you play a bit more before the traction control kicks in  :y
Dont understand that one. :-\

The ECU is programmed slightly different to the Elite according to 2woody, the traction control allows a bit more slip before stopping play than it does with the Elite.
Nah, same map (ignoring some plod)
Title: Re: MV6 spec
Post by: biggriffin on 09 July 2016, 12:46:47
Terry have you "asked seller a question" about the lack of mot
The following should be the answer...

Test date: 1 July 2016

Test Result: Fail

Odometer reading: 83,016 miles

MOT test number: 1319 6090 0966

Reason(s) for failure: rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b) nearside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) offside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) nearside outer Ball joint has excessive play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) offside Rear wheel bearing rough when rotated (2.6.1) nearside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1) offside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)

Advisory notice item(s): offside outer Ball joint has slight play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) front brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened both heavy rusted on inner faces (3.5.1i) offside rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i) Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)

Be a good breaker :-X

Somebody's bought it, not me.