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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 04 July 2016, 23:02:45
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Any good?
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Driven a S80 V8 AWD - not a bad car, typical solid Volvo - better than the first generation S80s (up to 2006), and certainly more poke than the T6. Certainly better than a Ford Focus ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Interesting timing, I'll prob look for an XC90 for MrsT at some point.
Made me look at S80's, they do appear great value for money. Like the Omega a depreciation disaster means good news for us.
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Driven a S80 V8 AWD - not a bad car, typical solid Volvo - better than the first generation S80s (up to 2006), and certainly more poke than the T6. Certainly better than a Ford Focus ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm informed this engine is fitted to the Noble sports car, and with the aid of turbochargers gives 650 BHP.
Should I believe this?
The same source tells me the engine is made by Yamaha.
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Wonder if the take LPG well, boot looks big enough.
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Interesting timing, I'll prob look for an XC90 for MrsT at some point.
Made me look at S80's, they do appear great value for money. Like the Omega a depreciation disaster means good news for us.
Forums aren't very positive... :-\
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watch for the turning circle, my v70 had a terrible one and this has an extra cylinder in an already wrongly positioned engine
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Interesting timing, I'll prob look for an XC90 for MrsT at some point.
Made me look at S80's, they do appear great value for money. Like the Omega a depreciation disaster means good news for us.
I've always liked the look of a XC90, strange we never had these as motorway cars :-\ Only problem is unless you get a fairly new one the tax rate is about £500 / year. Never driven one but one of my colleagues has one and he absolutely loves it.
Re. the S80 only had a couple of these too on the motorway. the engines come in various guises of the T6 197bhp, 210 bhp, 241bhp, and the bonkers 341bhp. Quite roomy inside, but bland dashboard & interior. The engines are very refined & to get any 'performance' of of it you need at least the 210 bhp as its one heavy car. Its not quite as agile as the T5 (My personal opinion) and the suspension seems softer (rather like more of a elegant waft) as you drive it around. If you start throwing it around corners it will pitch and wallow. Fuel wise, well its a T6 so no comments needed really. I could easily empty a tank on a shift.
Reliability wise - I found the engines to be bomb proof & only needed regular servicing to get easily north of 200k. Front suspension takes a battering though being WWD and once a component goes get it sorted as tyre wear can be a nightmare.
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Car I had in mind is a 272bhp '02 plate... Has done some miles though, and needs some tlc... Looks like alot of car for the money though :-\
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The only problems we had when the miles got really up where they tended to overheat and the H/G would normally expire, but that said once the spanner monkeys at HQ sorted that issue, they'd carry on going. Usually other things little would give way after the head repair & their age & (the devil cars) were coming through so they were just auctioned off :'( :'( :'( for peanuts with a re-built top end.
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watch for the turning circle, my v70 had a terrible one and this has an extra cylinder in an already wrongly positioned engine
Yeah, you're not wrong. They're like a container ship to swing round. Top tip : if you're ever being chased by the fuzz and they're in V70s just keep pulling U turns ;D
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I'd be very wary of post 1998 volvo build quality. The products they produce are still nicely ergonomic and lightyears better than the shitty fords they are based upon, but build quality is not great. And under ford's custodianship the corner cutting will likely only get worse as time progresses.
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I think all WWD cars have a poor turning circle when compared to a RWD car,after all the joints on the drive shafts can only swivel so far.Must admit thus far I've not encountered any problems in this regard with the V70 but then I've not been in any situations with it where it would be an issue,but there's yet time ;D
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Must also stick to stringent oil changes. When I bought mine is had the crank seize because the previous owners did the yearly service (whatever that is) and the oil filter broke down and got sucked into the block. So that was an extra 750 for engine and fitting.
But the good news is the engines are modular and the ECU controls the power lol if it makes sense, in my case I had a 2.4 170 classic and the engine I bought was a 2.4 140 (the mechanics did laugh at me because I got the wrong lump) but I laughed at them when it fired up
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I'd be very wary of post 1998 volvo build quality. The products they produce are still nicely ergonomic and lightyears better than the shitty fords they are based upon, but build quality is not great. And under ford's custodianship the corner cutting will likely only get worse as time progresses.
Ford haven't owned Volvo since 2010, sold to Geely Automobile, a Chinese company. As for their build quality, compared with the BMW's I drive today, I'd take a Volvo any day of the week over them over-rated useless excuses for a paperweight!
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I'd be very wary of post 1998 volvo build quality. The products they produce are still nicely ergonomic and lightyears better than the shitty fords they are based upon, but build quality is not great. And under ford's custodianship the corner cutting will likely only get worse as time progresses.
Ford haven't owned Volvo since 2010, sold to Geely Automobile, a Chinese company. As for their build quality, compared with the BMW's I drive today, I'd take a Volvo any day of the week over them over-rated useless excuses for a paperweight!
And the big Volvos don't have any Ford in them. The first V/S40 were Mitsubishi based, and the later ones were Focus just like the Mazda 3
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I'd be very wary of post 1998 volvo build quality. The products they produce are still nicely ergonomic and lightyears better than the shitty fords they are based upon, but build quality is not great. And under ford's custodianship the corner cutting will likely only get worse as time progresses.
Ford haven't owned Volvo since 2010, sold to Geely Automobile, a Chinese company. As for their build quality, compared with the BMW's I drive today, I'd take a Volvo any day of the week over them over-rated useless excuses for a paperweight!
I stand corrected on the current custodianship of the brand. The ford vintage ones were certainly not built as well as the pre-ford ones was my point. And yes, modern BMW have taken what was always a pretty "meh, sod it that'll do" attitude to longevity and pushed the envelope as far as they could.
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Driven a S80 V8 AWD - not a bad car, typical solid Volvo - better than the first generation S80s (up to 2006), and certainly more poke than the T6. Certainly better than a Ford Focus ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm informed this engine is fitted to the Noble sports car, and with the aid of turbochargers gives 650 BHP.
Should I believe this?
The same source tells me the engine is made by Yamaha.
Correct. the same V8 is in the XC90 V8 too - they are pretty bomb proof.
I also have an XC90 D5. I've done 240k miles in it from new - so if you have any questions let me know. The Tax bands changed circa 2006 - 2008ish so be careful to check which ones you look at. Volvo got caught out a bit - so the early ones like mine is about £295, (163 & 185 bhp), they then went up for a period of time until the managed to get the emissions back down under the 500 quid level.
AWD is a common weakness - not much else tbh. Improved on later ones and easy to check if it's OK or not.
The D5 is a strong engine. 2.5T petrol are rare, but also worth looking out for. Avoid the 2.9 T6 - gearbox issues are gauranteed. The 3.2 is strong, the V8 :D would be the one to have - but they are rare too.
I'm on this forum too (same name ;) ) - do a search and you'll find plenty of info http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=37
You're right, I think the S80 would make a great successor to the Omega as a quality cheap motoring luxury express - plenty of engine choices.
Cheers
Ian. :y
I've driven the V8 S80 - same engine as the XC90 - luuurvelly - went like a stuck pig.
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Budget wise I'd be limited to pre 2006 for both XC90 and S80, so no tax issues.
Good to hear the XC90s can take the miles, as some high mile ones are good value. Maintenance looks easy top, no need to jack up for an oil change. Filter nice and easily changed from the engine bay, air filter box just clips. I foresee my driveway being a ~2005 XC90 and the 3.2 in the near future ::)