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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: TheBoy on 11 September 2016, 19:33:01
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OK, as I do not want a god forsaken Passat, anybody got any sensible options.
RWD
Capable of around 40mpg
200+ bhp
£10k ish
Generally good reliability
4 door
Good corrosion resistance
Ideally sub 10yrs old
It can't be:
BMW (I'd consider proper M stuff, but won't meet other criteria ;D)
Merc
VAG
Fire away :'(
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Jag XF 3.0d, I really liked everything about it. Around 6.5 secs to 60, fast, comfy, great driving position.
Shed loads of toys, RWD and awesome dash setup with gear selector.
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201607145848277/usedcars?logcode=visc (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201607145848277/usedcars?logcode=visc)
I'd consider wrapping the wood with carbon or silver effect :)
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Tbh, if you don't want the Jags, you are a bit stuffed. As I understand it you don't want to go LPG again due to lack of supply, the cars that are RWD and Diesel and don't fall into your "not allowed" list is square route of sod all!
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Jag XF 3.0d, I really liked everything about it. Around 6.5 secs to 60, fast, comfy, great driving position.
I had discomfort issues after 2hrs driving a poverty spec XF Luxury.
Shed loads of toys, RWD and awesome dash setup with gear selector.
Gimmicks like the gear selector and air vents are of no interest to me. In fact they worry me, as pointless, yet expensive to repair.
XF was on my original list, but the test drive knocked it off, due to the (lack of) seat comfort. As it was the only car on the original list, that's left me scuppered a bit ;D
Also, £10k will struggle to buy a 3.0l diesel now, unlike 4 months ago.
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Tbh, if you don't want the Jags, you are a bit stuffed. As I understand it you don't want to go LPG again due to lack of supply, the cars that are RWD and Diesel and don't fall into your "not allowed" list is square route of sod all!
Tell me about it. If I go XJ, it would have to be the newer style else it will smell of wee, and then budget is blown. And the arse is pig ugly (sorry dbug ;D)
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Tbh, if you don't want the Jags, you are a bit stuffed. As I understand it you don't want to go LPG again due to lack of supply, the cars that are RWD and Diesel and don't fall into your "not allowed" list is square route of sod all!
Tell me about it. If I go XJ, it would have to be the newer style else it will smell of wee, and then budget is blown. And the arse is pig ugly (sorry dbug ;D)
Saw new shape XJ when getting the CC, thought, yes one day! £25k though :'(
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Lexus LS460 pretty much ticks all the boxes apart from the MPG, But on paper at least despite the V8 should be better on fuel than a Omega.
It's a little on the big side, can't see it handling well especially in the twisties, Probably make you feel sick :D
Probably one of the most comfortable cars I've been a (passenger in) completely silent inside even on a windy day very relaxing. Plenty of gadgets, Should be reliable. 0-60 is around 6 seconds.
Looks a little bland but a little more sophisticated / clean look over the LS430.
No idea about servicing costs that's the only grey area I haven't looked much into.
Boring but sensible long term car pretty much sums it up? :y
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No big diesel in the Lexus IIRC?
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No big diesel in the Lexus IIRC?
Not in that generation of Lexus LS, No idea about the newer LS.. There's always the hybrid version of the LS but that's a very expensive problem waiting to happen IMO. Think it's called the LS600H.
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An S-type with the 2.7 V6 derv?
or an XJ as mentioned.
If you could be without RWD there´s the Volvo S80 (AWD availible)
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An S-type with the 2.7 V6 derv?
or an XJ as mentioned.
If you could be without RWD there´s the Volvo S80 (AWD availible)
I could never see the fatty little admin in an S-Type. ;D ;D
Also widely agreed the 3.0d was far, far superior to the 2.7d. Which means XF or XJ. :)
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Remind me , what is wrong with the Chrysler 300?
If not what about an import? Holden perhaps?
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Remind me , what is wrong with the Chrysler 300?
It's an ancient E-class Merc built by Americans.
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And? Moving from one jam to another.....
Just a thought. I have never really liked the styling.
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Remind me , what is wrong with the Chrysler 300?
It's an ancient E-class Merc built by Americans.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well maintained Evo V111 ?
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Well maintained Evo V111 ?
Have you ever driven one? It's a car for masochistic 23 year olds.
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Perfect :y ;D
Jaguar it is.
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Tbh, if you don't want the Jags, you are a bit stuffed. As I understand it you don't want to go LPG again due to lack of supply, the cars that are RWD and Diesel and don't fall into your "not allowed" list is square route of sod all!
Tell me about it. If I go XJ, it would have to be the newer style else it will smell of wee, and then budget is blown. And the arse is pig ugly (sorry dbug ;D)
The X350/X358 in 3.0V6 were a pretty quick car comfortable car (around 240 bhp), around same petrol consuption as an Omega, but so so much more comfortable and driveable, or go for the blown 4.2 V8. Mine never smelled of wee ;)
The X351, in V8 guise, is an extremely quick car, but to get a good one you will need to put down £25K++, but they are holding their prices unlike the more common weasels - I've had mine 18+ months now and Jag have offered me more than I paid for it in p/ex against a newer one. I'll hang on to it - its not reached 40K miles yet!! Regarding the arse end, I never notice it when driving it, or when its parked in my drive, as I can only see the front, but it does grow on you. But the range of toys and the 1200w B&W sound system are something else. Save up for an XJ Jaime - even the lower spec ones are well appointed, although I have to say the Portfolio spec is excellent.
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Sadly I think the fatty little admin is tight on time, so rules out new XJ. :(
Something will have to give, but will it be his choice of car or the chassis of the rusty bullet ;D
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(New) XJ was an option, and the diesels are dropping like stones in value. But still out of sensible budget.
Sadly, petrol is not an option due to 140m daily commute... ...and we all know I'm not disciplined enough to stick to 56mph.
2.7d Jags are a bit cheaper, but the 3.0d is so much more powerful and economical, being a refinement of the 2.7. Trouble is, I think the engine is French, enough to send a shudder down the spine.
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(New) XJ was an option, and the diesels are dropping like stones in value. But still out of sensible budget.
Sadly, petrol is not an option due to 140m daily commute... ...and we all know I'm not disciplined enough to stick to 56mph.
2.7d Jags are a bit cheaper, but the 3.0d is so much more powerful and economical, being a refinement of the 2.7. Trouble is, I think the engine is French, enough to send a shudder down the spine.
Could it be LPG'd ?? don't know how big the boot is......
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It is a PSA engine :'(
Brothers '62 335d swallows a similar commute with ease, New Forest to Bracknell. Returns decent mpg too. And before you say seat comfort, he is the same height as me, but a couple of stone heavier...
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(New) XJ was an option, and the diesels are dropping like stones in value. But still out of sensible budget.
Sadly, petrol is not an option due to 140m daily commute... ...and we all know I'm not disciplined enough to stick to 56mph.
2.7d Jags are a bit cheaper, but the 3.0d is so much more powerful and economical, being a refinement of the 2.7. Trouble is, I think the engine is French, enough to send a shudder down the spine.
Could it be LPG'd ?? don't know how big the boot is......
Physically LPG'ing it not a problem, it's supply of the fuel itself appears an issue around Brackley area now. :(
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Take a £??? pay cut and work nearer :-\
Although I suspect this would be pension permitting :-\
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Incidentally, European 300C is built in Austria ;)
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140m commute is a bugger, before I got my London flat I did do 150m commute to Sky. Core reason why I LPG'd the 2.2, paid itself back within a year. But there was plenty of LPG about.
But I was doing shift work, so quite often driving out of rush-hour, it was a bugger when I did have to drive at peak times.
Given serious investment required, perhaps a job search would be the cheaper option. :-\
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Is the old XJ really out as an option, it's still all-alloy, and very capable, it just looks like every XJ over the last 50 years, that's where Jag made their cockup, quite possibly more modern than any other car in its class at the time, but looked like a leftover from the BL days.
I know what you mean the X351 was a quantum leap in styling from the X350, and given the choice I'd go the newer car, but as you say they're still out of budget. And if you don't get on with the XF, then not sure what else there is? Import a Commodore?
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Incidentally, European 300C is built in Austria ;)
To American standards with an Italian owner. Which is not a combination that inspires confidence.
Check out the Lancia badged version :o
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Incidentally, European 300C is built in Austria ;)
To American standards with an Italian owner. Which is not a combination that inspires confidence.
Check out the Lancia badged version :o
Having seen how the Austrians have built our €250,000 lifts at work, I wouldn't buy one either...
That said, a chap at work has an '07 estate and loves it. Goes well too 8)
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.... to 140m daily commute... ......
how far?!?! :o :o And I hate my 45 mile all round commute
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.... to 140m daily commute... ......
how far?!?! :o :o And I hate my 45 mile all round commute
Read it as 70 miles each way :-\
Could argue constructive dismissal if pressured/coerced into such a commute :-\
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(New) XJ was an option, and the diesels are dropping like stones in value. But still out of sensible budget.
Sadly, petrol is not an option due to 140m daily commute... ...and we all know I'm not disciplined enough to stick to 56mph.
2.7d Jags are a bit cheaper, but the 3.0d is so much more powerful and economical, being a refinement of the 2.7. Trouble is, I think the engine is French, enough to send a shudder down the spine.
The 3.0 V6 HDi is regarded as a very good and reliable engine in the PSA community, the 2.7 less so
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(New) XJ was an option, and the diesels are dropping like stones in value. But still out of sensible budget.
Sadly, petrol is not an option due to 140m daily commute... ...and we all know I'm not disciplined enough to stick to 56mph.
2.7d Jags are a bit cheaper, but the 3.0d is so much more powerful and economical, being a refinement of the 2.7. Trouble is, I think the engine is French, enough to send a shudder down the spine.
The 3.0 V6 HDi is regarded as a very good and reliable engine in the PSA community, the 2.7 less so
Yep,by the time the 3.0 appeared most of the bugs affecting the 2.7 had been dealt with,I've driven the 2,7 in an S type and it goes plenty well enough for most needs (140 +),I'm not keen on the S types though and much prefer the Alloy XJ :y
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Well maintained Evo V111 ?
Have you ever driven one? It's a car for masochistic 23 year olds.
.....who can't work out which way their baseball cap should be facing. :D ;D
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It is a PSA engine :'(
Brothers '62 335d swallows a similar commute with ease, New Forest to Bracknell. Returns decent mpg too. And before you say seat comfort, he is the same height as me, but a couple of stone heavier...
Not driven a BMW 335 derv but I have driven the petrol version.
3 litre twin turbo with maximum torque developed at about 1300 RPM. Nice nippy little car but one that doesn't feel much different to an entry level 3 series.
Pretty ordinary really.
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(New) XJ was an option, and the diesels are dropping like stones in value. But still out of sensible budget.
Sadly, petrol is not an option due to 140m daily commute... ...and we all know I'm not disciplined enough to stick to 56mph.
2.7d Jags are a bit cheaper, but the 3.0d is so much more powerful and economical, being a refinement of the 2.7. Trouble is, I think the engine is French, enough to send a shudder down the spine.
The 3.0 V6 HDi is regarded as a very good and reliable engine in the PSA community, the 2.7 less so
Yep,by the time the 3.0 appeared most of the bugs affecting the 2.7 had been dealt with,I've driven the 2,7 in an S type and it goes plenty well enough for most needs (140 +),I'm not keen on the S types though and much prefer the Alloy XJ :y
And the 2.7 is more than capable of getting my neighbours old S-type very sideways when required. Apparently. As I would obviously not have abused his car in such a way. ::)
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Brothers '62 335d swallows a similar commute with ease, New Forest to Bracknell. Returns decent mpg too. And before you say seat comfort, he is the same height as me, but a couple of stone heavier...
A 335d does not meet the criteria set out in the original post.
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Tbh, if you don't want the Jags, you are a bit stuffed. As I understand it you don't want to go LPG again due to lack of supply, the cars that are RWD and Diesel and don't fall into your "not allowed" list is square route of sod all!
Tell me about it. If I go XJ, it would have to be the newer style else it will smell of wee, and then budget is blown. And the arse is pig ugly (sorry dbug ;D)
The X350/X358 in 3.0V6 were a pretty quick car comfortable car (around 240 bhp), around same petrol consuption as an Omega, but so so much more comfortable and driveable, or go for the blown 4.2 V8. Mine never smelled of wee ;)
The X351, in V8 guise, is an extremely quick car, but to get a good one you will need to put down £25K++, but they are holding their prices unlike the more common weasels - I've had mine 18+ months now and Jag have offered me more than I paid for it in p/ex against a newer one. I'll hang on to it - its not reached 40K miles yet!! Regarding the arse end, I never notice it when driving it, or when its parked in my drive, as I can only see the front, but it does grow on you. But the range of toys and the 1200w B&W sound system are something else. Save up for an XJ Jaime - even the lower spec ones are well appointed, although I have to say the Portfolio spec is excellent.
I think the XJ is a most handsome big saloon. The 'arse end' is unusual but lets call it character. :y
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
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Read it as 70 miles each way :-\
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So did I ;) ... hence me saying that I've a 45 mile all round/daily commute :y
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
I like this. :y
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
I shall have a little look further, not something I'd considered.
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Brothers '62 335d swallows a similar commute with ease, New Forest to Bracknell. Returns decent mpg too. And before you say seat comfort, he is the same height as me, but a couple of stone heavier...
A 335d does not meet the criteria set out in the original post.
Only price... Rest of it it does. In spades.
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
Its a lot of car for 11k,posh Datsun or not :y
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
Its a lot of car for 11k,posh Datsun or not :y
It is indeed ..... and it's not French ;D :y
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Brothers '62 335d swallows a similar commute with ease, New Forest to Bracknell. Returns decent mpg too. And before you say seat comfort, he is the same height as me, but a couple of stone heavier...
A 335d does not meet the criteria set out in the original post.
Only price... Rest of it it does. In spades.
Price (by some margin) and the stupid white and blue bits.
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Well what can you do... ::)
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Well what can you do... ::)
I did say in the original post that I have absolute no interest in cockmobiles certain brands so as to avoid suggestions that wouldn't be worthwhile ;)
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I've driven a FX of similar age and can tell you that the engine is quite spritely.
I do know that recently someone had a lot of issues with ab Infinity though... Frustrating electrical issues that stranded them repeatedly. I believe they (Infinity) have now replaced the car because they couldn't resolve the issues.
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
Its a lot of car for 11k,posh Datsun or not :y
Yes. Well made, too.
Infiniti are basically 'boulevard cruisers' made for lard-arsed yanks.
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
Its a lot of car for 11k,posh Datsun or not :y
Yes. Well made, too.
Infiniti are basically 'boulevard cruisers' made for lard-arsed yanks.
Hmmm, you're putting me off. Yanks don't do corners.
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
Its a lot of car for 11k,posh Datsun or not :y
Yes. Well made, too.
Infiniti are basically 'boulevard cruisers' made for lard-arsed yanks.
Hmmm, you're putting me off. Yanks don't do corners.
Least you know your covered for the other aspect though ::) ;D
Seriously though, you could alter the suspension, as you don't like standard Omega setup....
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
I shall have a little look further, not something I'd considered.
Nor has anyone else: I bet you struggle to find one to even look at.
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Diesel Range Rover ?
Cant understand people not liking the looks of an XJ. I think they are a georgous looking car, which is why the basic lines remained the same for around 40 years, yet still looked better than most of its competitors. Real style and class doesn't date.
We are all different though.
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A bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
I shall have a little look further, not something I'd considered.
Nor me, I forgot that they`re rear wheel drive, and being Japanese they should be reliable and the interiors are a lot better these daysA bit left of field
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-gt-premium-4dr-currie-fpa-201609107639369?logcode=p)
It's another Datsun ::) ::) ::) ;)
Yup... but TB has taken quite a lot of the choices out and not many make RWD anymore :y
Anyway there`s nowt wrong with Datsun`s.....you`ll find out when I visit Nigel Langs in a month or so ;)
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Diesel Range Rover ?
Cant understand people not liking the looks of an XJ. I think they are a gorgeous looking car, which is why the basic lines remained the same for around 40 years, yet still looked better than most of its competitors. Real style and class doesn't date.
We are all different though.
That 40 years is the problem; Jaguars were originally stylish, modern, fashionable and trend-setting designs. Then they just gave up, and blurred the previous design a bit more. The latest ones, XJs in particular are the result of going back to Jaguar's roots. The XE is a lovely thing too; sharp, aggressive, perfectly proportioned and without all the fussy features that infest the competition.
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Diesel Range Rover ?
Quite fancied one before my commute changed. Still not ruled it out, but even with a TDV8, £100 of fuel ain't going to last a week, so on the back burner for now.
Cant understand people not liking the looks of an XJ. I think they are a georgous looking car, which is why the basic lines remained the same for around 40 years, yet still looked better than most of its competitors. Real style and class doesn't date.
The previous model now looks very dated. Has for 15 or more years. That's not necessarily a bad thing, some like the retro look, but its not for me.
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That Datsun now ruled out. I couldn't live with staring at that dash all day. Additionally, as someone stated earlier, Infiniti brand is aimed at the American market, which I know from experience means parts get pricey in Blighty.
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Best get the welder out then... ::)
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Best get the welder out then... ::)
I keep coming back to that (although this is beyond me, but sure I could find someone who can weld better than me and wants some pocket money).
However, once welded up, including a couple of other chassis areas that need looking at, I still have a 18yr old, 231k car that has a seemingly impossible to locate oil leak, dust for rear wheel arches and odd doors ;D
But, its dirt cheap to own and run, capable, and fun.
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That Datsun now ruled out. I couldn't live with staring at that dash all day. Additionally, as someone stated earlier, Infiniti brand is aimed at the American market, which I know from experience means parts get pricey in Blighty.
9000 mile service intervals. :'(
Most cars these days are in the 16-20000 mile range.
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That Datsun now ruled out. I couldn't live with staring at that dash all day. Additionally, as someone stated earlier, Infiniti brand is aimed at the American market, which I know from experience means parts get pricey in Blighty.
9000 mile service intervals. :'(
Most cars these days are in the 16-20000 mile range.
If I get a soot blower, it'll get sub 5k oil changes.
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That Datsun now ruled out. I couldn't live with staring at that dash all day. Additionally, as someone stated earlier, Infiniti brand is aimed at the American market, which I know from experience means parts get pricey in Blighty.
9000 mile service intervals. :'(
Most cars these days are in the 16-20000 mile range.
My Datsun is also 9000 mile service interval which is fine, personally I wouldn`t want to leave it any longer than that.
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That Datsun now ruled out. I couldn't live with staring at that dash all day. Additionally, as someone stated earlier, Infiniti brand is aimed at the American market, which I know from experience means parts get pricey in Blighty.
I`m not keen either but I`m sure there will be other models and trims available or you could just carbon wrap with some shite from Hellfrauds ;D
No matter which market it`s aimed at it`s Japanese so prices will always be expensive, it was like that when I was riding bikes in the eighties and nothings changed.
Trouble is that you`re seriously limiting your choices with a non German four door RWD saloon ::)
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
I'll flog you my 3.2 for few grand :P :D :)
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
I'll flog you my 3.2 for few grand :P :D :)
If you slap on an LPG kit its probably worth a grand :y. It is (was) a tidy example, although mileage must be getting on now :'(
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
I'll flog you my 3.2 for few grand :P :D :)
If you slap on an LPG kit its probably worth a grand :y. It is (was) a tidy example, although mileage must be getting on now :'(
Only cause the LPG kit is worth a grand, the car itself is worth £1
Err 156k - I think :-\
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
I'll flog you my 3.2 for few grand :P :D :)
If you slap on an LPG kit its probably worth a grand :y. It is (was) a tidy example, although mileage must be getting on now :'(
Only cause the LPG kit is worth a grand, the car itself is worth £1
Err 156k - I think :-\
In my dreams. Want to buy an LPG kit :P
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There`s always this one ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p)
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
I'll flog you my 3.2 for few grand :P :D :)
If you slap on an LPG kit its probably worth a grand :y. It is (was) a tidy example, although mileage must be getting on now :'(
Only cause the LPG kit is worth a grand, the car itself is worth £1
Err 156k - I think :-\
In my dreams. Want to buy an LPG kit :P
No thanks, 3.2 will forever run on petrol. I must fix the vac leak on it though :(
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There`s always this one ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p)
Hummmm, no thanks ;D
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How about an s80 t6, if you can live with the small turning circle
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There`s always this one ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p)
Hummmm, no thanks ;D
It`s not for you...you have got yours :P
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How about an s80 t6, if you can live with the small turning circle
I considered a S80, even I found them bland and boring ;D
There`s always this one ;)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/infiniti/m/used-infiniti-m-3-0-td-v6-s-premium-4dr-birmingham-fpa-201609087555568?logcode=p)
Hummmm, no thanks ;D
It`s not for you...you have got yours :P
Mine was cheaper too :P
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At this rate, its gonna be another poxy Omega and be LPG'd.
I'll flog you my already LPG'd 2.5 for a grand :) :) :)
:)
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....you`ll find out when I visit Nigel Langs in a month or so ;)
Let me know when and I'll look at what shift I'm on :y
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....you`ll find out when I visit Nigel Langs in a month or so ;)
Let me know when and I'll look at what shift I'm on :y
Will do :y
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I think I've found something worthy, that meets most (but not all) of my criteria :)
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Do tell. :)
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Do tell. :)
Like my other cars, its Silver....
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Do tell. :)
Like my other cars, its Silver....
Knew you'd buy one of those...rubbish, they are.
Just getting in first. :)
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A low mileage older Elite :D
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*double checks driveway to confirm my 3.2 is still there.
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I replaced mine with a £111,000 Mercedes S class.
Its a pile of rubbish. Every time you use it something goes wrong, the heated, vented, massaging seats with 22 separate lumbar points give me back ache, that needs a proper massage and week away from the car to fix. The stereo is gutless rubbish, the steering wheel sits in front of the gauges. It only has two good points the 368 bhp and active cruise control (that's not a patch on the BM system I had before).
As Kevin wouldn't help me place an ad here the omega is going in the bin. A far better car than any trash merc build to fail...
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Clearly don't get a happy ending from the masseuse then... ;D
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Do tell. :)
Like my other cars, its Silver....
Umm, I remember it being 'Savile Grey Metallic' :D :D
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Do tell. :)
Like my other cars, its Silver....
Umm, I remember it being 'Savile Grey Metallic' :D :D
That's a giveaway ;D
Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
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Oh dear. Oh very dear dear. ;D
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Oh I do hope it's a Volvo :D
I'd like to say V8 S80, packed of tech and AWD. But knowing LPG is an issue for him now, can only mean a D5? :D
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TB has bought a Volvo? I find that hard to believe.
If so, He will need a tartan picnic rug and a nice pair of comfortable slippers to go with it.
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Having said that......the S80 with the 4.4 litre V8 would make a good sleeper.
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I suspect it's all a ploy, no RWD Volvo's and I hear he does not like the S80 :)
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I suspect it's all a ploy, no RWD Volvo's and I hear he does not like the S80 :)
Lorry fuel or proper fuel?....What is your guess?
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Lorry.
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I suspect it's all a ploy, no RWD Volvo's and I hear he does not like the S80 :)
Perhaps its and old 240DL, their RWD....but then, perhaps that's the compromise, he did say in another thread he considered a Mondeo....and they are FWD :-\
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I suspect it's all a ploy, no RWD Volvo's and I hear he does not like the S80 :)
Perhaps its and old 240DL, their RWD....but then, perhaps that's the compromise, he did say in another thread he considered a Mondeo....and they are shit :-\
You're not wrong :D
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As Kevin wouldn't help me place an ad here the omega is going in the bin. A far better car than any trash merc build to fail...
Ah! I've only just made the connection from your posts on the Merc forum :y
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Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
Its true, I did sit in a Volvo with a view to buying it. But I didn't even take it for a test drive. The seats were far too uncomfortable, and it just didn't feel a nice place to be for my commute.
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Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
Its true, I did sit in a Volvo with a view to buying it. But I didn't even take it for a test drive. The seats were far too uncomfortable, and it just didn't feel a nice place to be for my commute.
Hang your head in shame. :)
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Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
Its true, I did sit in a Volvo with a view to buying it. But I didn't even take it for a test drive. The seats were far too uncomfortable, and it just didn't feel a nice place to be for my commute.
Hang your head in shame. :)
It was that tunnie fella, he lead me astray, by suggesting that a Volvo was a lovely car.
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Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
Its true, I did sit in a Volvo with a view to buying it. But I didn't even take it for a test drive. The seats were far too uncomfortable, and it just didn't feel a nice place to be for my commute.
Hang your head in shame. :)
It was that tunnie fella, he lead me astray, by suggesting that a Volvo was a lovely car.
I thought you knew him better than that... ::)
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In defence of Volvo,I find my phase 1 V70 easily as comfortable,just as quiet and just as capable a cruiser as my Elite,in fact the Elite will be going early next year at the latest and it'll be the Volvo that's staying for a while!
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Surprised you did not like the seats, not sat in S80 but have in V70. Seats were super comfy!
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Same seats ::)
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Surprised you did not like the seats, not sat in S80 but have in V70. Seats were super comfy!
Within a few minutes,, I was getting discomfort.
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Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
Its true, I did sit in a Volvo with a view to buying it. But I didn't even take it for a test drive. The seats were far too uncomfortable, and it just didn't feel a nice place to be for my commute.
So, you're weldding those arches then?
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Quick google shows its a Volvo :D
Its true, I did sit in a Volvo with a view to buying it. But I didn't even take it for a test drive. The seats were far too uncomfortable, and it just didn't feel a nice place to be for my commute.
So, you're weldding those arches then?
Nope....
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When my Desmond finally gives up the ghost i,m leaning toward a Saab 95 auto, Any thoughts?
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When my Desmond finally gives up the ghost i,m leaning toward a Saab 95 auto, Any thoughts?
Wouldn't be my choice. FWD auto is too compromised.
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Could you elaborate TB please ???
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When my Desmond finally gives up the ghost i,m leaning toward a Saab 95 auto, Any thoughts?
They are good cars :y, if u can live without rwd they are a definite Omega replacement.
Aloso my brother has one (Auto(!) with 292whp :D
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Could you elaborate TB please ???
TB drives hard.
Unless you drive it like you stole it it'll make no difference :y
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Not missed RWD myself, how can you realistically use it in a packed commute? Too much traffic around really, so far i've prefered the CCs handling to the Elite. Far less roll into the corners, when just doing normal speeds around a motorway slip for example.
RWD choice is limited these days, many more options if you accept FWD.
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Advantages of RWD:
1) You can kick the arse out and go a bit sideways.
2) That's it.
Disadvantages of RWD:
1) If you're not careful, you'll kick the arse out and go sideways into a hedge, another car, a roundabout, over a cliff, etc.
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Not missed RWD myself, how can you realistically use it in a packed commute? Too much traffic around really, so far i've prefered the CCs handling to the Elite. Far less roll into the corners, when just doing normal speeds around a motorway slip for example.
RWD choice is limited these days, many more options if you accept FWD.
For me, the requirement for RWD is predominantly for comfort. To have any kind of useable power in a FWD car by necessity means removing the suspension.
Unfortunately, due to my over enthusiastic attitude at work in my younger days, and then due to a typical VW driver (in a poxy Passat), I have 2 separate injuries to my back that makes it problematic to drive long distances in overly stiff cars.
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Not missed RWD myself, how can you realistically use it in a packed commute? Too much traffic around really, so far i've prefered the CCs handling to the Elite. Far less roll into the corners, when just doing normal speeds around a motorway slip for example.
RWD choice is limited these days, many more options if you accept FWD.
For me, the requirement for RWD is predominantly for comfort. To have any kind of useable power in a FWD car by necessity means removing the suspension.
Unfortunately, due to my over enthusiastic attitude at work in my younger days, and then due to a typical VW driver (in a poxy Passat), I have 2 separate injuries to my back that makes it problematic to drive long distances in overly stiff cars.
Then i could really recommend a Citroen C5 for you, preferably a C5 III (better seats, looks better etc.) also it was availible with a petrol V6 8) (if you can find one).
They are probably one of the most comfortable modern-ish cars that you can get, that does not cost an arm and a leg.
Nowadays it is common that the only option if you want something comfortable is a mumbus or one of those pesky crossover/suv blobs.. :-\
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C5, certainly the 2 hire ones I've had (a 1.8 I think, and a v6 of some description - both returned similar economy of 20mpg) at just too soft in the corners for me. And the v6 variant was a bit too lary for the chassis - you can get it well rolled over, then it just understeers like a bastid, finishing off with lift off oversteer.
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Not missed RWD myself, how can you realistically use it in a packed commute? Too much traffic around really, so far i've prefered the CCs handling to the Elite. Far less roll into the corners, when just doing normal speeds around a motorway slip for example.
RWD choice is limited these days, many more options if you accept FWD.
For me, the requirement for RWD is predominantly for comfort. To have any kind of useable power in a FWD car by necessity means removing the suspension.
Unfortunately, due to my over enthusiastic attitude at work in my younger days, and then due to a typical VW driver (in a poxy Passat), I have 2 separate injuries to my back that makes it problematic to drive long distances in overly stiff cars.
The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me. Big test is week after next, 600 mile return trip up Norf.
It surely has to be a Jag XF for you, plenty of XF-R bits available to make it more you. :)
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The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me.
Not that I'd get a VW anyway, but the Passats I've driven have caused discomfort, far too much discomfort to even entertain the idea.
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The newr ones (2008-on) handle better due to a better chassis with double wishbone up front and multilink rear. And all of them with hydractive has the sport mode for the suspension. Whitch that V6 you owned also had. Engaging the sport mode stiffens it up a bit.
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The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me.
Not that I'd get a VW anyway, but the Passats I've driven have caused discomfort, far too much discomfort to even entertain the idea.
Try one with GT spec Leather :y
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The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me.
Not that I'd get a VW anyway, but the Passats I've driven have caused discomfort, far too much discomfort to even entertain the idea.
Try one with GT spec Leather :y
I think even if I put my armchair in, it wouldn't overcome the harshness of the chassis.
I'd always prefer decent cloth, like vulgarlure :)
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I find Frog cars a bit quirky to be honest and have also vowed never to have a Renault after a traumatic car hire experience >:(
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I find Frog cars a bit quirky to be honest and have also vowed never to have a Renault after a traumatic car hire experience >:(
I grew up with big Citroens, as Dad liked them, so their weirdness was all normal to me. Also taught me a lot about electrics, as being French, the little electric pixies were always on strike ;D
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I suspect I will have little say in my next car... but it might be new ::)
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Plenty out there, just on your ban list:
Merc E350 CDI/CLS. (Driven these, CLS was very smooth)
Merc S320 CDI
BMW 535d
BMW 730d
Audi A8 4.0 TD
Porker Turbo (911's)
Jag XF's 3.0d
Jag XJ 2.7d
But all on your banned lised :D
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Plenty out there, just on your ban list:
Merc E350 CDI/CLS. (Driven these, CLS was very smooth)
Merc S320 CDI
BMW 535d
BMW 730d
Audi A8 4.0 TD
Porker Turbo (911's)
Jag XF's 3.0d
Jag XJ 2.7d
But all on your banned lised :D
Should be on everyone's banned list ... only things should burn fuel oil are boats and trucks ....dirty, smelly, polluting POS .... :(
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You can't paint diesel with a brush like that, try driving a recent shape Jag XJ V6 Diesel.
Very happy with my Derv :y
Over 600 on current tank of juice, range says over 100 left, suits my driving style of low down torque. Mid range it's not bad, no slouch. Motorway at 70 in 6th just 1,200 rpm. So great cruiser :)
Father Ts XF diesel is very nice too.
What is a POS, is the 3.2 engine. :P
It's not that fast, it's terrible on fuel, DBW V6 idle is rubbish. 3.0 V6 was always far better engine, least that was economical given its power. 3.2 is so much worse, but for what? No gains.
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You can't paint diesel with a brush like that, try driving a recent shape Jag XJ V6 Diesel.
Very happy with my Derv :y
Over 600 on current tank of juice, range says over 100 left, suits my driving style of low down torque. Mid range it's not bad, no slouch. Motorway at 70 in 6th just 1,200 rpm. So great cruiser :)
Father Ts XF diesel is very nice too.
What is a POS, is the 3.2 engine. :P
It's not that fast, it's terrible on fuel, DBW V6 idle is rubbish. 3.0 V6 was always far better engine, least that was economical given its power. 3.2 is so much worse, but for what? No gains.
Oh I can ..
Dirty - requires a bloody great DPF to trap the contamination .. which then burns itself clean so releasing all the contamination on to the poor unsuspecting public, and only if you drive it in a very certain way, otherwise it doesn't work and the system fails .. at great expense
Smelly - No explanation needed .. fuel oil stinks
Polluting - not withstanding the DPF matter .. the NOx levels are so high that the modern engine has to have piss added to it to make it legal ....and if you run out of piss it won't start !!
and even then VW had to lie, lie, and lie again to pass the emissions tests .. so millions of vehicles just like yours are pumping out pollution ...had your recall yet ?? :)
and you say fuel oil is good ????
:)
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It's a bit unfair to compare the Omega with anything other than what was available at the same time as the Omega....
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Following an earlier conversation...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026419040?model=STS&postcode=rh37ef&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&make=CADILLAC&sort=sponsored&page=1
Job jobbed 8)
Next...
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You can't paint diesel with a brush like that, try driving a recent shape Jag XJ V6 Diesel.
Very happy with my Derv :y
Over 600 on current tank of juice, range says over 100 left, suits my driving style of low down torque. Mid range it's not bad, no slouch. Motorway at 70 in 6th just 1,200 rpm. So great cruiser :)
Father Ts XF diesel is very nice too.
What is a POS, is the 3.2 engine. :P
It's not that fast, it's terrible on fuel, DBW V6 idle is rubbish. 3.0 V6 was always far better engine, least that was economical given its power. 3.2 is so much worse, but for what? No gains.
Oh I can ..
Dirty - requires a bloody great DPF to trap the contamination .. which then burns itself clean so releasing all the contamination on to the poor unsuspecting public, and only if you drive it in a very certain way, otherwise it doesn't work and the system fails .. at great expense
Smelly - No explanation needed .. fuel oil stinks
Polluting - not withstanding the DPF matter .. the NOx levels are so high that the modern engine has to have piss added to it to make it legal ....and if you run out of piss it won't start !!
and even then VW had to lie, lie, and lie again to pass the emissions tests .. so millions of vehicles just like yours are pumping out pollution ...had your recall yet ?? :)
and you say fuel oil is good ????
:)
So you don't like diesel then Nige ::) ;D ;D ;D :P
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It's a bit unfair to compare the Omega with anything other than what was available at the same time as the Omega....
^^^^ This^^^^
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You can't paint diesel with a brush like that, try driving a recent shape Jag XJ V6 Diesel.
Very happy with my Derv :y
Over 600 on current tank of juice, range says over 100 left, suits my driving style of low down torque. Mid range it's not bad, no slouch. Motorway at 70 in 6th just 1,200 rpm. So great cruiser :)
Father Ts XF diesel is very nice too.
What is a POS, is the 3.2 engine. :P
It's not that fast, it's terrible on fuel, DBW V6 idle is rubbish. 3.0 V6 was always far better engine, least that was economical given its power. 3.2 is so much worse, but for what? No gains.
Oh I can ..
Dirty - requires a bloody great DPF to trap the contamination .. which then burns itself clean so releasing all the contamination on to the poor unsuspecting public, and only if you drive it in a very certain way, otherwise it doesn't work and the system fails .. at great expense
Smelly - No explanation needed .. fuel oil stinks
Polluting - not withstanding the DPF matter .. the NOx levels are so high that the modern engine has to have piss added to it to make it legal ....and if you run out of piss it won't start !!
and even then VW had to lie, lie, and lie again to pass the emissions tests .. so millions of vehicles just like yours are pumping out pollution ...had your recall yet ?? :)
and you say fuel oil is good ????
:)
It's good for the larger range and great low down torque.
I'm personally not too fussed with what comes out tail pipe, if it's 100 or 500 nanobobbins.
The smell? Well you get a different Oder when filling up that's for sure, but it's around a minute or two of another smell. I find petrol stinks as well, so much of the same?
I've been in some 6pot diesels that really, really shift and you can hardly tell. Friend has 335d, it's a rocket!! So personally, yes I think it's good.
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Should also add that normal (non turbo) large petrol at the moment is bowing out, simply looking at Autotrader look at BMW/Merc/Audi/Ford/Vauxhall etc, vast majority are diesel.
Is the huge proportion market/population wrong? :-\
So far I've done over 1,000 miles in my diesel and I have to say I like it very much. FatherT has a XF diesel and MotherT has E Class Estate also diesel, all very happy with them.
Now that I have a wife and daughter to support a £500/yr VED bill for a petrol car, then consider LPG on top is not doable, but a 2.0 diesel with £30/yr VED and averaging 55mpg on my way to work does!
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It's a bit unfair to compare the Omega with anything other than what was available at the same time as the Omega....
^^^^ This^^^^
Below is a list of cars that the Omega would have competed with in the market place:
Dynamically, the E39 5 series is better, albeit a smidge smaller.
The Audi A6 is basically shit, as is the near identical Superb.
Merc W210 dissovles faster than you can drive it and Merc cost cutting of the time makes GM look extravagant :D
The W211 is better, partly by virtue of being newer, and partly by being better made.
Jag S type a bit left field, but again prone to interesting build quality.
Lexus GS300. Fundamentally fine, but rather beige.
Toyota Camry. As above and wwd.
Honda Leg End. Ditto.
Renault Safrane. It's French and they sold 10 of them.
Peugeot 607. As above.
Ford Mundeo Ghia X. And you thought GM wood trim was crap... Not much going for it.
Sharamblaxy. Has more seats.
Espace. As above.
Peugeot 806/7, C8/Fiat thing... As above but worse.
Vectra C. Estate is a close contender, especially in Elite form, but wwd.
Volvo 850/S80/V70. wwd and more expensive, but good middle class alternative.
Saab 95. wwd and smaller.
Probably missed a few alternatives though...
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Should also add that normal (non turbo) large petrol at the moment is bowing out, simply looking at Autotrader look at BMW/Merc/Audi/Ford/Vauxhall etc, vast majority are diesel.
Is the huge proportion market/population wrong? :-\
So far I've done over 1,000 miles in my diesel and I have to say I like it very much. FatherT has a XF diesel and MotherT has E Class Estate also diesel, all very happy with them.
Now that I have a wife and daughter to support a £500/yr VED bill for a petrol car, then consider LPG on top is not doable, but a 2.0 diesel with £30/yr VED and averaging 55mpg on my way to work does!
The consumer buys what the industry tells it :-X
We need petrol powered minibuses at work due to the irreversible damage/unsuitability of modern diesels in an high idle/low mileage environment. No one makes or sells them except Chevrolet/Ford USA, ergo effectively you cannot buy them here. And given that it's a market of about 300 vehicles every five years, it simply won't happen.
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That covers the 90s-early 2000s vehicle choice rather well, actually! Makes me realise why they sold so many Omegas. :)
Also, the industry dictating is bob-on. At the same time there's the magic fairies who in-tun dictate to the Industry what emissions / safety / green targets they must meet. Which, in turn cock things up down the line.
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Personally I don`t like diesels, the low torque and turbo rush to 3k wears off after a while and the engines are devoid of character.
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I like my 530d and it flies when needs be, but I do admit that the lack of instant power can be irritating. :-\
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Following an earlier conversation...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026419040?model=STS&postcode=rh37ef&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&make=CADILLAC&sort=sponsored&page=1
Job jobbed 8)
Next...
Yank tanks are out.
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Following an earlier conversation...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026419040?model=STS&postcode=rh37ef&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&make=CADILLAC&sort=sponsored&page=1
Job jobbed 8)
Next...
Yank tanks are out.
I quite like that tbh, Looks could be better but there's something about it. Price wise too rich for me 2-3k mark would be more appealing. But then again maybe these hold their value pretty well...
Had a quick look could only find 2 for sale so that's an issue. You'll have a rare car that's for sure whetheror not that's a good thing or not.
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Merc E350 CDI/CLS. (Driven these, CLS was very smooth)
God awful drive in every way. Unbelievably ugly in CLS form
Merc S320 CDI
Another hopeless attempt by MB, resulting in another god awful drive. There is a perfectly good reason Merc were off the list. And they will stay off until such time they can design a car, rather than simply build one.
BMW 535d
BMW 730d
Both decent cars, with class leading engines, albeit suspect reliability with age. 7 series too big. But there is only 1 badge to have on a beemer, and they ain't available in diesel. Anything else isn't worth putting up with the image.
Audi A8 4.0 TD
Nope. VAG can't do lorry fuel cars. Plus you have to be a knob to own an Audi.
Porker Turbo (911's)
Impractical
Jag XF's 3.0d
Not ruled out at a later date, but the seats aren't great in the base Luxury model.
Jag XJ 2.7d
Nope. Never. Too slow.
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Following an earlier conversation...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026419040?model=STS&postcode=rh37ef&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&make=CADILLAC&sort=sponsored&page=1
Job jobbed 8)
Next...
Yank tanks are out.
I quite like that tbh, Looks could be better but there's something about it. Price wise too rich for me 2-3k mark would be more appealing. But then again maybe these hold their value pretty well...
Had a quick look could only find 2 for sale so that's an issue. You'll have a rare car that's for sure whetheror not that's a good thing or not.
Trouble is, I don't sell drugs ;D
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It would be a much shorter conversation if we had a list of what is "in" rather than the list of what is "out". :D ;D
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At least the steering wheel is on the correct side. ;)
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TB.....as mentioned earlier perhaps you should consider an Infiniti.....specifically a G37.
Good points.
RWD.
Good seats.
3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
All the toys and then some.
Reliaible.
G37S is even better.
Rare.
£12000(ish) for a 2012/13 model. :y
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....Shami would be moist with delight. :)
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You should well know he is far too fussy on his RWD choice, nothing in the market can match car two decades old with non matching doors. ;D
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TB.....as mentioned earlier perhaps you should consider an Infiniti.....specifically a G37.
Good points.
RWD.
Good seats.
3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
All the toys and then some.
Reliaible.
G37S is even better.
Rare.
£12000(ish) for a 2012/13 model. :y
It ticks all the boxes, although maybe difficult to find exactly what you want it has the advantage of not seeing one on every street corner like Audi and BMW :y
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TB.....as mentioned earlier perhaps you should consider an Infiniti.....specifically a G37.
Good points.
RWD.
Good seats.
3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
All the toys and then some.
Reliaible.
G37S is even better.
Rare.
£12000(ish) for a 2012/13 model. :y
It ticks all the boxes, although maybe difficult to find exactly what you want it has the advantage of not seeing one on every street corner like Audi and BMW :y
Yep...they are pretty rare.
I came very close to buying one. :y
Lovely leather. Seven speed auto. I believe that some of them are 4 WS. The 'S' version I nearly bought came with classy aluminium paddles.
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
...rejected for being just about anything in fact. ;D
He'll probably end up with a Passat. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) I think the Passat is a very stylish car. Although obviously when running on fuel that hasn't come out of a Scania. ;)
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
Steering wheel, I don't think he liked the steering wheel or dash :D
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
...rejected for being just about anything in fact. ;D
He'll probably end up with a Passat. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) I think the Passat is a very stylish car. Although obviously when running on fuel that hasn't come out of a Scania. ;)
Shhhhh. :P
Besides, no one has yet twigged why all the Sky install vans suddenly have less diesel. ::) ;D
Got 670odd miles to fuel warning light on my second tank, so very happy with that :)
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
...rejected for being just about anything in fact. ;D
He'll probably end up with a Passat. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) I think the Passat is a very stylish car. Although obviously when running on fuel that hasn't come out of a Scania. ;)
Shhhhh. :P
Besides, no one has yet twigged why all the Sky install vans suddenly have less diesel. ::) ;D
Got 670odd miles to fuel warning light on my second tank, so very happy with that :)
Well .....I managed a magnificent 23 point something MPG on a leisurely 1200 RPM 8th gear cruise. ;D ;D
About as good as it gets, I'm afraid. :-\ ;)
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Very nice, but when you do over 1,000 miles a month, plus have a house to run and a wife and a daughter it makes 23mpg not very acceptable.
That said that's damn good considering the power output, my crappy 3.2 can barely do 27mpg ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
...rejected for being just about anything in fact. ;D
He'll probably end up with a Passat. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) I think the Passat is a very stylish car. Although obviously when running on fuel that hasn't come out of a Scania. ;)
Shhhhh. :P
Besides, no one has yet twigged why all the Sky install vans suddenly have less diesel. ::) ;D
Got 670odd miles to fuel warning light on my second tank, so very happy with that :)
Well .....I managed a magnificent 23 point something MPG on a leisurely 1200 RPM 8th gear cruise. ;D ;D
About as good as it gets, I'm afraid. :-\ ;)
Is yours the 5.0? I thought they were better than that? I know the 4.2's (which have been in service since Pontius was a pilot) are pretty woeful on fuel.
It's the only reason I didn't buy an S-Type R a few years ago.
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It would be a much shorter conversation if we had a list of what is "in" rather than the list of what is "out". :D ;D
Of all the hundreds of marques available, I've only said half a dozen are definite no-nos :)
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And theres only half a dozen or so who still produce RWD cars. ::)
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I want to say it was already suggested and rejected on the grounds of being Japanese, or French, or dull, or uncomfortable, or.. something.
Steering wheel, I don't think he liked the steering wheel or dash :D
It was the dash. It really was a minger inside. The thought of looking at it for 3 - 4hrs a day was a bit grim. I needed something to cheer my dull commute up, not depress me further!
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
I'd rather you hang that ugly dorris in your avatar. I'm worried I'm going to break my screen with a cricket bat every time it pops up
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
I'd rather you hang that ugly dorris in your avatar. I'm worried I'm going to break my screen with a cricket bat every time it pops up
Well change it, then. You used to do stuff like that all the time. Gone all prim and proper have we? ;D
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Look at mine instead ;D
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That's one reason to look forward to a STEMO post! ;D
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That's one reason to look forward to a STEMO post! ;D
Little else ;D
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
I'd rather you hang that ugly dorris in your avatar. I'm worried I'm going to break my screen with a cricket bat every time it pops up
You protest too much. :)
I think you fancy the arse off sexy Shami. ;)
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Look at mine instead ;D
Just the right amount of 'womanly weight' to those.
Not too firm and not too saggy.
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
I'd rather you hang that ugly dorris in your avatar. I'm worried I'm going to break my screen with a cricket bat every time it pops up
You protest too much. :)
I think you fancy the arse off sexy Shami. ;)
I think Shami would get very soggy knickers if she found out about TB's views on 'uman rights! :o :D ;D
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
I'd rather you hang that ugly dorris in your avatar. I'm worried I'm going to break my screen with a cricket bat every time it pops up
You protest too much. :)
I think you fancy the arse off sexy Shami. ;)
I think Shami would get very soggy knickers if she found out about TB's views on 'uman rights! :o :D ;D
TB's views on human rights extends as far as an AK47 and a large hole to fall into. ;D
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Didn't end so well for Hitler, Stalin or Milosovich...
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Look at mine instead ;D
Post more. A Lot more
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3.7 V6 with 330 BHP.....sanme engine as used in the Datsun 370Z.
As appetising as that sounds, I'm afraid it will have to be lorry fuel, as electric is no good to anyone, and petrol isn't viable.
I'd rather hang myself. :)
I'd rather you hang that ugly dorris in your avatar. I'm worried I'm going to break my screen with a cricket bat every time it pops up
You protest too much. :)
I think you fancy the arse off sexy Shami. ;)
I think Shami would get very soggy knickers if she found out about TB's views on 'uman rights! :o :D ;D
TB's views on human rights extends as far as an AK47 and a large hole to fall into. ;D
Hmmm, a flaw in my manifesto, I'd not considered what to do with the bodies following the mass cull of UK population, to rid us of the lazy and the tree huggers. I'm guessing the Isle of Wright isn't gonna be big enough...
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Hmmm, a flaw in my manifesto, I'd not considered what to do with the bodies following the mass cull of UK population, to rid us of the lazy and the tree huggers. I'm guessing the Isle of Wight isn't gonna be big enough...
It is if you forget the mass cull of the UK, and move to the Isle of Wight. You can then get your shooting kicks by robustly defending your little empire.
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Look at mine instead ;D
Post more. A Lot more
Shami will be offended by your sexist attitude toward women. :)
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If i had to replace my Omega 2.6 anytime soon it would be replaced with another Omega . Plenty still around and in good order . Would possibly go back to the pf 3.0 . Prefer the pf interior mv style :P