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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Entwood on 29 October 2016, 14:52:12
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Short video of a prat trying to kill me ... if the truck behind me in the middle lane had not seen what was going on and braked hard to let me out this idiot WOULD have hit me. If I hadn't been aware of the truck behind me and overtaking me I might have just pulled out to avoid this prat and ended up under 44 tonne of wheels.
The prat then just smiled and undertook 3 vehicles. Oh for a blue light ... :(
https://youtu.be/OYsLSTWgWrM
(don't know how to embed video I'm afraid)
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Ouch, very close to being hit there.
The standard of driving these days especially motorway driving is absolutely horrendous
How some of these ''drivers'' ever got a licence is beyond me :o :o
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So much the norm now, sadly. No idea how to merge in. The other common merge problem is they slowly gather speed on slip road, then brake at the end of it, even if the inside lane is clear.
And the other annoying one, is slowing to 30 or 40mph on the main carriageway when exiting a motorway, then speeding back up on the slip.
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Another favourite is after they have had their picnic etc on the hard shoulder they simply indicate right and pull straight on to the motorway :o :o :o :o
Saw a car broken down on the hard shoulder last night, driver out of the car no problem, only problem was they were standing on the grass verge in front of their broken down car :o :o :o :o
Fore!!!!!!!
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I had this earlier on the M4....
Tho if I am approaching an on ramp, in lane1 and see vehicles approaching the motorway that are on the on ramp, I always try to move to lane2.
That wasn't possible this afternoon and I ended up braking in lane1 to let the idiot in......which imo is safer than trying to get into lane2 if there isn't a gap big enough and relying on a motorist to let you in.
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More annoying as he knew you were there as he appears to move away from you slightly but then still continues to barge out. :o He had committed to pulling out at that stage. ::)
For some strange reason this is the norm as drivers LEAVE the A40 London bound at Wheatley. They come off the slip road and fly straight out in front of you on to the A418. It's a 'Give Way' junction at the end for heavens sake, not a right to fly straight out on to an 'A' road. I would post an example from my dash cam but don't know how to mute my language. ::)
Note to self, turn the mic off. :-[
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For some strange reason this is the norm as drivers LEAVE the A40 London bound at Wheatley. They come off the slip road and fly straight out in front of you on to the A418. It's a 'Give Way' junction at the end for heavens sake, not a right to fly straight out on to an 'A' road. I would post an example from my dash cam but don't know how to mute my language. ::)
Note to self, turn the mic off. :-[
I normally have the opposite problem when I leave the M40 there, heading towards Wheatley... ...no buggers WILL pull out onto that roundabout, even if there isn't an approaching car for a mile :o
(although I agree visibility for those leaving the M40 at that roundabout is borderline dangerously bad)
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Very poor driving, after entering the motorway they then went on to undertake in the slow lane. :-\
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Cant wait to get back to Spain. Standard of driving is no better but much much less traffic.
I would love to see the accident stats per 1000 vehicles for different countries
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What people seem to forget, a slip road is a junction, the broken white lines mean give-way..
Every day occurrence, and occupational hazard for me,
I had one incident, all on camera, car came down slip Rd, came in front of me, brakes, I hit said car, car buggers off, phoned police, company phoned police, you can guess what they said, nobody's been hurt, :(. Now put that incident round the other way.! I wonder what might have happened.
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Having recently driven to Scotland towing a 30' trailer, I'm only too familiar with this. They get to the end of the slip road, having paid no attention to the traffic they are required to give way to, and made no attempt to match their speed to it, and expect it to part to let them in. >:(
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Cant wait to get back to Spain. Standard of driving is no better but much much less traffic.
I would love to see the accident stats per 1000 vehicles for different countries
The standard of driving in this country, particularly on motorways is terrible and getting worse. The main problem is self righeousness, " everyone else is wrong", and a "why should I" attitude, plus it tends to be competitive. Not good.
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do what ido i close my eyes put my foot down and pray to the devil or i slow down and let them out then put the fear or god in to them
i think iys called tailgateing some just wont learn how to do it properly
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Cant wait to get back to Spain. Standard of driving is no better but much much less traffic.
I would love to see the accident stats per 1000 vehicles for different countries
I can only find stats for traffic-related deaths per 100,000 vehicles. Spain is 5.3 and UK is 5.1 (2013 figures)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate)
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do what ido i close my eyes put my foot down and pray to the devil or i slow down and let them out then put the fear or god in to them
i think iys called tailgateing some just wont learn how to do it properly
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do what ido i close my eyes put my foot down and pray to the devil or i slow down and let them out then put the fear or god in to them
i think iys called tailgateing some just wont learn how to do it properly
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I believe the expression is 'Nothing left to lose'...
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I am speechless at that vid. SO glad you had opportunity to move over.
Could have had a similar thing the other day, as I was 'boxed in' on my right, but luckily had many, many yards of space (and no-one behind) to slow down and let him in, but another three of four seconds later, and a similar event as that may have happened.
Glad it didn't end in injury/damage :)
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The majority of the fault obviously lies with the driver of the other car; the manner of their driving led to a dangerous situation. However, a certain amount of responsibility I think lies with you. Once you were aware of the developing situation you could have adjusted your speed. You were aware there was a slip road, and that they maybe other cars attempting to join the motorway, and we all know that there are people out there whose driving falls below a satisfactory standard and think it is ok to drive like this.
I'd rather not have a collision, than be in the right with a damaged car and injuries. Think defensive driving. It would be nice if everybody followed the rules of the road, until then we have to drive for other people.
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The majority of the fault obviously lies with the driver of the other car; the manner of their driving led to a dangerous situation. However, a certain amount of responsibility I think lies with you. Once you were aware of the developing situation you could have adjusted your speed. You were aware there was a slip road, and that they maybe other cars attempting to join the motorway, and we all know that there are people out there whose driving falls below a satisfactory standard and think it is ok to drive like this.
I'd rather not have a collision, than be in the right with a damaged car and injuries. Think defensive driving. It would be nice if everybody followed the rules of the road, until then we have to drive for other people.
I had just joined at that slip road and this other car was BEHIND me on the slip road. An artic moved out into the middle lane to allow us in, with another artic coming up in the inside lane. I speed matched the one behind me and the overtaking one was by my rear right wheel.
If I brake I have an artic up my arse, if I swerve I have an artic in my right wing, if I accelerate I ram the vehicle in front.
I was taught, as a car driver, an HGV driver and a PSV driver, that you should never take an action that causes another vehicle to accelerate, brake or move on the road. I was also taught that mirrors are as important as looking forwards, so I KNEW what was behind me and to my right.
This idiot "undertook" me, forced his way on, and then undertook other vehicles. Luckily for me the artic driver in the middle lane reacted to the sound of my horn blowing and braked, allowing me to move. The 44 tonne artic behind might not have reacted had I braked, and there is no reason for him to expect me to brake.
I completely fail to see how "I have to take responsibility" for this incident, where a prat totally ignores "Give Way" road markings, or what I could have done SAFELY ...... note the last word... it's in capitals for your benefit.
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I had just joined at that slip road and this other car was BEHIND me on the slip road.
A detail missing from your original post ;) Myself (and several others who've already replied, I suspect) assumed you were already on the motorway and dipstick (him) was beside you on the slip road.. not that you were in front of him on the sliproad and dipstick (him, again) had failed to take his meds that morning.
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I had just joined at that slip road and this other car was BEHIND me on the slip road.
A detail missing from your original post ;) Myself (and several others who've already replied, I suspect) assumed you were already on the motorway and dipstick (him) was beside you on the slip road.. not that you were in front of him on the sliproad and dipstick (him, again) had failed to take his meds that morning.
Apologies, didn't think it needed saying as a) why would I be travelling slowly in the inside lane then accelerate and move out (once the artic in the middle lane had braked) when the road was clear b) I am clearly "established" in the lane when he undertakes me.
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Just looked at the posted vid again .. and the first 2 seconds do show me joining the motorway ... but I accept it would be easily missed
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I just assumed you were some old duffer crawling up the inside lane at 50 mph, forcing HGV's to overtake and the guy in the slip didn't see you because you were going so slowly! :P ;D ;)
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I just assumed you were some old duffer pikey crawling up the inside lane at 50 mph, forcing HGV's to overtake and the guy in the slip didn't see you because you were going so slowly! :P ;D ;)
FTFY ;)
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Here we go, sympathy for the first two pages...and then it starts ;D
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Apologies, didn't think it needed saying as a) why would I be travelling slowly in the inside lane then accelerate and move out (once the artic in the middle lane had braked) when the road was clear b) I am clearly "established" in the lane when he undertakes me.
A rear facing camera would help there as no doubt we'd have seen him behind you up the slip road and still behind (and to the left) of you once you'd joined the carriageway.
Must admit I missed the join at the beginning of the video. :y
Here we go, sympathy for the first two pages...and then it starts ;D
Only people as respected as Entwood get two pages of sympathy .. usually the merciless ribbing starts much sooner! ;D
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The majority of the fault obviously lies with the driver of the other car; the manner of their driving led to a dangerous situation. However, a certain amount of responsibility I think lies with you. Once you were aware of the developing situation you could have adjusted your speed. You were aware there was a slip road, and that they maybe other cars attempting to join the motorway, and we all know that there are people out there whose driving falls below a satisfactory standard and think it is ok to drive like this.
I'd rather not have a collision, than be in the right with a damaged car and injuries. Think defensive driving. It would be nice if everybody followed the rules of the road, until then we have to drive for other people.
I had just joined at that slip road and this other car was BEHIND me on the slip road. An artic moved out into the middle lane to allow us in, with another artic coming up in the inside lane. I speed matched the one behind me and the overtaking one was by my rear right wheel.
If I brake I have an artic up my arse, if I swerve I have an artic in my right wing, if I accelerate I ram the vehicle in front.
I was taught, as a car driver, an HGV driver and a PSV driver, that you should never take an action that causes another vehicle to accelerate, brake or move on the road. I was also taught that mirrors are as important as looking forwards, so I KNEW what was behind me and to my right.
This idiot "undertook" me, forced his way on, and then undertook other vehicles. Luckily for me the artic driver in the middle lane reacted to the sound of my horn blowing and braked, allowing me to move. The 44 tonne artic behind might not have reacted had I braked, and there is no reason for him to expect me to brake.
I completely fail to see how "I have to take responsibility" for this incident, where a prat totally ignores "Give Way" road markings, or what I could have done SAFELY ...... note the last word... it's in capitals for your benefit.
Ah yes, apologies. I missed that bit at the start where you had just joined. It is there only not for long! As Aaron said most people would look and think you were already on the motorway, as I did. If it was a situation where you already were on the motorway I would stand by what I said. However in this case the French piece of shit should be cubed with the driver still in it yippeeee :D
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I had just joined at that slip road and this other car was BEHIND me on the slip road........
As the driver of a German brand ::) I can immediately see the problem when I watch the video clip.
We find that the best approach is to launch yourself on to the slip road flat out to put as great a distance as possible between you and the vehicle behind. Whilst doing so we use our finely honed skills to spot a clear diagonal path straight to lane 3. When established in lane 3 we can settle down for a more relaxing journey. :y
If you re-watch the video you will see that a golden opportunity to do just this was missed at just 4 seconds in to the clip. :y
I'm not wrong am I, the diagonal gap is clearly there for the taking. ;)
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And being a straight line, you don't even need to indicate :D
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And being a straight line, you don't even need to indicate :D
Exactly. ;) :y
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The only caveat being that you exit lane two at at least 80...
For the carrot munching naysayers, you can't be hindering or rear ended by a vehicle from which you are pulling away :-X
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And being a straight line, you don't even need to indicate :D
What's indicate? :-\
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Highway Code Rule 259
Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway
check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane