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We don't seem to get any proper news anymore just the latest in Trump this ,Trump the other.
Anyone else fed up of it yet? :'(
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Pay close attention as it's a ruse to mask all sorts of deviance...
Germany wanting to buy Greece and Italy in exchange for reinstating the Deutschmark...
Brussels making it illegal to invoke Article 50...
And at the risk of setting Rods off, Russian annexation of Ukraine from the world...
OK only one of those is actually happening, but you get the idea :-X
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We don't seem to get any proper news anymore just the latest in Trump this ,Trump the other.
Anyone else fed up of it yet? :'(
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I believe another one of his aides has resigned , I somehow thought he may have that effect on those unfortunates, I find him entertaining totally bonkers but entertaining.😂😂
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I still find it hard to comprehend why Trump is so fond of Putin.
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
Trump could be brother to Ron Jeremy. :)
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OK only one of those is actually happening, but you get the idea :-X
But they all seem so plausible..
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
Maybe he's next in line for the polonium tea, then?
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
The leader of the free world. Gulp.😱
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
Trump could be brother to Ron Jeremy. :)
You may need to explain that to some here ;)
Mind you, so far nobody has asked, so maybe everyone knows who he is !
Is he still "going" ?
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
Trump could be brother to Ron Jeremy. :)
You may need to explain that to some here ;)
Mind you, so far nobody has asked, so maybe everyone knows who he is !
Is he still "going" ?
Nobody has asked because nobody cares. :)
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
Trump could be brother to Ron Jeremy. :)
You may need to explain that to some here ;)
Mind you, so far nobody has asked, so maybe everyone knows who he is !
Is he still "going" ?
Nobody has asked because nobody cares. :)
In his younger days I believe STMO was in a few 'art films' with Ron Jeremy.
Sadly, it's been years since he has been able to 'rise to the occasion' :)
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In his younger days I believe STMO was in a few 'art films' with Ron Jeremy.
Sadly, it's been years since he has been able to 'rise to the occasion' :)
Ahh, well, that explains the funny walk. ;)
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In his younger days I believe STMO was in a few 'art films' with Ron Jeremy.
Sadly, it's been years since he has been able to 'rise to the occasion' :)
Ahh, well, that explains the funny walk. ;)
Yes indeed. The old boy has done well. Demand for scouse porn stars is apparently quite limited. :)
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Get a big bucket of pop corn and enjoy the 'entertainment' as The Donald talks himself into a long stretch in a State Pen. ::) ::) ::) :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D If he's lucky his cellmate won't be big Winston but ex-Trump National Security Advisor, Moscow Micky Flynn. ::) ::) ::)
Who need enemies with friends like The Donald. In today's press conference he admitted that Moscow Micky talked about sanctions with the US Russian ambassador BEFORE he was appointed as a National Security Advisor. It has been a criminal offence, since the Logan Act of 1799, for a US PRIVATE citizen to officially discuss US foreign policy with a foreign Government official that the country is in dispute with. :D :D :D
The way things are shaping up for The Donald, he will make Tricky Dicky look like a saint in comparison. :-X :-X :-X
Like I previously said, when your countries Intelligence Community know all about your dirty washing, it has not been a smart move by The Donald to start a verbal war against them, as Tricky Dicky when he did the same found out to his cost. :o :o :o
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Who's Trump? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Kim Jong Ils other half brother...
Trump could be brother to Ron Jeremy. :)
And I thought M'lud's daily 'treats' were limited to his 19th century 'What the butler saw' arcade gems. ::) ::) ::) :P :P :P
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Just watched his rambling press conference on the news , bizarre is the only way to describe it.
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We don't seem to get any proper news anymore just the latest in Trump this ,Trump the other.
Anyone else fed up of it yet? :'(
I have to see that I see a headline "Trump" . . . . .something . . . .something . . . .whatever
and I rarely read any further. Whatever it is, it's unlikely to change anything
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Now we have the latest Tweet from this sickening joke of a President.
He reckons Obama tapped his phone lines. Really!!!
He lives in the USA with a very powerful CIA who tap into everyone's communications ;D ;D ;D
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But Hilary would probably have been even worse. The bigger picture in all of this is that the Liberal elite who have slowly taken over and almost ruined the western world in the last few decades, are on the run and hopefully going to be consigned to history.
Regardless of anyones individual like or dislike of recent events - Brexit, Trump, anti liberal elite / globalisation movements in France, Italy, Holland and elsewhere, are the reaction of those ignored and lied to by the likes of Blair, Cameron, Clinton, etc. and its having the effect of an earthquake.
We can only hope that when we come out the other side of it, that a lot of the wrongs of recent times will be righted and we can carry on in a sensible direction, with common sense restored.
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But Hilary would probably have been even worse. The bigger picture in all of this is that the Liberal elite who have slowly taken over and almost ruined the western world in the last few decades, are on the run and hopefully going to be consigned to history.
Regardless of anyones individual like or dislike of recent events - Brexit, Trump, anti liberal elite / globalisation movements in France, Italy, Holland and elsewhere, are the reaction of those ignored and lied to by the likes of Blair, Cameron, Clinton, etc. and its having the effect of an earthquake.
We can only hope that when we come out the other side of it, that a lot of the wrongs of recent times will be righted and we can carry on in a sensible direction, with common sense restored.
The trouble is the pendulum is swinging fast the other way towards the hard right. It will not stop in the middle and I see some echoes of the 1920/30s growing across Europe and the USA. Heaven help us! :o :o
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I seriously doubt the pendulum will swing too far for too long. It wont be allowed to happen. There was no internet to keep people informed in previous times,so its really unlikely that scenario could be repeated. It will hopefully settle back somewhere to the right of centre (by previous rather than current measurements) once the dust has settled.
Trump is no Hitler. Not by a long chalk. He isn't intelligent enough for one thing. He may be proved to be an idiot, time will tell. I don't mind as long as he is a useful idiot, in the cause of turning back the tide of left wing infestation and brainwashing of the west.
The main potential concern imo, is Russia. I'm not sure if they really are the threat the mainstream media want us to believe they are, or not. I think it seems difficult to tell.
We will no doubt find out after the EU has collapsed. I would guess 5- 10 years.
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This is very like the beginning of Nixon's first term, the only difference being this time he has both houses. (Nixon went on to a landslide second term, yes I do remember what happened next, just saying....) :-X
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I seriously doubt the pendulum will swing too far for too long. It wont be allowed to happen. There was no internet to keep people informed in previous times,so its really unlikely that scenario could be repeated. It will hopefully settle back somewhere to the right of centre (by previous rather than current measurements) once the dust has settled.
Trump is no Hitler. Not by a long chalk. He isn't intelligent enough for one thing. He may be proved to be an idiot, time will tell. I don't mind as long as he is a useful idiot, in the cause of turning back the tide of left wing infestation and brainwashing of the west.
The main potential concern imo, is Russia. I'm not sure if they really are the threat the mainstream media want us to believe they are, or not. I think it seems difficult to tell.
We will no doubt find out after the EU has collapsed. I would guess 5- 10 years.
Ah, do not be fooled. Hitler was actually not clever at all. He was a chancer, a gambler, and from 1941 he made so many stupid errors that his luck ran out and ultimately cost him the war. No, Hitler had a conviction and an uncanny way with people. He had eyes that"sucked" people in; a hypnotism that many witnesses commented on. Also, and very importantly, a great orator with a message the average German loved ; out with non-Germans, foreigners; building the strongest and most modern military; rebuilding German industry and creating a greater, stronger Germany. His message of reversing the evils of the Versailles Treaty of 1919 that was hoisted onto the poor German people by the foreigners and aided by the Jews and Communists, the enemies of the Third Reich, was underlying all this.
Trump is actually preaching a very similar message; just look at his ban on certain people of other races; his forceful message against the Mexicans; his attack on the free media, and his constant message of making "America great again" by way of building up the industry and military, with even dangerous words of threat against China. He has also already created the type of fear and distrust within the US that Hitler did within Nazis Germany, albeit without the rounding up of "undesirables". But if you follow his rhetoric through to a possible conclusion, he is on the way to that. The only hope is that the American people are not in the same position of the German people in the 1920/30s, and are used to a liberal, free society. This is what will bring down Trump.
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None of that stopped Geoff W Bush from doing two terms... ::)
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Donald does make the six o'clock news a bit more interesting, I'll give him that.
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He is good entertainment, have seen some very good impressions of him on the box , all say he is an easy guy to imitate. My opinion is he is totally bonkers. 😉
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Sorry, but Imo, to compare Trump with Hitler is beyond ludicrous.
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Sorry, but Imo, to compare Trump with Hitler is beyond ludicrous.
May be to date, and I hope you are right. :y
But many protesting Americans, and others, are already comparing Trump to Hitler and Nazism. Certain politicians in the US are also comparing Trump's action to ban a number of key news broadcasters, including the BBC, from news conferences as something akin to Hitler and the Nazis.
As I stated the American people will stop Trump, but there are all too many similarities between Trump and a fledgling totalitarianism.
Always remember that many in Germany considered Hitler a joke in the 1920s, and reckoned he could be controlled in 1933 when appointed Chancellor. No one was laughing later. Let's just keep an open mind that's all. ;)
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
My mind is very open to the dangers of this world and it's history. :y :y
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Technically speaking, if you can slide a fag paper into the gap, then it's a gap, and therefore open...
The establishment can bleat and whine and moan all day long, but it won't change the fact that President Trump was elected fair and square. Imho, he'll do just fine, and I will be surprised if he doesn't serve a second term.
I would be more concerned with North Korea winding up Asia than whether there should be a 15' wall along the Rio Grande ::)
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
My mind is very open to the dangers of this world and it's history. :y :y
Yes..mistakes are repeated....both in world history and even on car forums.
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
My mind is very open to the dangers of this world and it's history. :y :y
Yes..mistakes are repeated....both in world history and even on car forums.
Ok, got the message. Just expressing my point of view that's all, but obviously proving yet again that some minds are not open and quickly go on the attack if so challenged.
Think what you like :y
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
My mind is very open to the dangers of this world and it's history. :y :y
Yes..mistakes are repeated....both in world history and even on car forums.
Ok, got the message. Just expressing my point of view that's all, but obviously proving yet again that some minds are not open and quickly go on the attack if so challenged.
Think what you like :y
Do you see what you just did?
Ok...I get the message. But only stating my point of view. Oh, and by the way, if you don't agree with me you've got a closed mind and, if I tell you that, you get a bit pissed off. Fickin right I do.
You have a knack of making your point of view appear as fact, have a read back of your posts. We've been here before, wind your neck in.
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Oh...and there are people on here who actually think Trump is just what the doctor ordered, so be careful with the name calling.
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The people in America (and elsewhere) who are comparing Trump to Hitler and the Nazis, are the brainwashed, brain dead, incapable of rational original thought, liberal left, who genuinely believe that anyone who doesn't think like them are fascists and Nazis.
The western world has been infested with this thinking in recent time, thanks to schools, universities, and the broadcast and printed media.
The previously silent, sensible majority, have been awakened recently and have opted for just about anything which goes against the grain of this thinking.
The Liberal left are on the wane, and they cant begin to imagine how to handle the situation. They thought they owned and ran the world, and now it s beginning to unravel.
Poor dears are all in a tizz about it. Personally, I love it. Trump can do whatever he likes, as long as he gives the UK acra king trde deal and doesn't start a nuclear war. :)
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
My mind is very open to the dangers of this world and it's history. :y :y
Yes..mistakes are repeated....both in world history and even on car forums.
:y :y :y
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The people in America (and elsewhere) who are comparing Trump to Hitler and the Nazis, are the brainwashed, brain dead, incapable of rational original thought, liberal left, who genuinely believe that anyone who doesn't think like them are fascists and Nazis.
The western world has been infested with this thinking in recent time, thanks to schools, universities, and the broadcast and printed media.
The previously silent, sensible majority, have been awakened recently and have opted for just about anything which goes against the grain of this thinking.
The Liberal left are on the wane, and they cant begin to imagine how to handle the situation. They thought they owned and ran the world, and now it s beginning to unravel.
Poor dears are all in a tizz about it. Personally, I love it. Trump can do whatever he likes, as long as he gives the UK acra king trde deal and doesn't start a nuclear war. :)
I think it was Jimmy who posted a while ago. He said that the liberal do-gooders thought that if they shouted 'racist', 'nazi' and such like at folk, then they would run and hide. All they succeeded in doing was silencing people who were afraid to put their point of view forward for fear of being labelled in such a way.
Then polling day came round........
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Ermmmm....your mind doesn't seem to be particularly open. ::)
My mind is very open to the dangers of this world and it's history. :y :y
Yes..mistakes are repeated....both in world history and even on car forums.
Ok, got the message. Just expressing my point of view that's all, but obviously proving yet again that some minds are not open and quickly go on the attack if so challenged.
Think what you like :y
Do you see what you just did?
Ok...I get the message. But only stating my point of view. Oh, and by the way, if you don't agree with me you've got a closed mind and, if I tell you that, you get a bit pissed off. Fickin right I do.
You have a knack of making your point of view appear as fact, have a read back of your posts. We've been here before, wind your neck in.
My neck was never out, but yours has come straight out because I have posted something you don't like. You are right about one thing, some things are repeated on this Forum. Carry on as before. It does not matter. This IS only a car Forum which I have only rejoined to help me keep my Omega on the road. That is my only intention. Life is too short to have keyboard rows on here.
Bloody hell, get a life STEMO. ::)
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Oh...and there are people on here who actually think Trump is just what the doctor ordered, so be careful with the name calling.
Me for one :y
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Oh...and there are people on here who actually think Trump is just what the doctor ordered, so be careful with the name calling.
Me for one :y
He's signing his new travel ban order, that will get the lentil munchers hot under the collar. ;D
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Christ on a bike...
You're both losing your touch... it's taken two days to get to this position ;D
If I could have voted for Trump, I would have. I wouldn't be adverse to accepting an American passport and residency in exchange for a similar vote for a second term either... (if anyone in a position to effect such things is reading ;)...).
And had I been in Call me Dave( No balls) shoes I would have invoked Article 50 at 5 pm BST on the day the result was declared.
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Christ on a bike...
You're both losing your touch... it's taken two days to get to this position ;D
If I could have voted for Trump, I would have. I wouldn't be adverse to accepting an American passport and residency in exchange for a similar vote for a second term either... (if anyone in a position to effect such things is reading ;)...).
And had I been in Call me Dave( No balls) shoes I would have invoked Article 50 at 5 pm BST on the day the result was declared.
Bit of tongue biting on my part, but nowt like being told what to think to get the juices going. :y
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And had I been in Call me Dave( No balls) shoes I would have invoked Article 50 at 5 pm BST on the day the result was declared.
Why would you have waited so long as that? :-\ :)
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Be 6pm in Brussels...
... on a Friday evening ;)
The Commeuronists would never see it coming.
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Be 6pm in Brussels...
... on a Friday evening ;)
The Commeuronists would never see it coming.
You'd have missed the last post so the Commeuronists wouldn't have seen it until Tuesday at the earliest... ::) :P ;D
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Dave was well gone by 5pm..Think he chucked the towel in at 8am that morning....He was a real crap PM
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They would have known by Monday morning when we turned up for breakfast to deliver our demands ;)
Dave was well gone by 5pm..Think he chucked the towel in at 8am that morning....He was a real crap PM
They don't call him NoBallsDave for nothing ;)
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They would have known by Monday morning when we turned up for breakfast to deliver our demands ;)
You'd have sat round twiddling your thumbs until your A50 letter turned up in the post, as there's no negotiation until A50 is delivered remember? ::)
Bet you'd have sent it 2nd class as well! ;D
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They would have known by Monday morning when we turned up for breakfast to deliver our demands ;)
You'd have sat round twiddling your thumbs until your A50 letter turned up in the post, as there's no negotiation until A50 is delivered remember? ::)
Bet you'd have sent it 2nd class as well! ;D
"The formal withdrawal process is initiated by a notification from the Member Statewishing to withdraw to the European Council, declaring its intention to do so.The timing of this notification is entirely in the hand of the Member State concerned, and informal discussions could take place between it and other Member States and/or EU institutions prior to the notification."
I reckon a group text would suffice ;)
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Camoron probably did send the A50 letter on the morning of Friday 24th June, but as a very important missive he sent it by carrier pigeon. ::)
As he was somewhat upset and confused that morning he mistakingly took the bird from the 'Moscow Box' rather than the 'Brussels Box' and Putin had pigeon pie that evening for his tea! ;D
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Christ on a bike...
You're both losing your touch... it's taken two days to get to this position ;D
If I could have voted for Trump, I would have. I wouldn't be adverse to accepting an American passport and residency in exchange for a similar vote for a second term either... (if anyone in a position to effect such things is reading ;)...).
And had I been in Call me Dave( No balls) shoes I would have invoked Article 50 at 5 pm BST on the day the result was declared.
Bit of tongue biting on my part, but nowt like being told what to think to get the juices going. :y
STEMO I have NEVER told you what to think. I was expressing my point of view based on education, knowledge, and experience. I NEVER expect everyone, or even anyone to agree with me. But I will enter into a debate as this is still (just) a free country.
Sorry if you feel the way you do, but after being away from the Forum for some time I now recognise how some get so wound up about a bit of keyboard comment. Live and let live eh STEMO? :-* :-* :-* ;)
PS You once had a great witty sense of Liverpudian humour. Don't say this Forum has zapped it?!! :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;)
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Now we have the latest Tweet from this sickening joke of a President.
He reckons Obama tapped his phone lines. Really!!!
He lives in the USA with a very powerful CIA who tap into everyone's communications ;D ;D ;D
The US NSA and UK GCHQ both have strict rules on who and how their internal 'citizens of interest' can be spied on in detail, which require court orders. However, all normal SIGINT is considered to be in the 'public domain' for the purposes of who is calling who and the scanning for keywords of interest. SIGINT is the most powerful tool the 5-eyes Western intelligence system has to keep us safe from terrorists which includes the recently announced 13 terrorist attacks stopped in the UK since 2013. Obviously people of interest will include embassies and diplomats within the US and UK, but this applies to ALL countries in the world where ALL governments spy on ALL governments. Any mock outrage you hear from any government, like the Germans a few years ago, is just 'pots and kettles'. ;D ;D ;D
Authoritarian governments don't have the checks and balances that Western Governments do, whether different people agree or disagree with the line drawn by Western Governments is like all politics, matters of consensus, disagreements and opinions. ::) ::) ::)
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The reality is that Trump does have authoritarian tendencies, but I'm confident that the strength of US democracy will keep him in check. It is unfortunate that of the 320m people in the US they ended up with Trump and Clinton as candidates. It says much about their weak polarized two party political system. ???
Both are crooks, Clinton with her foundation and private email server and Trump with his US and Russian mafia connections and dodgy business dealings, which includes allegations of his Atlantic City casino being used as a money laundering operation. :o
Where there is no doubt that Putin interfered in the US election, like they now are in the French and German ones, Russia has a long record of political interference in Western politics, which have been mostly unsuccessful where they overplay their hand. The way the Russian state press went large over the Trump win on a new-era of US-Russian cooperation has suddenly gone all quiet, where I don't think Russia has got what it expected from a GOP where it is 'business as usual' and an out of his depth Trump who seems to be mainly fighting his own imaginary internal demons. :o
Trump taking on the intelligence community has overtones of Tricky Dicky doing the same and that didn't end well. ::)
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The reality is that Trump does have authoritarian tendencies, but I'm confident that the strength of US democracy will keep him in check. It is unfortunate that of the 320m people in the US they ended up with Trump and Clinton as candidates. It says much about their weak polarized two party political system. ???
Both are crooks, Clinton with her foundation and private email server and Trump with his US and Russian mafia connections and dodgy business dealings, which includes allegations of his Atlantic City casino being used as a money laundering operation. :o
Where there is no doubt that Putin interfered in the US election, like they now are in the French
and German ones, Russia has a long record of political interference in Western politics, which have been mostly unsuccessful where they overplay their hand. The way the Russian state press went large over the Trump win on a new-era of US-Russian cooperation has suddenly gone all quiet, where I don't think Russia has got what it expected from a GOP where it is 'business as usual' and an out of his depth Trump who seems to be mainly fighting his own imaginary internal demons. :o
Trump taking on the intelligence community has overtones of Tricky Dicky doing the same and that didn't end well. ::)
Absolutely right :y :y
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Now we have the latest Tweet from this sickening joke of a President.
He reckons Obama tapped his phone lines. Really!!!
He lives in the USA with a very powerful CIA who tap into everyone's communications ;D ;D ;D
The US NSA and UK GCHQ both have strict rules on who and how their internal 'citizens of interest' can be spied on in detail, which require court orders. However, all normal SIGINT is considered to be in the 'public domain' for the purposes of who is calling who and the scanning for keywords of interest. SIGINT is the most powerful tool the 5-eyes Western intelligence system has to keep us safe from terrorists which includes the recently announced 13 terrorist attacks stopped in the UK since 2013. Obviously people of interest will include embassies and diplomats within the US and UK, but this applies to ALL countries in the world where ALL governments spy on ALL governments. Any mock outrage you hear from any government, like the Germans a few years ago, is just 'pots and kettles'. ;D ;D ;D
Authoritarian governments don't have the checks and balances that Western Governments do, whether different people agree or disagree with the line drawn by Western Governments is like all politics, matters of consensus, disagreements and opinions. ::) ::) ::)
....and certain individuals in the CIA, MI5/MI6 will have their own corrupt agendas whilst seeking power for themselves or their bosses, but that is also worse in totalitarian regimes.
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Of the course the West, and USA in particular, would never dream of interfering in the elections of other Sovereign nations. ::) ;D
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Of the course the West, and USA in particular, would never dream of interfering in the elections of other Sovereign nations. ::) ;D
Absolutely, Obama didn't boost #Brexit by lecturing us on how the EU was best for the UK and how we would have been at the back of the queue for a US trade deal. By coincidence the #Brexit polls went up by 2% for Leave at the same time. ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Indeed. We have a lot to thank that moron for. ;D
Not that long ago, it was standard practice for the US (CIA) to do anything they could to swing elections in the direction they wanted, in central and south America.