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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TD on 19 February 2017, 16:52:25
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I want to restrict how far one of my UPVC top opening window opens....say to 4 or 5 inches
Its the downstairs bathroom window.
I have a shower in the morning and used to leave the top opener open all day for ventilation. But since getting broken into about 18 months ago (that's how they got in....through the bl**dy top opener!) I leave it in the 'vent' position, which only leaves it open by about 1/2 inch...which isn't enough to allow the bathroom to dry out....
Ive been having a look about, but cannot see anything suitable.....
Any ideas chaps.....
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Extractor fan? :)
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something like
http://www.diy.com/departments/yale-white-ventilation-window-lock/254586_BQ.prd
Ive seen similar to what they use in hotels too
edit : https://www.homesecureshop.co.uk/cable-window-restrictor-child-safety-lock-max6mum-security
or
https://www.homesecureshop.co.uk/safe-t-bar-upvc-door-window-chain-restrictor
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something like
http://www.diy.com/departments/yale-white-ventilation-window-lock/254586_BQ.prd
Ive seen similar to what they use in hotels too
edit : https://www.homesecureshop.co.uk/cable-window-restrictor-child-safety-lock-max6mum-security
or
https://www.homesecureshop.co.uk/safe-t-bar-upvc-door-window-chain-restrictor
Ive looked at all three of those...
1st one .... no good as it needs quite a large area of the frame to mount one side of it....which my window hasn't got
2nd .... I was concerned the cable length was too long ... I only wanted to open the window for or 5 inches
3rd ... Looked a bit flimsy to me......
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Extractor fan? :)
Thought of that.....flat roof....so impossible to run a cable for it... I reckon
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What length hinge is on the transom?
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What length hinge is on the transom?
Isnt the transom the horizontal bar between upper and lower window :-\
If so I don't understand the question :-\
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How long are the hinges?
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What length hinge is on the transom?
Isnt the transom the horizontal bar between upper and lower window :-\
If so I don't understand the question :-\
It is. So, I guess, Rob means the top of the frame.
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He means how long is the hinge... Presuming that the hinges are side and not top mounted ;)
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Restrictor stays.
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If you leave it open even an inch, someone who wants in will get in.
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Restrictor stays.
I could draw one, but now I know what they're called 8)
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What length hinge is on the transom?
Isnt the transom the horizontal bar between upper and lower window :-\
If so I don't understand the question :-\
Pedant :P ;D Transom is the bar, but the opening window/vent above is also known as a transom
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Restrictor stays.
If you mean "hinges". restrictor hinges are manufactured @ 10" or 250mm at their shortest. Hence my question.
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He means how long is the hinge... Presuming that the hinges are side and not top mounted ;)
If its the hinge on the vertical frame....its around 10" long.....dunno about length on the opening part as its cold and dark outside...so I'm not measuring that now.....
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What length hinge is on the transom?
Isnt the transom the horizontal bar between upper and lower window :-\
If so I don't understand the question :-\
Pedant :P ;D Transom is the bar, but the opening window/vent above is also known as a transom
Sorry I wasn't, I had to google transom.....and every pic I looked at said it was the middle bar.....
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Restrictor stays.
If you mean "hinges". restrictor hinges are manufactured @ 10" or 250mm at their shortest. Hence my question.
Sorry, should have read "aren`t".
Shortest restrictor hinge is 12"/300mm
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What length hinge is on the transom?
Isnt the transom the horizontal bar between upper and lower window :-\
If so I don't understand the question :-\
Pedant :P ;D Transom is the bar, but the opening window/vent above is also known as a transom
Sorry I wasn't, I had to google transom.....and every pic I looked at said it was the middle bar.....
Was only joking :y
10" hinges are not manufactured in "restrictor" form. (See my amended post). As previously suggested, if access is via a flat roof, even a window on the "night latch" can be forced. If you want airflow you can fit a "tricklevent" into the head of the frame or opener but my advise would be to keep the window shut when property unoccupied.
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Restrictor stays.
If you mean "hinges". restrictor hinges are manufactured @ 10" or 250mm at their shortest. Hence my question.
Over 20 years ago, I was told by the company technical manager doors have hinges, windows have stays. Trying to argue against established terminology is like pissing up a rope. Figuring out the correct name of obscure parts so as I could actually order them often took hours. It's been 15 years since I ran stores, but I'm sure short restrictor stays were available.
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What length hinge is on the transom?
Isnt the transom the horizontal bar between upper and lower window :-\
If so I don't understand the question :-\
Pedant :P ;D Transom is the bar, but the opening window/vent above is also known as a transom
Sorry I wasn't, I had to google transom.....and every pic I looked at said it was the middle bar.....
Was only joking :y
10" hinges are not manufactured in "restrictor" form. (See my amended post). As previously suggested, if access is via a flat roof, even a window on the "night latch" can be forced. If you want airflow you can fit a "tricklevent" into the head of the frame or opener but my advise would be to keep the window shut when property unoccupied.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTP7r0EBCaizcPvq113IpX6UhjK6qfhqyzr_DA0JyYKzoNvMEds0g)
I purposely avoided windows with, as you say, a 'tricklevent'. To me, what is the point of having a doubled glazed window when a slot has been cut through the frame and a flappy paddle installed, which you just open and close....hardly draft prove or adding to the double glazing point. My windows open about 1/2" then you can lock them in that position....the locking mechanism is all metal and I would like to think that even if you got a crow bar of them when in that position, you would just snap bit of plastic off without actually getting the window open. As I said in my OP, the 1/2" they open isn't enough for adequate ventilation, so a 'tricklevent' isn't going to cut it either.... :)
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My windows open about 1/2" then you can lock them in that position....the locking mechanism is all metal and I would like to think that even if you got a crow bar of them when in that position, you would just snap bit of plastic off without actually getting the window open.
Sorry to disillusion you but any PVCu window in the "night latch" position can be forced
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My windows open about 1/2" then you can lock them in that position....the locking mechanism is all metal and I would like to think that even if you got a crow bar of them when in that position, you would just snap bit of plastic off without actually getting the window open.
Sorry to disillusion you but any PVCu window in the "night latch" position can be forced
Yes, none of the mechanisms are particularly robust, and the self cutting screws that attach them aren't brilliant either.
But there's little point in making any of the window really secure when it's glazed with glass.
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Good point well made :D
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Iron bars on the inside of the window frame?
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I had to fit a fan in the bathroom of a house i owned. It was a flat roof, I notched the cable under the joists, then just filled over the cable with polyfilla. Worked well. It has to be supplied via a double pole switch. :y
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I had to fit a fan in the bathroom of a house i owned. It was a flat roof, I notched the cable under the joists, then just filled over the cable with polyfilla. Worked well. It has to be supplied via a double pole switch. :y
I assume you cut a channel in the plasterboard? along a joist or between joists?....as I was wondering if between joists how the pollyfilla would stay put :-\
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If the joists run along the ceiling towards the window, make two small holes and use a set of glass fibre cable rods to feed the cable through for an extractor fan.
You can buy a basic set of rods off fleabay for about £6.