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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 March 2017, 10:43:21
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A mere two years and then we can move into the 'transitional period' of Brexit. How long that will last is like asking "how long is a piece of string" Probably years or even decades.
.......and after that I'm sure there are still more hoops for us to jump through.
Poor old STMO is unlikely to be here when a conclusion is finally reached. :y
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Wrong section. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Wrong section. :-[ :-[ :-[
Ah yes of course, meant to be in "Jokes" ::)
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......all done and dusted.
Nope, its just the calm before the Storm, .....Life Jackets at the ready.
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A mere two years and then we can move into the 'transitional period' of Brexit. How long that will last is like asking "how long is a piece of string" Probably years or even decades.
.......and after that I'm sure there are still more hoops for us to jump through.
Poor old STMO is unlikely to be here when a conclusion is finally reached. :y
After brexit proper, possibly in two years time, we will still be using all of the EU regulatory bodies that we use now, i.e. agriculture, banking, the dreaded h&s...the works. All of the rules and regulations will remain the same until we rewrite the laws that are in place. Some estimates put this project at 15-20 years, so you could be right, Opti. I may not be around to see it.
But, on a pragmatic note, I don't think the process will affect people as much as has been mooted. If fact, if you don't watch the news, you may just be blissfully unaware that anything is happening. Plenty of money to be had by anyone involved in the process, of course.
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With luck, it will keep the government tied up for decades so they can't make a horlicks of anything else. :y
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Good point, well presented. :y ;D
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With luck, it will keep the government tied up for decades so they can't make a horlicks of anything else. :y
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Don't hold your breath, remember most politicans are educated idiots.😂
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With luck, it will keep the government tied up for decades so they can't make a horlicks of anything else. :y
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Don't hold your breath, remember most politicans are educated idiots.😂
I haven't come across one of those yet.. Oh, you mean they've got certificates? ::)
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Leaving the EU will be similar to working in a school. Every year, a new 'initiative', or two. Every year change the curriculum and move the grade boundaries. Each year add FGM, then CSE, then financial training, then extremist-spotting, then physical abuse. Feed them breakfast in case they didn't get any at home.
20 years ago KS1 children (aged 5-7) were measured by teacher assessments. The government noticed that the level of ability they showed at KS2 (8-11) didn't reconcile with the assessments, so they introduced exams about 10 years ago. Fair enough. Today wifey got told that KS2 SATS were being abandoned in favour of.......teacher assessments.
It never stops, and now there's no money either. Hey ho.
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One thing I'm loving about BREXIT is all the left wing outrage it provokes! ::) :y
Today's storm in a teacup is over TM's A50 letter where she hints that if the EU aren't nice to us, then we may not be as cooperative in security matters in future. The lefty handwringers keep telling us that the EU will screw us, but whenever Ministers talk tough they get all upset! ;D
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If BMW close Cowley, it will be due to the Unions, not Brexit... not that the lefty ne'er-do-wells would ever admit it :D
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Now that is THE big question now, that even us remainers must accept as a real possibility. I think if it is not by 2019, it will happen in the not too distant future :y
Then everyone will be asking why we went through the hell and extortionate fees of Brexit ::) ::) :D ;)
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Now that is THE big question now, that even us remainers must accept as a real possibility. I think if it is not by 2019, it will happen in the not too distant future :y
Then everyone will be asking why we went through the hell and extortionate fees of Brexit ::) ::) :D ;)
Agreed, Lizzie. If the EU is likely to implode anyway we could have saved 60 billion quid. For the life of me I don't recall 'Shouty Farage' mentioning exit fees. It must have slipped his mind.
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I don't think we will end up paying "extortionate exit fees". If we did we could ask for our contributed assets back. Bit like in a divorce asking for half of the house. That would create a panic as ,for example, having to privatise the motorways partly built with EU money would be an issue as the existing Spanish toll roads operators keep going bust
The EU isn't changing. Junckers five paths was just a sop to that. Two speed EU? ;D
Youth unemployment in Southern Europe is sky high still. The Euro is still a big issue. Greece is still a big issue just being kicked down the road.
As to anyone not mentioning exit fees? Surely that was the job of the government. They should have set out the pros and cons OR represented leave with the EU representing remain.
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Speaking to a number of my French colleagues, both in France and Swiss expats, the view is that Le Pen will take the first round by a small margin and then lose out in the second round. Personally I hope their right, but I doubt the french polesters are any more accurate than our own have been of late.
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I don't think we will end up paying "extortionate exit fees". If we did we could ask for our contributed assets back. Bit like in a divorce asking for half of the house. That would create a panic as ,for example, having to privatise the motorways partly built with EU money would be an issue as the existing Spanish toll roads operators keep going bust
The EU isn't changing. Junckers five paths was just a sop to that. Two speed EU? ;D
Youth unemployment in Southern Europe is sky high still. The Euro is still a big issue. Greece is still a big issue just being kicked down the road.
As to anyone not mentioning exit fees? Surely that was the job of the government. They should have set out the pros and cons OR represented leave with the EU representing remain.
Totally agree with that. What the f*ck were the remain campaign doing?
A missed opportunity, it would have made a good counter argument to the £350 million a week Brexit bus. :-\
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Speaking to a number of my French colleagues, both in France and Swiss expats, the view is that Le Pen will take the first round by a small margin and then lose out in the second round. Personally I hope their right, but I doubt the french polesters are any more accurate than our own have been of late.
She may get the largest share of the vote in the election proper but still miss out. This is how it's always worked in France, every other party's will agree to a coalition just to keep her out.
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Speaking to a number of my French colleagues, both in France and Swiss expats, the view is that Le Pen will take the first round by a small margin and then lose out in the second round. Personally I hope their right, but I doubt the french polesters are any more accurate than our own have been of late.
She may get the largest share of the vote in the election proper but still miss out. This is how it's always worked in France, every other party's will agree to a coalition just to keep her out.
She, Marine, has the spectre of her father hanging like a noose around her neck. I don't think she can win but I didn't think an old man with gingery hair could become POTUS.
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Speaking to a number of my French colleagues, both in France and Swiss expats, the view is that Le Pen will take the first round by a small margin and then lose out in the second round. Personally I hope their right, but I doubt the french polesters are any more accurate than our own have been of late.
She may get the largest share of the vote in the election proper but still miss out. This is how it's always worked in France, every other party's will agree to a coalition just to keep her out.
She, Marine, has the spectre of her father hanging like a noose around her neck. I don't think she can win but I didn't think an old man with gingery hair could become POTUS.
Maybe, but that's not the burning question. Would you shag her? ;D
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Speaking to a number of my French colleagues, both in France and Swiss expats, the view is that Le Pen will take the first round by a small margin and then lose out in the second round. Personally I hope their right, but I doubt the french polesters are any more accurate than our own have been of late.
She may get the largest share of the vote in the election proper but still miss out. This is how it's always worked in France, every other party's will agree to a coalition just to keep her out.
She, Marine, has the spectre of her father hanging like a noose around her neck. I don't think she can win but I didn't think an old man with gingery hair could become POTUS.
Maybe, but that's not the burning question. Would you shag her? ;D
I do find her attractive. And plenty of men have sex with women they don't like. :)
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If fascist Le Pen and the Italian clowns get elected so we have #Frexit and #Itexit, will an EU exist for us to leave on 28-03-2019 still exist? ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
Speaking to a number of my French colleagues, both in France and Swiss expats, the view is that Le Pen will take the first round by a small margin and then lose out in the second round. Personally I hope their right, but I doubt the french polesters are any more accurate than our own have been of late.
She may get the largest share of the vote in the election proper but still miss out. This is how it's always worked in France, every other party's will agree to a coalition just to keep her out.
She, Marine, has the spectre of her father hanging like a noose around her neck. I don't think she can win but I didn't think an old man with gingery hair could become POTUS.
Maybe, but that's not the burning question. Would you shag her? ;D
I do find her attractive. And plenty of men have sex with women they don't like. :)
Does she make you? I'd hit her with a laptop. :(
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At the risk of dragging this thread (nearly) back on topic, it seems like the Spanish are already stirring the Brexit pot, although not in a way which I thought they would:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/31/outrage-spain-given-effective-veto-future-gibraltar-eu-plans/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/31/outrage-spain-given-effective-veto-future-gibraltar-eu-plans/)
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Just more posturing. Spain likes to divert attention from its own problems particularly when run by the conservatives.
Britain won't give up a strategic med port.
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Definitely not.
To do so would almost certainly signal the subsequent loss of the falklands. And there's oil under them there hills ;)
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I personally think the people of Gibraltar and the Falklands should be told to either accept the fact that we can't afford to protect their little islands (nor should we try in this day and age), as they have no strategic importance and we gave up being an empire a long time ago.
If they wanted to come over to the uk, they would be given residential status and could settle here.
Gibraltar belongs to Spain and the falklands belong to Argentina. Stupid, outdated way of doing things.
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Outdated yes.
But I'm not sure I would want to be part of a country or society that effectively disowns a swathe of its citizens purely out of expediency.
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Nothing like a skirmish to give the economy a nudge ::)
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Outdated yes.
But I'm not sure I would want to be part of a country or society that effectively disowns a swathe of its citizens purely out of expediency.
The are colonialists living on a foreign countries soil.
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Outdated yes.
But I'm not sure I would want to be part of a country or society that effectively disowns a swathe of its citizens purely out of expediency.
The are Scots living on a foreign countries soil.
Fixed for the Falklands... No irony intended ::)
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Outdated yes.
But I'm not sure I would want to be part of a country or society that effectively disowns a swathe of its citizens purely out of expediency.
The are Scots living on a foreign countries soil.
Fixed for the Falklands... No irony intended ::)
Yes. If they don't want to be Argies, they should set the haggis' on them next time they come calling.
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I personally think the people of Gibraltar and the Falklands should be told to either accept the fact that we can't afford to protect their little islands (nor should we try in this day and age), as they have no strategic importance and we gave up being an empire a long time ago.
If they wanted to come over to the uk, they would be given residential status and could settle here.
Gibraltar belongs to Spain and the falklands belong to Argentina. Stupid, outdated way of doing things.
Ah..... Empire day at school. Way before my time.
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I personally think the people of Gibraltar and the Falklands should be told to either accept the fact that we can't afford to protect their little islands (nor should we try in this day and age), as they have no strategic importance and we gave up being an empire a long time ago.
If they wanted to come over to the uk, they would be given residential status and could settle here.
Gibraltar belongs to Spain and the falklands belong to Argentina. Stupid, outdated way of doing things.
Ah..... Empire day at school. Way before my time.
Oh yes. When you were reminded about the map on the wall that had so much red all over it :-* :-*
By 1958, when I joined school, the reality of the world after the events of two years before were sinking in. Great Britain no longer ruled the world and that maps red would reduce considerably :'( :'( :'(
Something Brexit will not reverse, and nor would we want it to! :D :D ;)
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Sad to see this this in the paper today, the loss of a British institution (where I did some of my most interesting work to date). Not to mention a couple of hundred £m in tax revenue :(
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D)
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Sad to see this this in the paper today, the loss of a British institution (where I did some of my most interesting work to date). Not to mention a couple of hundred £m in tax revenue. :(
www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D (http://www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D)
I cannot link onto that site ;)
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Sorry. Different source same story. Tried to link direct from news app
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-lloyds-of-london-insurance-market-brokers-move-eu-base-business-2017-a7476566.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-lloyds-of-london-insurance-market-brokers-move-eu-base-business-2017-a7476566.html)
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Sad to see this this in the paper today, the loss of a British institution (where I did some of my most interesting work to date). Not to mention a couple of hundred £m in tax revenue. :(
www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D (http://www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D)
I cannot link onto that site ;)
The word censor has put idiot in the middle of it.
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Sad to see this this in the paper today, the loss of a British institution (where I did some of my most interesting work to date). Not to mention a couple of hundred £m in tax revenue :(
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.markeidiotch.com/amp/story/guid/40A444E0-1525-11E7-BCC7-456FC1EDA05D)
More hysterical crap. It was on the news last night that they're sending 8 staff over there.
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Yes stemo, but the people are not really the point. Along with them will go their written EU business. 11% (and growing) of about £2-3bn p.a. Plus re-insurance. And that's just to begin with. ::)
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Anyone with any sense would know that they'll put some staff in an 'outpost' to protect the relatively small percentage of the business that the EU generates.
And how do you know 'that's just the start'? Are you guessing?Have you thought of becoming a journalist? ::)
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No, because writing business across the EU is done under passporting regulations, which we won't have access to. Because we're not going to accept free movement.
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Well...if they think that their business will grow exponentially in Europe after brexit, they must, of course, try to protect that future revenue stream. It may or may not come to pass that we lose passporting. But they'd better watch their backs, because the other 89% might just go elsewhere, as would be right and proper for rats deserting what they see as a possible sinking ship.
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If their business is currently growing in Euroland, its about the only one that is. ;)
Re the Gibraltar "problem". Its very easy to solve imo. Spain and the rest of the EU claim to be all about democracy. We can just give Gibraltar another referendum to determine what its citizens want to do. Last time it happened it was 99% to remain British, and I doubt it would be much different this time.
Then, tell the Spaniards if their fishing boats enter British territorial waters after Brexit, the Royal Navy will use them for target practice.
Seemples. :)
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If their business is currently growing in Euroland, its about the only one that is. ;)
Re the Gibraltar "problem". Its very easy to solve imo. Spain and the rest of the EU claim to be all about democracy. We can just give Gibraltar another referendum to determine what its citizens want to do. Last time it happened it was 99% to remain British, and I doubt it would be much different this time.
Then, tell the Spaniards if their fishing boats enter British territorial waters after Brexit, the Royal Navy will use them for target practice.
Seemples. :)
I don't agree. If we're working on those principles, let's give Scotland a referendum now.
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Oh...and the Royal Navy ain't all it's cracked up to be. ;D
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I see no reason why not. I don't want to break up the Union. I was born a Unionist and will die a Unionist, but if they vote to leave, I'm confident they will be back within ten years. :y
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Oh...and the Royal Navy ain't all it's cracked up to be. ;D
If it cant sort out the bleedin Spaniards, then we need to double its budget sharpish. :D ;D
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Oh...and the Royal Navy ain't all it's cracked up to be. ;D
If it cant sort out the bleedin Spaniards, then we need to double its budget sharpish. :D ;D
No doubt we could sort out their fishing fleet but, if Spain decided to ban us from their national waters, and we went in anyway, they would have international law on their side. And we'd have no EU friends to help us out, not even diplomatically.
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We can always nuke em I suppose. :D
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Meanwhile, Juncker the drunkard must have been as pissed as a parrot when he made his speech in Malta today. He said that due to Trumps support of Brexit , he was going to campaign for Texas and Ohio to leave the United states. ;D
Predictably, Farage called him a fool - again.
http://yourbrexit.co.uk/news/nigel-farage-destroys-eu-chief-juncker-threat-trump/
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If their business is currently growing in Euroland, its about the only one that is. ;)
Re the Gibraltar "problem". Its very easy to solve imo. Spain and the rest of the EU claim to be all about democracy. We can just give Gibraltar another referendum to determine what its citizens want to do. Last time it happened it was 99% to remain British, and I doubt it would be much different this time.
Then, tell the Spaniards if their fishing boats enter British territorial waters after Brexit, the Royal Navy will use them for target practice.
Seemples. :)
Albs is becoming more of a wishy-washy liberal the older he gets. :)
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Meanwhile, Juncker the drunkard must have been as pissed as a parrot when he made his speech in Malta today. He said that due to Trumps support of Brexit , he was going to campaign for Texas and Ohio to leave the United states. ;D
Predictably, Farage called him a fool - again.
http://yourbrexit.co.uk/news/nigel-farage-destroys-eu-chief-juncker-threat-trump/
This story has been doing the rounds for a few days and in response Trump said he'd impose 100% import duty on EU goods! ;D
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Oh...and the Royal Navy ain't all it's cracked up to be. ;D
If it cant sort out the bleedin Spaniards, then we need to double its budget sharpish. :D ;D
No doubt we could sort out their fishing fleet but, if Spain decided to ban us from their national waters, and we went in anyway, they would have international law on their side. And we'd have no EU friends to help us out, not even diplomatically.
Are we going to become Billy no mates? :-\
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Ooo the BBC are creaming themselves on The News At 10, over the EU stance on BREXIT and trade talks, and Gibralter! ::)
They're still orgasming over staff shortages in the hospitality sector, once free movement ends! ;D
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Of course they're threatening a hardened approach... the EU has to because it has nothing to offer... we are no more obliged to accept their terms than they are ours ;)
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Of course they're threatening a hardened approach... the EU has to because it has nothing to offer... we are no more obliged to accept their terms than they are ours ;)
I know that and you know that and we all know that it's all part of a lefty liberal mainstream media plot to sway public opinion against BREXIT. ::)
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If their business is currently growing in Euroland, its about the only one that is. ;)
Re the Gibraltar "problem". Its very easy to solve imo. Spain and the rest of the EU claim to be all about democracy. We can just give Gibraltar another referendum to determine what its citizens want to do. Last time it happened it was 99% to remain British, and I doubt it would be much different this time.
Then, tell the Spaniards if their fishing boats enter British territorial waters after Brexit, the royal navy will use them for target practice.
Seemples. :)
For that we need, servicable boats, and real shell's,...