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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Entwood on 23 April 2017, 20:45:15
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Thought I'd found a "possible" contender ...
http://www.elitecar.co.uk/used-cars/holden-commodore-bordon-201701191461751
but no tow bar and, apparently, no chance of getting one in the UK .. :(
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Not inexpensive for a nine year old car. :)
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Not keen on those looks one bit, but that kind of budget, I'd look to something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3)
But diesel is better for towing, so I'd look at this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
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Not keen on those looks one bit, but that kind of budget, I'd look to something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3)
But diesel is better for towing, so I'd look at this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
Only if a) the towing vehicle weighs 6 Tonnes and the trailer weighs 38 Tonnes ...... or b) the towing vehicle floats on water or c) the towing vehicle runs on rails
Please note the proposed vehicle had a factory fit LPG conversion ... please compare apples with apples, not pears ... :)
:)
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You'd turn your nose up at a Range Rover V8 diesel? Sure that's about best tow car going :)
You are towing a burger van, diesel makes perfect sense? I think a run in fatty admin's XJ would make you re-consider.
While I've enjoyed LPG for many years, I don't think i'd ever run another. Diesels are very refined and deliver excellent torque, without huge RPM and I'm comparing like for like. 2.2 petrol vs 2.0 diesel.
Given large capacity petrol's are fairly rare these days (hence your replacement issues) - only with new tax rules could they come back.
Also first link, was to a petrol XF. :)
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You'd turn your nose up at a Range Rover V8 diesel? Sure that's about best tow car going :)
You are towing a burger van, diesel makes perfect sense? I think a run in fatty admin's XJ would make you re-consider.
While I've enjoyed LPG for many years, I don't think i'd ever run another. Diesels are very refined and deliver excellent torque, without huge RPM and I'm comparing like for like. 2.2 petrol vs 2.0 diesel.
Given large capacity petrol's are fairly rare these days (hence your replacement issues) - only with new tax rules could they come back.
Also first link, was to a petrol XF. :)
I have to agree ref diesels. The power and torque from my '10 Mondeo 6 speed is really, really impressive. Especially given it will do 50mpg all day long
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Not keen on those looks one bit, but that kind of budget, I'd look to something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3)
But diesel is better for towing, so I'd look at this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
Only if a) the towing vehicle weighs 6 Tonnes and the trailer weighs 38 Tonnes ...... or b) the towing vehicle floats on water or c) the towing vehicle runs on rails
Please note the proposed vehicle had a factory fit LPG conversion ... please compare apples with apples, not pears ... :)
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Probably not factory fit and if it is then servicing it may be an issue ;)
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Lets get one thing absolutely clear ... unless I come out of retirement and retrain as either a truck driver, train driver or boat driver .. I will NOT, out of any choice, drive a smelly, polluting, child damaging diseasel..... period.
And yes .. I would "turn my nose up" at a diesel (or petrol) Range Rover .. if given one I would sell it. I don't want/need a 4X4 chelsea tractor, I don't want/need a soot chucker.... I have towed with Pajeros, Showguns, Rangies, Landies, Discos ... yes they all work .. but I don't want or need one.
If/When the omega goes I would "like" a rear wheel drive, saloon, NA V6 petrol of around the same power, with, hopefully, sufficient boot space to take an LPG tank. At the moment that appears to limit me to BMWs, Mercs, & Jags, but the odd other option appears .. :)
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Not keen on those looks one bit, but that kind of budget, I'd look to something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3)
But diesel is better for towing, so I'd look at this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
Only if a) the towing vehicle weighs 6 Tonnes and the trailer weighs 38 Tonnes ...... or b) the towing vehicle floats on water or c) the towing vehicle runs on rails
Please note the proposed vehicle had a factory fit LPG conversion ... please compare apples with apples, not pears ... :)
:)
I have to say that my diseasal tows my caravan effortlessly. My Omega was a good tow car, but my Merc is much better. ... 374 ftlbs of torque makes a huge difference.
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That car is probably factory fit as it was a factory option... Without looking, it's an '09 Commodore Executive registered locally to me... I used to see it regularly enough.
Tow bars readily available for it, 2,300 Kgs being the factory design iirc... Insurers might require some hoop jumping, but it can and will tow ;)
As for diesel V8 Range Rovers... Really? You have read Jws guide?
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Is a Lexus LS430 / 460 an option Nige ? V8 rather than V6, but I'm sure you could learn to live with a couple of extra cylinders.
Well equipped, I believe they have self levelling, and built like tanks.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Lexus-LS460-4-6-V8-Auto-Service-History-A-FULL-Spec-/252691095969?hash=item3ad59021a1:g:QYUAAOSwEzxYXO86
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That car is probably factory fit as it was a factory option... Without looking, it's an '09 Commodore Executive registered locally to me... I used to see it regularly enough.
Tow bars readily available for it, 2,300 Kgs being the factory design iirc... Insurers might require some hoop jumping, but it can and will tow ;)
As for diesel V8 Range Rovers... Really? You have read Jws guide?
They may be available but the current UK laws require it to be type approved, which it won't be because it's not a mainstream European car... Couldn't get one for the Brother in Law's Jag either ::)
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Not keen on those looks one bit, but that kind of budget, I'd look to something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3)
But diesel is better for towing, so I'd look at this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
Only if a) the towing vehicle weighs 6 Tonnes and the trailer weighs 38 Tonnes ...... or b) the towing vehicle floats on water or c) the towing vehicle runs on rails
Please note the proposed vehicle had a factory fit LPG conversion ... please compare apples with apples, not pears ... :)
:)
I have to say that my diseasal tows my caravan effortlessly. My Omega was a good tow car, but my Merc is much better. ... 374 ftlbs of torque makes a huge difference.
Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. With just my 4 pot the update in torque is good, as it has around 320Nm (236 lb.-ft.)
My 2.0 TDi has more torque than my 3.2 Omega, as it only has 290Nm.
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Not keen on those looks one bit, but that kind of budget, I'd look to something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201701271713275?make=JAGUAR&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=tw89de&sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=XF&page=3)
But diesel is better for towing, so I'd look at this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704214654763?fuel-type=Diesel&make=JAGUAR&sort=sponsored&model=XF&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
Only if a) the towing vehicle weighs 6 Tonnes and the trailer weighs 38 Tonnes ...... or b) the towing vehicle floats on water or c) the towing vehicle runs on rails
Please note the proposed vehicle had a factory fit LPG conversion ... please compare apples with apples, not pears ... :)
:)
I have to say that my diseasal tows my caravan effortlessly. My Omega was a good tow car, but my Merc is much better. ... 374 ftlbs of torque makes a huge difference.
Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. With just my 4 pot the update in torque is good, as it has around 320Nm (236 lb.-ft.)
My 2.0 TDi has more torque than my 3.2 Omega, as it only has 290Nm.
Mk1 Focus 1.8 Tdci (115 bhp) has more torque than an Omega 3.0! :o
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That car is probably factory fit as it was a factory option... Without looking, it's an '09 Commodore Executive registered locally to me... I used to see it regularly enough.
Tow bars readily available for it, 2,300 Kgs being the factory design iirc... Insurers might require some hoop jumping, but it can and will tow ;)
As for diesel V8 Range Rovers... Really? You have read Jws guide?
Oh, and even over there the LPG wasn't generally fitted at the factory but rather by an aftermarket supplier before delivery 😉
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The fundamental is the need for petrol so no point in discussing diesel, it maybe that Nige does lots of short trips coupled with long jaunts in the pikey palace, if that's the case only a moron would chose a modern diesel.
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V70 T5/6, Bmw 5/7 Series, Mercedes E or S Class...
Basically any pre March 2006 :y
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There is a version of the predecessor to the Omega which has a petrol engine and 419 ft/lb torque. Unusual to see one with a tow bar, but with a bit of butchery standard tow bar will fit.
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Holden made a better stab at LPG than Vauxhall/Opel... Been offering LPG Commodore for decades. :y
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Tow bar be available on eBay.au, or Amazon. Everything is possible.
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Tow bar be available on eBay.au, or Amazon. Everything is possible.
Not legal to fit in UK, as already pointed out. So while yes you could fit it, if ever involved in an accident you would have serious issues.
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Nothing to say that it wasn't imported with one fitted ::)
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Tow bar be available on eBay.au, or Amazon. Everything is possible.
Not legal to fit in UK, as already pointed out. So while yes you could fit it, if ever involved in an accident you would have serious issues.
I'm not so sure about that. Yes, technically, on a car built after <some date> the towbar must be an EU type approved component. That is also true of the car itself, however, and I'd bet that it doesn't have EU type approval, it's been imported and put on the road via the UK's IVA process, most likely.
Now, had the car had a tow bar fitted when it went through IVA I doubt anyone would have batted an eyelid. The inspector would have judged it "equivalent to" an EU type approved towbar (sufficiently strong and properly attached, etc) and the car would be legally towing on the UK roads.
Go into a towbar fitter and they'll probably tell you that they don't have a towbar they can legally supply. Source and fit a towbar yourself and I'm sure you would be fine. You can argue that the car isn't a type approved car, but that it has demonstrated equivalence to the relevant standards.
This is subtly different to chucking a towbar on a UK Monaro / VXR. They are EU type approved vehicles for which an EU type approved towbar fitment is not available, so game over.
Long winded way of explaining what Dr. G has just said. ^
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Basically any pre March 2006 :y
Though its not unreasonable to say, if Pikey Entwood is replacing his Omega, he may want soemthing a bit newer.
However, I suspect he well keep the Omega for a fair bit longer, as its a pretty good tow car (and his pikey palace is a decent size), its cheap to run, and looked plenty tidy enough last time I saw it.
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The fundamental is the need for petrol so no point in discussing diesel, it maybe that Nige does lots of short trips coupled with long jaunts in the pikey palace, if that's the case only a moron would chose a modern diesel.
Mr DTM, you know talking common sense never happens when talking about replacements for the Omega :o
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Tow bar be available on eBay.au, or Amazon. Everything is possible.
Not legal to fit in UK, as already pointed out. So while yes you could fit it, if ever involved in an accident you would have serious issues.
I'm not so sure about that. Yes, technically, on a car built after <some date> the towbar must be an EU type approved component. That is also true of the car itself, however, and I'd bet that it doesn't have EU type approval, it's been imported and put on the road via the UK's IVA process, most likely.
Now, had the car had a tow bar fitted when it went through IVA I doubt anyone would have batted an eyelid. The inspector would have judged it "equivalent to" an EU type approved towbar (sufficiently strong and properly attached, etc) and the car would be legally towing on the UK roads.
Go into a towbar fitter and they'll probably tell you that they don't have a towbar they can legally supply. Source and fit a towbar yourself and I'm sure you would be fine. You can argue that the car isn't a type approved car, but that it has demonstrated equivalence to the relevant standards.
This is subtly different to chucking a towbar on a UK Monaro / VXR. They are EU type approved vehicles for which an EU type approved towbar fitment is not available, so game over.
Long winded way of explaining what Dr. G has just said. ^
Something I've seen discussed at length on kit car forums .. I'm not sure anyone has ever been unfortunate enough to have had to test the outcome of fitting a towbar to a car that's been through IVA, though (if you see what I mean)
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Something I've seen discussed at length on kit car forums .. I'm not sure anyone has ever been unfortunate enough to have had to test the outcome of fitting a towbar to a car that's been through IVA, though (if you see what I mean)
Indeed. It's not a straightforward case of <towbar doesn't have the right number printed on it>, so, if it ever mattered enough, an expert witness would have to be called to tell the court whether the towbar fitment was or wasn't significant.
As long as we aren't talking about towing a twin axle burger van with a Robin Hood, it's probably not ever going to be an issue, but the point is that, if the car isn't an EU type approved vehicle, it has at some point been registered in the UK because it meets broadly equivalent standards. That means you can't be pulled up for not having the right number on a component, because that component could have been judged at IVA to be compliant.
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So obtaining and fitting a genuine Holden accessory from a Holden dealer, expensive I know, but should then be demonstrated to be fit for purpose.
Any other source, they are readily available from the US from $150, might not be so easy to prove compliance.
Buy the car, spend £500 on obtaining a genuine Holden towbar, fit the seats from a VXR8 and call it done ;)
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Indeed. It's not a straightforward case of <towbar doesn't have the right number printed on it>, so, if it ever mattered enough, an expert witness would have to be called to tell the court whether the towbar fitment was or wasn't significant.
As long as we aren't talking about towing a twin axle burger van with a Robin Hood, it's probably not ever going to be an issue, but the point is that, if the car isn't an EU type approved vehicle, it has at some point been registered in the UK because it meets broadly equivalent standards. That means you can't be pulled up for not having the right number on a component, because that component could have been judged at IVA to be compliant.
I strongly considered making (or having made, not sure I trust my welding that much yet! ;D) a bar up for the Cobra and IVAing it with it in place; that way it surely constitutes as much of a pass as the rest of the car.. then taking it off, of course, as I have nothing to tow.
Although for those long trips away .. https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FbNVpG_UX90/Ujq6-EzchYI/AAAAAAAAUeo/AsJ018-EnNY/s1600/ac-cobra-with-cobra-trailer.jpg
Sorry Entwood, more drift!
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Tow bar be available on eBay.au, or Amazon. Everything is possible.
Not legal to fit in UK, as already pointed out. So while yes you could fit it, if ever involved in an accident you would have serious issues.
I'm not so sure about that. Yes, technically, on a car built after <some date> the towbar must be an EU type approved component. That is also true of the car itself, however, and I'd bet that it doesn't have EU type approval, it's been imported and put on the road via the UK's IVA process, most likely.
Now, had the car had a tow bar fitted when it went through IVA I doubt anyone would have batted an eyelid. The inspector would have judged it "equivalent to" an EU type approved towbar (sufficiently strong and properly attached, etc) and the car would be legally towing on the UK roads.
Go into a towbar fitter and they'll probably tell you that they don't have a towbar they can legally supply. Source and fit a towbar yourself and I'm sure you would be fine. You can argue that the car isn't a type approved car, but that it has demonstrated equivalence to the relevant standards.
This is subtly different to chucking a towbar on a UK Monaro / VXR. They are EU type approved vehicles for which an EU type approved towbar fitment is not available, so game over.
Long winded way of explaining what Dr. G has just said. ^
This is what's needed I think, perhaps get the seller to install one. Then t's a case of 'it was fitted when I bought it' - other wise the insurance conversations could be interesting. :-\
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Type approval also rules out Lexus LS.
Iirc you can buy the kit and people have fitted them for carrying bikes. One thing you can 100% guarantee is that your insurer would view it as a reason not to pay out (IVA cert or not) and you would have to fight them in the event of making a claim.
Not worth it imho, but as this thread proves, the OP may well think differently to me as I'd have had the XF 3.0D or a merc e350d in his position. :y
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This is what's needed I think, perhaps get the seller to install one. Then t's a case of 'it was fitted when I bought it' - other wise the insurance conversations could be interesting. :-\
Not really. It's not an EU type approved car, so it doesn't need an EU type approved tow bar. If it's a tow bar manufactured for the car concerned, then it doesn't matter who fitted it or when, by my reckoning.
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The fundamental is the need for petrol so no point in discussing diesel, it maybe that Nige does lots of short trips coupled with long jaunts in the pikey palace, if that's the case only a moron would chose a modern diesel.
100% correct ... :) Someone who understands at last !!!
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Basically any pre March 2006 :y
Though its not unreasonable to say, if Pikey Entwood is replacing his Omega, he may want soemthing a bit newer.
However, I suspect he well keep the Omega for a fair bit longer, as its a pretty good tow car (and his pikey palace is a decent size), its cheap to run, and looked plenty tidy enough last time I saw it.
Another one who understands .. :) (and they are both Admin !! sensible people :) )
The ONLY reason the "thought" of replacement has arisen is the cost, and availability (or lack of to be honest) of continental breakdown insurance. Due to the car being 16 years old most companies are not interested, or state they would only cover costs "up to the value of the car" ... which as we know is Glasses Guide which probably means that even a coil pack would be off limits !! :(
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The fundamental is the need for petrol so no point in discussing diesel, it maybe that Nige does lots of short trips coupled with long jaunts in the pikey palace, if that's the case only a moron would chose a modern diesel.
100% correct ... :) Someone who understands at last !!!
I would consider what TB has just bought.......obviously without the canal boat engine. :y
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Two good value and reliable cars.
Infiniti M35H
Infiniti G37
Neither burn lorry fuel.
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Two good value and reliable cars.
Infiniti M35H
Infiniti G37
Neither burn lorry fuel.
Just how many few did they actually sell?
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The fundamental is the need for petrol so no point in discussing diesel, it maybe that Nige does lots of short trips coupled with long jaunts in the pikey palace, if that's the case only a moron would chose a modern diesel.
100% correct ... :) Someone who understands at last !!!
I would consider what TB has just bought.......obviously without the canal boat engine. :y
+1 :y
;D ;D ;D
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Two good value and reliable cars.
Infiniti M35H
Infiniti G37
Neither burn lorry fuel.
Just how many few did they actually sell?
Both models are pretty rare......which is nice. The 3.5/3.7 V6 is from the Datsun 350Z/370Z so should be reliable. :y
I like them. The M35H is a hybrid, but the M37 is also available.
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Infiniti(UK) state that none of their cars are suitable for towing ... saves them the cost of homologating a tow bar I guess .. :( all the G37S literature on towing is US based :(
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Mk1 Focus 1.8 Tdci (115 bhp) has more torque than an Omega 3.0! :o
But still has less cylinders than doors ;)
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Mk1 Focus 1.8 Tdci (115 bhp) has more torque than an Omega 3.0! :o
But still has less cylinders than doors ;)
Drove a 17 plate BMW 116d today, that has just 3 cylinders. :o
Got it sideways though :D
Not my car, not even my car share buddies car but a loaner..... nothing handles like a hire car ;D
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Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. ....
A lad at work bought himself a VW Touareg V10 5 litre diseasal to tow his daughter's /wife's horse box. It has 700 Nm :y just is worse at passing a fuel stations than mine
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Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. ....
A lad at work bought himself a VW Touareg V10 5 litre diseasal to tow his daughter's /wife's horse box. It has 700 Nm :y just is worse at passing a fuel stations than mine
Now that's a tow car :y
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Mk1 Focus 1.8 Tdci (115 bhp) has more torque than an Omega 3.0! :o
But still has less cylinders than doors ;)
Drove a 17 plate BMW 116d today, that has just 3 cylinders. :o
Got it sideways though :D
Not my car, not even my car share buddies car but a loaner..... nothing handles like a hire car ;D
My Smarts only have 3 cylinders .... :y
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Now that's a tow car :y
Not sure I like their DSG auto though :-\
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Now that's a tow car :y
Not sure I like their DSG auto though :-\
Must be one hell of a gearbox to handle that amount of torque. :-\
I avoided DSG when looking at my VW, due to potential issues.
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Now that's a tow car :y
Not sure I like their DSG auto though :-\
Must be one hell of a gearbox to handle that amount of torque. :-\
I avoided DSG when looking at my VW, due to potential issues.
I believe they're better now, but wasn't keen on the DSG courtesy car i had a while back ...... I'd have to try another
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I found they took some getting used to. To get smooth progress in traffic requires a different way of applying the power to a traditional slush box.
Jumping from the omega to the dsg yeti and back again takes a minute or two of adjustment.
Once on the move though I find them to be very very good. Pretty seamless gear changes, comparing like with like (7 speed dsg in the yeti vs 8 speed zf in the m140i) I couldn't say one was better than another, they were just a bit different.
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Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. ....
A lad at work bought himself a VW Touareg V10 5 litre diseasal to tow his daughter's /wife's horse box. It has 700 Nm :y just is worse at passing a fuel stations than mine
My 5 pot (half of that V10) pulls like a train when towing,V10 must be mental(till its goes wrong :-X)
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Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. ....
A lad at work bought himself a VW Touareg V10 5 litre diseasal to tow his daughter's /wife's horse box. It has 700 Nm :y just is worse at passing a fuel stations than mine
My 5 pot (half of that V10) pulls like a train when towing,V10 must be mental(till its goes wrong :-X)
Actually the Touareg is the only vehicle I've ever towed with where you can forget that its towing,2.5 ton kerbweight makes it super stable :y
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I like that Holden Commodore in the advert. £10k not a lot of money.
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Yeah can imagine with nearly 400 :o - Torque is king when it comes to towing, BHP matters little really. ....
A lad at work bought himself a VW Touareg V10 5 litre diseasal to tow his daughter's /wife's horse box. It has 700 Nm :y just is worse at passing a fuel stations than mine
My 5 pot (half of that V10) pulls like a train when towing,V10 must be mental(till its goes wrong :-X)
Actually the Touareg is the only vehicle I've ever towed with where you can forget that its towing,2.5 ton kerbweight makes it super stable :y
My R Class is 'only' 2.2 tonnes :y
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Until this thread I was wondering about this Ebay advert:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-front-bumper-2010-/222469497562?hash=item33cc3722da:g:It8AAOSwB-1Y6137
Now I know why they may think that bumper belongs to an Omega ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Until this thread I was wondering about this Ebay advert:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-front-bumper-2010-/222469497562?hash=item33cc3722da:g:It8AAOSwB-1Y6137
Now I know why they may think that bumper belongs to an Omega ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Insignia. :-* :-* :-*
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Until this thread I was wondering about this Ebay advert:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-front-bumper-2010-/222469497562?hash=item33cc3722da:g:It8AAOSwB-1Y6137
Now I know why they may think that bumper belongs to an Omega ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Insignia. :-* :-* :-*
Is it Opti? Well I'm darned!! :D :D
Still listed as for an Omega so they don't know either! It does look like the front end of a Commodore ;)