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Title: Diane abbot
Post by: biggriffin on 07 June 2017, 08:41:31
Now we know she is absolutely useless, and a sponger of the highest order, now the election campaign is about to go skyward and she keeps making mistakes every time she speaks,

She's gone on the sick, handy I would say, or has Jeremy told her to disappear for a bit.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 June 2017, 08:50:38
She disappeared for a couple of weeks after the last couple of interviews, where she demonstrated that her I.Q. figure is actually minus.
After the London attack, they had little choice but to let her out of her box again. She is Shadow Home secretary, and a prominent London MP.
I have no doubt that whoever made this decision, bitterly regretted it less than 30 seconds into the interview. ;D ;D
Inept doesn't even begin to describe her. She really is a waste of good fresh air.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 June 2017, 09:25:43
Yep, it's one thing to be unprepared for an interview and not to have committed to memory the facts that you are relying on. It's another to try and BS your way out of it, hoping nobody will notice. How stupid does she think we are? She's living proof of how Corbyn had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to assemble a shadow cabinet who would work with him IMHO.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: tunnie on 07 June 2017, 09:29:15
She might as well become a Tory, as she has aided the conservative campaign the most  ;D

Shame really, they should roll her out more often.  :D

Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 June 2017, 09:45:09
She might as well become a Tory, as she has aided the conservative campaign the most

Yup, total opps up from the day she was appointed. TBH I think she's been benched. I reckon you won't see hide nor hair of her until Friday morning at the earliest.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 07 June 2017, 09:47:42

Just in case anyone missed the last interview. She really is a disaster. Regardless of anything else, she is one reason for not wanting a Labour Government.


https://order-order.com/2017/06/05/diane-abbott-car-crash-clueless-about-terror-report/
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 June 2017, 09:59:32
Annnnddd she's outta here!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-labour-replaced-sacked-lyn-brown-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-a7776491.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-labour-replaced-sacked-lyn-brown-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-a7776491.html)

Bout 6 months too late but there you go.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 10:05:18
Stuck in lift with Corbyn and Abbott. She can't work out what floor number, he won't press the button.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 June 2017, 10:09:09
Stuck in lift with Corbyn and Abbott. She can't work out what floor number, he won't press the button.
;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 10:27:04
Just come across this gem...

https://youtu.be/ur5axvTRVZI

It would seem Ms Abbott hasn't improved with age :D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 07 June 2017, 10:46:58
Annnnddd she's outta here!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-labour-replaced-sacked-lyn-brown-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-a7776491.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-labour-replaced-sacked-lyn-brown-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-a7776491.html)

Bout 6 months too late but there you go.


See below, note the word "temporarily"

https://twitter.com/i/moments/872370729152651265



Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Varche on 07 June 2017, 11:05:21
Dianne Abbot comes across as well educated, morally sound, forward thinking visionary of a woman.

Oh and she's the best with numbers anyone is likely to find.
 
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 11:12:47
Dianne Abbot comes across as well educated, morally sound, forward thinking visionary of a woman.

Oh and she's the best with numbers anyone is likely to find.
Not sure what you're smoking, but you should probably share it :D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 June 2017, 11:20:30
Dianne Abbot comes across as well educated, morally sound, forward thinking visionary of a woman.

Oh and she's the best with numbers anyone is likely to find.
Not sure what you're smoking, but you should probably share it :D
That's an Olive plantation he lives on, honest, guv. ::)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 11:25:21
He's clearly making something from the stones then ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 June 2017, 12:49:09
Just come across this gem...

https://youtu.be/ur5axvTRVZI

It would seem Ms Abbott hasn't improved with age :D

That clip is from 1990 when DA sported an 'afro' ;)

........and just months before Thatcher was 'knifed in the back' by her own party, and more specifically by that nice Mr Heseltine.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 June 2017, 12:55:59


See below, note the word "temporarily"

https://twitter.com/i/moments/872370729152651265

Yes, I had noted that. However I'd mentally filed it alongside "she has my full support" which can be roughly translated as "she'll be down the job centre by this time next week"  ;D.

I suspect it's a reasonable way to get her out of the way without having to face the public fallout from sacking a member of your shadow cabinet 2 days before an election. My prediction is that whether labour win or lose  she'll be back to backbench obscurity and snuggled up next to portillo on the daily politics sofa by the end of the month.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 12:57:17
Not sure what Portillo has done to deserve that fate :o
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 June 2017, 13:23:20
For reasons of 'political correctness' and 'ethnic equality' Corbyn should replace DA with Dawn Butler.....the other black girl. ::) :)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 13:35:31
For reasons of 'political correctness' and 'ethnic equality' Corbyn should replace DA with Dawn Butler.....the other black girl. ::) :)
He might also grow a beard and wear sandals. He will still be a weaselly little shit.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 June 2017, 13:49:58
Stuck in lift with Corbyn and Abbott. She can't work out what floor number, he won't press the button.

A different version.

Three Labour politicians in a lift.  Diane Abbott doesn't know what floor she's on let alone which building.  John McDonnell introduces an 80% Floor Tax and Jeremy Corbyn won't press the button.  The floors all go to a different building and the only momentum they have is straight to the basement!  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Varche on 07 June 2017, 14:09:46
He's clearly making something from the stones then ;D

Hey, I resemble that remark! We did have some canabis plants that germinated from bird seed feeding.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 June 2017, 14:12:28
We did have some canabis plants that germinated from bird seed feeding, your Honour

Fixed that for you ;).
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 June 2017, 14:13:44
He's clearly making something from the stones then ;D

Hey, I resemble that remark! We did have some canabis plants that germinated from bird seed feeding.

Filed under "it's got bells on". ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Varche on 07 June 2017, 14:14:36
I won't tell you about the guy with 500 plants in our village!! (your honour)  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Rods2 on 07 June 2017, 14:22:12
I won't tell you about the guy with 500 plants in our village!! (your honour)  ;D

His defence was: I didn't know what I was doing, I was as stoned as a Lord, M'lud, err I mean I was as sober as a judge, judge. ::) :o ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 June 2017, 14:24:18
I won't tell you about the guy with 500 plants in our village!! (your honour)  ;D

Is his name Juan?
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Varche on 07 June 2017, 16:39:33
Funnily enough, yes. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 June 2017, 16:49:07
Just come across this gem...

https://youtu.be/ur5axvTRVZI

It would seem Ms Abbott hasn't improved with age :D

That clip is from 1990 when DA sported an 'afro' ;)

........and just months before Thatcher was 'knifed in the back' by her own party, and more specifically by that nice Mr Heseltine.

Did that clip give you a semi M'lud?  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 07 June 2017, 16:49:35
Shame really  I was looking forward to her next interview, stupid bloody woman best place for her is somewhere with lots of men in white coats a complete & utter idiot.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Varche on 07 June 2017, 17:01:24
Shame really  I was looking forward to her next interview, stupid bloody woman best place for her is somewhere with lots of men in white coats a complete & utter idiot.

I am not sure if I am reading you right. Are you not a fan then? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 07 June 2017, 17:26:03
Shame really  I was looking forward to her next interview, stupid bloody woman best place for her is somewhere with lots of men in white coats a complete & utter idiot.

I am not sure if I am reading you right. Are you not a fan then? ;D ;D






Basic training taught me..The five Ps  Practice Preparation without these Piss Poor Performance, she probably spends her time watching the Jeremy Kyle show & stuffing her stupid fat face . 
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 June 2017, 17:29:23
Shame really  I was looking forward to her next interview, stupid bloody woman best place for her is somewhere with lots of men in white coats a complete & utter idiot.

Oooh! She wouldn't like that. :o

Let's try again...

Shame really  I was looking forward to her next interview, stupid bloody woman best place for her is somewhere with lots of men gender neutral operatives in white coats racially agnostic employer-mandated work attire a complete & utter idiot.

Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 June 2017, 17:33:02
If Labour win then they could pack her off to Brussels as Britain's last EU Commissar, where she can't do any harm.  Can she?   :-\  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: TheBoy on 07 June 2017, 18:20:15
On the flip side, I saw a great poster today which I should have photo'd.

But tag line was "Tories, putting the N back into cuts"
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2017, 18:26:09
On the flip side, I saw a great poster today which I should have photo'd.

But tag line was "Tories, putting the N back into cuts"
Saw one on the M40... Said summat like "Vote Labour, Bankrupt Britain"
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Rods2 on 07 June 2017, 22:46:46
Abbotpotumus might be looking a bit anorexic in next photos of her tomorrow evening if she has been too ill today and tomorrow to eat her daily mega-go-large KFC family bucket. ::) ::) ::)

But Lord William 'Willy' Sitterpong Meerkat still would. :-[ :P
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: omega2018 on 08 June 2017, 00:04:15
On the flip side, I saw a great poster today which I should have photo'd.

But tag line was "Tories, putting the N back into cuts"

how about "let's hope June is the end of May"
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2017, 17:11:51

I don't like Pierced Organ, but I did really think this was funny. I do think he meant Foot in Mouth though. Funny how people get so worked up about things


(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/Old_Mosher/PiersMorgan_AbbottFoofAndMouth_01_zpswxlf8lyj.jpg)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 June 2017, 17:17:15
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: TheBoy on 08 June 2017, 17:25:52
See. Stupidity is spreading like wildfire.  People are publically tweeting that they are voting for Diane Abbott :o. I mean. Really.


The mass cull can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 June 2017, 17:35:02
She is so ill she got out to vote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/diane-abbott-pictured-turning-out-to-vote-during-mystery-illness-a3560231.html

Perhaps she is mentally ill.  That could explain a lot!! ::) ::) ::) :D ;)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2017, 17:50:41
See. Stupidity is spreading like wildfire.  People are publically tweeting that they are voting for Diane Abbott :o. I mean. Really.


The mass cull can't come soon enough.

She got 60% of the vote in her seat last time.  :o
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2017, 17:56:35
See. Stupidity is spreading like wildfire.  People are publically tweeting that they are voting for Diane Abbott :o. I mean. Really.


The mass cull can't come soon enough.

She got 60% of the vote in her seat last time.  :o
Yes. And she has a very large seat.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: TD on 08 June 2017, 18:00:52
See. Stupidity is spreading like wildfire.  People are publically tweeting that they are voting for Diane Abbott :o. I mean. Really.


The mass cull can't come soon enough.

She got 60% of the vote in her seat last time.  :o
Yes. And she has a very large seat.

Why don't you just say what you mean  ;D ;D Your not usually shy  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 June 2017, 20:37:19
She's rightly out of the picture, failing to be across your brief is unforgivable, particularly when you KNOW the press will be hungry for any tiny mistake to pounce on. Don't give em (several) big fu€kups to use.

Odd in a way, because by all accounts she's a very intelligent individual who has done a lot for her constituents and a number of minority groups.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2017, 20:40:30
She's rightly out of the picture, failing to be across your brief is unforgivable, particularly when you KNOW the press will be hungry for any tiny mistake to pounce on. Don't give em (several) big fu€kups to use.

Odd in a way, because by all accounts she's a very intelligent individual who has done a lot for her constituents and a number of minority groups.
She's probably great as your local MP, but Home Secretary is a big leap upwards from there.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 June 2017, 21:58:56
Yup, and a role to which she is wholly unsuited, tbh any other party would have sidelined her after the first clusterfu€k. But labour were getting eviscerated in the mainstream media as it was so probably calculated The fallout would have been unacceptable.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2017, 22:18:48
Yup, and a role to which she is wholly unsuited, tbh any other party would have sidelined her after the first clusterfu€k. But labour were getting eviscerated in the mainstream media as it was so probably calculated The fallout would have been unacceptable.

I just love good words. That one has me creaming my pants (Amercian expression)

Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2017, 22:20:13
Yup, and a role to which she is wholly unsuited, tbh any other party would have sidelined her after the first clusterfu€k. But labour were getting eviscerated in the mainstream media as it was so probably calculated The fallout would have been unacceptable.

I just love good words. That one has me creaming my pants (Amercian expression)
I have a signature for you somewhere, Rog, let me find it.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2017, 22:23:34
Yes, here it is:
I used to think that good grammar is important, but now I know that good wine is importanter.  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2017, 22:55:33
Yes, here it is:
I used to think that good grammar is important, but now I know that good wine is importanter.  ;D

I used to think that good wine made you impotent. Then I realized that it's just typos  ::)

Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 June 2017, 23:19:21
If it is a hung parliament, I'm sure Diane will be up and about in the morning with a spring in her step!  ::)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 June 2017, 23:59:24

I just love good words. That one has me creaming my pants (Amercian expression)

I was going to go with the phrase "daily vivisection" but though it was a bit OTT. Problem with going with evisceration, I'm now in danger of repeating myself in describing the UKIP result tonight  :D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 June 2017, 00:01:06
Annihilation would probably suffice ;)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 13 June 2017, 22:57:48



So . . . . . . . .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40268505


My differential diagnosis . . . . She's still a pretty unpleaseant and incompetent individual
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Lincs Robert on 13 June 2017, 23:22:24
She has type 73 diabeties!

Mrs May has type 1 & you don't hear her making excuses.........
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Rods2 on 14 June 2017, 19:36:24
She has type 73 diabeties!

Mrs May has type 1 & you don't hear her making excuses.........

If you live and eat as advised then Type 2 diabetes is easily controlled, if you ignore it and carry on as normal it can catch up with you in lots of nasty ways, including having to switch from tablets to insulin, heart and circulation problems, including lower limb amputation, kidney failure and blindness to name but a few. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: BazaJT on 14 June 2017, 19:44:27
Two of my uncles[my mothers side of the family]died of diabetes back in the late '50s.Maureen had type 2 for a good many years and controlled it as you say with tablets and switching her diet.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 14 June 2017, 19:44:44
To be fair to her, I doubt I could live as advised while campaigning in a general election and holding down a senior cabinet position.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 14 June 2017, 19:56:30
According to her constituents, she is a caring, and very able MP. Maybe she should just do what she is good at.
Let's face it, her physical appearance and her race cloud a lot of people's judgement before she opens her mouth. Then, when she does open it, things go downhill further.  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 June 2017, 20:13:04
People achieve much more with much worse... Hiding behind her illness is an affront to anyone living* with a disability >:(

*By living I mean just that rather than wallowing in a cloud of benefit funded self pity.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 June 2017, 21:00:38
Agreed. Suzanne Evans of UKIP was diagnosed with breast cancer just before the election. She was receiving treatment for it through the election campaign but carried on as normal and only let it be known after the election was done and dusted.
I'm not a big fan of the woman, but it was dignified behaviour.
Abbot wouldn't recognise dignified behaviour if she tripped over it. I have always viewed her as a vile specimen for many reasons.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Bigron on 15 June 2017, 01:23:03
Seconded, Abs - and reasons there certainly are many..... :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: biggriffin on 15 June 2017, 07:52:51
Through out, her previous career at the height of pc within local government, she would regularly, play the race card when the going didn't favour her, or was going wrong the race card or her "tough upbringings" were used to weasal out, but now she cannot use these, she only has a poor medical problem to use.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: RossPhim on 15 June 2017, 09:07:15
People achieve much more with much worse... Hiding behind her illness is an affront to anyone living* with a disability >:(

*By living I mean just that rather than wallowing in a cloud of benefit funded self pity.

Now before I speak, I am not giving my support to her or her party, but as a Type 1 sufferer, I can tell you that when high blood sugar levels (and moreso low blood sugars) hit, it can seriously affect thought processes and judgement.
My wife can spot it a mile away, long before I realise, whats going on.
What gets me is that, if that was the cause of her 'nonesense' then how nobody around her spotted her condition sooner.
 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 June 2017, 09:23:58
Yes, whatever people think of Diane Abbott, it was very poor judgement on the part of the Labour party leadership, letting her carry on when she was clearly struggling.  ::)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: ronnyd on 15 June 2017, 12:20:32
My BIL had diabetes and his "hypos" were not nice to witness.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: TD on 15 June 2017, 17:27:09
My BIL had diabetes and his "hypos" were not nice to witness.

I'm type 2 and cannot get a hypo with the tabs I'm on.....there a fairly new tab and apparently cost the NHS £34/28 tabs  :o

Using the excuse type 2 diabetes is a poor excuse imo, unless its badly managed or she doesn't bother taking her meds or eating correctly.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 15 June 2017, 17:51:22
She certainly doesn't look like she eats correctly.  ::)
If her diabetes is the cause of her talking utter shite, then she must have had it for at least 30 years.  :D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 15 June 2017, 17:57:14
She certainly doesn't look like she eats correctly.  ::)
If her diabetes is the cause of her talking utter shite, then she must have had it for at least 30 years.  :D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: RobG on 15 June 2017, 18:44:43
Type 2 diabetes is, in the vast majority of cases, self-inflicted. Got no time for them. The powers that be should devote as much energy, finance, etc to type 1 IDD`s.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: ronnyd on 15 June 2017, 18:45:06
My BIL had diabetes and his "hypos" were not nice to witness.

I'm type 2 and cannot get a hypo with the tabs I'm on.....there a fairly new tab and apparently cost the NHS £34/28 tabs  :o

Using the excuse type 2 diabetes is a poor excuse imo, unless its badly managed or she doesn't bother taking her meds or eating correctly.
Have just been informed that my BIL was type 1. :-[
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Bigron on 15 June 2017, 20:29:39
That's a very quick way to make a lot of enemies, RobG.

Ron.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 15 June 2017, 20:41:54
That's a very quick way to make a lot of enemies, RobG.

Ron.

Indeed! My mothers East London side of the family were all type 2 diabetics, but given they went through two World Wars, with food supplies always limited, especially with little money, they were never overweight.  They had no cars, so walked everywhere. No fast food either in those days. It would cost my grandfather his toes, then a leg, then his life. My mum escaped the trend of her parents and siblings, but jumped to me, which my doctors have said is not usual. So it is NOT always the fault of the person with type 2 diabetes, but a set of family circumstances.

Therefore why shouldn't the NHS spend money treating me and many others like me. I have never smoked, and don't drink alcohol, but I am relaxed about the NHS spending billions on those suffering from the effects of that life style. As indeed I accept that people involved in dangerous sports, or driving dangerously, or giving birth to more than 3 babies need NHS support.

So those that point fingers at other people and reckon the NHS shouldn't treat them for some peculiar and selfish reason should look in the mirror at themselves! >:( >:( >:(

None of this has anything to do with the arrogance, stupidity, and incompetence of Dianne ruddy Abbot.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Bigron on 15 June 2017, 20:54:09
Hugs to Lizzie!  :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 June 2017, 20:54:52
Not to say, of course, that Rob might have first hand experience of the NHSs unwillingness to address Type 1 diabetes... or rather the consequences of such. :-X
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 15 June 2017, 21:14:43
Hugs to Lizzie!  :y

Ron.

 :-* :-* :-* ;)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 15 June 2017, 21:15:44
Not to say, of course, that Rob might have first hand experience of the NHSs unwillingness to address Type 1 diabetes... or rather the consequences of such. :-X

But he didn't say anything about that ;)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 June 2017, 21:21:45
Not to say, of course, that Rob might have first hand experience of the NHSs unwillingness to address Type 1 diabetes... or rather the consequences of such. :-X

But he didn't say anything about that ;)
And ???

Not everyone treats the forum as an extension of Facebook or Twitter... could be that it's none of our sodding business >:(

 :-X
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Rods2 on 15 June 2017, 21:43:22
That's a very quick way to make a lot of enemies, RobG.

Ron.

Indeed! My mothers East London side of the family were all type 2 diabetics, but given they went through two World Wars, with food supplies always limited, especially with little money, they were never overweight.  They had no cars, so walked everywhere. No fast food either in those days. It would cost my grandfather his toes, then a leg, then his life. My mum escaped the trend of her parents and siblings, but jumped to me, which my doctors have said is not usual. So it is NOT always the fault of the person with type 2 diabetes, but a set of family circumstances.

Therefore why shouldn't the NHS spend money treating me and many others like me. I have never smoked, and don't drink alcohol, but I am relaxed about the NHS spending billions on those suffering from the effects of that life style. As indeed I accept that people involved in dangerous sports, or driving dangerously, or giving birth to more than 3 babies need NHS support.

So those that point fingers at other people and reckon the NHS shouldn't treat them for some peculiar and selfish reason should look in the mirror at themselves! >:( >:( >:(

None of this has anything to do with the arrogance, stupidity, and incompetence of Dianne ruddy Abbot.

Although type 2 diabetes can be self-inflicted and is much more common in very overweight/obese people. 10-20% are not as you say overweight at all. There is mounting evidence that gut fauna caused by bad types of bacteria can lead to type 2. There are also other things being looked with one being modern wheat, which was introduced in the 1960's and is completely different to what we have eaten for 1000's of years. Modern wheat is much higher in gluten, which is why gluten intolerance is much more common than it used to be. There are also many other changes in modern diets with their effects gradually being studied and understood Our understanding of fat and associated good/bad foods is regularly updated as doctors and scientists learn more.

The good news is that much progress is being made in curing diabetes, especially type 1 through the use of stem cells, with some initial trials now taking place. :y
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 15 June 2017, 23:57:05
Type 2 diabetes is, in the vast majority of cases, self-inflicted. Got no time for them. The powers that be should devote as much energy, finance, etc to type 1 IDD`s.

As (on some level) is almost everything that lands one in hospital. Overweight? Drink alcohol? Smoke? Take less exercise than you should? Sorry chum, no NHS money for you. Total 'dangle berries', go down that road and you only end up treating healthy people.

For me, either treat everyone, free, at the point of need, or pack the whole thing up and treat nobody. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary choices. 
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 June 2017, 00:01:06
Type 2 diabetes is, in the vast majority of cases, self-inflicted. Got no time for them. The powers that be should devote as much energy, finance, etc to type 1 IDD`s.

As (on some level) is almost everything that lands one in hospital. Overweight? Drink alcohol? Smoke? Take less exercise than you should? Sorry chum, no NHS money for you. Total 'dangle berries', go down that road and you only treat healthy people.

For me, either treat everyone, free, at the point of need, or pack the whole thing up and treat nobody. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary choices.

I think you've unwittingly saved the NHS Jimmy, and you should have stood as a Tory MP!  :-X  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 June 2017, 10:20:09
Healthy people would never need treating...

As for arbitrary decision making... it's no different to throwing money at a consistent group of people only to then deny more suitable treatment to a contributory member of society because it costs five pence more and the budget won't support it :-X
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: omega2018 on 16 June 2017, 18:50:37
it's no different to throwing money at a consistent group of people only to then deny more suitable treatment to a contributory member of society because it costs five pence more and the budget won't support it :-X

 ???
lucky for you the dementia tax got binned ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 16 June 2017, 19:33:15
it's no different to throwing money at a consistent group of people only to then deny more suitable treatment to a contributory member of society because it costs five pence more and the budget won't support it :-X

 ???
lucky for you the dementia tax got binned ;D

Touchè  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 June 2017, 16:38:26
Happy to report that the wonderful Diane has fully recovered and has now returned to her role as shadow home secretary.
Her country needed her.  ::)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Mister Rog on 20 June 2017, 09:38:24

Todays news:
Diane Abbott: "I'm back to fighting fitness"



That was quick for a brain transplant . . . . . .
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 June 2017, 09:59:10
We can only be thankful that the voice of reason has returned to the Labour party.  :y
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 June 2017, 10:37:46

Todays news:
Diane Abbott: "I'm back to fighting fitness"



That was quick for a brain transplant installation . . . . . .

FTFY
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: RobG on 20 June 2017, 11:46:08
Not to say, of course, that Rob might have first hand experience of the NHSs unwillingness to address Type 1 diabetes... or rather the consequences of such. :-X

Nail on the head
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: RobG on 20 June 2017, 11:53:48
Type 2 diabetes is, in the vast majority of cases, self-inflicted. Got no time for them. The powers that be should devote as much energy, finance, etc to type 1 IDD`s.

As (on some level) is almost everything that lands one in hospital. Overweight? Drink alcohol? Smoke? Take less exercise than you should? Sorry chum, no NHS money for you. Total 'dangle berries', go down that road and you only end up treating healthy people.

For me, either treat everyone, free, at the point of need, or pack the whole thing up and treat nobody. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary choices.

My post;
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Type 2 diabetes is, in the vast majority of cases, self-inflicted. Got no time for them. The powers that be should devote as much energy, finance, etc to type 1 IDD`s.

Where have I mentioned that they shouldn`t be treated????? The point I was making, which you have obviously overlooked (or missed due to the height of your horse) was for the media/medical establishment/ do-gooders etc to devote as much coverage pertaining to Type 1, notwithstanding other ailments, chronic or acute.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 June 2017, 12:32:20
On a more general political note. I'm currently watching Daily politics on BBC2, and Digby Jones is showing Labours Barry Gardiner to be the ignorant moron that he really is. Its quite painful but very enjoyable to watch.  :)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 22 June 2017, 11:20:58
Our Diane is speaking in the house right now. Seems fully recovered  ::)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Bigron on 22 June 2017, 12:37:22
Yeees, funny that....... ::)

Ron.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Bigron on 22 June 2017, 12:39:41
Um, please don't think that was meant as cynical disbelief - er, not for a moment :P

Ron.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 June 2017, 22:48:13
That women is vile, and that's her good point.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 June 2017, 23:27:40
True.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 23 June 2017, 10:43:39
In other news, interview with Bo Jo on radio 4 yesterday and he clearly has no idea what's in the tories' queen speech on several topics, and just tries to bungle his way through. Strangely enough my media feeds, the tv and the newspapers are not full of this today.  ::)

Wonder if it's because he isn't in labour government, isn't black, isn't a woman, or all 3? Alternatively, perhaps everyone missed it ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Bigron on 23 June 2017, 10:51:32
No, it's just not typical of Boris; he is usually in possession of all the facts and well briefed, despite his deliberately clownish persona - which he has been too convincing with - and he should drop now.....

"I know you all, and will awhile uphold
The unyoked humor of your idleness.
Yet herein will I imitate the sun,
Who doth permit the base contagious clouds
To smother up his beauty from the world,
That, when he please again to be himself,
Being wanted, he may be more wondered at
By breaking through the foul and ugly mists
Of vapors that did seem to strangle him."

As true now as when Will wrote it!

Ron.
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 June 2017, 11:55:12
In other news, interview with Bo Jo on radio 4 yesterday and he clearly has no idea what's in the tories' queen speech on several topics, and just tries to bungle his way through. Strangely enough my media feeds, the tv and the newspapers are not full of this today.  ::)

Wonder if it's because he isn't in labour government, isn't black, isn't a woman, or all 3? Alternatively, perhaps everyone missed it ;D

The reason the media outlets aren't full of it today is that they were full of it yesterday. They were on the story like rats up a drainpipe, almost before he had finished speaking.  ;)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: STEMO on 23 June 2017, 12:18:39
In other news, interview with Bo Jo on radio 4 yesterday and he clearly has no idea what's in the tories' queen speech on several topics, and just tries to bungle his way through. Strangely enough my media feeds, the tv and the newspapers are not full of this today.  ::)

Wonder if it's because he isn't in labour government, isn't black, isn't a woman, or all 3? Alternatively, perhaps everyone missed it ;D
Yes, Jimmy, that's why I started a thread on it.  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 June 2017, 13:05:25
In other news, interview with Bo Jo on radio 4 yesterday and he clearly has no idea what's in the tories' queen speech on several topics, and just tries to bungle his way through. Strangely enough my media feeds, the tv and the newspapers are not full of this today.  ::)

Wonder if it's because he isn't in labour government, isn't black, isn't a woman, or all 3? Alternatively, perhaps everyone missed it ;D
Yes, Jimmy, that's why I started a thread on it.  ;D

Jimmy was hungover!  ;D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 23 June 2017, 16:12:22
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Yes, Jimmy, that's why I started a thread on it.  ;D

Ah yes, just been back to look.  :y I was indeed, not on top form on Wednesday.  ::)
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 June 2017, 18:37:31
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Yes, Jimmy, that's why I started a thread on it.  ;D

Ah yes, just been back to look.  :y I was indeed, not on top form on Wednesday.  ::)
Jestes mysz :D
Title: Re: Diane abbot
Post by: Viral_Jim on 23 June 2017, 19:17:02
You be quiet you.