Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: atann on 13 June 2017, 01:26:43
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Observing some of the comments on this forum, mine mists up terribly in the winter. If the climate isn't working, as it is not one mine, for demist. Is this a common problem with the Omega?
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If by climate not working, you mean the aircon... then yes, it will mist up terribly.
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Keeping the windscreen impeccably clean on the inside will help.
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check the vents in the boot are clear - drivers side bottom of first aid box cubby hole
wipe the screen with a mild detergent solution or buy the same thing - anti mist screen wipes.
fix your air con
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check the vents in the boot are clear - drivers side bottom of first aid box cubby hole
wipe the screen with a mild detergent solution or buy the same thing - anti mist screen wipes.
fix your air con
Thanks, never checked that. Will update.
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spoke today to an aircon specialist. they told me that not having working aircon shouldnt cause any issues and the car demist should behave just like any ordinary car that doesnt have aircon.is ther any peculiarities in the omega system that causes the misting up ? just curious
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spoke today to an aircon specialist. they told me that not having working aircon shouldnt cause any issues and the car demist should behave just like any ordinary car that doesnt have aircon.is ther any peculiarities in the omega system that causes the misting up ? just curious
Yup, shit, lazy design... ie poor air distribution which relies heavily on working airconditioning to function acceptably ;)
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Occasionally the recirculation flap on my car will get confused and stick in the recirc position.
When that happens the screen mists up in moments. >:(
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
Good point well presented ;)
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when i first got mine it was hard to demist but refitting the lower plastic arms that had come off and a couple of matrix flushes got it working fine.never had a car with aircon so never too bothered about getting mine working.all been fine since
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
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Passenger side scuttle :y
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
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90% of the time its the pollen filter that does this.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, drain scuttle, pull out Pollen Filter.
Missed a step...
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2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, drain scuttle, pull out Pollen Filter.
Missed a step...
[/quote]Hmm...., ok, open Drivers Door to gain access to Bonnet Release Handle, :)
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2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, drain scuttle, pull out Pollen Filter.
Missed a step...
Hmm...., ok, open Drivers Door to gain access to Bonnet Release Handle, :)
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Only reason the pollen filter might be wet ;)
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Observing some of the comments on this forum, mine mists up terribly in the winter. If the climate isn't working, as it is not one mine, for demist. Is this a common problem with the Omega?
The ventilation and demist system on the Omega only works if the aircon is working in my opinion. Fixed it on my 3 as none worked when purchased and then you can just leave it in auto, see where your going and be comfortable at all times.
Steve
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spoke today to an aircon specialist. they told me that not having working aircon shouldnt cause any issues and the car demist should behave just like any ordinary car that doesnt have aircon.is ther any peculiarities in the omega system that causes the misting up ? just curious
Your A/C specialist doesn't understand A/C.
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the two omegas i have had work ok without aircon for demisting. both had ac but remember some migs don't have as standard.
only exception is if is cold and raining and/or a car full of people then misting can be a problem sometimes. air con fixes it pretty instantly but i am slightly loath to use it as once its been switched on you have to leave it on or the cars mists up twice as bad as the air con sheds the moisture it has trapped.
if you use anti-mist wipes, keep the rear vents clear and the pollen filter dry it is ok most of the time.
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but remember some migs don't have as standard.
Early GLS had a choice of sunroof or A/C (with the other being an option). All others had A/C as standard.
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the two omegas i have had work ok without aircon for demisting. both had ac but remember some migs don't have as standard.
only exception is if is cold and raining and/or a car full of people then misting can be a problem sometimes. air con fixes it pretty instantly but i am slightly loath to use it as once its been switched on you have to leave it on or the cars mists up twice as bad as the air con sheds the moisture it has trapped.
if you use anti-mist wipes, keep the rear vents clear and the pollen filter dry it is ok most of the time.
Emphasis on most...
The Omega was repeatedly berated for having a poor ventilation system by reviewers of the time. This isn't news.
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Indeed, it was always commented on that it had generally poor ventilation. So the systems do need to be tip top and clear to work.
Personally, in over 14yrs of owning an Omega, I've never really seen it as a big issue though...
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the two omegas i have had work ok without aircon for demisting. both had ac but remember some migs don't have as standard.
only exception is if is cold and raining and/or a car full of people then misting can be a problem sometimes. air con fixes it pretty instantly but i am slightly loath to use it as once its been switched on you have to leave it on or the cars mists up twice as bad as the air con sheds the moisture it has trapped.
if you use anti-mist wipes, keep the rear vents clear and the pollen filter dry it is ok most of the time.
Emphasis on most...
The Omega was repeatedly berated for having a poor ventilation system by reviewers of the time. This isn't news.
It's adequate when all working including the air conditioning I would say - mind you I have been amazed how much better the system in the Leaf is even though it's battery powered.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
Cheers, I'll check that. No idea when it was changed😀
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
Cheers, I'll check that. No idea when it was changed😀
And check the drain/gromnet at the bottom is clear .... i.e. is there a small pond at the bottom?
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If I change it, is it the normal filter or charcoal from Euro Car Parts?
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Charcoal for all climate equipped Omegas, plain for the rest.
They are interchangeable but charcoal one more effective for smells etc ;)
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If I change it, is it the normal filter or charcoal from Euro Car Parts?
You need the charcoal filter for your 2.6V6 :y
GM specify the charcoal filter for facelift cars, but the standard filter for pfl and mfl irrespective of climate fitted or not
HTH
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If I change it, is it the normal filter or charcoal from Euro Car Parts?
You need the charcoal filter for your 2.6V6 :y
GM specify the charcoal filter for facelift cars, but the standard filter for pfl and mfl irrespective of climate fitted or not
HTH
Charcoal for all climate equipped Omegas, plain for the rest.
Thanks guys.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
The filter looks dirty. There is a wire going across it, how do I remove the filter? With a flat head screw driver?
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They will look grey from new.
Fold flag at top of plastic reframe towards you and pull our vertically.
Steve
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Charcoal for all climate equipped Omegas, plain for the rest.
They are interchangeable but charcoal one more effective for smells etc ;)
Not quite, charcoal for all FL Omegas, plain for PFL/MFL.
No issues using more expensive charcoal in older cars, but do not use cheaper plain filter in newer cars :y. So NOT interchangeable, universally.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
The filter looks dirty. There is a wire going across it, how do I remove the filter? With a flat head screw driver?
Don't touch what may look like clips at the edges - they aren't they are a solid moulding.
Grab top edge of filter, and pull top edge towards you. The filter will deform, and pop out from those "clips", then lift out.
Refit is slot bottom of filter in, then bend the top edge of the filter, and tuck the top corners behind the "clips", and push the top middle in last. Filter's shape will hold in. Refit is obvious once you start :y
The filter has an airflow arrow on the top, this should point towards the back of the car.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
The filter looks dirty. There is a wire going across it, how do I remove the filter? With a flat head screw driver?
Don't touch what may look like clips at the edges - they aren't they are a solid moulding.
Grab top edge of filter, and pull top edge towards you. The filter will deform, and pop out from those "clips", then lift out.
Refit is slot bottom of filter in, then bend the top edge of the filter, and tuck the top corners behind the "clips", and push the top middle in last. Filter's shape will hold in. Refit is obvious once you start :y
The filter has an airflow arrow on the top, this should point towards the back of the car.
Cheers guys. Get it tomorrow, will update. Want to change it before the aircon is regased.
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A wet / damp Pollen Filter doesn't help.
How do you check that? Where is it located?
2 min job, lift bonnet, NS on the scuttle panel, lift flap, pull out Pollen Filter.
The filter looks dirty. There is a wire going across it, how do I remove the filter? With a flat head screw driver?
Don't touch what may look like clips at the edges - they aren't they are a solid moulding.
Grab top edge of filter, and pull top edge towards you. The filter will deform, and pop out from those "clips", then lift out.
Refit is slot bottom of filter in, then bend the top edge of the filter, and tuck the top corners behind the "clips", and push the top middle in last. Filter's shape will hold in. Refit is obvious once you start :y
The filter has an airflow arrow on the top, this should point towards the back of the car.
Just fitted the new one, with the arrows pointing down?
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Arrow should point in towards the dash, technically slightly upwards ;)
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Arrow should point in towards the dash, technically slightly upwards ;)
Just checked, that's what I've done😀 The old one was filthy, no idea when it was last changed. Hovered out all the leave and cobwebs, the climate control should hopefully work well now, after the air con is regassed.
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Don't touch what may look like clips at the edges - they aren't they are a solid moulding.
Grab top edge of filter, and pull top edge towards you. The filter will deform, and pop out from those "clips", then lift out.
Refit is slot bottom of filter in, then bend the top edge of the filter, and tuck the top corners behind the "clips", and push the top middle in last. Filter's shape will hold in. Refit is obvious once you start :y
:o I'm shocked anyone would say that let alone an experienced admin. :o they must have been changing pollens filters wrongly for years ::).
they are clips and they do unclip, rotating outwards, away from the filter face. then pull back the filter a few mm, slide it out, no need to deform it or bend the new one ::), slide new one in locating it at the bottom, then the clips click back in, pushing the filter into place. simple :y
looks like you learn something new every day on oof. even if you don't agree with it ;).