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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lagondanet on 06 July 2017, 10:23:19
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Interesting piece,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08wp6hd
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They are dead keen on blood tests here in Spain. When you go to see your doctor the first thing is often to have a blood test. Then you go back a few days later and see what is wrong!....... I think they must have a very efficient and cheap testing system- about 58 items listed. You get to keep the paper results too as they are also electronically stored against your name.
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I went to see the doc this week to ask for a referral letter regarding my knee. He immediately checked my blood pressure, heart etc and booked me in for blood tests, ECG, urine test and god know what else.
All I wanted him to do was write a fackin letter. Then he wonders why I haven't been there for 10 years. ::) ;D
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I went to see the doc this week to ask for a referral letter regarding my knee. He immediately checked my blood pressure, heart etc and booked me in for blood tests, ECG, urine test and god know what else.
All I wanted him to do was write a fackin letter. Then he wonders why I haven't been there for 10 years. ::) ;D
Do what he/she says. You've got a good GP :y
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First time I ever met him. He looked about 14. :o ;D
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usually theres no substitute for experience but new young doctors these days do seem to be very thorough before giving a diagnosis which is no bad thing in my book.
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Guy at work felt ill beginning of the year put off going to see the doctor got admitted to hospital at the beginning of June did all the tests found he was riddled with Cancer died on Sunday only 52 , so take heed look after yourself.
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I try to get bloods done every so often but then again hypochondria is the only thing I haven't had ;D
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I try to get bloods done every so often but then again hypochondria is the only thing I haven't had ;D
It used to be that people went to the quack to cure something you had. These days they check for things you don't have.
Just perfect for hyperchondriacs.
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First time I ever met him. He looked about 14. :o ;D
Young doctors are far better than older more experienced doctors for two reasons.
1. They are still enthusiastic about the job and not jaded old buggers who believe they have seen it all. Doctors have a very high suicide rate.
2. They are up to speed with modern techniques and treatments. Most older doctors are way behind in this respect. I'm sure some of them believe that using 'leeches' is the latest thing.
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First time I ever met him. He looked about 14. :o ;D
Young doctors are far better than older more experienced doctors for two reasons.
1. They are still enthusiastic about the job and not jaded old buggers who believe they have seen it all. Doctors have a very high suicide rate.
2. They are up to speed with modern techniques and treatments. Most older doctors are way behind in this respect. I'm sure some of them believe that using 'leeches' is the latest thing.
A couple of years ago my diabetic nurse changed my prescription.....after a few days I realised the new tab wasn't working, my blood sugar had shot up....so I phoned for an appointment with nursey to be told she had gone on holiday!
Great! So I was booked in to see a doctor....appointment time and I saw a newly qualified dr ..... didn't inspire confidence when she spent 9 mins of the 10 mins I was in, looking up in medical books, what the tablets I was on, did and when I suggested I go back to taking the old tablets, again she had to look up what they did also.......She agreed I should go back to the old tabs and book an appointment as soon as nursey came back of hols....
Wish I hadn't had bothered to go and see the doc, tbh and just reverted back to the old tabs.......
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First time I ever met him. He looked about 14. :o ;D
Young doctors are far better than older more experienced doctors for two reasons.
1. They are still enthusiastic about the job and not jaded old buggers who believe they have seen it all. Doctors have a very high suicide rate.
2. They are up to speed with modern techniques and treatments. Most older doctors are way behind in this respect. I'm sure some of them believe that using 'leeches' is the latest thing.
I've heard rumours that in some parts of Lincolnshire they do indeed still use leeches on patients with regular cases of gonorrhea! :o ::) ;D
It's that right M'lud? ??? :)
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I keep on receiving offers from the NHS to carryout a yearly Bowel Cancer Test.
The trouble is they expect me to collect my poo and send samples in special packs through the post; sure I am going to do that!
I'll take the risk that you very much! :o :o :o
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I keep on receiving offers from the NHS to carryout a yearly Bowel Cancer Test.
The trouble is they expect me to collect my poo and send samples in special packs through the post; sure I am going to do that!
I'll take the risk that you very much! :o :o :o
If you did get bowel cancer you'd feel pretty daft when sat in the chair for an afternoon having your regular chemo session, when laying down on the bench of the radiotherapy machine every day for 6 weeks, and when being wheeled into the operating theatre to lose most of your colon resulting in wearing a colostomy bag for the rest of your life...... Just because you couldn't be bothered to collect a bit of poo and send it off in the post! :-X :(
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Re bowel cancer tests , I am sent an annual test kit from the national screening agency . It's a simple stool smear sample and they even sent a pair of disposable gloves in the kit. I'm not sure if Bowel cancer is more prevalent in males but frankly I'd advice you to have the test done .
Re blood tests . There is no NHS in this simple little country so after paying my € 40 to see a doctor I have to pay another €25 to have the ,almost deriguour, strongly advised blood sample taken and tested .
I attended my doctor last week to have a cat bite examined . I agreed to the blood test as my hand was very badly swollen and painful to touch. When I returned the following day for my second of four antibiotic injection ( € 11 each ) I asked for the results and was told " I don't have them at hand but they were all clear".
I honestly don't know if the blood was analysed .
Value your NHS .......
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I keep on receiving offers from the NHS to carryout a yearly Bowel Cancer Test.
The trouble is they expect me to collect my poo and send samples in special packs through the post; sure I am going to do that!
I'll take the risk that you very much! :o :o :o
If you steel yourself and do it , it's not that bad. I put it off, but then did it. It's very nice when you get a letter saying that all is well :y
The one I did you didn't need to actually collect any poo, just scrape a wooden stick in it and smear it onto a self sealing card, done three times on three different poos. Did everyone enjoy their breakfast this morning ! ::)
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I keep on receiving offers from the NHS to carryout a yearly Bowel Cancer Test.
The trouble is they expect me to collect my poo and send samples in special packs through the post; sure I am going to do that!
I'll take the risk that you very much! :o :o :o
If you steel yourself and do it , it's not that bad. I put it off, but then did it. It's very nice when you get a letter saying that all is well :y
The one I did you didn't need to actually collect any poo, just scrape a wooden stick in it and smear it onto a self sealing card, done three times on three different poos. Did everyone enjoy their breakfast this morning ! ::)
No,mine tasted like shit :o :D :D ;)
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I keep on receiving offers from the NHS to carryout a yearly Bowel Cancer Test.
The trouble is they expect me to collect my poo and send samples in special packs through the post; sure I am going to do that!
I'll take the risk that you very much! :o :o :o
If you steel yourself and do it , it's not that bad. I put it off, but then did it. It's very nice when you get a letter saying that all is well :y
The one I did you didn't need to actually collect any poo, just scrape a wooden stick in it and smear it onto a self sealing card, done three times on three different poos. Did everyone enjoy their breakfast this morning ! ::)
The test is better than ending up with a bag or in a box six feet under .
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Re bowel cancer tests , I am sent an annual test kit from the national screening agency . It's a simple stool smear sample and they even sent a pair of disposable gloves in the kit. I'm not sure if Bowel cancer is more prevalent in males but frankly I'd advice you to have the test done .
Re blood tests . There is no NHS in this simple little country so after paying my € 40 to see a doctor I have to pay another €25 to have the ,almost deriguour, strongly advised blood sample taken and tested .
I attended my doctor last week to have a cat bite examined . I agreed to the blood test as my hand was very badly swollen and painful to touch. When I returned the following day for my second of four antibiotic injection ( € 11 each ) I asked for the results and was told " I don't have them at hand but they were all clear".
I honestly don't know if the blood was analysed .
Value your NHS .......
You got to see a doctor, presumably quickly, for very little cost.. I think you may have the better deal, there.
If I tried that here my hand would have dropped off or healed itself, one or the other, long before an appointment with the GP came around.
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I keep on receiving offers from the NHS to carryout a yearly Bowel Cancer Test.
The trouble is they expect me to collect my poo and send samples in special packs through the post; sure I am going to do that!
I'll take the risk that you very much! :o :o :o
If you did get bowel cancer you'd feel pretty daft when sat in the chair for an afternoon having your regular chemo session, when laying down on the bench of the radiotherapy machine every day for 6 weeks, and when being wheeled into the operating theatre to lose most of your colon resulting in wearing a colostomy bag for the rest of your life...... Just because you couldn't be bothered to collect a bit of poo and send it off in the post! :-X :(
Seconded...
Besides, your shit doesn't stink, so can't see what the issue is...
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I'm 64 and already had a very full life with tremendous experiences, including a number of near death ones.
I have learnt that when I reach 'that date and time' God has selected there is no argument and it is fine, I will go laughing all the way! 8) 8) 8)
What will be will be! That is how I have lived my life. ;)
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I'm 64 and already had a very full life with tremendous experiences, including a number of near death ones.
I have learnt that when I reach 'that date and time' God has selected there is no argument and it is fine, I will go laughing all the way! 8) 8) 8)
What will be will be! That is how I have lived my life. ;)
There's nothing to laugh at about months and years of gruelling and painful cancer treatments Lizzie, and I find your attitude incredibly stupid IMHO. :(
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I'm 64 and already had a very full life with tremendous experiences, including a number of near death ones.
I have learnt that when I reach 'that date and time' God has selected there is no argument and it is fine, I will go laughing all the way! 8) 8) 8)
What will be will be! That is how I have lived my life. ;)
There's nothing to laugh at about months and years of gruelling and painful cancer treatments Lizzie, and I find your attitude incredibly stupid IMHO. :(
Agree fully I have been on this forum for about 7 years and that is without doubt the most stupid comment I have ever read.
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We have just moved to somerset and i needed my headache tablet perscription renewed. I rang the local doctors to see if i could get seen, answer yes come in tomorrow but will need a urine sample when you see the doctor.
I saw the doctor who did a dip test and said you have blood in your wee. Please do another sample and we can send it off for tests. Thats back now got a phone call from my new doctor blood still they and i now have to
Go into hospital for one of those tube/camera things stuck up my w...... . Morral of the story whether the doctor is new, old or in my case jyst a different doctor listen to them and act on it.
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We have just moved to somerset and i needed my headache tablet perscription renewed. I rang the local doctors to see if i could get seen, answer yes come in tomorrow but will need a urine sample when you see the doctor.
I saw the doctor who did a dip test and said you have blood in your wee. Please do another sample and we can send it off for tests. Thats back now got a phone call from my new doctor blood still they and i now have to
Go into hospital for one of those tube/camera things stuck up my w...... . Morral of the story whether the doctor is new, old or in my case jyst a different doctor listen to them and act on it.
seems like your doctor went to the same school of diagnostics as most dodgy mechanics:
Mechanic - the EML is on, the ECU must be oppsed.
Doctor - patient has headaches, stick a camera up his arse
Hope you get some relief soon :y
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I'm 64 and already had a very full life with tremendous experiences, including a number of near death ones.
I have learnt that when I reach 'that date and time' God has selected there is no argument and it is fine, I will go laughing all the way! 8) 8) 8)
What will be will be! That is how I have lived my life. ;)
Fair play to you Lizzie, it`s all about enjoying the time you have on this planet not how long, as a mate of mine used to say "I`m here for a good time not a long Time" :y
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I'm 64 and already had a very full life with tremendous experiences, including a number of near death ones.
I have learnt that when I reach 'that date and time' God has selected there is no argument and it is fine, I will go laughing all the way! 8) 8) 8)
What will be will be! That is how I have lived my life. ;)
Fair play to you Lizzie, it`s all about enjoying the time you have on this planet not how long, as a mate of mine used to say "I`m here for a good time not a long Time" :y
Exactly right, but some on here find it "stupid" not to have the check up. Why? It is up to me and my beliefs! My body is wearing out like everyone else's, and do I want to live a long life that may be bed ridden, or just needing so much support that just won't be there?
My great aunt lived to 95, and hated it! Both parents died at 88, weak and suffering from illness, waiting for death like the aunt. I will live a full life until the moment my body breaks, and then I will go in peace and dignity, not as a pain ravaged, helpless, old wreck. Some people it seems don't like my ideas on that; bloody tough! I have faith, and that powers me on and cannot wait to fly away from the evils of this world when the time is right.
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I'm 64 and already had a very full life with tremendous experiences, including a number of near death ones.
I have learnt that when I reach 'that date and time' God has selected there is no argument and it is fine, I will go laughing all the way! 8) 8) 8)
What will be will be! That is how I have lived my life. ;)
There's nothing to laugh at about months and years of gruelling and painful cancer treatments Lizzie, and I find your attitude incredibly stupid IMHO. :(
.........as my post above, and for the record my mother had cancer and my father had 3 massive strokes. I am NOT being "incredibly stupid", just very calculating, accepting the inevitable in a dignified way in line with my faith.
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Perhaps it's just fear.
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Perhaps it's just fear.
On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable probably fear it more.
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I couldn't give a monkeys when I go as long as its quick. I would rather die in my sleep tonight than have a long, slow, lonely decline into decrepitude like my old Dad did.
He didn't really want to carry on after my mum died in 2000, but he lived until 2014, despite a serious stroke and then dementia.
He was as brave and dignified as he could be in the circumstances, but it was heartbreaking to see the miserable life he had to lead, when I could remember very clearly the very strong proud man he had been. :'(
An aunt of mine in Oz had cancer, and due to the fact her husband was an eminent doctor, she consulted his contacts in the medical profession about the different stages she would go through.
When it got to a certain point she went to her apartment in Sydney, sat in a nice bubble bath, drank a bottle of Champagne, and took a huge overdose of tablets.
She told her family that she wasn't going to let the cancer decide when the end would come. She would take that one thing away from its control.
I didn't like the woman one bit, but I respected her highly for that.
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A late-friend of mine missed his poo test as he had just moved at the time and it was sent to his old address and by the time the bowl cancer was diagnosed it was followed by a major operation to remove much of his bowl, unfortunately, the cancer had spread to other parts of his body and killed him. There is no good way to go but cancer is definitely one of the worse ones. :(
India has the highest RTA and fatality rate in the world, where they believe God has pre-ordained their lifespan, which normally coincidently coincides with overtaking on single-carriageway roads through blind bends, over the brow of a hill etc., etc. Lizzie why don't you put a blindfold on and play chicken on the M1, if it is not your time to die what could possibly go wrong. :o :o :o
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Perhaps it's just fear.
On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable probably fear it more.
Exactly right :y :y
How can it be a case of "I,m all right Jack" when my decision affects no one else? I make the comments I make because I care about the young. How the heck can a minority young population in future (10 years time?) pay for the medical treatment of a majority of 70 plus when already the NHS is on the verge of collapsing? Sending out, at great cost kits to collect poo from my age group, and specifically me, I cannot justify.
As I repeatedly say I know my time will be up when God decides, and that is good enough for me. If some want to try and postpone the inevitable then that is fine, but personally I do not want to become a burden on society by trying to do so when, whatever we do, the clock of God is set like it was for our birth. I have no fear of that whatsoever, and I can say that having been so close to death on a number of occasions.
It is my choice and no business of others.
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A late-friend of mine missed his poo test as he had just moved at the time and it was sent to his old address and by the time the bowl cancer was diagnosed it was followed by a major operation to remove much of his bowl, unfortunately, the cancer had spread to other parts of his body and killed him. There is no good way to go but cancer is definitely one of the worse ones. :(
India has the highest RTA and fatality rate in the world, where they believe God has pre-ordained their lifespan, which normally coincidently coincides with overtaking on single-carriageway roads through blind bends, over the brow of a hill etc., etc. Lizzie why don't you put a blindfold on and play chicken on the M1, if it is not your time to die what could possibly go wrong. :o :o :o
Because I do not deliberately set out to test God. However, as I have repeatedly said, I have had a number of near death experiences but I was pulled back by "something" every time. Spiritual experiences have also peppered my life, as they did with my late mother, and have reassured me of the existence of a power far greater than we can imagine, even three times reaching out physically to me when completely unexpected.
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Perhaps it's just fear.
On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable probably fear it more.
Exactly right :y :y
How can it be a case of "I,m all right Jack" when my decision affects no one else? I make the comments I make because I care about the young. How the heck can a minority young population in future (10 years time?) pay for the medical treatment of a majority of 70 plus when already the NHS is on the verge of collapsing? Sending out, at great cost kits to collect poo from my age group, and specifically me, I cannot justify.
As I repeatedly say I know my time will be up when God decides, and that is good enough for me. If some want to try and postpone the inevitable then that is fine, but personally I do not want to become a burden on society by trying to do so when, whatever we do, the clock of God is set like it was for our birth. I have no fear of that whatsoever, and I can say that having been so close to death on a number of occasions.
It is my choice and no business of others.
At great cost? ;D
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your okbehaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Perhaps it's just fear.
On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable probably fear it more.
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Sorry should have explained perhaps better, not fearing death more " white coat syndrome" the fear of hospitals doctors needles etc , personally I would find it difficult to fear something I have never experienced never had a near death experience but you never know ! As for God I gave up on that years ago.
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So did I. Seen far too much suffering of innocent people, and seen wicked bastids lead a charmed life.
Went to church 6 times a week until I was old enough to decide to stop. Since then, have only been reluctantly for weddings and funerals.
I have been extremely accident prone since I was old enough to walk, and have had several near death experiences, and seen the inside of too many ambulances and hospitals. It hasn't made me think about religion any more though.
Having said that, I don't have a problem with people who want to be religious. If it gets them through the day, its fine with me, as long as they don't try to force me or the rest of society to abide by their beliefs.
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Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your okbehaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...
Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.
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Perhaps it's just fear.
On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable probably fear it more.
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Sorry should have explained perhaps better, not fearing death more " white coat syndrome" the fear of hospitals doctors needles etc , personally I would find it difficult to fear something I have never experienced never had a near death experience but you never know ! As for God I gave up on that years ago.
That is something I have never feared. In fact I enjoy watching my blood being taken and love anything medical. I find a surgeon working on a patient who is opened up fascinating, and if I had my life again would aim to be in that profession. :y :y
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I try to avoid the doctor like the plague.
I never get invited for a check up or 'well man' clinic of any description.
No stool smears, no prostrate checks, no cardiac tests, no blood tests (with the exception of 470 ML donations which they would presumably let me know if anything was amiss)
Perhaps my doctor (I have no idea who he is) thinks I'm already dead.
At one point in the last couple of years I was due for a check up but if memory serves they phoned to cancel.
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Just remembered. I had my appendix removed a couple of years ago but went directly to the hospital. I thought it was simply a case of 'bad guts' that I couldn't shift. I was in agony.
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So did I. Seen far too much suffering of innocent people, and seen wicked bastids lead a charmed life.
Went to church 6 times a week until I was old enough to decide to stop. Since then, have only been reluctantly for weddings and funerals.
I have been extremely accident prone since I was old enough to walk, and have had several near death experiences, and seen the inside of too many ambulances and hospitals. It hasn't made me think about religion any more though.
Having said that, I don't have a problem with people who want to be religious. If it gets them through the day, its fine with me, as long as they don't try to force me or the rest of society to abide by their beliefs.
You'll burn in the fires of hell when your time comes. ;D
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An aunt of mine in Oz had cancer, and due to the fact her husband was an eminent doctor, she consulted his contacts in the medical profession about the different stages she would go through.
When it got to a certain point she went to her apartment in Sydney, sat in a nice bubble bath, drank a bottle of Champagne, and took a huge overdose of tablets.
She told her family that she wasn't going to let the cancer decide when the end would come. She would take that one thing away from its control.
I didn't like the woman one bit, but I respected her highly for that.
Atta girl, good on her. I hope it was a really expensive Champagne bought on a credit card that she wouldn't have to pay.
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An aunt of mine in Oz had cancer, and due to the fact her husband was an eminent doctor, she consulted his contacts in the medical profession about the different stages she would go through.
When it got to a certain point she went to her apartment in Sydney, sat in a nice bubble bath, drank a bottle of Champagne, and took a huge overdose of tablets.
She told her family that she wasn't going to let the cancer decide when the end would come. She would take that one thing away from its control.
I didn't like the woman one bit, but I respected her highly for that.
Atta girl, good on her. I hope it was a really expensive Champagne bought on a credit card that she wouldn't have to pay.
Wouldn't like to have been the one that found her.