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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #30 on: 08 July 2017, 18:58:34 »

Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...

Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.




Perhaps it's just fear.

On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable  probably fear it more.
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #31 on: 08 July 2017, 19:06:54 »

I couldn't give a monkeys when I go as long as its quick. I would rather die in my sleep tonight than have a long, slow, lonely decline into decrepitude like my old Dad did.
He didn't really want to carry on after my mum died in 2000, but he lived until 2014, despite a serious stroke and then dementia.
He was as brave and dignified as he could be in the circumstances, but it was heartbreaking to see the miserable life he had to lead, when I could remember very clearly the very strong proud man he had been.  :'(
An aunt of mine in Oz had cancer, and due to the fact her husband was an eminent doctor, she consulted his contacts in the medical profession about the different stages she would go through.
When it got to a certain point she went to her apartment in Sydney, sat in a nice bubble bath, drank a bottle of Champagne, and took a huge overdose of tablets.
She told her family that she wasn't going to let the cancer decide when the end would come. She would take that one thing away from its control.
I didn't like the woman one bit, but I respected her highly for that.
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #32 on: 08 July 2017, 19:21:04 »

A late-friend of mine missed his poo test as he had just moved at the time and it was sent to his old address and by the time the bowl cancer was diagnosed it was followed by a major operation to remove much of his bowl, unfortunately, the cancer had spread to other parts of his body and killed him. There is no good way to go but cancer is definitely one of the worse ones. :(

India has the highest RTA and fatality rate in the world, where they believe God has pre-ordained their lifespan, which normally coincidently coincides with overtaking on single-carriageway roads through blind bends, over the brow of a hill etc., etc. Lizzie why don't you put a blindfold on and play chicken on the M1, if it is not your time to die what could possibly go wrong. :o :o :o
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #33 on: 08 July 2017, 19:29:45 »

Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...

Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.




Perhaps it's just fear.

On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable  probably fear it more.

Exactly right :y :y

How can it be a case of "I,m all right Jack" when my decision affects no one else? I make the comments I make because I care about the young.  How the heck can a minority young population in future (10 years time?) pay for the medical treatment of a majority of 70 plus when already the NHS is on the verge of collapsing?  Sending out, at great cost kits to collect poo from my age group, and specifically me, I cannot justify.

As I repeatedly say I know my time will be up when God decides, and that is good enough for me. If some want to try and postpone the inevitable then that is fine, but personally I do not want to become a burden on society by trying to do so when, whatever we do, the clock of God is set like it was for our birth.  I have no fear of that whatsoever, and I can say that having been so close to death on a number of occasions.

It is my choice and no business of others.
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #34 on: 08 July 2017, 19:37:05 »

A late-friend of mine missed his poo test as he had just moved at the time and it was sent to his old address and by the time the bowl cancer was diagnosed it was followed by a major operation to remove much of his bowl, unfortunately, the cancer had spread to other parts of his body and killed him. There is no good way to go but cancer is definitely one of the worse ones. :(

India has the highest RTA and fatality rate in the world, where they believe God has pre-ordained their lifespan, which normally coincidently coincides with overtaking on single-carriageway roads through blind bends, over the brow of a hill etc., etc. Lizzie why don't you put a blindfold on and play chicken on the M1, if it is not your time to die what could possibly go wrong. :o :o :o

Because I do not deliberately set out to test God.  However, as I have repeatedly said, I have had a number of near death experiences but I was pulled back by "something" every time.  Spiritual experiences have also peppered my life, as they did with my late mother, and have reassured me of the existence of a power far greater than we can imagine, even three times reaching out physically to me when completely unexpected.

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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #35 on: 08 July 2017, 20:02:56 »

Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your behaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...

Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.




Perhaps it's just fear.

On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable  probably fear it more.

Exactly right :y :y

How can it be a case of "I,m all right Jack" when my decision affects no one else? I make the comments I make because I care about the young.  How the heck can a minority young population in future (10 years time?) pay for the medical treatment of a majority of 70 plus when already the NHS is on the verge of collapsing?  Sending out, at great cost kits to collect poo from my age group, and specifically me, I cannot justify.

As I repeatedly say I know my time will be up when God decides, and that is good enough for me. If some want to try and postpone the inevitable then that is fine, but personally I do not want to become a burden on society by trying to do so when, whatever we do, the clock of God is set like it was for our birth.  I have no fear of that whatsoever, and I can say that having been so close to death on a number of occasions.

It is my choice and no business of others.
At great cost?  ;D

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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #36 on: 08 July 2017, 21:08:29 »

Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your okbehaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...

Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.




Perhaps it's just fear.

On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable  probably fear it more.


Sorry should have explained perhaps better, not fearing death more " white coat syndrome" the fear of hospitals doctors needles etc , personally I would find it difficult to fear something I have never experienced never had a near death experience but you never know ! As for God I gave up on that years ago.

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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #37 on: 08 July 2017, 21:26:21 »

So did I. Seen far too much suffering of innocent people, and seen wicked bastids lead a charmed life.
Went to church 6 times a week until I was old enough to decide to stop. Since then, have only been reluctantly for weddings and funerals.
I have been extremely accident prone since I was old enough to walk, and have had several near death experiences, and seen the inside of too many ambulances and hospitals. It hasn't made me think about religion any more though.
Having said that, I don't have a problem with people who want to be religious. If it gets them through the day, its fine with me, as long as they don't try to force me or the rest of society to abide by their beliefs.
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #38 on: 09 July 2017, 15:23:19 »

Screening and diagnosis both help with developing new treatments... so it could be argued that your okbehaviour is selfish and rubs against the fundamentals of your faith...

Unless of course, you're a member of the 'I'malrightjack' club.




Perhaps it's just fear.

On the contrary, probably the other way round, accepting death not fearing it, whereas those trying to hold off the inevitable  probably fear it more.


Sorry should have explained perhaps better, not fearing death more " white coat syndrome" the fear of hospitals doctors needles etc , personally I would find it difficult to fear something I have never experienced never had a near death experience but you never know ! As for God I gave up on that years ago.

That is something I have never feared. In fact I enjoy watching my blood being taken and love anything medical. I find a surgeon working on a patient who is opened up fascinating, and if I had my life again would aim to be in that profession. :y :y
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #39 on: 09 July 2017, 15:45:15 »

I try to avoid the doctor like the plague.

I never get invited for a check up or 'well man' clinic of any description.

No stool smears, no prostrate checks, no cardiac tests, no blood tests (with the exception of 470 ML donations which they would presumably let me know if anything was amiss)

Perhaps my doctor (I have no idea who he is) thinks I'm already dead.

At one point in the last couple of years I was due for a check up but if memory serves they phoned to cancel.

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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #40 on: 09 July 2017, 15:48:19 »

Just remembered. I had my appendix removed a couple of years ago but went directly to the hospital. I thought it was simply a case of 'bad guts' that I couldn't shift. I was in agony.
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #41 on: 09 July 2017, 15:51:09 »

So did I. Seen far too much suffering of innocent people, and seen wicked bastids lead a charmed life.
Went to church 6 times a week until I was old enough to decide to stop. Since then, have only been reluctantly for weddings and funerals.
I have been extremely accident prone since I was old enough to walk, and have had several near death experiences, and seen the inside of too many ambulances and hospitals. It hasn't made me think about religion any more though.
Having said that, I don't have a problem with people who want to be religious. If it gets them through the day, its fine with me, as long as they don't try to force me or the rest of society to abide by their beliefs.

You'll burn in the fires of hell when your time comes. ;D
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #42 on: 09 July 2017, 16:40:15 »


An aunt of mine in Oz had cancer, and due to the fact her husband was an eminent doctor, she consulted his contacts in the medical profession about the different stages she would go through.
When it got to a certain point she went to her apartment in Sydney, sat in a nice bubble bath, drank a bottle of Champagne, and took a huge overdose of tablets.
She told her family that she wasn't going to let the cancer decide when the end would come. She would take that one thing away from its control.
I didn't like the woman one bit, but I respected her highly for that.

Atta girl, good on her. I hope it was a really expensive Champagne bought on a credit card that she wouldn't have to pay.

 
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Re: Blood tests/cancer
« Reply #43 on: 09 July 2017, 17:22:03 »


An aunt of mine in Oz had cancer, and due to the fact her husband was an eminent doctor, she consulted his contacts in the medical profession about the different stages she would go through.
When it got to a certain point she went to her apartment in Sydney, sat in a nice bubble bath, drank a bottle of Champagne, and took a huge overdose of tablets.
She told her family that she wasn't going to let the cancer decide when the end would come. She would take that one thing away from its control.
I didn't like the woman one bit, but I respected her highly for that.

Atta girl, good on her. I hope it was a really expensive Champagne bought on a credit card that she wouldn't have to pay.
Wouldn't like to have been the one that found her.
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