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Congraualtions to Lewis Hamilton on becoming the most successful racing driver in history. 8)
Equal with Schumacher on 7 world titles, but ahead of everyone on race wins, poles and just about every other record that counts.
And whats more he has done it fair and square. Never drove dangerously or unfairly,never cheated. Started from a council house in Stevenage, with no money, but huge talent, self belief and sheer hard work and rose to the very top. Inspiring hardly begins to cover it.
His politics may be controversial, but as a racing driver Ive never seen better.
If he isnt a national hero theres something wrong with the nation.
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On becoming the most successful racing driver in history. 8)
Equal with Schumacher on 7 world titles, but ahead of everyone on race wins, poles and just about every other record that counts.
And whats more he has done it fair and square. Never drove dangerously or unfairly,never cheated. Started from a council house in Stevenage, with no money, but huge talent, self belief and sheer hard work and rose to the very top. Inspiring hardly begins to cover it.
His politics may be controversial, but as a racing driver Ive never seen better.
If he isnt a national hero theres something wrong with the nation.
I was going to watch that later. Never mind.
His BLM antics have put me right off him.
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Oh shit, sorry. Didnt think. :-[
I dont agree with some of his off track stuff either, although Im certain he means well and his heart is in the right place. He just doesnt have the life experience or political knowledge to do what he is trying to do.
Btw, its still well worth watching for all sorts of reasons. The only thing Ive told you is that he scored several more points than Bottas. :y
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Oh shit, sorry. Didnt think. :-[
I dont agree with some of his off track stuff either, although Im certain he means well and his heart is in the right place. He just doesnt have the life experience or political knowledge to do what he is trying to do.
Btw, its still well worth watching for all sorts of reasons. The only thing Ive told you is that he scored several more points than Bottas. :y
It's on the fickin news now ;D
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Best race to watch in a while :y
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Truly excellent.
Class shows through on low grip damp conditions.
Stroll must be gutted.
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Congraualtions to Lewis Hamilton on becoming the most successful racing driver in history. 8)
Equal with Schumacher on 7 world titles, but ahead of everyone on race wins, poles and just about every other record that counts.
And whats more he has done it fair and square. Never drove dangerously or unfairly,never cheated. Started from a council house in Stevenage, with no money, but huge talent, self belief and sheer hard work and rose to the very top. Inspiring hardly begins to cover it.
His politics may be controversial, but as a racing driver Ive never seen better.
If he isnt a national hero theres something wrong with the nation.
He should thank has his vegan diet and regular boning's of the little blonde girl who works for the team. :y
She always seems to be sniffing around him.
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Apparently she is in his bubble ! ::)
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Apparently she is in his bubble ! ::)
And he's in hers ;D ;D
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Apparently she is in his bubble ! ::)
Not sure what her job is within Mercedes but she always seems to be around. Good luck to the girl. Hamilton is probably worth in excess of £100 million. :y
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Bottas 4.0 will try and beat Hamilton next year.
Jajajaja! Good luck with that!
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Here is a statistic for you, Mr Bitz. :)
According to Autocar magazine this week..........Of the 139 GP that have been run since 2014. Exactly 100 have been won by Mercedes.
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Presumably it is now 140 and 101. :)
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Apparently she is in his bubble ! ::)
And he's in hers ;D ;D
Angela Cullen his personal trainer
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Here is a statistic for you, Mr Bitz. :)
According to Autocar magazine this week..........Of the 139 GP that have been run since 2014. Exactly 100 have been won by Mercedes.
I believe Hamilton has won 72 of those. And the Mercedes hasnt always been the best car. Although it has been most of that time.
It certainly didnt seem to be the best car today, but it was a masterclass of intelligent driving from him that young Verstappen could learn a lot from.
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Apparently she is in his bubble ! ::)
And he's in hers ;D ;D
Angela Cullen his personal trainer
When you can afford a personal trainer you can't be short of a few bob. I believe STMO employs a personal trainer.
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Anyone watching todays race ? :o
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I have been for the last fours hours. Five years ago we would undoubtedly be talking about a dead F1 driver. Very lucky man indeed. :o
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I read online that the impact was 53g ! If thats true I cant understand how he didnt black out. If he had have done he would have died.
Theres a video in the link below of him chatting cheerfully from his hospital bed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55122594
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I read online that the impact was 53g ! If thats true I cant understand how he didnt black out. If he had have done he would have died.
Theres a video in the link below of him chatting cheerfully from his hospital bed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55122594
Just seen it for the first time on channel 4, that Armco barrier was a mess.
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Bordering on the miraculous that he survived it tbh.
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53g! Don’t know about that... here’s 46.2.....
https://youtu.be/3NpvzQbz638
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https://youtu.be/omtISQp5bKg
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Great race. Don’t like the circuit though. Next weeks will be interesting.
Some great drives and some poor drives.
Grosjean is one lucky man.
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53g! Don’t know about that... here’s 46.2.....
https://youtu.be/3NpvzQbz638
140ish to 0 in about 3 feet.
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I read online that the impact was 53g ! If thats true I cant understand how he didnt black out. If he had have done he would have died.
Theres a video in the link below of him chatting cheerfully from his hospital bed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55122594
Attended a rather superb (internally run) automotive structures course on Friday, they stated that 60G is a magic number, above this brain bleeds and heart detachment (where it tears its self from the main artery from which it is hung) tend to occur.
Very lucky, but also a bloody idiot for driving like a tosser and chopping across like that in the first place.
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He's always been a loose cannon, other drivers have been complaining on and off for a good while.
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I agree. His F1 career is due to finish in two races time and its overdue tbh. He seems like a nice guy and reasonably intelligent out of the car, and can be very quick on occasions.
During races though, its almost like he loses concentration and makes a lot of dangerous mistakes of the kind that should have been ironed out long before he got near an F1 car.
Although I was really shocked by what I saw watching it live on TV. I wasnt shocked to hear that it was him who had the crash.
I think for his own sake (and his wife and kids) he should hang up his helmet, rather than go to Indycar, as he is planning to do.
Im thankful for the fact that TV directors are sensitive enough to cut to a different camera nowadays when something like this happens.
Im old enough to remember when they would keep the camera on a car with someone dying inside it
I well remember Ricardo Paletti burning to death at the start of the Canadian Grand Prix in 1982, on live tv, with cameras also pointing at his hysterical distraught mother a few yards away in the pitlane.
Gilles Villeneuves horrific fatal crash was shown over and over again on the news, including slowmo footage, and then his lifeless body lying against the crash barriers, after the Belgian fans had stolen his socks and racing boots for souvenirs.
It was horrifically crass and insensitive.
The memory of the footage of David Purley trying desperately to save Roger Williamson still turns my blood cold all these years later.
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I agree. His F1 career is due to finish in two races time and its overdue tbh. He seems like a nice guy and reasonably intelligent out of the car, and can be very quick on occasions.
During races though, its almost like he loses concentration and makes a lot of dangerous mistakes of the kind that should have been ironed out long before he got near an F1 car.
Although I was really shocked by what I saw watching it live on TV. I wasnt shocked to hear that it was him who had the crash.
I think for his own sake (and his wife and kids) he should hang up his helmet, rather than go to Indycar, as he is planning to do.
Im thankful for the fact that TV directors are sensitive enough to cut to a different camera nowadays when something like this happens.
Im old enough to remember when they would keep the camera on a car with someone dying inside it
I well remember Ricardo Paletti burning to death at the start of the Canadian Grand Prix in 1982, on live tv, with cameras also pointing at his hysterical distraught mother a few yards away in the pitlane.
Gilles Villeneuves horrific fatal crash was shown over and over again on the news, including slowmo footage, and then his lifeless body lying against the crash barriers, after the Belgian fans had stolen his socks and racing boots for souvenirs.
It was horrifically crass and insensitive.
The memory of the footage of David Purley trying desperately to save Roger Williamson still turns my blood cold all these years later.
They kept the camera's on Senna too,I remember that like it was yesterday,grim weekend all round with Ratzenberger as well :'(
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They did, although at a more discreet distance than previously iirc. Then the medics put a screen around the scene - again only from memory.
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Young Landrover Norris may be one for the future.
Still just a fresh-faced child but give him 3 or 4 years. :y
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Bordering on the miraculous that he survived it tbh.
Crashes such as this were common in the fifties, sixties, and seventies. Back then they didn't survive because the cars had all the structural strength of a KFC box. :)
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Given the angle to the track of that Armco, shouldn't there been a tyre wall in front of it.
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Given the angle to the track of that Armco, shouldn't there been a tyre wall in front of it.
Even back in the fifties the best cars could reach 170 MPH. Back then safety equipment took the form of a short-sleeve shirt and an old WW2 leather flying helmet. :)
No nancy boys back then.
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No Hamilton at this weekends race. He has tested positive for Covid. :(
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Big question is who will drive in his place this weekend and probably the last race too? Hope it isn’t Vandoorne. Hulkenberg? Schumacher jnr? One of next years Haas drivers?Russell maybe......
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I think George Russell will be favourite if Williams are prepared to let him do it. He is in the Mercedes young driver programme and although he is in the slowest car on the grid, has been an impressive driver.
He was obviously better than Norris when they were both on their way up the ladder, but Norris ended up in a much quicker car so far.
Russell is expected to replace Hamilton at Mercedes when Hamilton retires, so it would make sense.
Apart from that, Vandoorne is the official reserve driver, so seems the logical choice, but Hulkenburg has impressed in his one off drives this season, and might be in the frame.
It will be interesting to see how they perform, whoever it turns out to be.
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Russell would be my favourite too but Williams need to hang on to any possibility of scoring a point in the last two races for the cash benefits that gives. What about Hulkenberg taking Russells seat for two races........
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Would be fun for them to offer the seat to anyone from any team just to see what they are like in a Mercedes.
Everyone says it is the car, well, time to put up or shut up?
Make minimal difference to Mercedes, championship already won.
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Alonso?
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Look on the bright side. We will not have to watch Hamilton 'taking the knee'
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I think George Russell will be favourite if Williams are prepared to let him do it. He is in the Mercedes young driver programme and although he is in the slowest car on the grid, has been an impressive driver.
He was obviously better than Norris when they were both on their way up the ladder, but Norris ended up in a much quicker car so far.
Russell is expected to replace Hamilton at Mercedes when Hamilton retires, so it would make sense.
Apart from that, Vandoorne is the official reserve driver, so seems the logical choice, but Hulkenburg has impressed in his one off drives this season, and might be in the frame.
It will be interesting to see how they perform, whoever it turns out to be.
I can't see Williams letting Russell out to play, although when he tested last years Merc in Spain he topped the time sheets so the boy can drive
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I would say that just about any half-decent driver could win in the Mercedes.
Virtually any driver on the grid could win with a bit of familiarisation.
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what you mean like Bottas?!! ;D ;D ;D
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what you mean like Bottas?!! ;D ;D ;D
Bottas and any number of others.
He has won with the Mercedes and taken pole position with Mercedes. If he can presumably others can, with the exception of Kimi (too old and lazy) and Albitz all time favourite driver, Vettel ( who can't be arsed) :)
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I would guess most of them could win the odd race driving a Mercedes, if Hamilton wasnt in the other one. Winning race after race, year after year is a different thing though.
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..... Vettel ( who can't be arsed) :)
I heard the reason he spins so much is to make sure he gets plenty of airtime for his sponsors. [/tongue in cheek]
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I would guess most of them could win the odd race driving a Mercedes, if Hamilton wasnt in the other one. Winning race after race, year after year is a different thing though.
Yes.....he is good. Almost as good as Rosberg. ::)
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Be fair. Schumacher was 107 years old at the time. :)
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Would you marry him, Albs? ;D
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Would you marry him, Albs? ;D
I do detect more than a hint of hero worship......... ::) ::) ::) ;) :D
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https://youtu.be/gjSfkvMZogE (https://youtu.be/gjSfkvMZogE)
Here you go, Mr Bitz. :y
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Would you marry him, Albs? ;D
If I thought I would get half his money when I divorced him, I would seriously consider it. :y ;D
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Be fair. Schumacher was 43 years old at the time. Whereas Hamilton is only approaching 36 :)
Cant argue with that. :y
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Be fair. Schumacher was 43 years old at the time. Whereas Hamilton is only approaching 36 :)
Cant argue with that. :y
Prime Schumacher against prime Hamilton in the same car would have been interesting.
We'll never know. You could also throw a prime era Jim Clark or Senna into the mix.
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Rosberg never beat him in a straight fight in even one single race. And the only reason Rosberg (just about) won a championship was Hamiltons reliability issues that season.
Rosberg, being reasonably intelligent knew this, and knew it wasnt likely to happen again, so retired from racing immediately. :)
Also, Rosberg out qualified and out raced Schumacher most weekends when he had him as a team mate before Hamilton, so what does that tell us ? :)
Be fair. Schumacher was 43 years old at the time. Whereas Hamilton is only approaching 36 :)
Cant argue with that. :y
Prime Schumacher against prime Hamilton in the same car would have been interesting.
We'll never know. You could also throw a prime era Jim Clark or Senna into the mix.
I'm not sure Senna's balls would have fitted into a modern F1 car.
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I think this also puts a lot of pressure on Bottas. If they parachute a Norris, Russell or Hulkenberg into Hamiltons' car, and Bottas doesn't soundly beat them in a fair fight then Bottas's share price drops through the floor IMV. The opposite is probably true as well though - if Bottas runs of into the distance leaving Lewis's replacement fighting with the Renault, McLaran and Racing Point, then Merc probably are justified in their retention of Bottas for next season.
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Your probably right.
Clark was before my time, but from what Ive seen and heard about him he was a supremely gifted driver.
Senna was an awesome driver but not without flaws. His latin temperament got the better of him at times.
Schumacher. Were could we start with his flaws ? How good was he ? No way of telling. So much cheating from him and his teams it isnt possible to judge how good he was or wasnt.
The only time its reasonable to assume he wasnt driven a "bent" car was when he came back and drove for Mercedes. He was a mediocre midfield runner, but in fairness he was getting on a bit by then.
Its easy to forget now some of his astonishing drives earlier in his career, when he didnt have a dominant car as he does now.
The only wet weather drivers I would put in the same bracket as him would be Senna and Gilles Villeneuve.
The two main factors for me though, which put him above all the others is that he is pretty flawless. Mistakes are very rare, and he is consistently on top of his game.
If it wasnt for some bad luck he would have won the title at his first attempt and also won against Rosberg. He could easily have had 9 by now.
Also, as Coulthard mentioned yesterday, he is completely fair in his driving at all times, even under extreme pressure, yet its rare for anyone to beat him in a fair fight.
I havent seen anyone quite like that before, who could produce similar results over such a long period of time.
Very close to the perfect racing driver.
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Shame he has three things against him.
1. He is the last of the top flight drivers to come from a poor background. Quite probably the very last.
2. He is black. People are still very racist.
3. He is British. Rather strangely Brits aren’t desperately patriotic. It isnt just own sports people but products, cars, foodstuffs.
Notwithstanding the foregoing he is the complete package.
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1. That's a presumption.
2. It is only a colour issue because he makes it one. There are plenty of foreign drivers in F1, just happens that ost of their origin countries are predominantly white. Senna was Brazilian and that's probably one of the most diverse countries in the world.
3. Nonsense, for much the same reasons as above. It's a multinational 'sport' Brits are probably the largest supporters as a percentage of population.
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1. He certainly came from a very humble background. I suppose it could happen again but not that likely as its rarely happened before.
2. Ten years ago I heard more than one F1 "fan" say, "I dont care how good he is, Im not supporting the black b*****d". Disgusting. >:(
3.Some in truth in that imo. Brits seem to prefer an underdog, a nearly man like Mansell. Great driver though he was.
Someone like Hamilton who is in a league of his own and a serial winner, seems to inspire nothing but jealousy and resentment in quite a few Brits.
He is a much bigger star in other parts of the world, particularly the U.S. than he is in his own country. Which I find sad and strange.
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Living in Monaco probably doesn't help the domestic case...
The thing is, Mansell, Hill, Brundall and Coulthard were all pretty solid drivers in a no whiny no nonsense 'head down, arse up' get on with it types.
Hamilton presents as a young Schumacher with all the talent and arrogance that comes with it. As does Vettel without the talent...
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Living in Monaco probably doesn't help the domestic case...
The thing is, Mansell, Hill, Brundall and Coulthard were all pretty solid drivers in a no whiny no nonsense 'head down, arse up' get on with it types.
Hamilton presents as a young Schumacher with all the talent and arrogance that comes with it. As does Vettel without the talent...
Why shouldnt he live in Monaco? He has rhe skill and takes rhe risks ( it is still a dangerous sport) would you expect him to live where he was brought up? I suppose you would expect him to ive his hard earned money away.
Hamilton isnt whiny. - I think you mistake him for Verstappen who has a lot of growing up to do.
Arrogance? You very clearly do inhabit a parallel planet.
Go on push the boat out and celebrate someone great at his sport and someone who is British. You may find it quite easy to do once you overcome your prejudices.
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;D
I never said he shouldn't live in Monaco... (afterall most of the grid lives there) merely pointing out that it may create a certain disconnect with his roots which could impact his domestic fanbase.
Listening to him on the radio on the track, he comes across as whiny... that's my opinion, you have your own.
As for arrogance, you took that out of context... My point was that it is possible to have talent and modesty. Less so Coulthard perhaps, but the compare the attitude of the four BRITISH drivers I named with Michael Schumacher. Hamilton tends to be similar to Schumacher rather than Brundall... for example.
Not just in F1, but most sports, being the best tends to demand a certain amount of self belief and this gets reinforced by constantly winning and manifests into a superior attitude, or in other words, arrogance.
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So Russell has the Merc this weekend,hope he gives a good showing but a tough call to race a car you have never driven
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Good call, big opportunity for Russell. :y
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Living in Monaco probably doesn't help the domestic case...
The thing is, Mansell, Hill, Brundall and Coulthard were all pretty solid drivers in a no whiny no nonsense 'head down, arse up' get on with it types.
Hamilton presents as a young Schumacher with all the talent and arrogance that comes with it. As does Vettel without the talent...
He actually lives more in Switzerland than Monaco these days, just as Jackie Stewart has done since the early 70,s.
Most F1 drivers have lived in Monaco for decades now, apart from Mansell who lived in the Isle of Man to avoid tax.
Despite living abroad, he is one of the top 5000 UK taxpayers.
I think his constant questioning over the radio is because, like Senna before him, he seems to have the ability to drive the car on the limit, while at the same time thinking about the various things that could be a problem or compromise his race in some way.
He has actually made strategy calls a few times this season which proved to be the better call than the one the team had made.
Mansell was always known as the biggest whinger in the history of F1. Patrick Head said "its always maximum aggravation working with him".
Ron Dennis said he would rather shut McLaren down than sign Mansell to drive for him. Although he later briefly relented on that, under pressure from Bernie.
I actually perceive Hamilton as pretty humble, considering what he has achieved. He heaps the praise for his success towards his whole team at every opportunity. He does have total self belief at the same time though, which isnt an easy trick to pull off.
It will be interesting to see how Russell does. I really rate him as a driver, but at the same time, maybe shouldnt expect too much from him being thrown in that the deep end at short notice.
In the unlikely event that he outperforms Bottas, Bottas should close his book of excuses and hang up his helmet.
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Living in Monaco probably doesn't help the domestic case...
The thing is, Mansell, Hill, Brundall and Coulthard were all pretty solid drivers in a no whiny no nonsense 'head down, arse up' get on with it types.
Hamilton presents as a young Schumacher with all the talent and arrogance that comes with it. As does Vettel without the talent...
He actually lives more in Switzerland than Monaco these days, just as Jackie Stewart has done since the early 70,s.
Most F1 drivers have lived in Monaco for decades now, apart from Mansell who lived in the Isle of Man to avoid tax.
Despite living abroad, he is one of the top 5000 UK taxpayers.
I think his constant questioning over the radio is because, like Senna before him, he seems to have the ability to drive the car on the limit, while at the same time thinking about the various things that could be a problem or compromise his race in some way.
He has actually made strategy calls a few times this season which proved to be the better call than the one the team had made.
Mansell was always known as the biggest whinger in the history of F1. Patrick Head said "its always maximum aggravation working with him".
Ron Dennis said he would rather shut McLaren down than sign Mansell to drive for him. Although he later briefly relented on that, under pressure from Bernie.
I actually perceive Hamilton as pretty humble, considering what he has achieved. He heaps the praise for his success towards his whole team at every opportunity. He does have total self belief at the same time though, which isnt an easy trick to pull off.
It will be interesting to see how Russell does. I really rate him as a driver, but at the same time, maybe shouldnt expect too much from him being thrown in that the deep end at short notice.
In the unlikely event that he outperforms Bottas, Bottas should close his book of excuses and hang up his helmet.
I agree with you. Hamilton has a unique perspective on the race issue because he is 50/50 mixed race but perceived and judged by some as "black". My wife and I saw him at Silverstone and he was very courteous as she handed him a book that a friend had written about F1. On the same day one of our children tried to get Daniel Ricciardo's autograph as he left a press conference and his TV smiles were gone as he brushed them aside and rushed away. My own feeling is that none of us really know Lewis (or any other driver), they are all pretty arrogant (it goes with the job title) and Mercedes must love the new markets that he has opened up for them, so he has earned his success.
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We have Michael Schumacher (junior) in F1 next year, driving for HAAS. Not much pressure on his shoulders. ::)
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We have Michael Schumacher (junior) in F1 next year, driving for HAAS. Not much pressure on his shoulders. ::)
I was never a much of a Schumacher fan but am saddened that he can't be there for his sons big break :'(
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So Russell has the Merc this weekend,hope he gives a good showing but a tough call to race a car you have never driven
Mr Bottas will be red of face if the 'lanky streak of piss' known as George Russell proves faster in qualification. :)
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So Russell has the Merc this weekend,hope he gives a good showing but a tough call to race a car you have never driven
Mr Bottas will be red of face if the 'lanky streak of piss' known as George Russell proves faster in qualification. :)
Whatever happens it will reflect badly on Bottas. If he doesn't come anywhere, it'll be, 'You can't expect him to jump in a strange car setup for another driver and just win' and if does better than Bottas, or even close to Bottas, then there will be calls to replace him. It's a lose/lose. Given that Russell has managed to get better results than you'd normally think possible in that Williams, I think he'll be a serious contender.
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Anyone seen FP1 today :o
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Havent seen it but just read about it.
1. Russell
2. Verstappen
3, Albon
4. Bottas
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Havent seen it but just read about it.
1. Russell
2. Verstappen
3, Albon
4. Bottas
And thats wearing shoes too small for him and sitting too high in the car,Christ knows how quick he will be once he settles in :y
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Havent seen it but just read about it.
1. Russell
2. Verstappen
3, Albon
4. Bottas
And thats wearing shoes too small for him and sitting too high in the car,Christ knows how quick he will be once he settles in :y
I know he's young but I didn't realise he was still in a high chair :-[
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Havent seen it but just read about it.
1. Russell
2. Verstappen
3, Albon
4. Bottas
Means very little, I'm afraid.
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Be afraid
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Be afraid
....of what? :)
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He was also fastest in FP2. :)
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He was also fastest in FP2. :)
He 'could' win. If he does I'm sure Bottas will be the first to congratulate him. :)
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We also have a Fittipaldi in F1 this weekend.
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Who said nepotism was dead :D
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Be afraid
....of what? :)
No Idea. You said I’m afraid.
Try and keep at the back.
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Who said nepotism was dead :D
He will be the fourth one. Only the first one was any good.
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Be very afraid?
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2 100ths of a second between Bottas and Russell, first and second on the grid.
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Bottas has beaten Russell to pole by 0.026 seconds ! The blink of an eye.
The boy did well. :)
Stemo got there first, but Im posting it anyway. ::) :P
The old fart shouldnt be able to type so fast. :D
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Bottas has beaten Russell to pole by 0.026 seconds ! The blink of an eye.
The boy did well. :)
Stemo got there first, but Im posting it anyway. ::) :P
The old fart shouldnt be able to type so fast. :D
That's the difference between a world champion poster and an also ran ;D
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Far cough. :P ;D
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2 100ths of a second between Bottas and Russell, first and second on the grid.
After two days in an unfamiliar car :o,that lad is a future champ :y
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2 100ths of a second between Bottas and Russell, first and second on the grid.
After two days in an unfamiliar car :o,that lad is a future champ :y
Anyone would be a future champ in a Mercedes.
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2 100ths of a second between Bottas and Russell, first and second on the grid.
After two days in an unfamiliar car :o,that lad is a future champ :y
Anyone would be a future champ in a Mercedes.
Bottas won't be though I don't think :-\
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2 100ths of a second between Bottas and Russell, first and second on the grid.
After two days in an unfamiliar car :o,that lad is a future champ :y
Anyone would be a future champ in a Mercedes.
Bottas won't be though I don't think :-\
Not unless Hamilton decides to call it a day.
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I'd like to see Verstapen in a Mercedes
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2 100ths of a second between Bottas and Russell, first and second on the grid.
After two days in an unfamiliar car :o,that lad is a future champ :y
Anyone would be a future champ in a Mercedes.
Not sure I would agree with that. Russell won both the GP3 and GP2 Championships at his first attempt, and today is the first time in his F1 career that he has been outqualified by a team mate. He is a serious talent biding his time in a slow car, until Mercedes put him in their car to replace Bottas or Hamilton retires whichever comes first.
Verstappen has a lot of potential, but imo hes still quite a long way from the finished article. Still impetuous, immature, and very arrogant.
He is naturally quick though, and thats something you cant teach. I actually think going to F1 so young hasnt been good for him. Had he arrived a bit older with a bit of maturity he would have arrived closer to a complete package, rather than a raw talent.
If he were to partner Hamilton at Mercedes there would certainly be fireworks, but over a season I have little doubt that Hamilton would beat him more often than not.
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Bring on the race.
Well done George. :y
Don’t like the circuit.
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Still impetuous, immature, and very arrogant.
The key requirements in my book.
I will be kinder and call it passion, or a desire to win.
To be honest, the same applies to most things. I've been blessed to work with some really, really clever people, and invariably the best all suffer those traits. The lesser mortals who dont move into management instead.
If someone is having a bad day, broken keyboards and smashed monitors is the norm, about as immature and impetulant* as you can get.
*Or youthful exuberance as my old controller wrote about me...
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broken keyboards and smashed monitors
I have never broken a monitor through immaturity impetulance.
(Just remember I smashed one with a stray Nerf gun foam bullet, which is pretty immature ;D)
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Imo Spontaneity, passion, and self belief arent the same as Impetuousness, immaturity and arrogance, although can easily confused with them. :)
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It's a fine line sometimes :-[
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It is indeed. But being either side of the line can make a big difference in many circumstances. :y
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Pantie line? ;D
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Where? Or is that wear?... :D
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That race smacks of a fix.
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Mmm, not sure. But someone in certain pit garage should be getting the tin tack tonight.
A star was born though. I told you he was good. :)
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Mmm, not sure. But someone in certain pit garage should be getting the tin tack tonight.
A star was born though. I told you he was good. :)
Yeah, the car is very good ::)
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Better than his team mates car apparently. ::) ;D
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Better than his team mates car apparently. ::) ;D
Yeah...makes you wonder about the person who usually drives it.
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The GOAT. :y 8) :)
I think we can assume that Albon is out of a drive for next year. ::)
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The GOAT. :y 8) :)
I think we can assume that Albon is out of a drive for next year. ::)
GOAT? Nowhere near. I know you would love to have his children, but it's the car....see? ;D
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Spend the rest of the evening watching his drives over the last 14 years on Youtube, then come back and we will talk about it. ::)
Ive been watching it avidly for 45 years and Ive never seen anyone better.
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Spend the rest of the evening watching his drives over the last 14 years on Youtube, then come back and we will talk about it. ::)
Ive been watching it avidly for 45 years and Ive never seen anyone better.
Boob tube? Nah, that's for folk who've nowt better to do, like you and Gollum ;D
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Oh do far cough will ya. ;D
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Oh do far cough will ya. ;D
I'm not annoying you, am I, Albs? ;D ;D ;D
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Mmm, not sure. But someone in certain pit garage should be getting the tin tack tonight.
A star was born though. I told you he was good. :)
I agree,Russell unlucky with the pitstop f up and the puncture but Christ can he drive.
I thought the most impressive bit was the last 10 laps when he made up 6 or 7 places
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I reckon Toto,s biggest regret after the race is that he has already signed Bottas for next year. ;D
Bottas can be extremely fast sometimes, but more often mediocre. You never know which one is going to turn up on a given weekend.
Inconsistency is the enemy of winning titles, as he rediscovers every season. ::)
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Enjoyed that.
Lets hope Perez Gets the Red bull seat.
Anyone still think Bottas is a great driver?
Well done Russell. What a great showing.
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Im not bothered if he gets it or not tbh, but by rights he probably should. It might not be the dream move he wants it to be though.
I read an article yesterday which said that the car is designed and built around Verstappens aggressive driving style, which is why Albon struggles with it. Albon was a highly rated young driver until he was put in that car.
Perez in a car built to suit Verstappen might start to lose his reputation. Time may tell.
I also wonder if Verstappen might have some input into who is in the other car ? Number 1 drivers often do.
As I mentioned before, Bottas can be a great driver - sometimes, when he is in the mood or whatever. Much of the time though, he is a tad mediocre. He isnt consistently fast enough, and doesnt seem able to drive around problems when they happen.
When the pain and frustration settles down, Russell will surely realise that he raised his profile enormously today.
Unless Bottas has a hell of a season next year, I would imagine Russell will have his drive in 2022.
I think other teams have missed a trick this year by not signing him up instead of LeClerc, Sainz or even the returning Alonso, who I cant see recapturing his past glory days.
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Spend the rest of the evening watching his drives over the last 14 years on Youtube, then come back and we will talk about it. ::)
Ive been watching it avidly for 45 years and Ive never seen anyone better.
STMO is correct. It's the car.
A skinny youth was plucked from obscurity and did a 'Hamilton'
There is nothing really outstanding about Russell, and my guess is that more than half the grid could have done the same thing with the Mercedes. Bottas is average at best and will soon be picking up his P45.
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Russell has won every category that he has raced in so he is not your average Joe, he topped the timesheets testing in last years Merc as well :y
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Spend the rest of the evening watching his drives over the last 14 years on Youtube, then come back and we will talk about it. ::)
Ive been watching it avidly for 45 years and Ive never seen anyone better.
STMO is correct. It's the car.
A skinny youth was plucked from obscurity and did a 'Hamilton'
There is nothing really outstanding about Russell, and my guess is that more than half the grid could have done the same thing with the Mercedes. Bottas is average at best and will soon be picking up his P45.
Russell is far from average, he has made the drivers in the other categories he has competed in look very ordinary :y
He was night and day better than Bottas who is an average driver
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Spend the rest of the evening watching his drives over the last 14 years on Youtube, then come back and we will talk about it. ::)
Ive been watching it avidly for 45 years and Ive never seen anyone better.
STMO is correct. It's the car.
A skinny youth was plucked from obscurity and did a 'Hamilton'
There is nothing really outstanding about Russell, and my guess is that more than half the grid could have done the same thing with the Mercedes. Bottas is average at best and will soon be picking up his P45.
Cobblers. Next you will be spouting that Vettel is a great driver. Did you actually watch the race?
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Spend the rest of the evening watching his drives over the last 14 years on Youtube, then come back and we will talk about it. ::)
Ive been watching it avidly for 45 years and Ive never seen anyone better.
STMO is correct. It's the car.
A skinny youth was plucked from obscurity and did a 'Hamilton'
There is nothing really outstanding about Russell, and my guess is that more than half the grid could have done the same thing with the Mercedes. Bottas is average at best and will soon be picking up his P45.
Cobblers. Next you will be spouting that Vettel is a great driver. Did you actually watch the race?
Do you mean the same Vettel who has won 4 F1 titles and has won more than 50 GP?
Russell did well but lets not over-egg the pudding. Before yesterday he was right at the bottom of the list with zero points from 15 races. No points......no podium finishes.....no wins.
Way too early to see him as the next messiah.
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Russell has won every category that he has raced in so he is not your average Joe, he topped the timesheets testing in last years Merc as well :y
I suppose in reality nobody in F1 is really 'average' even the worst are very good. Drivers tend to line up on the grid as team pairs suggesting they are all very evenly matched when driving the same car.
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He won the championship in both lower categories at his first attempt. No-one has scored a point in a Williams for quite some time. The team is grossly underfunded and the car is far slower than all the other cars on the grid.
He has outqualified his team mate at every single attempt while driving for them.
If you followed the sport reasonably closely you would know that everyone who is anyone rates him highly.
Thats why he has been signed as part of Mercedes junior team, and was seriously considered to replace Bottas this year.
He regularly beat Norris, LeClerc, Sainz etc. in pre F1 days.
He had probelms remembering which button to push during qualifying, as they are in different places on the Williams, and pressed the wrong one a couple of times, but still got within a few thousands of Bottas.
He is far from average, even by F1 standards.. ;)
As for Vettel, yes he did won four titles so cant be said to be useless. But he did have a huge car advantage , a team built completely around him, and his team mates werent usually allowed to beat him.
He has also been allowed to get away with very dubious driving tactics many times which others would have been punished for. It must be a German thing.
He hasnt looked too impressive since he started driving a car that wasnt designed by Adrian Newey. ::)
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He won the championship in both lower categories at his first attempt. No-one has scored a point in a Williams for quite some time. The team is grossly underfunded and the car is far slower than all the other cars on the grid.
He has outqualified his team mate at every single attempt while driving for them.
If you followed the sport reasonably closely you would know that everyone who is anyone rates him highly.
Thats why he has been signed as part of Mercedes junior team, and was seriously considered to replace Bottas this year.
He regularly beat Norris, LeClerc, Sainz etc. in pre F1 days.
He had probelms remembering which button to push during qualifying, as they are in different places on the Williams, and pressed the wrong one a couple of times, but still got within a few thousands of Bottas.
He is far from average, even by F1 standards.. ;)
Better than Hamilton? ::) ::) ;)
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He won the championship in both lower categories at his first attempt. No-one has scored a point in a Williams for quite some time. The team is grossly underfunded and the car is far slower than all the other cars on the grid.
He has outqualified his team mate at every single attempt while driving for them.
If you followed the sport reasonably closely you would know that everyone who is anyone rates him highly.
Thats why he has been signed as part of Mercedes junior team, and was seriously considered to replace Bottas this year.
He regularly beat Norris, LeClerc, Sainz etc. in pre F1 days.
He had probelms remembering which button to push during qualifying, as they are in different places on the Williams, and pressed the wrong one a couple of times, but still got within a few thousands of Bottas.
He is far from average, even by F1 standards.. ;)
As for Vettel, yes he did won four titles so cant be said to be useless. But he did have a huge car advantage , a team built completely around him, and his team mates werent usually allowed to beat him.
He has also been allowed to get away with very dubious driving tactics many times which others would have been punished for. It must be a German thing.
He hasnt looked too impressive since he started driving a car that wasnt designed by Adrian Newey. ::)
;D ;D
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
That's for your money, other folk think differently. :P
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He won the championship in both lower categories at his first attempt. No-one has scored a point in a Williams for quite some time. The team is grossly underfunded and the car is far slower than all the other cars on the grid.
He has outqualified his team mate at every single attempt while driving for them.
If you followed the sport reasonably closely you would know that everyone who is anyone rates him highly.
Thats why he has been signed as part of Mercedes junior team, and was seriously considered to replace Bottas this year.
He regularly beat Norris, LeClerc, Sainz etc. in pre F1 days.
He had probelms remembering which button to push during qualifying, as they are in different places on the Williams, and pressed the wrong one a couple of times, but still got within a few thousands of Bottas.
He is far from average, even by F1 standards.. ;)
As for Vettel, yes he did won four titles so cant be said to be useless. But he did have a huge car advantage , a team built completely around him, and his team mates werent usually allowed to beat him.
He has also been allowed to get away with very dubious driving tactics many times which others would have been punished for. It must be a German thing.
He hasnt looked too impressive since he started driving a car that wasnt designed by Adrian Newey. ::)
;D ;D
Yes I know Hamilton currently has a big car advantage, but he hasnt had that throughout his whoile career by any means. Dont forget that the last couple of years Ferarri have been "bending" the rules again and their car was a missile, until it became so obvious that the FIA had to have a word.
When he started in F1 his team mate was Alonso. Most of the pundits said Alonso was by far the best driver on the grid, yet Hamilton made him look mediocre in his rookie year. And only missed out on winning the championship at his first attempt, by a bit of bad luck.
Can you mention a driver who was as good or better in the wet.
The only two ocassions I can recall were Villenueve at Watkins Glen (in 78 iirc) where he was 11 seconds a lap faster than the next fastest man. And Senna in Portugal, in the Lotus, when he got his first win in the rain in 85.
Senna at Donington doesnt count. Although it was great viewing, the car was driven more by computers than the driver. Alll he had to do (apart from being braver than the others) was keep his foot planted and turn the steering wheel.His words, not mine. :)
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
That's for your money, other folk think differently. :P
Dont mind folk thinking differently, as long as its from an informed viewpoint. ::)
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
I reckon half a second would cover the best and worst drivers in the same car on the same tyres and same weight. Bottas was only 2/100ths ahead of Russell in qualification........I wonder how far that is in distance?
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
That's for your money, other folk think differently. :P
Dont mind folk thinking differently, as long as its from an informed viewpoint. ::)
He's from Barnsley. :)
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Just spotted the problem.. This young lad has proved his worth in junior formulas, out qualified his team mate all 36 times.
No the problem is he is British! If he goes on to win seven championships the nay sayers would be saying, car, luck etc.
Hey ho.
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
That's for your money, other folk think differently. :P
Dont mind folk thinking differently, as long as its from an informed viewpoint. ::)
Sorry, Albs, forgot we have resident experts on here. You on F1, Al on stolen elections ;D
The only way we could ever prove the fact that Hamilton wins because he drives a merc is to put him in something else, or to put Russell in Hamilton's merc and Hamilton in Bottas's merc, and that ain't gonna happen.
Until then, my point of view is every bit as valid as yours :P
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
That's for your money, other folk think differently. :P
Dont mind folk thinking differently, as long as its from an informed viewpoint. ::)
Sorry, Albs, forgot we have resident experts on here. You on F1, Al on stolen elections ;D
The only way we could ever prove the fact that Hamilton wins because he drives a merc is to put him in something else, or to put Russell in Hamilton's merc and Hamilton in Bottas's merc, and that ain't gonna happen.
Until then, my point of view is every bit as valid as yours :P
Like a McClaren ? Where he won 21 Grand Prix, and hardly anyone else has won a race in one since the days of Hakkinen & Kimi. :)
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Dont be silly. ::)
He is an extremely promising star of the future.
For my money, if they were all driving identical cars the order would usually be Hamilton, Riciardo, Verstappen ( if he doesnt make a silly mistake and end up in the wall), then probably Russell. After that, its difficult to tell. They seem much of a muchness to me.
That's for your money, other folk think differently. :P
Dont mind folk thinking differently, as long as its from an informed viewpoint. ::)
Sorry, Albs, forgot we have resident experts on here. You on F1, Al on stolen elections ;D
The only way we could ever prove the fact that Hamilton wins because he drives a merc is to put him in something else, or to put Russell in Hamilton's merc and Hamilton in Bottas's merc, and that ain't gonna happen.
Until then, my point of view is every bit as valid as yours :P
Like a McClaren ? Where he won 21 Grand Prix, and hardly anyone else has won a race in one since the days of Hakkinen & Kimi. :)
McClaren Mercedes wasn't it?
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Yes, and it wasnt a very competitive car. Particularly against the Newey designed Red bull, which was untouchable. Hence Vettels four titles during that time. :)
There was also the year where the Brawn with its blown diffuser was in a different league to everything else. To the point where the mediocre button, won the title without breaking a sweat. ;)
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Yes, and it wasnt a very competitive car. Particularly against the Newey designed Red bull, which was untouchable. Hence Vettels four titles during that time. :)
You keep reinforcing my argument. Vettel won because he was in the best car, so does Hamilton. ;D
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Just spotted the problem.. This young lad has proved his worth in junior formulas, out qualified his team mate all 36 times.
No the problem is he is British! If he goes on to win seven championships the nay sayers would be saying, car, luck etc.
Hey ho.
Is that your opinion, or media presented fact?
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Hamilton has had the best car for the last couple of seasons. He has been in F1 for fourteen years. ::)
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Hamilton has had the best car for the last couple of seasons. He has been in F1 for fourteen years. ::)
Nah....it's the car. ;D
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Ok, your logic has defeated me. Your right. :y ::) ;D
Now SHUTUP fer chrissake. ;D
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Hamilton has had the best car for the last couple of seasons. He has been in F1 for fourteen years. ::)
Nah....it's the car. ;D
Apparently it can't be him or the car as both are 'British'... ::)
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Ok, your logic has defeated me. Your right. :y ::) ;D
Now SHUTUP fer chrissake. ;D
Just giving you something to pass the time while you're at work ;D
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Hamilton has had the best car for the last couple of seasons. He has been in F1 for fourteen years. ::)
Nah....it's the car. ;D
Apparently it can't be him or the car as both are 'British'... ::)
Mercedes engines are British? I think people can see how little you know now. I rest my case. :y
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Im not at work though. ::)
Im trying to watch Corrie. ;D
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Im not at work though. ::)
Im trying to watch Corrie. ;D
Yeah...Jeff finally got what was coming. Yay! ;D
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Hamilton has had the best car for the last couple of seasons. He has been in F1 for fourteen years. ::)
Nah....it's the car. ;D
Apparently it can't be him or the car as both are 'British'... ::)
Mercedes engines are British? I think people can see how little you know now. I rest my case. :y
Yes they are. Built by Ilmor engineering in Northants apparently. :P
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Im not at work though. ::)
Im trying to watch Corrie. ;D
Yeah...Jeff finally got what was coming. Yay! ;D
You too eh ? ::)
Bloody took long enough. ;D
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The team is based in Brackers, ergo, it is 'British'.
Fact check that :D
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Yeah, just like Toyota, Nissan and Tata...all British. :y
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
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Afaik the only one that isnt is Ferrari. Not sure about Alfa / Ferrari B team though. They could be Italian I suppose.
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
I wonder what brexit might do to that :-\
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The team is based in Brackers, ergo, it is 'British'.
Fact check that :D
Can't get away from the fickin place, on bargain hunt now.
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
I wonder what brexit might do to that :-\
Probably nothing... There's barely one race a year here as it is :D
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
I wonder what brexit might do to that :-\
Probably nothing... There's barely one race a year here as it is :D
Ok...but don't the team return to base during, say, a two week layoff? Don't they have to ship parts from there? :-\
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Yes, and it wasnt a very competitive car. Particularly against the Newey designed Red bull, which was untouchable. Hence Vettels four titles during that time. :)
You keep reinforcing my argument. Vettel won because he was in the best car, so does Hamilton. ;D
......and so did Button.
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Button just used to plod around in about 12th place.
He then gets the best car and........... ::)
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
I wonder what brexit might do to that :-\
Most F1 teams were based here pre EU, for the same reasons they are now, so.......
Its like all those luvvie celebs who joined a campaign to ensure the entertainment industry wasnt destroyed because we arent in the EU.
We werent in the EU in the 60,s and I think British entertainment was reasonably popular then.
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
I wonder what brexit might do to that :-\
Probably nothing... There's barely one race a year here as it is :D
Ok...but don't the team return to base during, say, a two week layoff? Don't they have to ship parts from there? :-\
Depends. Less than half the races are in the EU/Europe at the moment. They do tend to return to base between Euro races if there is a long enough gap, but for the fly-aways by the time they've packed everything away, loaded it onto airliners, flown it to the next place, and unloaded and unpacked it - it's time for the next race anyway.
AIUI teams typically start to arrive on the Wednesday before a race, and leave the following Monday. So with the profusion of back to back races this season they haven't really got back to base at all.
Flying out of parts is done on commercial airliners - often as hand baggage where possible. That tends to be reserved for urgent stuff where someone has stuffed it into the Arnco - twice.
The real 'brains' behind an F1 team (excluding top management obvs!) often don't actually attend the races. They're at the factory working on upgrades or next years car. The factory will be where they can get the best engineering staff.
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A lot of F1 teams are UK based as its something this country is good at :y :y
I think Toyota motorsport was based in Germany
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Hamilton cleared to compete this weekend.
Russell back to Williams ( unless Bottas offers to swap) ;D
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Hamilton cleared to compete this weekend.
Russell back to Williams ( unless Bottas offers to swap) ;D
Saw that,shame as I was hoping to see Russell have another go
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I have mixed feelings about that. Hamilton has already sewn up this season, although I like to see him add to his tally of starts / poles / wins.
On the other hand it would have been nice to see young George get another shot this weekend, with his confidence boosted and without catastrophic pit stops etc. he suffered from last weekend.
Maybe Toto doesnt fancy the prospect of Bottas crying in the corner, and having a nervous breakdown after the race. ::) ;D
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Hamilton would have been happy to let young George have another go..........if he had been less than impressive.
Reminds me of the old work moral about being indispensable.
"Take a day off and you'll see how much you are missed".....but...... "Take a month off and you'll see they can do just fine without you" :)
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Yeah, yeah. ::)
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It's the car. ;D
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I know. You told me the other day. :y ;D
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I know. You told me the other day. :y ;D
Well..at your age..I thought you might have forgot ;D
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Saw that,shame as I was hoping to see Russell have another go
Reading between the lines, that maybe happening soon....
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1369750/Valtteri-Bottas-Mercedes-George-Russell-Williams-Instagram
Judging by last weekends performance, maybe Merc swapped their Instagram feeds as well ;)
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Interesting. :y
Bottas made a press statement yesterday saying his performance has been below par recently and needed to improve.
He also announced that the Pope is a Catholic, and bears defecate in areas where there are lots of trees. ::)
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Interesting. :y
Bottas made a press statement yesterday saying his performance has been below par recently and needed to improve.
He also announced that the Pope is a Catholic, and bears defecate in areas where there are lots of trees. ::)
Hamilton against Russell at Mercedes could prove interesting.
History tells us the young pretender is usually victorious.
I think Hamilton would rather stick with Valium Valtteri. ::)
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Interesting. :y
Bottas made a press statement yesterday saying his performance has been below par recently and needed to improve.
He also announced that the Pope is a Catholic, and bears defecate in areas where there are lots of trees. ::)
Hamilton against Russell at Mercedes could prove interesting.
History tells us the young pretender is usually victorious.
I think Hamilton would rather stick with Valium Valtteri. ::)
Are the cars the same?
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Well they’re the same colour :y
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Verstappen should win today. Hamilton is under par, might not actually last the distance. And all Mercedes engined cars have had the wick turned down due to some glitch or other, and they are at the end of their useful life.
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Very boring race as is usual out there
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It was, but just about to start on SKY F1 is a programme about when Hamilton and Rossi swapped machines.
Im looking forward to that. :)
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Oh well, it was Verstappen's turn to have the best car today, but Hamilton will have the best car again soon. It's the car that wins the race, you see.
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Ive always said so. Glad you agree. :y ;D
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Ive always said so. Glad you agree. :y ;D
Good, no need for further discussion on that one, then :)
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Absolutely. :y
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Except to say, I should have listened to you all along ;D
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Modesty prevents me from answering. ;D
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Oh well, it was Verstappen's turn to have the best car today, but Hamilton will have the best car again soon. It's the car that wins the race, you see.
Alonso reckons virtually anyone from the grid can win in the Mercedes. :)
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F*ucking dull race. Moto GP is so much more exciting.
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F*ucking dull race. Moto GP is so much more exciting.
It was over quick, though, at x6 playback on the recording :)
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Oh well, it was Verstappen's turn to have the best car today, but Hamilton will have the best car again soon. It's the car that wins the race, you see.
Alonso reckons virtually anyone from the grid can win in the Mercedes. :)
Well he wouldnt if Hamilton was in the other one. ;D Hamilton made him look very ordinary in his rookie year. Drove Alonso to distraction.
That was when he tried to blackmail Ron Dennis into team orders, and the McClaren / Ferrari gate scandal erupted.
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I can't see 'old man Alsonso' coming back in 2021 and setting the world of F1 alight.
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I can't see 'old man Alsonso' coming back in 2021 and setting the world of F1 alight.
Even the novice can tell which car Alonso is in...the one with the massive helmet. ;D