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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 December 2021, 11:05:43
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Seems he cant put a foot right these days. The Tories have just lost a very safe seat, in a huge protest vote against them / him.
He has been called a greased piglet before, ofr his abilityy to slip out of any situation he gets himself into, but is he near the end now ?
And does he care, if he is ?
No doubt the vultures are now circling, but the big question is, who to replace him with ?
Liz Truss ? Dishy Rishi ?
Cant see a potentially great leader anywhere on the horizon myself.
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Rishi is favourite with the bookies. Liz Truss? God, please, no.
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Rishi wont continue to be popular though, when he starts to claw back the money he has been spraying at all & sundry for the last 18 months.
If Boris had any sense he would surround himself with a team of bright capable people to actually make the decisions, with him as a figurehead who tell the public all about the decisions and claim them as his own, as any self respecting politician does.
Needs to inform Carrie Antionette, that being his Mrs. doesnt mean she is a part of the govt.
It seems her pink shade of Toryism influences much of what he does now, and it aint going down well.
He is a good cheerleader, and wins elections, but he isnt a great leader.
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He was never Prime Minister material. He got in, essentially because of he ready made deal for Brexit... ...and that was a complete, utter lie, that has been a fuster cluck since.
People, including myself, were giving him the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he was a clever man acting stupid. But the truth is out that only half that statement is true.
And the liberal leftie he's shagging really doesn't help matters.
He's toast. He's even making wee Sturgeon look almost competent, playing into the SNP's desire for independence.
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The end is close for Bunter.
However, there is not a huge amount of talent to replace him.
Starmer also got a kicking....and the Libs will never form a government so the PM may be safe for now.
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Steve Baker?
Jeremy Hunt ( phoenix?)
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Steve Baker?
Jeremy Hunt ( phoenix?)
Stands a chance.
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Cummings has lots of info and will constantly drip feed it to the media so there will be scandal after scandal and the letters will be going into the 1922 committee. ::)
Boris should have told his bint to keep quiet and do some charity work or something and kept Cummings close. :)
As for his replacement, I quiet like Sir Desmond Swayne! ;D
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Whe we would like, and who has any realistic prospects of getting the job are two very different things. ;)
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Cummings has lots of info and will constantly drip feed it to the media so there will be scandal after scandal and the letters will be going into the 1922 committee. ::)
Boris should have told his bint to keep quiet and do some charity work or something and kept Cummings close. :)
As for his replacement, I quiet like Sir Desmond Swayne! ;D
https://youtu.be/ecK0nX3nPAI (https://youtu.be/ecK0nX3nPAI)
There you go, Tig. :)
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To be fair, the standard of our political leaders has been abysmal for quite some time.
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To be fair, the standard of our political leaders has been abysmal for quite some time.
They're Tories. So, the cheapest politicians money can buy.
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To be fair, the standard of our political leaders has been abysmal for quite some time.
They're Tories. So, the cheapest politicians money can buy.
True..... and Boris is a bumbling buffoon. But the alternative is Keir 'men also have a cervix and vagina' Starmer. :(
Not quite sure where the country will go from here. >:(
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I reckon if we had Sir Des as PM, he'd get on like a house on fire with Trumpy when he comes back in '24! :y ;D
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I reckon if we had Sir Des as PM, he'd get on like a house on fire with Trumpy when he comes back in '24! :y ;D
Apparently Biden will still be there in 2028......which will make him 142 years old.
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I reckon if we had Sir Des as PM, he'd get on like a house on fire with Trumpy when he comes back in '24! :y ;D
Apparently Biden will still be there in 2028......which will make him 142 years old.
Doubt it. He's clearly not all there now let alone 2028! :-X ;D
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I reckon if we had Sir Des as PM, he'd get on like a house on fire with Trumpy when he comes back in '24! :y ;D
Apparently Biden will still be there in 2028......which will make him 142 years old.
Doubt it. He's clearly not all there now let alone 2028! :-X ;D
Correct....but the MSM in the US will not mention this.
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I reckon if we had Sir Des as PM, he'd get on like a house on fire with Trumpy when he comes back in '24! :y ;D
Apparently Biden will still be there in 2028......which will make him 142 years old.
Doubt it. He's clearly not all there now let alone 2028! :-X ;D
Correct....but the MSM in the US will not mention this.
No, the MSM are covering for him. >:(
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I reckon if we had Sir Des as PM, he'd get on like a house on fire with Trumpy when he comes back in '24! :y ;D
Apparently Biden will still be there in 2028......which will make him 142 years old.
Doubt it. He's clearly not all there now let alone 2028! :-X ;D
Correct....but the MSM in the US will not mention this.
No, the MSM are covering for him. >:(
and have been for the last three years :-X
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Anyone who put Donald out of the game is okay by me.
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Anyone who put Donald out of the game is okay by me.
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What's happened to Donald ? Seems to have disappeared completely , mind that's not a bad thing sectioned perhaps 😁
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The Tories keep giving Labour open goals and yet they still can't win , doesn't say much about their chances in another election :(
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The Tories keep giving Labour open goals and yet they still can't win , doesn't say much about their chances in another election :(
Election not due till 2024. In 2023 Rishi will cut taxes and increase pensions, game over, usually.
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The Tories keep giving Labour open goals and yet they still can't win , doesn't say much about their chances in another election :(
Election not due till 2024. In 2023 Rishi will cut taxes and increase pensions, game over, usually.
Unless he has to furlough everyone again :-X
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I suspect Donald will be back.
As for Boris. The May council elections will be the tester for him. If the Tories get hammered he,s a dead man walking imo.
If he has pulled things around by then he might be ok.
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I suspect Donald will be back.
As for Boris. The May council elections will be the tester for him. If the Tories get hammered he,s a dead man walking imo.
If he has pulled things around by then he might be ok.
Yep the difference between Boris and Donald is that Donald never lost his core voters and got a record number of votes for a sitting President last year.
Boris on the other hand has totally pissed off his core voters with tax rises, uncontrolled illegal immigration, green crap, parties, handling of covid, corruption etc.
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I suspect Donald will be back.
As for Boris. The May council elections will be the tester for him. If the Tories get hammered he,s a dead man walking imo.
If he has pulled things around by then he might be ok.
Yep the difference between Boris and Donald is that Donald never lost his core voters and got a record number of votes for a sitting President last year.
Boris on the other hand has totally pissed off his core voters with tax rises, uncontrolled illegal immigration, green crap, parties, handling of covid, corruption etc.
That's not the difference: the US President is elected directly(sort of, via the electoral college). The UK Prime Minister is not elected to that position, but attains it by being leader of the majority party in the commons. It's not even his 'real' job! Party leaders are traditionally given utterly safe seats, and the other parties have unwritten agreements not to contest them too much. Which means Boris' voters are his constituents in Middlesex and Ruislip.
The people he has to be careful of are the Tory MPs who select the candidates that the Tory membership elect. Once he loses the MPs support he's finished: look at Cameron, Major and Thatcher.
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I suspect Donald will be back.
As for Boris. The May council elections will be the tester for him. If the Tories get hammered he,s a dead man walking imo.
If he has pulled things around by then he might be ok.
Yep the difference between Boris and Donald is that Donald never lost his core voters and got a record number of votes for a sitting President last year.
Boris on the other hand has totally pissed off his core voters with tax rises, uncontrolled illegal immigration, green crap, parties, handling of covid, corruption etc.
That's not the difference: the US President is elected directly(sort of, via the electoral college). The UK Prime Minister is not elected to that position, but attains it by being leader of the majority party in the commons. It's not even his 'real' job! Party leaders are traditionally given utterly safe seats, and the other parties have unwritten agreements not to contest them too much. Which means Boris' voters are his constituents in Middlesex and Ruislip.
The people he has to be careful of are the Tory MPs who select the candidates that the Tory membership elect. Once he loses the MPs support he's finished: look at Cameron, Major and Thatcher.
Of course it's the difference. ::)
Once the Tory MP's decide that Boris has irrevocably lost the party faithful, the knives will come out and he'll be finished.
Look at Theresa May!
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I suspect Donald will be back.
As for Boris. The May council elections will be the tester for him. If the Tories get hammered he,s a dead man walking imo.
If he has pulled things around by then he might be ok.
Yep the difference between Boris and Donald is that Donald never lost his core voters and got a record number of votes for a sitting President last year.
Boris on the other hand has totally pissed off his core voters with tax rises, uncontrolled illegal immigration, green crap, parties, handling of covid, corruption etc.
That's not the difference: the US President is elected directly(sort of, via the electoral college). The UK Prime Minister is not elected to that position, but attains it by being leader of the majority party in the commons. It's not even his 'real' job! Party leaders are traditionally given utterly safe seats, and the other parties have unwritten agreements not to contest them too much. Which means Boris' voters are his constituents in Middlesex and Ruislip.
The people he has to be careful of are the Tory MPs who select the candidates that the Tory membership elect. Once he loses the MPs support he's finished: look at Cameron, Major and Thatcher.
Of course it's the difference. ::)
Once the Tory MP's decide that Boris has irrevocably lost the party faithful, the knives will come out and he'll be finished.
Look at Theresa May!
Do I have to?
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Being PM seems to really age people :o
Bozzle looks about twenty years older than when he started :-\
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Being PM seems to really age people :o
Bozzle looks about twenty years older than when he started :-\
To be fair he's had quite a lot to grapple with over the last couple of years, and also having babies in your mid fifties. Those sleepless nights! ::)
No wonder he's addled! ;D
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Being PM seems to really age people :o
Bozzle looks about twenty years older than when he started :-\
It's the first job he's ever had where results matter, and he's held responsible for any failures. And it turns out that being a well thought of leader is harder than it looks and takes real talent. On top of all that, his bumbling posh boy schtick no longer works.
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Same as any politician really muddle their way through "jobs for the boys" a few jaunts to different parts of the world all expenses paid nice pension at the end of it, any wonder none of them give a monkeys about the rabble.
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Breaking news this evening that Lord Frost has resigned over the political direction of Johnson's government.
Boris's back is truly up against the wall now and unless he really pulls rabbits out of the hats, can't have much longer left.
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Or has he simply resigned as Brexit Minister in anticipation of the end of that temporary role? ???
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Or has he simply resigned as Brexit Minister in anticipation of the end of that temporary role? ???
I suspect like Brexit Ministers before him he was being undermined by Boris, Rishi and others in his quest to reorganise the Northern Ireland Protocol.
Although he has consistently threatened to invoke Article 16 of the NIP, I expect he was held back and the EU knew that. ::)
For example Anne Marie Trevelyan the International Trade Secretary said the other day that A16 wouldn't be invoked before Christmas, which was probably less than helpful and there have been reports that Rishi Sunak was against invoking A16, whether true or not, someone in the Treasury briefed this to the media. :(
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Thinking about who could replace Boris, THIS (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10324663/PETER-HITCHENS-return-Tony-Blair-really-nightmare-Christmas.html) really sent a shiver down my spine! :o >:(
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Thinking about who could replace Boris, THIS (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10324663/PETER-HITCHENS-return-Tony-Blair-really-nightmare-Christmas.html) really sent a shiver down my spine! :o >:(
And with the current 'emergency' measures, how long would it take for him to carry on where he left off?
And how horrific would that adjustment be given the time passed since we escaped the clutches of Ton E B Liar and his inumerate accountant?
The US comparison doesn't bode well given the level of upheavals caused by Sippy Cup doing nothing except trying to erase any evidence of Trumps' presidency. And he was only in office for four years... :-\
If Ton E B Liar does stick his head over the parapet, hopefully someone will give him a shove.
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Just Hitchens getting carried away - again. The little old UK is far to small and Parochial for the God Like B. Liar to waste his time on.
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Just Hitchens getting carried away - again. The little old UK is far to small and Parochial for the God Like B. Liar to waste his time on.
Not just Hitchens getting carried away ;D