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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Skrunts on 04 April 2022, 22:27:50
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Seeing a lot of posts on social media about towns in our area changeing the roads to accomadate cycling lanes.
I dont begrudge them thier own space at all, but some of the proposals are leaving less space for road users that generally use the road properly and pay Tax/MOT and insurance for the right to do so.
A lot of cyclists abuse the highway code, have no certification to use the road and dont pay insurance.
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and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !
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and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !
There are several good reasons why we don't.
The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that they are dangerous.
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I would take that up with the cabbage munching Snowflakes that designed them...
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I saw a brilliant newly completed narrow cycle lane here in Spain , in the middle between the lanes. There was a lampost bang in the middle. So it is not just a British problem.
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A lot of cyclists abuse the highway code, have no certification to use the road and dont pay insurance.
You've never driven in Middlesbrough, have you? :D
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I would take that up with the cabbage munching Snowflakes that designed them...
They are the same people that can't design roads for traffic.
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and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !
There are several good reasons why we don't.
The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that they are dangerous.
[/quoand some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !
There are several good reasons why we don't.
The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that tand some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !
There are several good reasons why we don't.
The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that they are dangerous.
Totally agree Nick, Sustrans gets the money to put the cycle ways in initially, but then there is little or no funds for the upkeep. Many around here are totally overgrown and are now under half the original width due to spreading vegetation. Also, the markings of the ones in town have virtually disappeared and the surfaces are dangerous with potholes and debris from the traffic.
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In the village where I grew up, the local council or highways pandered to the ‘Pedestrian and cycling action group’ and put a cycle lane where a cycle lane wouldn’t fit. That didn’t bother them, they just separated an already narrow road with another white dashed line for the cyclists. You couldn’t pass a cyclist without going in to the other lane anyway so nothing has changed. Near the centre of the village they then separated the cyclists from vehicles with a massive line of bollards.
Photo No.1 shows the width of the road and the dashed, shared space, cycle lane, splitting the lane in half. You can see the lines under the bus.
Photo No.2 shows the start of the bollards that separate the cyclists from vehicles.
Photo No.3 shows how they narrowed the lane so much with the white line and bollards that a vehicle doesn’t even fit in the lane, so vehicles have no option but to cross the road markings.
Who the hell comes up with this sort of shite. ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/X7kCzp7/5-A4-D480-D-60-FC-456-B-B52-B-EB4-E2-BC2-F6-B3.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/0MNX6kG/02-E85393-F7-B8-40-B3-848-E-5-DF8-EAA825-C7.png)(https://i.ibb.co/89zWP7h/40-D61-D6-A-9979-4415-B26-D-F5-E08-B80-E342.png)
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In the village where I grew up, the local council or highways pandered to the ‘Pedestrian and cycling action group’ and put a cycle lane where a cycle lane wouldn’t fit. That didn’t bother them, they just separated an already narrow road with another white dashed line for the cyclists. You couldn’t pass a cyclist without going in to the other lane anyway so nothing has changed. Near the centre of the village they then separated the cyclists from vehicles with a massive line of bollards.
Photo No.1 shows the width of the road and the dashed, shared space, cycle lane, splitting the lane in half. You can see the lines under the bus.
Photo No.2 shows the start of the bollards that separate the cyclists from vehicles.
Photo No.3 shows how they narrowed the lane so much with the white line and bollards that a vehicle doesn’t even fit in the lane, so vehicles have no option but to cross the road markings.
Who the hell comes up with this sort of shite. ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/X7kCzp7/5-A4-D480-D-60-FC-456-B-B52-B-EB4-E2-BC2-F6-B3.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/0MNX6kG/02-E85393-F7-B8-40-B3-848-E-5-DF8-EAA825-C7.png)(https://i.ibb.co/89zWP7h/40-D61-D6-A-9979-4415-B26-D-F5-E08-B80-E342.png)
Who in Gods name sanctioned that configuration in pic 3. ;D ::)
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i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.
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i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.
Ze Germans always follow ze rules! ::) ;D
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i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.
Ze Germans always follow ze rules! ::) ;D
That's much easier to do when the rules have some sense behind them. Painting some random lines on the road and chucking a few signs along the pavement does not make worthwhile a cycle lane. It's a politician's 'solution'; spend some money, get a physical thing and take the credit before you lose your seat.
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i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.
Ze Germans always follow ze rules! ::) ;D
That's much easier to do when the rules have some sense behind them. Painting some random lines on the road and chucking a few signs along the pavement does not make worthwhile a cycle lane. It's a politician's 'solution'; spend some money, get a physical thing and take the credit before you lose your seat.
No I think Ze Germans would obey and follow the lines and signs if they took them over a cliff! ;D
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i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.
Ze Germans always follow ze rules! ::) ;D
That's much easier to do when the rules have some sense behind them. Painting some random lines on the road and chucking a few signs along the pavement does not make worthwhile a cycle lane. It's a politician's 'solution'; spend some money, get a physical thing and take the credit before you lose your seat.
Yes as long as they tick the box this bunch of jokers think it’s ok
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Has anyone on here seen Cycling Mikey on YouTube? I think the way he challenges some of the arsehole drivers is great but can't help thinking one day he will pick on the wrong person & the situation will go badly wrong.
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
I have nothing against the majority of cyclists, just the arrogant Lady bitss. They are the ones with the camera.
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
I have nothing against the majority of cyclists, just the arrogant Lady bitss. They are the ones with the camera.
They are the same people who drive Audis and BMWs badly.
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
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I’m not entirely sure but I think that sort of action is frowned upon. :-\
;D ;D
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
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I’m not entirely sure but I think that sort of action is frowned upon. :-\
;D ;D
It certainly is in your neck of the woods... ...try to use the pavement or pedestrian crossing when walking in Oxford, you will get a heap of verbal abuse from cyclists. How dare pedestrians use pavements and crossing in Oxford.
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
I have nothing against the majority of cyclists, just the arrogant Lady bitss. They are the ones with the camera.
They are the same people who drive Audis and BMWs badly.
Or VWs or Mercs. In these parts, the knobjockeys are invariably driving VW or Mercs.
BMWs are pretty rare here now.
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Cycling Mikey appears to concentrate on mobile phone users & those drivers that think keep left signs don't apply to them, the guy has got balls, and loads of prosecutions have been successful on his evidence he's great.
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
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I’m not entirely sure but I think that sort of action is frowned upon. :-\
;D ;D
It certainly is in your neck of the woods... ...try to use the pavement or pedestrian crossing when walking in Oxford, you will get a heap of verbal abuse from cyclists. How dare pedestrians use pavements and crossing in Oxford.
Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads. ;D
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
…….
I’m not entirely sure but I think that sort of action is frowned upon. :-\
;D ;D
It certainly is in your neck of the woods... ...try to use the pavement or pedestrian crossing when walking in Oxford, you will get a heap of verbal abuse from cyclists. How dare pedestrians use pavements and crossing in Oxford.
Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads. ;D
You should try Ashford town centre, where they followed a Dutch idea and removed all of the road markings, pavements and signs, then scattered random road furniture everywhere. The theory was that every road user would then be equal.
I don't think they meant every road user to be equally terrified that they were about to run over/be run over/etc, but that's what happened. Perhaps the actual idea was to distract attention away from the similarly notorious one way system?
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
…….
I’m not entirely sure but I think that sort of action is frowned upon. :-\
;D ;D
It certainly is in your neck of the woods... ...try to use the pavement or pedestrian crossing when walking in Oxford, you will get a heap of verbal abuse from cyclists. How dare pedestrians use pavements and crossing in Oxford.
Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads. ;D
Yeah. Right. Me and the traffic wardens in your town have never been in harmony ;D. One evening, I took one of them out for a drink and a bit of supper in the hope I'd get into her good books... ...and she slapped a ticket on me the very next morning. Bitch ;D
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If I see a cyclist with a camera on their helmet, I know they are going to be an arrogant arsehole.
The key is to mow them down without it being caught on camera. Then reversing back over them, just to ensure the job is done.
…….
I’m not entirely sure but I think that sort of action is frowned upon. :-\
;D ;D
It certainly is in your neck of the woods... ...try to use the pavement or pedestrian crossing when walking in Oxford, you will get a heap of verbal abuse from cyclists. How dare pedestrians use pavements and crossing in Oxford.
Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads. ;D
You should try Ashford town centre, where they followed a Dutch idea and removed all of the road markings, pavements and signs, then scattered random road furniture everywhere. The theory was that every road user would then be equal.
I don't think they meant every road user to be equally terrified that they were about to run over/be run over/etc, but that's what happened. Perhaps the actual idea was to distract attention away from the similarly notorious one way system?
In these parts, they have a real fascination with putting traffic lights on roundabouts, crossroads and junctions (because stupid stop/start cars can't pull out until rush hour stops), which causes tailbacks everywhere. Except when the traffic lights fail/sabotaged/burned, when all the traffic flows freely, with a bit of give and take....
...until you get a VW/Merc driver ;D
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Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads . ;D
Yep, just had a quick look on street view and even our High Street doesn’t have any white lines. As I said, we travel in harmony with others. :y ;D
Oh, and no traffic wardens now, just a man with a pad and a pen to check you don’t park for more than three hours. :y
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Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads . ;D
Yep, just had a quick look on street view and even our High Street doesn’t have any white lines. As I said, we travel in harmony with others. :y ;D
Plenty of double yellow lines though ;D
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Thankfully I’m not near Oxford, and never go there, although I used to work on the outskirts. Where I live we all walk, ride and drive in harmony, with none of these silly road markings. In fact, now I come to think about it, we don’t have any road markings at all on most of the roads . ;D
Yep, just had a quick look on street view and even our High Street doesn’t have any white lines. As I said, we travel in harmony with others. :y ;D
Plenty of double yellow lines though ;D
Oh yeh, I forgot about the yellow lines. :y ;D
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We're they hidden by the speed limit signs? :D
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We're they hidden by the speed limit signs? :D
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Actually, it’s funny you mention that. Also in the village where I grew up, to go with their ridiculous cycle lane, they have put green 20mph signs below the normal 30mph signs. They have no legal standing, so even I’m safe to ignore them. ;D :y
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We're they hidden by the speed limit signs? :D
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Actually, it’s funny you mention that. Also in the village where I grew up, to go with their ridiculous cycle lane, they have put green 20mph signs below the normal 30mph signs. They have no legal standing, so even I’m safe to ignore them. ;D :y
20 + 30 = 50 ;)
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We're they hidden by the speed limit signs? :D
;D ;D
Actually, it’s funny you mention that. Also in the village where I grew up, to go with their ridiculous cycle lane, they have put green 20mph signs below the normal 30mph signs. They have no legal standing, so even I’m safe to ignore them. ;D :y
20 + 30 = 50 ;)
+10% :D