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Title: Amazon
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 11 April 2022, 02:59:03
Amazon driver 'told to finish shift' after suffering heart attack behind the wheel

Sounds about right for Amazon :-X
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2022, 04:41:38
Anyone buying from this company is complicit. Their greed has no limit.

Although that driver was probably a self employed contractor renting a van of a 'subcontractor' to Amazon, rendering Amazon immune from any direct culpability.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: addy on 11 April 2022, 08:16:39
The hospital will keep him in untill they are happy to discharge him. And they will not let him drive. Untill such times they are happy, that he is safe to do so. If he does drive, more fool him as he could possibly lose his licence, also his insurance company will not cover him, in the event of a accident. It was ages before the hospital let me drive. Now I am going through a medical again, to see if I will lose licence completely, as they aren't happy with some things.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Rangie on 11 April 2022, 09:26:34
Amazon driver 'told to finish shift' after suffering heart attack behind the wheel

Sounds about right for Amazon :-X


As an adult you don't ask permission to go to the hospital if you feel unwell, you go and that's how simple it is what a numpty
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: YZ250 on 11 April 2022, 14:55:02
.......
Now I am going through a medical again, to see if I will lose licence completely, as they aren't happy with some things.

Oh dear, sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed it turns out well for you.  :y
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 11 April 2022, 19:20:10
Anyone buying from this company is complicit. Their greed has no limit.

Although that driver was probably a self employed contractor renting a van of a 'subcontractor' to Amazon, rendering Amazon immune from any direct culpability.
I don't think they are any better or worse than anywhere else to be honest.  I seem to recall that Amazon don't make a huge amount from the side of things that consumers consider to be "Amazon".  So costs have to be kept down, which always ends in stories of how bad a company are to their staff.


In this case, most Amazon liveried vans actually belong to 3rd party couriers who work exclusively to Amazon Logistics (who also deliver for other companies, not just that tat sold on Amazon's sites).
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 11 April 2022, 19:21:32
Now I am going through a medical again, to see if I will lose licence completely, as they aren't happy with some things.
Hope that goes well.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2022, 19:30:21
Anyone buying from this company is complicit. Their greed has no limit.

Although that driver was probably a self employed contractor renting a van of a 'subcontractor' to Amazon, rendering Amazon immune from any direct culpability.
I don't think they are any better or worse than anywhere else to be honest.  I seem to recall that Amazon don't make a huge amount from the side of things that consumers consider to be "Amazon".  So costs have to be kept down, which always ends in stories of how bad a company are to their staff.


In this case, most Amazon liveried vans actually belong to 3rd party couriers who work exclusively to Amazon Logistics (who also deliver for other companies, not just that tat sold on Amazon's sites).
Not that that is particularly legal in itself, as they dictate the shifts the couriers can work, so a self employed driver might only be allowed to work four days for Amazon, but have to then work for thee days delivering for Herpes etc...

They've recently started insisting that vans are liveried, rendering them unusable for half the week. And as the vans are generally leased from the 3rd party courier companies, said self employed drivers are screwed both ends.

All because people can't be arsed to go to the shops.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 11 April 2022, 19:42:23
The Amazon van is out side my house 3-4 days a week. What am I? A customer, not a bleeding heart who worries about amazons employment practices.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2022, 19:44:07
The Amazon van is out side my house 3-4 days a week. What am I? A customer, not a bleeding heart who worries about amazons employment practices.
Not a bleeding heart, but equally, not a customer. By choice.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Rangie on 11 April 2022, 20:00:32
The Amazon van is out side my house 3-4 days a week. What am I? A customer, not a bleeding heart who worries about amazons employment practices.


Exactly right nobody is forced to work for them , every person has the choice the same choice they have if they think they are having a "heart attack" why all the fuss about Amazon ? Some folk need to take control of their lives instead of saying " I've been treated so badly" pathetic .
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 10:44:36
All because people can't be arsed to go to the shops.
Well, due to the hoops that Oxfordshire* enforce to get into towns to go to the shops, it might not be physically or financially viable for some people ;).  Thus online shopping is the only way.


*I'm sure many other towns are the same.

Fortunately Brakkers is not run by such short sighted, self centred knobjockeys.  But we lack any shops, unless you want to buy curry or a house.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 10:57:18
All because people can't be arsed to go to the shops.
Well, due to the hoops that Oxfordshire* enforce to get into towns to go to the shops, it might not be physically or financially viable for some people ;).  Thus online shopping is the only way.


*I'm sure many other towns are the same.

Fortunately Brakkers is not run by such short sighted, self centred knobjockeys.  But we lack any shops, unless you want to buy curry or a house.
I will wager that said leftie council buys just as much crap off Amazon as STEMO. Obviously when their deliveries are made more expensive to cover their ecomental bans and charges, it won't occur to them that they did that :-X
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 11:54:18
All because people can't be arsed to go to the shops.
Well, due to the hoops that Oxfordshire* enforce to get into towns to go to the shops, it might not be physically or financially viable for some people ;).  Thus online shopping is the only way.


*I'm sure many other towns are the same.

Fortunately Brakkers is not run by such short sighted, self centred knobjockeys.  But we lack any shops, unless you want to buy curry or a house.
I will wager that said leftie council buys just as much crap off Amazon as STEMO. Obviously when their deliveries are made more expensive to cover their ecomental bans and charges, it won't occur to them that they did that :-X
I don't buy crap, I buy decent stuff. Cheaper than at high street retailers, without the waiting and planet killing driving.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 13:12:06
All because people can't be arsed to go to the shops.
Well, due to the hoops that Oxfordshire* enforce to get into towns to go to the shops, it might not be physically or financially viable for some people ;).  Thus online shopping is the only way.


*I'm sure many other towns are the same.

Fortunately Brakkers is not run by such short sighted, self centred knobjockeys.  But we lack any shops, unless you want to buy curry or a house.
I will wager that said leftie council buys just as much crap off Amazon as STEMO. Obviously when their deliveries are made more expensive to cover their ecomental bans and charges, it won't occur to them that they did that :-X
I'm guessing you've never been into Oxford City?  They would buy from the local artisan Oxford shops at six times the price....
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 13:14:52
I don't buy crap, I buy decent stuff. Cheaper than at high street retailers, without the waiting and planet killing driving.
I don't find Amazon particularly cheap a lot of them time.  And for non Prime customer, there is the added postage tax.  But if they are cost effective for something I want, I have no issues at all buying from them.

Far more wary of buying from Amazon Marketplace sellers, even if dispatched by Amazon.  Thats a bit like buying from egay.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 14:12:11
I don't buy crap, I buy decent stuff. Cheaper than at high street retailers, without the waiting and planet killing driving.
I don't find Amazon particularly cheap a lot of them time.  And for non Prime customer, there is the added postage tax.  But if they are cost effective for something I want, I have no issues at all buying from them.

Far more wary of buying from Amazon Marketplace sellers, even if dispatched by Amazon.  Thats a bit like buying from egay.
I pay for prime and, as Barnsley is not a black hole, my stuff always comes next day. I recently bought an Apple Watch for SWMBO at £50 cheaper than anywhere else I could find, that's just one example. But, even if I pay the same as high street prices, I still don't have to get off my fat arse.  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Rangie on 12 April 2022, 15:39:15
We've used it a few times got some very good buys over the years always the same guy delivering no issues whatsoever can't really see what the issue is with some folk , as Steve says saves driving into town & parking & wandering about they're a business and expect to make a profit that's what it's all about the lockdown definitely worked in their favour.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 April 2022, 18:43:01
Most of what they sell on there seems to originate from China, so we are giving China the money to rule the world.
Having said that its probably not that different in many shops, so it isnt easy to avoid Chinese tat.
I do try though.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 18:51:13
Most of what they sell on there seems to originate from China, so we are giving China the money to rule the world.
Having said that its probably not that different in many shops, so it isnt easy to avoid Chinese tat.
I do try though.
Most of the shitty tat originates in China, but people only buy that because it's top of the page and cheap. If you can be bothered to look for branded goods, they are there. But this was Gollums point, most people want to buy the shite, because it's cheap.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 18:52:36
I won't have an Amazon or Facebook account as long as I have a hole in my arse.

Not adverse to buying online, just prefer to avoid Amazon as I have an aversion to companies whose business motto is to be the ONLY supplier of what they do. DHL also falls into that category.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 18:55:15
I won't have an Amazon or Facebook account as long as I have a hole in my arse.

Not adverse to buying online, just prefer to avoid Amazon as I have an aversion to companies whose business motto is to be the ONLY supplier of what they do. DHL also falls into that category.
Your principles won't make a jot of difference to their bottom line, but could inconvenience you. That's why I adopt the CBA attitude.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:12:50
It doesn't inconvenience me. Because I don't use them.

For all their claims of being essential and providing opportunities across the globe, these companies would use drones and robots in a heartbeat. Just to make money. And I don't mean reasonable profit, or even satisfying shareholders, but they want to own the population and fundamentally control them. They already suggest what you watch and buy, next they will tell you by way of product substitution, a per your contract with them. Then they will control what you buy, how much and when. And if you think that is melodramatic, ask yourself why Jeff Bezos et al own so much agricultural land.

It’s basically a social engineering project that you didn't even realise you were a part of, and your subscription funds it.

Unfortunately, I think it is beyond stopping, but I will not be a part of it.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:16:07
Dear me, you do get carried away  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:21:49
Dear me, you do get carried away  ;D
Perhaps. But disagreement does not make me wrong ;)
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:26:22
Dear me, you do get carried away  ;D
Perhaps. But disagreement does not make me wrong ;)
Nor right, and we'll have to rely on past performance here  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 19:27:07
Most of what they sell on there seems to originate from China, so we are giving China the money to rule the world.
Having said that its probably not that different in many shops, so it isnt easy to avoid Chinese tat.
I do try though.
Most of the shitty tat originates in China, but people only buy that because it's top of the page and cheap. If you can be bothered to look for branded goods, they are there. But this was Gollums point, most people want to buy the shite, because it's cheap.
You'll probably find the branded stuff is also made in Ching Chong Rhineland as well.  Well, was before their manufacturing centre locked down last month.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:29:27
Most of what they sell on there seems to originate from China, so we are giving China the money to rule the world.
Having said that its probably not that different in many shops, so it isnt easy to avoid Chinese tat.
I do try though.
Most of the shitty tat originates in China, but people only buy that because it's top of the page and cheap. If you can be bothered to look for branded goods, they are there. But this was Gollums point, most people want to buy the shite, because it's cheap.
You'll probably find the branded stuff is also made in Ching Chong Rhineland as well.  Well, was before their manufacturing centre locked down last month.
Yes, of course, but you'll get that whether you shop on Amazon or the high street. They make everything and, despite Albs' protestations, you won't avoid buying Chinese by shopping around.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 19:30:37
I pay for prime and, as Barnsley is not a black hole, my stuff always comes next day. I recently bought an Apple Watch for SWMBO at £50 cheaper than anywhere else I could find, that's just one example. But, even if I pay the same as high street prices, I still don't have to get off my fat arse.  ;D
I don't, so to get "free" delivery, I either have to bump the order up to £20 (which I won't) or many of their items they will deliver free to a drop off point...   ...which means I still have to get off my arse and walk/drive into town ;D


I too bought a crApple product from Amshambles this week, because it was about £60 cheaper than I could get it with access to the crApple's employee store...
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:39:54
At some point you will ask yourself why.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:43:04
At some point you will ask yourself why.
Will you behave yourself?  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:46:32
Case in point Mother's Kindle has stopped holding a charge. It is about 8 years old  ::)

Looks at the new Fire 8/10. To get it ad 'free' you either pay extra (and still get Amazon ads or you save £70 and lump it.

New Lenovo 10" tablet with significantly more Ram and storage, like 4x more, for £30 more than the cheaper Fire 8.

Kindle down loaded from Play store, for free. And voilà, one large screen eReader (that is capable of much more) without any of Amazons BS.

Incidentally, a case for it was cheaper from Lenovo than buying an aftermarket one from Amazon.

And both delivered next day, but someone else. It's the little wins...  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:52:34
Case in point Mother's Kindle has stopped holding a charge. It is about 8 years old  ::)

Looks at the new Fire 8/10. To get it ad 'free' you either pay extra (and still get Amazon ads or you save £70 and lump it.

New Lenovo 10" tablet with significantly more Ram and storage, like 4x more, for £30 more than the cheaper Fire 8.

Kindle down loaded from Play store, for free. And voilà, one large screen eReader (that is capable of much more) without any of Amazons BS.

Incidentally, a case for it was cheaper from Lenovo than buying an aftermarket one from Amazon.

And both delivered next day, but someone else. It's the little wins...  ;D
Well done, chap. Did you do a little dance after that palaver?  ;D

And as for buying Chinese cases...tut, tut


Back to about 20 posts ago. I don't just buy for cheapness, although that is a consideration, I buy for my own, lazy arsed convenience.
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:57:23
The case was a genuine one :P from the Lenovo shop. The tablet could have also come from there, but John Lewis was the preferred supplier of the end user...

Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:59:50
The case was a genuine one :P from the Lenovo shop. The tablet could have also come from there, but John Lewis was the preferred supplier of the end user...
A genuine Chinese lenovo case  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 20:00:12
Yes ;D

But it was more of an 'as long as it isn't from Amazon on principle' thing than an anti Chinesey one. After all most electronic stuff is made there but at least buy buying from a brand you have half a chance of it lasting more than five minutes/working as expected / having some sort of meaningful warranty as the official manufacturing has some semblance of quality control.  ;)
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: ronnyd on 12 April 2022, 20:55:55
Case in point Mother's Kindle has stopped holding a charge. It is about 8 years old  ::)

Looks at the new Fire 8/10. To get it ad 'free' you either pay extra (and still get Amazon ads or you save £70 and lump it.

New Lenovo 10" tablet with significantly more Ram and storage, like 4x more, for £30 more than the cheaper Fire 8.

Kindle down loaded from Play store, for free. And voilà, one large screen eReader (that is capable of much more) without any of Amazons BS.

Incidentally, a case for it was cheaper from Lenovo than buying an aftermarket one from Amazon.

And both delivered next day, but someone else. It's the little wins...  ;D
SWMBO's went tits up last year the one with the buttons on the side. She now has a Paperwhite version and she hates it.  ;D  Touch screen only, when she just moves her hand slightly, the page she is reading disappears. ::)
Title: Re: Amazon
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 21:02:11
Case in point Mother's Kindle has stopped holding a charge. It is about 8 years old  ::)

Looks at the new Fire 8/10. To get it ad 'free' you either pay extra (and still get Amazon ads or you save £70 and lump it.

New Lenovo 10" tablet with significantly more Ram and storage, like 4x more, for £30 more than the cheaper Fire 8.

Kindle down loaded from Play store, for free. And voilà, one large screen eReader (that is capable of much more) without any of Amazons BS.

Incidentally, a case for it was cheaper from Lenovo than buying an aftermarket one from Amazon.

And both delivered next day, but someone else. It's the little wins...  ;D
SWMBO's went tits up last year the one with the buttons on the side. She now has a Paperwhite version and she hates it.  ;D  Touch screen only, when she just moves her hand slightly, the page she is reading disappears. ::)
Tell her it's magic  ;D