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Title: Elon Musk
Post by: Varche on 06 January 2025, 10:16:59
What do you make of the guy?

He is clearly a very clever bloke - a string of successful companies plus his enormous wealth.

I think he has “ been there, done that” and is looking for something else …..Politics.  He isn’t eligible to be the POTUS. So the next best thing is to be power broker eg China and the West.

He has also been dabbling/ interfering in German and UK politics. It isn’t right that he can donate to a party especially not with his enormous wealth. I do however agree with him about Farage isn’t the man to lead Reform. To get the votes of the ordinary man who used to vote Tory needs a more rounded and less “ tainted” person in charge.

Overall , I am not an Elon Musk fan.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 January 2025, 10:50:36
It's no different than Labour sending assistance to the Democratic Party or Farage publicly supporting Trump.

That said, I don't think that Electric Jesus likes being told no, and he's had his nose put out of joint that Farage has made it quite clear that Tommy Robinson isn't fit to represent Reform... (He's  not  wrong).

What Elon doesn't seem to fully appreciate is that the UK isn't a part of rural Alabama and that whilst Reform as a party stems from Brexit, and whilst immigration control was a part of the argument to leave, we aren't actually racist and the principle behind Reform is to make our system of governance work for the people rather than the privileged few.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 January 2025, 12:18:04
Musky is quite fickle.

Within a very short period of time he has gone from £100 million to help Reform, to Farage is not up to the job. >:D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Rangie on 06 January 2025, 12:30:24
Musky is quite fickle.

Within a very short period of time he has gone from £100 million to help Reform, to Farage is not up to the job. >:D
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Backtracking, his mouth is making promises before he's engaging his brain.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 06 January 2025, 12:44:18
I was starting to like the guy, watched a lot on Youtube about him.

There is talk of a Tesla Mobile Phone, Planes, Boats even helicopters.  ::)

Technology wise he is a genius and has made a difference in a lot of areas.  :y

BUT, politics is an area he should keep out of (unless it's his own country.)  We all have opinions but don't forecast them bluntly over social media.  :-X
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Nick W on 06 January 2025, 13:02:13
Musk is a salesman with a very short attention span that has never had anyone say no to.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Varche on 06 January 2025, 13:43:25
It's no different than Labour sending assistance to the Democratic Party or Farage publicly supporting Trump.

I think it is different. The man uses money to buy votes.

He had a scheme in the US to incentivise financially voters in swing states. . Offering 100 million to a UK party? What is that other than "buying" votes.  People make donations to parties that suit their needs. That is fair enough BUT at what level would we say it is too much? a billion ? half a billion?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: STEMO on 06 January 2025, 15:45:05
He's a genius and a narcissist, not a very good combination.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 January 2025, 15:49:23
It's no different than Labour sending assistance to the Democratic Party or Farage publicly supporting Trump.

I think it is different. The man uses money to buy votes.

He had a scheme in the US to incentivise financially voters in swing states. . Offering 100 million to a UK party? What is that other than "buying" votes.  People make donations to parties that suit their needs. That is fair enough BUT at what level would we say it is too much? a billion ? half a billion?
Don't doubt for a second that that isn't happening the world over.

But don't see how that can be seen as buying votes, unless you have received cash from him personally in exchange for your vote ???
 Spending money is no guarantee of influence... Kamalala spent $1.5 Billion on her campaign and she's now unemployed.

I would be more concerned about the likes of Gates and Bezos buying up large swathes of agricultural land around the world.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 January 2025, 17:01:02
Yes none of the permanently outraged seemed at all concerned about Bill Gates and Blackrock's Larry Finks hobnobbing with TTK and Theeves in No 10 recently.  ::)

Wonder what was on offer?  ???
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Nick W on 06 January 2025, 18:14:40
100 million shows just how out of touch Musk is in British politics: it's a decent amount to buy a dog catcher in the States, but is about a million times more than any of our politicians are worth. Especially the ones known to be for sale, like Farage ::) .
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: redelitev6 on 06 January 2025, 18:21:39
It's no different than Labour sending assistance to the Democratic Party or Farage publicly supporting Trump.

That said, I don't think that Electric Jesus likes being told no, and he's had his nose put out of joint that Farage has made it quite clear that Tommy Robinson isn't fit to represent Reform... (He's  not  wrong).

What Elon doesn't seem to fully appreciate is that the UK isn't a part of rural Alabama and that whilst Reform as a party stems from Brexit, and whilst immigration control was a part of the argument to leave, we aren't actually racist and the principle behind Reform is to make our system of governance work for the people rather than the privileged few.
speak for yourself  ;D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: STEMO on 06 January 2025, 19:18:10
It's no different than Labour sending assistance to the Democratic Party or Farage publicly supporting Trump.

That said, I don't think that Electric Jesus likes being told no, and he's had his nose put out of joint that Farage has made it quite clear that Tommy Robinson isn't fit to represent Reform... (He's  not  wrong).

What Elon doesn't seem to fully appreciate is that the UK isn't a part of rural Alabama and that whilst Reform as a party stems from Brexit, and whilst immigration control was a part of the argument to leave, we aren't actually racist and the principle behind Reform is to make our system of governance work for the people rather than the privileged few.
speak for yourself  ;D
Yes, I wondered about that  ::)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 January 2025, 21:25:31
 ;D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 January 2025, 00:06:17
Yes none of the permanently outraged seemed at all concerned about Bill Gates and Blackrock's Larry Finks hobnobbing with TTK and Theeves in No 10 recently.  ::)

Wonder what was on offer?  ???

Dont forget George Soros funding the campaign to rejoin the EU, and funding the "charities" who help illegal immigrants stay in the UK once they arrive.
Add in just about any other liberal left  cause across the globe, and Soros money will be there somewhere.
Havent heard much outrage about that over the years.  ::)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: TheBoy on 07 January 2025, 15:07:43
Never liked him, or his products, including Paypal.

But the fact he has that useless idiot Starmer rattled, he's suddenly gone up in my estimation (but hasn't risen out of "complete tit" territory yet)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 January 2025, 16:30:04
100 million shows just how out of touch Musk is in British politics: it's a decent amount to buy a dog catcher in the States, but is about a million times more than any of our politicians are worth. Especially the ones known to be for sale, like Farage ::) .

Ahem.  ::)

Yes none of the permanently outraged seemed at all concerned about Bill Gates and Blackrock's Larry Finks hobnobbing with TTK and Theeves in No 10 recently.  ::)

Wonder what was on offer?  ???

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 January 2025, 17:42:02
Starmer sold himself (and its rumoured his arris) for the price of a few nice suits and some trendy specs.  ;D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 January 2025, 18:41:22
Starmer sold himself (and its rumoured his arris) for the price of a few nice suits and some trendy specs.  ;D
Doesn't stop him from being a total turd.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: STEMO on 07 January 2025, 19:28:16
Starmer sold himself (and its rumoured his arris) for the price of a few nice suits and some trendy specs.  ;D
Doesn't stop him from being a total turd burglar
Fixed  ;D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 January 2025, 20:25:18
Starmer sold himself (and its rumoured his arris) for the price of a few nice suits and some trendy specs.  ;D
Doesn't stop him from being a total turd burglar
Fixed  ;D
That too ;D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: STEMO on 07 January 2025, 20:36:56
Starmer sold himself (and its rumoured his arris) for the price of a few nice suits and some trendy specs.  ;D
Doesn't stop him from being a total turd burglar
Fixed  ;D
That too ;D
https://youtu.be/KR_hgZ67s3c?si=SxWw-Xw1NZxVkvHe
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 January 2025, 21:17:41
Farage is our saviour in my opinion. People should look at what else is on offer FFS!
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Rangie on 07 January 2025, 21:34:46
Farage is our saviour in my opinion. People should look at what else is on offer FFS!
. Got to agree with you on that, he simply states what the vast majority of people are thinking, have watched several of his interviews and at least he gives straight answers.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 January 2025, 21:40:32
Agreed👍
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Varche on 07 January 2025, 22:10:48
Farage is our saviour in my opinion. People should look at what else is on offer FFS!

Reform may well be the answer to the eternal Labour: Conservatives tussle but I still agree with that horrible man Musk that Farage isn’t the man for the job. Anymore than Corbyn, Boris J or Truss . The ordinary man in the street won’t vote for him or them. They are tainted. Hardcore Reform voters maybe would.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 January 2025, 23:07:48
Define a hardcore Reform voter ???

They've only stood in one election. I would be more concerned about the hardcore Labour voters, after all they're the reason we're in this mess.

And as for the tosh about Musk sticking his beak in, it was made quite clear months ago that he would be playing a significant role in Trumps presidency if he won.

Well guess what, Trump won and now Elon is involved. The mainstream really needs to work on its surprised face :-X