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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 26 July 2025, 00:06:29
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Fact or fiction?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DMdH3aRt9xG/?igsh=MTQ3MHJ4MHFxeGxvNg==
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BS..I know! Talking to a friend of mine over there and he said that there were trucks from Israel waiting to distribute food to the Gaza strip and Hamas are not allowing them access. BS
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There is plenty of food.
However, this is distributed by Israel however they choose to do it......or not.
Israel is a nuclear power, all powerful, whilst Hamas is just a ragtag bunch of oddballs misfits with very little power to stop anything.
String every Hamas fighter up by his happy sack, I have no problem......but getting food to the starving women and children ( who probably hate Hamas as much as Israel) is something only Israel can control.
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Since when have power hungry despots of any persuasion ever given a shit about the people they're supposed to be 'liberating'? They're just pawns in a game.
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Just over a third of all MP's (221) have signed a letter calling on the British Government to recognise Palestine as a state and to work towards a 'two state solution'. ::)
This shows the calibre of our representatives as the 'two state solution' has been dead for a very long time. October the 7th was the final nail in its coffin, as the main obstacle to the 'two state solution' are the 'Palestinians' who want a one state solution and the annihilation of Israel and her people. :-X
Maybe the penny will drop one day? :-\
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There is plenty of food.
However, this is distributed by Israel however they choose to do it......or not.
Israel is a nuclear power, all powerful, whilst Hamas is just a ragtag bunch of oddballs misfits with very little power to stop anything.
String every Hamas fighter up by his happy sack, I have no problem......but getting food to the starving women and children ( who probably hate Hamas as much as Israel) is something only Israel can control.
It's being, or at least is supposed to be, distributed by the UN. They're neglecting to collect it on order to distribute it, preferring instead to pretend that Israel are actively causing a famine.
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The IDF have released a press statement, stating the UN are not distributing the aid, Israel are allowing aid in, UN aren't doing their job, also the MSN won't show the IDF press release, it's on "X". It doesn't fit the world's media and Government agendas,,
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(https://i.postimg.cc/wjd9NNRz/Israel-Aid-Truck.png)
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Pretty much.
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There will only be one way for peace now after Oct 7 IMO, complete surrender by Hamas, there is no way this is going to stop otherwise.
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There will only be one way for peace now after Oct 7 IMO, complete vaporisation of Hamas, there is no way this is going to stop otherwise.
Again, on the money.
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This is an interesting article and appears to be well researched.
https://david-collier.com/the-truth-behind-the-viral-gaza-famine-photo/
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This is an interesting article and appears to be well researched.
https://david-collier.com/the-truth-behind-the-viral-gaza-famine-photo/
And pretty much what you might expect from the back story.
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This is an interesting article and appears to be well researched.
https://david-collier.com/the-truth-behind-the-viral-gaza-famine-photo/
So the numerous International charity and welfare organisations, plus international political leaders, let alone the numerous international doctors and medical staff have all been fooled have they? There graphic accounts are all false are they? I think not! They have boots on the ground and have been witnesses to the war crimes being carried out.
And how about this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cy8k8045nx9o
And this other view of wat's happening:
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-news-07-28-25
But, of course, The Times of Israel posted this:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-us-contractor-says-he-saw-idf-commit-war-crimes-at-aid-sites-ghf-rejects-false-claims/
Just as Joseph Goebbels propaganda would have done! ::) ::) ::)
Even the Nazis once fooled everyone with the story that the concentration camps were looking after the inmates and protecting them; the truth about that one eventually came out!
Thank God there are many honest Israelis prepared to speak out, and no less than a former Prime Minister of theirs:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/28/middleeast/ehud-olmert-criticizes-gaza-war-oped-intl#:~:text=Former%20Israeli%20prime%20minister%20Ehud%20Olmert%20has%20blasted,to%20defend%20Israel%20against%20accusations%20of%20war%20crimes.
Yes, Hamas IS an evil organisation using the Palestinians as pawns in their game to weaken the Israelis power in the region and annihilate them, as the Israeli's themselves have been "Nazis like" over their objectives of removing all Palestinians from Gaza, and everywhere else in the Middle East, which is an very old aim of them.
No, the truth is Genocide with the murder of innocent civilians IS taking place, whatever a minority want to believe. As said, even the Nazis got away with covering up their awful sins for some considerable time before the truth got out.
What is now needed is full UN / USA intervention to bring about a permanent ceasefire and the twin State proposed by many, although not Donald J. Trump!! Then the victims in all this, the Palestine civilians who played no part in the terrible Oct 7th killing spree of Jews, can start to rebuild their lives and their homes.
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And now, this afternoon whilst in Scotland, President Trump stated:
Donald Trump says there is "real starvation" in Gaza, and the US will set up food centres there
So what more proof do the doubters need?! ::) ::) ::)
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Best get down to beach with a hamper then.
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Best get down to beach with a hamper then.
I wouldn’t. The IDF will shoot you! ;D ;D ;)
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The UN needs to do its job. And the Palestinian population needs to turn on Hamas.
That's all there is to it.
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In a nutshell, that’s exactly what should have and should be happening now. Otherwise why were the UN formed in the first place? The population needs to get a gorilla force together…. Eradicate these animal Hamas tossers and start afresh. There will never be a two state again and why should there be?
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In a nutshell, that’s exactly what should have and should be happening now. Otherwise why were the UN formed in the first place? The population needs to get a gorilla force together…. Eradicate these animal Hamas tossers and start afresh. There will never be a two state again and why should there be?
Agree about getting shot of Hamas, but after that there MUST be a Palestinian State. Why not? It is what the region needs and wants, being supported by the leaders of Europe and Middle East; well, with the exception of Israel! ;)
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The issue is the Gaza Strip, not Palestine per se.
And for the record, 45 UN countries (plus Israel) don't recognise it, so it's not just Israel.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMntpSExoGv/?igsh=MWZnb2UwZzhmc2pjNQ== is potentially being caused by nefarious participants within the UN.
As long as Hammas exists, Palestine will never know peace.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DMlkYHxIO4x/?igsh=MXN4a3lpYjF4cG5udw==
It has also been suggested that the captain on the flight involved trained one of the 9/11 hijackers.
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The UN is part of the problem with their perpetuation of generational refugee (victimhood) status for Palestinians, something that has not happened anywhere else in the world where people have been displaced. ::) Are there enclaves of 'refugees' in Europe after WW2? Nope. Are there enclaves of 'refugees' in India or Pakistan after the partition of British India? Nope. Is there an enclave of 'refugees' in Cyprus after the Turkish invasion and continued illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus? Nope. So why have the Palestinians been accorded this status? ???
The UN agencies are corrupt as hell as well, UNRWA being the obvious example, and something extremely strange is going on when we see thousands of pallets of food sat rotting in the hot desert sun and the UN are not delivering it despite apparent famine conditions. :-\
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DMlkYHxIO4x/?igsh=MXN4a3lpYjF4cG5udw==
It has also been suggested that the captain on the flight involved trained one of the 9/11 hijackers.
He may have done, unwittingly, before they were kicked off the course. But any captain would have thrown those little bastards off the plane.
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The UN needs to do its job. And the Palestinian population needs to turn on Hamas.
The UN is too corrupt, and filled with biased people, so can no longer do a useful role. As for turning against Hamas, that won't happen. As I understand it, Hamas were democratically elected*, partly on a promise to remove the state of Israel.
*As much as you can be in these parts of the world. In the same way, a significant proportion welcomed the return of the Taliban.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DMlkYHxIO4x/?igsh=MXN4a3lpYjF4cG5udw==
It has also been suggested that the captain on the flight involved trained one of the 9/11 hijackers.
He may have done, unwittingly, before they were kicked off the course. But any captain would have thrown those little bastards off the plane.
There are ways to deal with such behaviour.
We used to make do with 15 hour coach trips to go abroad and if you misbehaved, you only affected the people on the coach, ie people from the same school.
Nowadays, a trip isn't worth going on unless it involves flying. Unfortunately, when you have groups of 40-60 kids and only 4 staff, they're only as well behaved as the staff supervising them. Some groups are very well managed and therefore behaved and others are feral. And nationality doesn't come into it.
That the kids were Jewish and the captain of Arab descent obviously won't have had any impact on the situation at all :-X
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Re the recognition of Palestine, I don't suppose that it's a coincidence that the UK is one of the more prominent UN members that doesn't recognise Palestine as a state. That group includes much of NATO.
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Starmer has issued Israel with an ultimatum that if they do not make peace with Hamas by September, then Britain will recognise Palestine as a state.
He said the Israeli government must make substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire and commit to a long-term sustainable peace, allow the UN to restart the supply of aid and make clear there will be no annexations in the West Bank.
To Hamas he said that they must immediately release all of the hostages, sign up to a ceasefire, disarm and accept that they will play no part in the government of Gaza. However there are no consequences for Hamas if they do not comply with his demands! ::)
This is quite extraordinary, coming just a few days after Steve Witkoff the US Envoy confirmed that the reason peace talks broke down recently were because Hamas weren't interested, and I suspect the announcement is as much timed and designed for domestic politics as international. :-X
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DMlkYHxIO4x/?igsh=MXN4a3lpYjF4cG5udw==
It has also been suggested that the captain on the flight involved trained one of the 9/11 hijackers.
He may have done, unwittingly, before they were kicked off the course. But any captain would have thrown those little bastards off the plane.
There are ways to deal with such behaviour.
We used to make do with 15 hour coach trips to go abroad and if you misbehaved, you only affected the people on the coach, ie people from the same school.
Nowadays, a trip isn't worth going on unless it involves flying. Unfortunately, when you have groups of 40-60 kids and only 4 staff, they're only as well behaved as the staff supervising them. Some groups are very well managed and therefore behaved and others are feral. And nationality doesn't come into it.
That the kids were Jewish and the captain of Arab descent obviously won't have had any impact on the situation at all :-X
You're right, it won't.
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Starmer has issued Israel with an ultimatum that if they do not make peace with Hamas by September, then Britain will recognise Palestine as a state.
He said the Israeli government must make substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire and commit to a long-term sustainable peace, allow the UN to restart the supply of aid and make clear there will be no annexations in the West Bank.
To Hamas he said that they must immediately release all of the hostages, sign up to a ceasefire, disarm and accept that they will play no part in the government of Gaza. However there are no consequences for Hamas if they do not comply with his demands! ::)
This is quite extraordinary, coming just a few days after Steve Witkoff the US Envoy confirmed that the reason peace talks broke down recently were because Hamas weren't interested, and I suspect the announcement is as much timed and designed for domestic politics as international. :-X
You have just stated what the consequences are. They will lose their power, and elicit income, and be reduced to nothing, after losing so much already.
It is all politics in a situation that has been really there for centuries, and certainly since the 20th century post the Ottoman Empire, and cost so much. This move is hoped to settle the hopeless plight of Palestinians, release the hostages (IF still alive), and bring the Israelite’s to heel from creating a very large extension to their domain, which is what they have been trying to do in Gaza, which even a former Israeli Prime Minister has condemned, and is against International Law. ;)
But, this is all complex politics involving the dangerous Middle East, which MAY, JUST MAYBE, will be all settled and peaceful one (distant?) day. ::) ::) ::) :-X
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The UN needs to do its job. And the Palestinian population needs to turn on Hamas.
The UN is too corrupt, and filled with biased people, so can no longer do a useful role. As for turning against Hamas, that won't happen. As I understand it, Hamas were democratically elected*, partly on a promise to remove the state of Israel.
*As much as you can be in these parts of the world. In the same way, a significant proportion welcomed the return of the Taliban.
Well, yes and no. They murdered all their serious political rivals, so couldnt really lose the election.
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The UN needs to do its job. And the Palestinian population needs to turn on Hamas.
The UN is too corrupt, and filled with biased people, so can no longer do a useful role. As for turning against Hamas, that won't happen. As I understand it, Hamas were democratically elected*, partly on a promise to remove the state of Israel.
*As much as you can be in these parts of the world. In the same way, a significant proportion welcomed the return of the Taliban.
Well, yes and no. They murdered all their serious political rivals, so couldnt really lose the election.
Yes and immediately after winning the election they murdered the rest or drove them out of Gaza. ::)
I remember the announcement 20 odd years ago that the people of Gaza had elected Hamas, and my first thought was Well that won't end well! :-X
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Anyone who thinks the real majority of the Palestinians wanted Hamas in power is on some fearfully powerful drugs. They did what they were told as they always have been by bastards with guns. They ( the proper Palestinians) have to rise up and kill the fks. Then start over, their own state has been tried repeatedly to no avail all the gifted money was spent on digging tunnels and weapons besides keeping these co£&s@kers in luxury, it needs something different… what it is I don’t know.
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Starmer has issued Israel with an ultimatum that if they do not make peace with Hamas by September, then Britain will recognise Palestine as a state.
He said the Israeli government must make substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire and commit to a long-term sustainable peace, allow the UN to restart the supply of aid and make clear there will be no annexations in the West Bank.
To Hamas he said that they must immediately release all of the hostages, sign up to a ceasefire, disarm and accept that they will play no part in the government of Gaza. However there are no consequences for Hamas if they do not comply with his demands! ::)
This is quite extraordinary, coming just a few days after Steve Witkoff the US Envoy confirmed that the reason peace talks broke down recently were because Hamas weren't interested, and I suspect the announcement is as much timed and designed for domestic politics as international. :-X
You have just stated what the consequences are. They will lose their power, and elicit income, and be reduced to nothing, after losing so much already.
It is all politics in a situation that has been really there for centuries, and certainly since the 20th century post the Ottoman Empire, and cost so much. This move is hoped to settle the hopeless plight of Palestinians, release the hostages (IF still alive), and bring the Israelite’s to heel from creating a very large extension to their domain, which is what they have been trying to do in Gaza, which even a former Israeli Prime Minister has condemned, and is against International Law. ;)
But, this is all complex politics involving the dangerous Middle East, which MAY, JUST MAYBE, will be all settled and peaceful one (distant?) day. ::) ::) ::) :-X
They will do none of it and Starmer has no power to compel them to do anything. They still will get Palestine recognised as a state though which was obviously one of their aims on 07/10/23. ::)
It's weak, foolish and naive, but that's par the course with this useless Labour government :-X
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And now Jezebel is back on the scene, sKS will be trying to save votes within the party without a thought to the consequences.
Recognition of Palestine as a state is a huge GoFYourself to Israel and the US.
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Definitely, and flogging a dead horse.
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And now Jezebel is back on the scene, sKS will be trying to save votes within the party without a thought to the consequences.
Recognition of Palestine as a state is a huge GoFYourself to Israel and the US.
This is the main reason he is doing it IMO. ::)