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Title: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: feeutfo on 29 September 2011, 13:11:35
Anyone got these? I'm finding it impossible to remove all the play which is causing a knocking or "fuddering" over bumps. On the second one now. Has anyone had similar experience with this part?

If so has anyone returned them, complained or contacted the retailer ? Wondering what conti tech say.
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Jimbob on 29 September 2011, 13:13:39
Weve had them in the past, with no issue I can recall.

I'd be wary of buying them now from recent experiences.
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: 2woody on 29 September 2011, 13:21:15
I've had exactly the samae issue on three or four different makes of Omega wheel bearing.

don't know what to do about it - GM maybe ?

...... and Conti are about as good as you can get.
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Jimbob on 29 September 2011, 13:28:50
If I needed one today....Id take out a 2nd mortgage and buy GM :(
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Jimbob on 29 September 2011, 13:31:32
Front; With ABS; Hub Assy.    90486467    £134.00    £114.16    £101.01

or

Front; Saloon; Wheel Bearing Kit; Ø 74mm    90510542    £43.00    £36.55    £28.53

but how easy is that to do on its own?  guessing its a press jobby?
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Andy B on 29 September 2011, 13:46:28
....
but how easy is that to do on its own?  guessing its a press jobby?

Fitting the bearing is normally the easy bit - 'judicious' use of a soft faced hammer or using a vice with a large socket - it's normally getting the old one out. If you have access to a stick welder a line of weld along the inside of the bearing 'outer' is usually enough to help it out of its seat.
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 September 2011, 16:46:33
Front; With ABS; Hub Assy.    90486467    £134.00    £114.16    £101.01

or

Front; Saloon; Wheel Bearing Kit; Ø 74mm    90510542    £43.00    £36.55    £28.53

but how easy is that to do on its own?  guessing its a press jobby?

Hence, I think, Mark's suggestion of collecting a few used hubs so we can have a few "we prepared earlier", avoiding messing about welding, pressing, etc. when there's an urgent need for one. :y
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 September 2011, 18:00:02
Cant see a press being needed tbh.

But yes, I could do with one or two to refurb
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: feeutfo on 29 September 2011, 18:21:37
Ok so if I fit my new conti tech that's on the shelf, and send the one that was fitted to the car at Newent to Mark...?

Or would we be better sending them back to bypartsbuy and get the problem rectified.... Be a bloody miracle if that happens.

The way I see it it's either get the fault fixed via conti tech or modify them to work correctly....? Or find out exactly how hard it is to fit new races into the hub/abs assembly. But I gather the actual baring itself is as expensive as the whole conti tech part in the hub complete....? Although that's still cheaper than vx in "baring in the hub" price.

Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 September 2011, 18:59:40
The way I see it it's either get the fault fixed via conti tech or modify them to work correctly....? Or find out exactly how hard it is to fit new races into the hub/abs assembly. But I gather the actual baring itself is as expensive as the whole conti tech part in the hub complete....? Although that's still cheaper than vx in "baring in the hub" price.

But isn't the point that the whole thing from contitech complete doesn't work? ;)
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: feeutfo on 29 September 2011, 20:18:38
Yes.  ??? What do you mean Kev?
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 September 2011, 20:26:03
Yes.  ??? What do you mean Kev?

You're comparing the price of something that does work to something that doesn't. ;)

Like, for example, if I were to put Falkens on my car at £80 a corner, it'd be cheaper than... :-X

 ;)
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: feeutfo on 29 September 2011, 20:39:53
Yes.  ??? What do you mean Kev?

You're comparing the price of something that does work to something that doesn't. ;)

Like, for example, if I were to put Falkens on my car at £80 a corner, it'd be cheaper than... :-X

 ;)
Vx baring on its own works.  Conti tech in hub doesn't. Almost same price for each... Sorry Kev it's been a long day... Obviously I want my cake and eat it.

So are you saying accept ct barings don't work and pay more?
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Entwood on 29 September 2011, 21:36:14
Cant see a press being needed tbh.

But yes, I could do with one or two to refurb

Still got one here for you ...  :) Very new and shiny it is too ..but then you know that as you've already had a play with it !!  :)
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: robbo299 on 29 September 2011, 22:26:12
Hi all, I work for SKF and may be able to get wheel bearings/hub units for nearly cost price, If anyone is interested i will enquire about prices.  :y
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 September 2011, 00:08:06
Hi all, I work for SKF and may be able to get wheel bearings/hub units for nearly cost price, If anyone is interested i will enquire about prices.  :y

That certainly sounds like an offer worth following up.  :y
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Osprey on 30 September 2011, 02:05:33
Agreed - plenty on here would be interested. 

Shame it is just a few hours since I bought one from my local stealer for £122,000.   :'(
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: feeutfo on 30 September 2011, 03:12:47
Very much interested Rob. That would be great if you can pull that off. :y

Not being funny though, there are various makes with the same problem. We 'll need to be able to remove all the play. Some members have Polly bushes fitted which seem to magnify any play, knocks or wheel balance issues through the steering, so the barrings will need to be spot on.

Certainly feel the problem on mine anyway, and no Pollys yet.

But not wanting to look a gift hours in the mouth, yes please.  :y
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 September 2011, 05:39:36
Hi all, I work for SKF and may be able to get wheel bearings/hub units for nearly cost price, If anyone is interested i will enquire about prices.  :y

That would be useful :y
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 September 2011, 11:58:31
Agreed - plenty on here would be interested. 

Shame it is just a few hours since I bought one from my local stealer for £122,000.   :'(

 :o I knew they were dear, but that's taking the mick!
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 September 2011, 12:01:06
Hi all, I work for SKF and may be able to get wheel bearings/hub units for nearly cost price, If anyone is interested i will enquire about prices.  :y

If we try some SKF bearings and still have a problem, would you perhaps be in a position to feed back our findings to SKF and perhaps get it resolved? I'm thinking it could be advantageous to both parties.
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Osprey on 30 September 2011, 15:03:15
Agreed - plenty on here would be interested. 

Shame it is just a few hours since I bought one from my local stealer for £122,000.   :'(

 :o I knew they were dear, but that's taking the mick!

Yes, but only one zero too many  :(
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: robbo299 on 02 October 2011, 01:17:00
Certainly Kevin  :y Although i don`t expect any problems. SKF have been making them for 100+ years now and our bearings are used on Ferrari ( we are one of their sponsors ) and 99% of the other F1 teams. We also supply car manufactures with bearings, and many repackage them into their own replacement spares kits. Obviously if anyone encountered any problems with any hub units or rear wheel bearings this would be taken seriously, and believe me, a full investigation would follow. I was wondering what make of bearings were being used in the Contitech kits, as i am more familiar with this company supplying drive/transmission belts like Gates.
As a footnote, before someone who closely follows F1 will no doubt point out, Schumacher recently had to retire from a race due to wheel bearing failure. On investigation by our automotive division, it was found that the team had modified the brake assembly housing without consulting us about the consequences. This was found to have lead to the unit overheating the bearing which lead to it`s failure. This has been the only instance of bearing failure we have been informed of in F1 for quite a while.   
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Jimbob on 04 October 2011, 08:00:06
After chatting with Robbo, we have found the tradeclub descriptions are wrong...

Hi Jimbob,
Re your reply to the post regarding the Contitech wheel bearings...
I`m a little confused here. (not difficult  :-\) In your reply to the post on the forum you gave what i presume are vaux part numbers and prices for the hub assembly and bearing kit. As you may be aware i work for SKF and offered to find out if i can obtain units and bearings at near cost price. According to my records at work we only do the complete hub assembly (Vaux part number 90486467 ) for the front wheels and two bearings for the rear, a version for armoured vechiles and one for non armoured. I know our cars are regarded as solid but armoured??? lol. In your reply you stated the option of either the complete hub or replacement bearing, yet the number you quoted for the replacement bearing was for the rear wheels according to my records. This was for a bearing with 74mm diameter, 37mm bore and 45mm width. I am waiting to hear from my automotive division contact for prices and what the difference is between the non armoured bearing and armoured version. I hope to have the info tomorrow.
Regards Rob.

Hiya,
taken from the trade club website:

Application    Description    Part No.    Retail    Trade    Trade Club    Wish List
3.2i 24v V6 - Y32SE    Front; With ABS; Hub Assy.    90486467    £134.00    £114.16    £101.01    
3.2i 24v V6 - Y32SE    Rear; Wheel Bearing Kit    90486468    £67.00    £57.04    £44.25    
3.2i 24v V6 - Y32SE    Front; Saloon; Wheel Bearing Kit; Ø 74mm    90510542    £43.00    £36.55    £28.53

Armoured, I beleive is the 1 word description for the hearses, ambulances, police, military vehicles....theres a few parts specific to them.

Looking at those in EPC..
90486467 - Hub Assembly
90486468 - REAR armored saloon or any Estate bearing
90510542 - Rear Saloon Bearing.

So The tradeclub descriptions are wrong!

Also further looks on EPC do not show a part number for the front bearing on its own.
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 October 2011, 08:24:03
can you get cambelt kits to!
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Elite Pete on 04 October 2011, 09:11:25
Rear wheel bearings would be good too ;)
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Jimbob on 04 October 2011, 09:16:14
and water pumps etc etc etc LOL
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 October 2011, 09:44:47
This is going to become a long shopping list ::) ::)
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: robbo299 on 04 October 2011, 20:02:39
As Jimbob has stated in his last post where he gave part numbers for the bearings and hub units members should be aware of the diference between the rear wheel bearings. According to my records at work, estates require part number 904864468 and saloons 90510542. However, if your omega saloon is an ex-plod etc, you could need the same part number as the estate. Bearing dimensions for the estate ( 90486468 ) are outer diameter 74mm, inner or bore size 37mm and width 45mm. The saloon rear wheel bearing is 74mm diameter, inner or bore of 39mm and a width of 39mm. As you can see there is quite a difference between them so it may be best to check sizes before buying, if possible.  :y
Title: Re: Contitech wheel barings
Post by: Jimbob on 04 October 2011, 20:08:40
Ohhh, and FYI Tradeclub support are investigating their incorrect descriptions :y