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Title: for potential iphone buyers :)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 October 2011, 20:03:03
just watch ;D :D
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw&feature=topvideos_entertainment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw&feature=topvideos_entertainment)
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Post by: blackviper90210 on 18 October 2011, 20:58:33
Never had an iPhone, I like HTC too much at the moment  ;)
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 18 October 2011, 21:00:54
my cheap nokia makes calls and texts. and when i drop it my life isn't ruined  ::) ;D
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 October 2011, 21:14:46
a phone this much expenive must be a bit stronger , its inevitable you drop anyway..
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Post by: Turk on 18 October 2011, 21:38:16
Never had an iPhone, I like HTC too much at the moment  ;)

Right on !!  :y
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Post by: Richie London on 18 October 2011, 22:56:19
I've dropped my galaxy twice now and not a mark on it still  :y
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Post by: MaxV6 on 18 October 2011, 23:22:45
why is it that people expect manufacturers of sensitive hitech devices to build them in such a fashion as to counteract the user's bloody minded stupidity....   


buy a bloody case for the thing.....  end of problem...


had a gayphone for a while,   love it,  as a tool ,  the apps for my trade are unmatched on any other platform,  not a scratch on it,   survived building sites, live gig work, being dropped countless times,  and floating around in my pocket with all sorts of sharp metal odds and sods.... 

because i had the intelligence to buy a nice leather case that doubles as a wallet,  and use screen protectors ....  just to be sure...



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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 08:37:36
you cant keep inside the leather when you are using it ;)
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Post by: Del Boy on 19 October 2011, 13:41:49
you cant keep inside the leather when you are using it ;)

Mine has a leather case which stays on the phone when I'm talking on it. I'm not being funny, but phones aren't made to be dropped, if you you drop it, it's not the companies fault for not making the phone stronger. It's like having a car crash, ringing Vauxhall and saying my headlights have broken, why didn't you make them stronger?
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 13:43:09
you cant keep inside the leather when you are using it ;)

Mine has a leather case which stays on the phone when I'm talking on it. I'm not being funny, but phones aren't made to be dropped, if you you drop it, it's not the companies fault for not making the phone stronger. It's like having a car crash, ringing Vauxhall and saying my headlights have broken, why didn't you make them stronger?

but the Galaxy is not broken :-\
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Post by: Del Boy on 19 October 2011, 13:47:27
And that makes what difference? My son has a Galaxy S2 without a case, dropped it outside my local newsagents and crack the screen in the top right hand corner. The point is still the same, if you drop it and it breaks it's your fault, not the companies fault in the slightest. And that particular galaxy didn't break, strength or luck?
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 13:53:01
And that makes what difference? My son has a Galaxy S2 without a case, dropped it outside my local newsagents and crack the screen in the top right hand corner. The point is still the same, if you drop it and it breaks it's your fault, not the companies fault in the slightest. And that particular galaxy didn't break, strength or luck?

their screens are not the same..  and as seen obviously in the video, galaxies are more robust..
 
yes, samsungs also can be broken if you really try,however, its an important point that the producer firm protects the customers "investment" as those mobiles are really expensive now.. so if one can do, I expect the other try the same at least..
 
 
 
 
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Post by: mantahatch on 19 October 2011, 13:58:19
I would have thought this story would be enough to put people off buying apple products http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15360697

If not the "more money than sense" comes to mind.
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Post by: Del Boy on 19 October 2011, 13:58:38
But then I could sit here and say my sons galaxy s2 broke when it hit the floor, and my ex Mrs' iPhone didn't break when she dropped her iPhone in the street. So you could then say the iPhone is stronger I find the Samsungs are nice phones although the feel of the marerials used is shocking I think.
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:00:06
And that makes what difference? My son has a Galaxy S2 without a case, dropped it outside my local newsagents and crack the screen in the top right hand corner. The point is still the same, if you drop it and it breaks it's your fault, not the companies fault in the slightest. And that particular galaxy didn't break, strength or luck?

Or the fact that the clip was paid for and produced by Samsung? ;)
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:00:59
I would have thought this story would be enough to put people off buying apple products http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15360697

If not the "more money than sense" comes to mind.

What bearing does their share price have on the quality or usability of the products they produce?

I'm confused..
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 14:05:00
But then I could sit here and say my sons galaxy s2 broke when it hit the floor, and my ex Mrs' iPhone didn't break when she dropped her iPhone in the street. So you could then say the iPhone is stronger I find the Samsungs are nice phones although the feel of the marerials used is shocking I think.

I cant say.. because I know the screens are made up of different material..
 
please watch the video carefully tests are done in same conditions (same height, same angle)
 
and I must say the aim for sharing this video is not to proove "mine is bigger than yours"  ;D
 
I tried to warn people who will pay this money.. anyway its up to you Del..
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Post by: ninjapirate on 19 October 2011, 14:08:00
And that makes what difference? My son has a Galaxy S2 without a case, dropped it outside my local newsagents and crack the screen in the top right hand corner. The point is still the same, if you drop it and it breaks it's your fault, not the companies fault in the slightest. And that particular galaxy didn't break, strength or luck?

Or the fact that the clip was paid for and produced by Samsung? ;)

Im going with that one lol the "oooow, ahhhhhh" effects are so funny. mobiles get dropped all the time, its life, yes they should make it as strong as poss but within reason or its going to bump prices ever higher. my SE arc spends most its time being dropped, kicked across floors, flying off dashboards, its just a phone, it has no scratches dents or cracks. if i break it i will get another.
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Post by: Del Boy on 19 October 2011, 14:10:17
I just personally prefer the iPhone that's just my preference, the screen quality I find higher for reading text, and the phone is much easier to use along with a hugely superior battery life. Other people find the Samsung better, again it's all personal preference.
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 14:11:01
And that makes what difference? My son has a Galaxy S2 without a case, dropped it outside my local newsagents and crack the screen in the top right hand corner. The point is still the same, if you drop it and it breaks it's your fault, not the companies fault in the slightest. And that particular galaxy didn't break, strength or luck?

Or the fact that the clip was paid for and produced by Samsung? ;)

 ;D 
 
they have thousands of products , need to pay serious money if they want to demo on all..
 
they wont bother..
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:13:56
Cem you disappoint me.. you always struck me as a proper cynic and realist like me!

If you think they don't spent millions (probably billions) on marketing, I was clearly wrong ;) And this is precisely what marketing is now - 'viral' 'real' videos posted on YouTube..
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:15:53
And let's not forget - Samsung and Apple hate each other and are bitterly fighting through the courts over precisely these two products, attempting to block the sale of them in various territories and sue for patent infringement.. ;)
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Post by: tunnie on 19 October 2011, 14:20:00
And let's not forget - Samsung and Apple hate each other and are bitterly fighting through the courts over precisely these two products, attempting to block the sale of them in various territories and sue for patent infringement.. ;)

Well not really, Samsung for years enjoyed close relationship with Apple. They are a key supplier to them, but for how long. Who knows  :-\
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:23:17
They hate each other now, though - they're trying to litigate each other to death  ;D

I'm sure there's a similar video out there somewhere paid for by Apple that shows the opposite, btw.. :)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 14:28:53
They hate each other now, though - they're trying to litigate each other to death  ;D

I'm sure there's a similar video out there somewhere paid for by Apple that shows the opposite, btw.. :)

show us the example then ;)
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Post by: mantahatch on 19 October 2011, 14:29:35
I would have thought this story would be enough to put people off buying apple products http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15360697

If not the "more money than sense" comes to mind.

What bearing does their share price have on the quality or usability of the products they produce?

I'm confused..

I quote " Apple, has reported an 85% rise in its full-year results."

As for quality or usability of there products it has very little to do with it. I am very sorry for going one degree off subject. I am sure you would never do such a thing. Whilst on the subject aaronjb, what the heck have I ever done to upset you ? This is not the first time you have "commented" on my posts

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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 14:30:09
ok.. I'm in a java course , so I must quit before teacher kicks me off from the class ;D :-[
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:36:40
show us the example then ;)

I did a quick search on YouTube - there's tons of "iPhone survives X fall" videos (including one from 13,500ft.. ;D) - I wouldn't mind betting that at least one is a viral marketing piece..

I quote " Apple, has reported an 85% rise in its full-year results."

So because they're successful, we shouldn't buy their (new) product?


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Whilst on the subject aaronjb, what the heck have I ever done to upset you ? This is not the first time you have "commented" on my posts

I wasn't aware you had.. I also don't tend to pay much attention to who I'm replying to, unless it's a name I particularly recognise, so it's nothing personal. I'm not aware I was attacking you, either, just asking a question.. so I'm surprised you are so concerned? I'll refrain from commenting on anything you say, if you prefer.
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 14:45:07
 ::) ;D
 
war on full throttle , ok, we will continue on night time, see you soon :)
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Post by: mantahatch on 19 October 2011, 14:49:06
::) ;D
 
war on full throttle , ok, we will continue on night time, see you soon :)


Cem,  Get back to your course  ;D
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 14:52:25
::) ;D
 
war on full throttle , ok, we will continue on night time, see you soon :)

RAWR LEAVE MY BELOVED APPLE ALONE!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I jest.. I'm no fanboy - I use a Mac for specific reasons, for most people they're a waste of money..

Ah who am I kidding. For me it's a waste of money ;D


And yes, back in your box, Cem! I mean.. Back in your course! ;)
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Post by: Gaffers on 19 October 2011, 16:26:50
I dont mind if Apple keel making crap stuff, it keeps me busy when they break  :y

If you're fool enough to buy one, well....... ::)
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Post by: Shimmy on 19 October 2011, 16:31:10
Seems the new iphone 4S is having a lot of problems with battery life.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42593/iphone-4s-battery-complaints-flood-in

The SGS2 has also been proven to work faster in real world performance tests.

Both great phones mind.

The Galaxy Nexus was announced this morning too, another fantastic phone especially on ICS (Android 4.0).
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Post by: Lazydocker on 19 October 2011, 16:36:30
Strangely enough, I've upgraded my 4 to iOS 5 and found that battery life has improved dramatically :y :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 October 2011, 18:31:23
ok, today (starting from monday) my course was full of people that have no idea
about object oriented programming..  ??? :-X
 
and a course of 5 days to teach java+object programming is barely impossible..
 
so the teacher slowed down and I find some time to check OOF..
 
personally I'm not against any brand name.. but a phone
costing 1000 euros here (dont know how much in UK)
must have to be a bit stronger...not fracturing when dropped even
from 1 meter.. who want to buy still can, but not for me..
 
my samsung 8500 have dropped several times on concrete and nothing happened..
 
and I paid less than half of that.. :-\ 
 
 
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Post by: ninjapirate on 19 October 2011, 18:37:34
ok, today (starting from monday) my course was full of people that have no idea
about object oriented programming..  ??? :-X
 
and a course of 5 days to teach java+object programming is barely impossible..
 
so the teacher slowed down and I find some time to check OOF..
 
personally I'm not against any brand name.. but a phone
costing 1000 euros here (dont know how much in UK)
must have to be a bit stronger...not fracturing when dropped even
from 1 meter.. who want to buy still can, but not for me..
 
my samsung 8500 have dropped several times on concrete and nothing happened..
 
and I paid less than half of that.. :-\

i wouldnt pay anywhere near that for a mobile, its free on contract, if i had to actualy buy one i think £150 tops lol iirc my sony arc was about £450 when it came out if i paid for it. my contract is about £30 a month with 600mins, free txts, 1gb data. but i have to be with vodafone as they are the only ones that do a suresignal box to give me signal at home. most networks say i have signal but its lies, you have to drive couple miles north with any network to get a signal lol
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Post by: MaxV6 on 20 October 2011, 02:23:15
you cant keep inside the leather when you are using it ;)

yes i bloody can\
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Post by: MaxV6 on 20 October 2011, 02:34:14
in the time i've had my iPhone, my son has destroyeed 3 expensive nokias and 2 samsungs... 

the wife, has also killed 2 samsungs.   

either by dropping them out of their pockets (or handbag) ,  or by sitting on them....

my iphone has survived those and far worse.... (well actually, there's probably not much worse than being sat on by me, i'm not a small fella. )

(although, as previously mentioned, i have the good sense to use a decent bloody case.......  )

it is NOT the responsibility of the manufacturer OR even the retailer, to protect a buyer's investment from the buyer's stupidity....  it's the fekwitted buyer's OWN responsibility..... 




( mind you i had a sony K700 for , maybe 7 years???   it would seem i'm not very good at killing phones.....     Cars on the other hand, i'm expert at....   )
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 20 October 2011, 12:12:43
in the time i've had my iPhone, my son has destroyeed 3 expensive nokias and 2 samsungs... 

the wife, has also killed 2 samsungs.   

either by dropping them out of their pockets (or handbag) ,  or by sitting on them....

my iphone has survived those and far worse.... (well actually, there's probably not much worse than being sat on by me, i'm not a small fella. )

(although, as previously mentioned, i have the good sense to use a decent bloody case.......  )

it is NOT the responsibility of the manufacturer OR even the retailer, to protect a buyer's investment from the buyer's stupidity....  it's the fekwitted buyer's OWN responsibility..... 




( mind you i had a sony K700 for , maybe 7 years???   it would seem i'm not very good at killing phones.....     Cars on the other hand, i'm expert at....   )

does fragility word mean something  ::)
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Post by: MaxV6 on 20 October 2011, 16:47:38
yes, it means take more bloody care of it you moron.
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Post by: Gaffers on 20 October 2011, 16:51:01
Now now, play nice.  No need for name calling
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Post by: bob.dent on 20 October 2011, 16:54:01
my cheap nokia makes calls and texts. and when i drop it my life isn't ruined  ::) ;D

Totally agree :y
I'm sure gayphones and the like have their uses but can be very unsociable. You go to a pub, restaurant or party etc. and all you seem to get is half the people gazing into their bloody gayphones. ::)
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Post by: MaxV6 on 20 October 2011, 17:20:43
whoops,   I need to add, i was NOT calling Cem a moron ,    the intention was to explain that the implication of the word fragility, is that the device user should take good care of the device.....   or is themselves to blame for the results.... 

unfortunately, the lack of an edit feature, means i cannot rectify the implied insult to another member, 

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Post by: JesterRT on 21 October 2011, 13:04:12
I have a Nokia 6210.  It's been drop kicked across the office in a fit of peak, dropped in water (mental note: check pockets before going canoeing), regularly dropped on the ground as I fumble carrying stuff from the car, gets stuffed into a pocket with keys, and generally gets abused most days.  It's never let me down, the battery lasts a week, the signal outstrips every smartphone in my office (if it's new and shiny, someone here has one) and I'm loathed to change it.  SWMBO has an iPhone 4S and I cringe everytime I see it get thrown into a bag, or picked up by the kids.

They just don't make 'em like they used to!