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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 22 October 2011, 19:23:05
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Whats best source for these at the moment? Anyone got any recommended suppliers?
Assume they are the ones of choice at the moment.
Need pair for my 3.2, suggestions welcome :y
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I thought there was a thread a while ago that decided that they were no better than some of the cheapies ???
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I know you specifically asked about lemforders but i kept my old ones from my 2.2. You are welcome to have them to polybush?
Think most source from all german parts / autovaux
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My preference: http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_906178-Control-arm-lower-NS-Omega-B-Lemforder-27734-02-90-576-788.html
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yes, Allgerman, good value and reliable.
whether they are worth it, is under debate :(
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My preference: http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_906178-Control-arm-lower-NS-Omega-B-Lemforder-27734-02-90-576-788.html
And: http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_906267-Control-arm-lower-OS-Omega-B-Lemforder-27735-02-90-576-789.html
Then poly-bush the front ends :y :y :y
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I know you specifically asked about lemforders but i kept my old ones from my 2.2. You are welcome to have them to polybush?
Think most source from all german parts / autovaux
Thanks for kind offer, but I am guessing your bushes were buggered too hence replacing then?
I was going to poly bush whats on there now, but rear bush has also failed, so new wishbone time.
Not sure on £70 each though :-\
Could get a cheaper pair then poly them once that bush fails....
That said, ones on my 2.2 are original, and they are fine ::)
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Sod it, i'll pay the £70 corner from allgerman. Been browsing their site, don't appear to do springs? Would not mind a pair of boge rear springs either.
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
Fed up with saying it TBH ;) ;)
Although I may well go down that route too, but mine will be poly'd straight away ::)
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
Fed up with saying it TBH ;) ;)
Although I may well go down that route too, but mine will be poly'd straight away ::)
if it wasn't for curry, so would Tunnie. ;)
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
Fed up with saying it TBH ;) ;)
Although I may well go down that route too, but mine will be poly'd straight away ::)
if it wasn't for curry, so would Tunnie. ;)
To be fair, unless his driving style changes dramatically when he starts driving it, he probably doesn't need Polys ::)
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I thought they didn't look too bad. It was more to save the inconvenience of having a car off the road. Can bring them to the Wycombe meet for someone to give a second opinion.
I know you specifically asked about lemforders but i kept my old ones from my 2.2. You are welcome to have them to polybush?
Think most source from all german parts / autovaux
Thanks for kind offer, but I am guessing your bushes were buggered too hence replacing then?
I was going to poly bush whats on there now, but rear bush has also failed, so new wishbone time.
Not sure on £70 each though :-\
Could get a cheaper pair then poly them once that bush fails....
That said, ones on my 2.2 are original, and they are fine ::)
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I thought they didn't look too bad. It was more to save the inconvenience of having a car off the road. Can bring them to the Wycombe meet for someone to give a second opinion.
I know you specifically asked about lemforders but i kept my old ones from my 2.2. You are welcome to have them to polybush?
Think most source from all german parts / autovaux
Its for my project which is currently SORN, to get it MOT'd it needs replacement wishbones. I've bitten bullet and ordering from allgerman, (just waiting for a call back on a quote for springs too)
But thanks again for the offer :y
Thanks for kind offer, but I am guessing your bushes were buggered too hence replacing then?
I was going to poly bush whats on there now, but rear bush has also failed, so new wishbone time.
Not sure on £70 each though :-\
Could get a cheaper pair then poly them once that bush fails....
That said, ones on my 2.2 are original, and they are fine ::)
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fek, put that right in the middle of the quote.
Its for my project which is currently SORN, to get it MOT'd it needs replacement wishbones. I've bitten bullet and ordering from allgerman, (just waiting for a call back on a quote for springs too)
But thanks again for the offer :y
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Your welcome, no worries
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Just ordered a pair, along with a set of rear Boge coil springs :)
Very helpful, got good price on springs, less what I paid last time from a Vauxhall "specialist"
Very happy :)
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
Fed up with saying it TBH ;) ;)
Although I may well go down that route too, but mine will be poly'd straight away ::)
if it wasn't for curry, so would Tunnie. ;)
To be fair, unless his driving style changes dramatically when he starts driving it, he probably doesn't need Polys ::)
Remain unconvinced that driving style has any bearing on bush longevity TBH :-\
I also think a quality new rubber bush, correctly fitted, should feel no different to poly...
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Remain unconvinced that driving style has any bearing on bush longevity TBH :-\
I dunno.. mine were fine until I bounced over a set of those vicious rubber sleeping policemen at, erm, a speed in excess of that which I should have been doing. (i.e. about 1mph for those things)
:-[ :-[ :-[
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Remain unconvinced that driving style has any bearing on bush longevity TBH :-\
I dunno.. mine were fine until I bounced over a set of those vicious rubber sleeping policemen at, erm, a speed in excess of that which I should have been doing. (i.e. about 1mph for those things)
:-[ :-[ :-[
Probably on their last legs then I would imagine...
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
Fed up with saying it TBH ;) ;)
Although I may well go down that route too, but mine will be poly'd straight away ::)
if it wasn't for curry, so would Tunnie. ;)
To be fair, unless his driving style changes dramatically when he starts driving it, he probably doesn't need Polys ::)
Remain unconvinced that driving style has any bearing on bush longevity TBH :-\
I also think a quality new rubber bush, correctly fitted, should feel no different to poly...
...I'd expect polly to be more precise. But I am now in a position to do a back to back test. Or I would be if I had time.
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Surprised nobody countered with... Lemforders aren't worth the money... ::)
Fed up with saying it TBH ;) ;)
Although I may well go down that route too, but mine will be poly'd straight away ::)
if it wasn't for curry, so would Tunnie. ;)
To be fair, unless his driving style changes dramatically when he starts driving it, he probably doesn't need Polys ::)
Remain unconvinced that driving style has any bearing on bush longevity TBH :-\
I also think a quality new rubber bush, correctly fitted, should feel no different to poly...
Agreed on the second point but not on the first.
A solid bush will not have to work as hard dealing with the stresses of hard braking. Some of us are very tough on the brakes, some aren't ;) Which reminds me, I must order a front axle kit for my car when I do the suspension ::) ::)
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my rubber bushes seem to last 3yrs, I'd say my driving style isn't that relaxed
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my rubber bushes seem to last 3yrs, I'd say my driving style isn't that relaxed
But do they? Or do they get gradually worse but you don't notice? :-\
Mine are genuine GM and on their way out in less than that, and very low mileage :o
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my rubber bushes seem to last 3yrs, I'd say my driving style isn't that relaxed
But do they? Or do they get gradually worse but you don't notice? :-\
Mine are genuine GM and on their way out in less than that, and very low mileage :o
yup
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my rubber bushes seem to last 3yrs, I'd say my driving style isn't that relaxed
But do they? Or do they get gradually worse but you don't notice? :-\
Mine are genuine GM and on their way out in less than that, and very low mileage :o
yup
Yup what? Gradually get worse?
I've noticed mine deteriorating since I got the car so know they need sorting, but other people might not notice as they don't push it as herd ;) Like the "Wooden" pads and judder I've got... SWMBO cannot feel anything wrong when she drives but it's now getting to the point that she can spot it when I'm driving ::) ::)
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no, they last
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But regardless, for long term ownership, lemforder then Polly when the main bush fails....or before.
Unless you have a press. Then press new rearward.
Lemforder are worth it for not having to press, and give the best possible rearward bush, and a new ball joint.
Polly are worth it purely on the grounds of not having to break about tightening bolts wheels loaded.
Not cheap in total. But for best results long term.....
....IMO of course.
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parts should be delivered today, not looking forward to fitting them! :-[
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When replacing wishbones is it suggested to renew the bolts/nuts or just reuse existing?
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When replacing wishbones is it suggested to renew the bolts/nuts or just reuse existing?
It is "suggested" somewhere to replace the wb bolts. But not considered necessary. Lemforder wb's come with steering knuckle nut and bolt, and nuts for wb bolts. But not the wb bolts themselves. Never replaced the bolts myself.
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Read through your guide Chris, I have trouble visualising some parts, could do wit some pictures I feel. I'm ok at drop links, disc / calliper removal, its after that i'm going to have trouble
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But regardless, for long term ownership, lemforder then Polly when the main bush fails....or before.
Unless you have a press. Then press new rearward.
Lemforder are worth it for not having to press, and give the best possible rearward bush, and a new ball joint.
Polly are worth it purely on the grounds of not having to break about tightening bolts wheels loaded.
Not cheap in total. But for best results long term.....
....IMO of course.
Shame to sacrifice new front bushes but it's so much easier if you fit the poly's first so that you don't end up laying on your back, on the floor, wedging the front bush hole clear of its hanger so that you can saw through the outer shell ::), or is it just me getting old. :(
Regards
Alan
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Read through your guide Chris, I have trouble visualising some parts, could do wit some pictures I feel. I'm ok at drop links, disc / calliper removal, its after that i'm going to have trouble
I'm sure The fat pasty will guide you T. ;) he's got his own to do I believe? Follow him maybe?
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But regardless, for long term ownership, lemforder then Polly when the main bush fails....or before.
Unless you have a press. Then press new rearward.
Lemforder are worth it for not having to press, and give the best possible rearward bush, and a new ball joint.
Polly are worth it purely on the grounds of not having to break about tightening bolts wheels loaded.
Not cheap in total. But for best results long term.....
....IMO of course.
Shame to sacrifice new front bushes but it's so much easier if you fit the poly's first so that you don't end up laying on your back, on the floor, wedging the front bush hole clear of its hanger so that you can saw through the outer shell ::), or is it just me getting old. :(
Regards
Alan
Yep. All depends on rear bush and if preserving camber setting.
Tunnie has fubar rear bushes, and the camber setting is lost. Plus cash is an issue. And it's arguable if he'll notice any benefit from polly. So suggested fit lemforders, or whatever. But as camber is lost he can remove the steering knuckle to make fitting easier.
Then when the front bush fails or he finds a performance issue, he can fit polly.... Or someone can. ::)
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I wouldn't bother with lemforder wishbones, not worth the money ;D
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But regardless, for long term ownership, lemforder then Polly when the main bush fails....or before.
Unless you have a press. Then press new rearward.
Lemforder are worth it for not having to press, and give the best possible rearward bush, and a new ball joint.
Polly are worth it purely on the grounds of not having to break about tightening bolts wheels loaded.
Not cheap in total. But for best results long term.....
....IMO of course.
Shame to sacrifice new front bushes but it's so much easier if you fit the poly's first so that you don't end up laying on your back, on the floor, wedging the front bush hole clear of its hanger so that you can saw through the outer shell ::), or is it just me getting old. :(
Regards
Alan
Yep. All depends on rear bush and if preserving camber setting.
Tunnie has fubar rear bushes, and the camber setting is lost. Plus cash is an issue. And it's arguable if he'll notice any benefit from polly. So suggested fit lemforders, or whatever. But as camber is lost he can remove the steering knuckle to make fitting easier.
Then when the front bush fails or he finds a performance issue, he can fit polly.... Or someone can. ::)
;D ;D ;D Is that 'Yep' it's easier off the car or 'Yep' I'm getting old? ;D ;D :y Agree it does seem a waste to not get the use out of the new wishbone before eventually going down the poly front bush route. :y
Regards
Alan
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Speaking from personal experience ... Yep to both. ;)