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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: azza_126 on 28 October 2011, 23:19:21
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im aware that most police cars are remaped and generally have the biggest spec brakes and best spec suspention (or even an non standard upgrade) what has been done to the omega ( 1994 early spec 3l v6) ? my car seems to act if it has a upgraded cams as it gets to about 3-4k and the just takes off and almost within a second or 2 it bouncing of the limiter (it is manual) is this normal? to me it seems like a very distinct power band which is what u get from uprated cams. also i notice that it doesnt have any cam sensors even tho the wires are there it doesnt have the pullys for it aswell just 4 of the same pullys no pick up cams with lobes. can any one help or tell me other wise
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Very rare for any Omega to have anything done by the Police ;)
Except for heavy duty springs sometimes :-\
The "Power Band" you talk of sounds like the multiram system
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Guess its because you have a 3.0 V6!!!! :y ;D
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If a V6 noticeably kicks its' heels up around 4k RPM it's normally because the multirams aren't working properly. They should pull like that from around 2.5K.
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Agree it sounds like your multi rams are faulty...
... Only thing I suspect the plod play with is dif ratio :-\
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so how do u fix them and where r the multi rams?
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heavy duty rear springs, beefier alternator for all the police gizmo's some have a different ratio diff, but other than that, factory standard, no remaps or brake upgrades.
This describes multi-ram operation:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.0)
Ohh and leave text speak to the kids at school ;) :y
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heavy duty rear springs, beefier alternator for all the police gizmo's some have a different ratio diff, but other than that, factory standard, no remaps or brake upgrades.
This describes multi-ram operation:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.0)
Ohh and leave text speak to the kids at school ;) :y
I've had a few explod now, and some have had Re Maps Ive even found a couple with enlarged Throttle Bodies, never got down to the Cam detials. some of the ones Ive had did go like stink, where others just seemed standard, surprisingly the quicker ones had pretty much standard diff ratio.
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Plod Omegas are pretty standard mechanically. Its seems some forces did remap for specific uses, only one I've seen that felt like remap was a 3.0 TVP ARV (and an auto!). Whether it was mapped by old bill or subsequent owner though...
...and I tried the chip in mine, but my existing chip was quicker (although the TVP was a quicker car, presumably lighter (all ARV cabinets long removed), and possibly lower geared (doubt it was LSD on an auto))
Never, ever seen engine mods.
Bigger batteries and alternators, beefier rear springs.
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Oh, and the DBW ones had beefier front pipes so they didn't glow quite so much...
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Heavy duty cats? £700 each?
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Heavy duty cats? £700 each?
!!! Does that mean my current 3.2 Manual is worth more as scrap?
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Heavy duty cats? £700 each?
!!! Does that mean my current 3.2 Manual is worth more as scrap?
I think you still only get £30 a pop for DBW cats.... ;)
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Heavy duty cats? £700 each?
!!! Does that mean my current 3.2 Manual is worth more as scrap?
I think you still only get £30 a pop for DBW cats.... ;)
Yea, I know, wouldn't scrap it scrap anyway, unless I wrap it, a very quick remap 3.2, LPG and full stainless which for once actually softly suits the V6 engine noise rather than sounding like a Essex pimp.
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the only thing thant make me think its had cams is the fact it doesnt have any cam sensors or pick ups even tho the wires are there and the covers are shaped to hold them but its got 4 of the same cam pullys is that normal?
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The cam sensor is mounted on no 3 cam cap.
The covers have bulges which were alleged to be there due to the potential to fit VVT (never released).
So all four cam sprockets look the same (although in reality they are not as the timing marks are different between the 1-2's and 3-4's)
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mmm. the old police spec saga rears its head again.
as said already in this post mods are
alternators 120amp,heaver front and rear springs, some manwell cars had diesel gearboxes as 1st gear is stronger due to the torque of the tractor at low revs.A lot of met cars had tow-bars fitted no electrics fitted just for use as protection. The brakes are standard 3.0L/3.2L. Just regular fluid changes.
L.S.D as standard on manwell and auto. the met used a lot of autos due to the traffic in that force area. TVP cars were one of the 1st to have limo glass in the rear on estates. all off the parts are available from G.M. just look on the EPC. and as for the biggest question were any modified the answer is yes mainley ARV's and covert uses eg diplomatic protection and security service(mi5/mi6). they had a remapped ecu which upon the veichle being sold was removed,a few have slipped thro.there are some ex diplomatic/arv units with reinforced bumpers,and kevlar door inserts.
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so how do YOu fix them and where ArE the multi rams?
Fixed that for you ...... :)
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it does have cam sensors - it just wouldn't run if not. They're in the top of the head tho., not in the (unused) bulges in the cam belt cover.
The 54degree V6 was initially to have variable cam timing, which is what the bulges were for. Dropped by GM before job 1
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LSD probably only fitted to 25% of Police cars - at the most.