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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Del Boy on 02 November 2011, 08:13:43
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My company had five drivers robbed last week, all one day after the other, he (the theif) then set about robbing three drivers from 2 other companies. At the weekend all of our drivers knew who he was, and we had a picture of him in all 30 cars. The police were informed and were on the hunt for him, as he'd just come out of prison after a five year stretch for an armed robbery on a Tesco store in Ashford. So anyway, we were informed Monday that he'd been caught, and the police had him in custody. Alls well that ends well me and all the other drivers thought, anyway yesterday the police told us he's been in court and been let off as they're is insufficient evidence!!! They said "because you've had pictures in the car you're drivers and the drivers from the other companies are just going on that"! Not the fact that every driver who was robbed confirmed that it was him. So he's got away with around £2000 and got off with it. This country is a sham!
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what a disgrace del still its about right for our legal system >:(
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It's good to know wihat with all the other troubles in this country, that the legal system is still functioning fine >:(:y
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This is what happens when the law is a business and not what it was intended to be. It would cost money to go through the courts and jail him, so no profit. Much better to fine the generally law abiding, they make profit then.
I understand how wrong it is.
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How bizarre . :o
Surely the Police had the drivers and any other witnesses who were actually robbed, identify the accussed ?
I would have thought that that would have been more than sufficient evidence to proceed......
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Why am I not suprised, taking the easiest way out useless tossers >:( >:(
I have lost all faith in our police force I am sorry to say, not a bloody clue have of 'em :(. If you report 'owt short of murder they send round a plastic community whatever if they send any one at all. >:( >:(.
I know that there are good coppers out there, and if I was involved in a serious car crash they would be the first to help, but as for crime I give in.
This country needs to get seriously back on track.
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How bizarre . :o
Surely the Police had the drivers and any other witnesses who were actually robbed, identify the accussed ?
I would have thought that that would have been more than sufficient evidence to proceed......
Apparently that's insufficient evidence, even though when shown the picture the drivers' said that's him to the Police.
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Why am I not suprised, taking the easiest way out useless tossers >:( >:(
I have lost all faith in our police force I am sorry to say, not a bloody clue have of 'em :(. If you report 'owt short of murder they send round a plastic community whatever if they send any one at all. >:( >:(.
I know that there are good coppers out there, and if I was involved in a serious car crash they would be the first to help, but as for crime I give in.
This country needs to get seriously back on track.
SORRY I read this wrong and had an unwarranted pop at the police, for which I apologise.
Obviously I should have questioned the legal system allowing the chap to evade punishment.
Note to self.... READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU DO ANTHYTHING
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Just goes to show , how the do gooders have made this place into a haven for the crims to go and do what they like >:( >:( >:(
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it tells u crime does pay
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Did the drivers who were victims/witnesses all provide written statements to Police?
Was the CCTV / Pictures seized and exhibited?
Surely, at minimum, for something of this nature, a trial would be held, and relevent people called to give evidence? :(
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Did the drivers who were victims/witnesses all provide written statements to Police?
Was the CCTV / Pictures seized and exhibited?
Surely, at minimum, for something of this nature, a trial would be held, and relevent people called to give evidence? :(
All pictures taken from the car of the offender were taken by the Police, they weren't asked to give statements, only asked when shown a photo "Is this him?" to which they replied yes. Thing is, he was inside for 5 years, for armed robbery and this has insufficient evidence >:( Makes my blood boil, I do hope he tries it on with one of us lot again, we've all been told "Do what you like" this time!
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Did the drivers who were victims/witnesses all provide written statements to Police?
Was the CCTV / Pictures seized and exhibited?
Surely, at minimum, for something of this nature, a trial would be held, and relevent people called to give evidence? :(
All pictures taken from the car of the offender were taken by the Police, they weren't asked to give statements, only asked when shown a photo "Is this him?" to which they replied yes. Thing is, he was inside for 5 years, for armed robbery and this has insufficient evidence >:( Makes my blood boil, I do hope he tries it on with one of us lot again, we've all been told "Do what you like" this time!
it would seem thats the only way these days just be careful you dont end up nicked for sorting him out :y
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Did the drivers who were victims/witnesses all provide written statements to Police?
Was the CCTV / Pictures seized and exhibited?
Surely, at minimum, for something of this nature, a trial would be held, and relevent people called to give evidence? :(
All pictures taken from the car of the offender were taken by the Police, they weren't asked to give statements, only asked when shown a photo "Is this him?" to which they replied yes. Thing is, he was inside for 5 years, for armed robbery and this has insufficient evidence >:( Makes my blood boil, I do hope he tries it on with one of us lot again, we've all been told "Do what you like" this time!
it would seem thats the only way these days just be careful you dont end up nicked for sorting him out :y
I honestly think it is mate to be honest, but I know what'll happen, he'll strike again, or one of us lot will see him, and we'll be the ones who get in trouble >:(
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Did the drivers who were victims/witnesses all provide written statements to Police?
Was the CCTV / Pictures seized and exhibited?
Surely, at minimum, for something of this nature, a trial would be held, and relevent people called to give evidence? :(
All pictures taken from the car of the offender were taken by the Police, they weren't asked to give statements, only asked when shown a photo "Is this him?" to which they replied yes. Thing is, he was inside for 5 years, for armed robbery and this has insufficient evidence >:( Makes my blood boil, I do hope he tries it on with one of us lot again, we've all been told "Do what you like" this time!
it would seem thats the only way these days just be careful you dont end up nicked for sorting him out :y
I honestly think it is mate to be honest, but I know what'll happen, he'll strike again, or one of us lot will see him, and we'll be the ones who get in trouble >:(
your not wrong del and you know full well you would get the book thrown at you >:(
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Please remember ... THIS DECISION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE. The police send the papers on the case ... all evidence, witness statements etc etc .. to the Crown Prosecution Service .. it is the "reviewing lawyer" who decides if a case goes to Court or not.
The ability of the Police to prosecute a case was removed some years back by Nu Labour.
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Please remember ... THIS DECISION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE. The police send the papers on the case ... all evidence, witness statements etc etc .. to the Crown Prosecution Service .. it is the "reviewing lawyer" who decides if a case goes to Court or not.
The ability of the Police to prosecute a case was removed some years back by Nu Labour.
A load of shitbags, what they want is no record of reoffending after release as it will affect the "rehabilitated stats" I work with people on probation and it's near impossible to get them sent back to prison as it fooks up the probation service stats >:(
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Please remember ... THIS DECISION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE. The police send the papers on the case ... all evidence, witness statements etc etc .. to the Crown Prosecution Service .. it is the "reviewing lawyer" who decides if a case goes to Court or not.
The ability of the Police to prosecute a case was removed some years back by Nu Labour.
Although in this case, Del is saying that, despite positively identifying the offender, his staff have not been asked to give statements? Seems rather odd! :(
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Please remember ... THIS DECISION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE. The police send the papers on the case ... all evidence, witness statements etc etc .. to the Crown Prosecution Service .. it is the "reviewing lawyer" who decides if a case goes to Court or not.
The ability of the Police to prosecute a case was removed some years back by Nu Labour.
Although in this case, Del is saying that, despite positively identifying the offender, his staff have not been asked to give statements? Seems rather odd! :(
In the opening post the Op states
.................. anyway yesterday the police told us he's been in court and been let off as they're is insufficient evidence!!! .....................................
which appears, to me anyway, that CPS took the matter to the Magistrates Court without gathering any more evidence. CPS SHOULD, (IMHO), have instructed the Officer of the Case to obtain the required statements. CPS run and manage all prosecutions and it is their responsibility to ensure the evidence is available and presented.
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totally agree...
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So who do you complain to if CPS are negligent in their duty ?. Or is it not worth it ?.
Ken
P.S. remember Del, you must use reasonable force, for defense only. Although how you define reasonable force..........
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My company had five drivers robbed last week, all one day after the other, he (the theif) then set about robbing three drivers from 2 other companies. At the weekend all of our drivers knew who he was, and we had a picture of him in all 30 cars. The police were informed and were on the hunt for him, as he'd just come out of prison after a five year stretch for an armed robbery on a Tesco store in Ashford. So anyway, we were informed Monday that he'd been caught, and the police had him in custody. Alls well that ends well me and all the other drivers thought, anyway yesterday the police told us he's been in court and been let off as they're is insufficient evidence!!! They said "because you've had pictures in the car you're drivers and the drivers from the other companies are just going on that"! Not the fact that every driver who was robbed confirmed that it was him. So he's got away with around £2000 and got off with it. This country is a sham!
Del, what is your business? I thought you were a motor trader, but you talk of drivers :-\ you do not have to answer this on here if you would rather not? I am just being nosey.... :y