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Title: Food paranoia
Post by: omegod on 15 November 2011, 21:28:23
SWMBO is amazingly paranoid about sell by dates etc and storing food after cooking, I generally dont care, will eat most things unless they are obviously manky and have never had food poisoning or even a dicky belly.

We have a big slab of leftover roast pork from Sunday in the fridge, well cooked and well wrapped but she recoiled in horror when I was going to have a sarnie earlier on!  I had no qualms and scoffed it but would you have?
 
I can't see people having been so paranoid in the fourties and fifties so why so now.
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Vamps on 15 November 2011, 21:34:39
SWMBO is amazingly paranoid about sell by dates etc and storing food after cooking, I generally dont care, will eat most things unless they are obviously manky and have never had food poisoning or even a dicky belly.

We have a big slab of leftover roast pork from Sunday in the fridge, well cooked and well wrapped but she recoiled in horror when I was going to have a sarnie earlier on!  I had no qualms and scoffed it but would you have?
 
I can't see people having been so paranoid in the fourties and fifties so why so now.

We are too quick to throw food away these days, that pork will be fine, only 2 days since cooked  and its in a fridge, not just on a marble shelf in the larder:y  good for the rest of the week I would have thought...... :) :)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: PhilRich on 15 November 2011, 21:44:22
Keep on eating it in sarnies until it starts to turn green, then cut it into chunks & toss it in a pan with some curry powder! Lovely Grub!!! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: cam2502 on 15 November 2011, 21:45:03
2 days after is the max i would eat it,certainly wouldnt touch it after a week :o
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 15 November 2011, 21:55:16
It would also depend on how cold the fridge is I would imagine.
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: omegod on 15 November 2011, 22:22:51
It would also depend on how cold the fridge is I would imagine.

It's colder than my ex's heart so no worries there!
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Amigo on 15 November 2011, 22:23:55
You do have to be careful but i tend to agree that we can tell if something is fit to eat or not
& many are too quick to throw food out...probably never had student/bedsit days & been REALLY hungry. I've kept uneaten sarnies in my pack up box for two or three days, still fine. Cut the mouldy edge off the cheese, fine underneath, no need to throw good food out when others are starving. goes to show how lucky we are to have the choice.

   If your better half was that worried about you eating Sundays pork why was it still in the fridge? Be careful with seafood though!!!!
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 November 2011, 23:55:32
You should not be throwing any food away - it is a waste
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: jonnycool on 16 November 2011, 00:02:05
I sniff it - if it smells ok, it gets scoffed  :)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2011, 00:08:44
I sniff it - if it smells ok, it gets scoffed  :)
Yep. :y If it's not minging, hasn't run away of its' own accord and hasn't got furry, It's fair game.
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Webby the Bear on 16 November 2011, 00:09:22
gorillas eat their on shit; you dont hear them complaining of food poisoning.

eat it unless it's green 'n' furry is my rule  :y
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Jimbob on 16 November 2011, 08:32:54
A sunday roast normally keeps me in beef butties till friday :y
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Andy B on 16 November 2011, 09:09:56
A sunday roast normally keeps me in beef butties till friday :y

How big is your Sunday roast? ??? There's very rarely anything left of ours on the Sunday ........... we're greedy buggers.  ;D
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Bionic on 16 November 2011, 09:36:53
Too much food is now thrown out due to people being brainwashed by the idiots who proclaim that it is unfit. Unfit for what? Could it be that it is unfit because the manufacturers and retailers will lose lots of profits if they cannot sell more to us and so conceal the truth?
I agree with the majority of those old enough to remember that at one time nothing got thrown out until it was totally beyond salvage even with the ubiquitous curry powder because it was too exopensive to do so.
It does not take a brain surgeon to know when food is off and cannot be eaten without risk. We have a well developed senses of sight, taste and smell so anyone who eats it when it is telling them that it is off only get what they deserve.
Seafood is the worst offender and is so good at disguising when its off that you should stick to the sell by and consume by dates.
Brings to thought the old days when we used to 'aquire' game and let it hang until the maggotts had come and gone......now that was tender meat! ;)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: bob.dent on 16 November 2011, 09:43:17
I sniff it - if it smells ok, it gets scoffed  :)

Yep, I'll go along with that. :y I only use the "use by" dates as a guide, so if it's only a couple of days past and smells ok it's fair game. Cooked meat if wrapped and in fridge should be good for 4-5 days. ;)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Jimbob on 16 November 2011, 09:52:11
A sunday roast normally keeps me in beef butties till friday :y

How big is your Sunday roast? ??? There's very rarely anything left of ours on the Sunday ........... we're greedy buggers.  ;D

very :D  I buy it large enough to last a week, and you know me....I dont do small portions either!
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 November 2011, 10:02:26
I had a half french housemate a few years ago, who would only buy his cheese from the 'bargain' shelves in the supermarket, so it was always just on the sell by date.  He'd then leave it for a couple of weeks before eating it!! He reckoned it was the only way to have decent cheese in Britain.....  :-\  Needless to say, our fridge stank!!  :o :o   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: aaronjb on 16 November 2011, 10:40:27
I sniff it - if it smells ok, it gets scoffed  :)
Yep. :y If it's not minging, hasn't run away of its' own accord and hasn't got furry, It's fair game.

I listened to a radio report a few weeks ago about this very subject - they had one person from the Food Standards Agency on and one other expert type person. She (the second person) said much what you did, while the FSA man kept repeating that food past it's 'Use By' date isn't safe and should be treated like chemical waste.. ;D

Though he did at least point out that 'Best Before' does not mean 'Will kill you after', but actually means 'Might not taste as good'.. 'Use By' is 'Will kill you after' ;D

It was a comical conversation on the air, really, as he would not be swayed from the party line..
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: maracus on 16 November 2011, 10:44:39
I worked in a kitchen at a retirement home for too long it made me aware of the rubbish they say but my understanding is that you only need really worry about being careful if your feeding the very young or very old, ie. Weak immunity. As said if it looks ok/smells ok that's a good enough indication but I won't touch chicken that's been sat all week, also if something's been sat in a warm, sweaty, hasn't been cleaned for months microwave, overnight, I can't help but think of all the bacteria multiplication that's happened (bacteria doubles every twenty mins at 36 odd degrees) also if the food gets left out the cats normally find it and muller it, won't touch it then lol. But generally, keep it cool and if it don't grow legs and walk off it'll be ok.
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Andy B on 16 November 2011, 11:11:11
.... and you know me....I dont do small portions either!

I know!!!  ;D ;D ;D

The only OOFer to model himself on his avitar!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: P_Russell on 16 November 2011, 13:07:08
How long do you think butchers shops & deli's keep their cooked meats in fridges for?????

A damn sight longer than 2 days........
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 November 2011, 13:16:05
A good piece of "iffy" meat will probably do no more than stimulate your immune system. :) Many people seemed to  to "survive" a meal in the days before sell by dates and fridges. ;)

Our immune systems are not as robust as they should be these days. 
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: jonnycool on 16 November 2011, 17:35:58
A good piece of "iffy" meat will probably do no more than stimulate your immune system. :) Many people seemed to  to "survive" a meal in the days before sell by dates and fridges. ;)

Our immune systems are not as robust as they should be these days.

Quite right, we're encouraged to nuke all known germs whenever we touch anything with gels and sprays - it's quite a well-known fact that the people who have the best immune systems and are the least affected by illness are farmers and their families  :)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 November 2011, 17:43:24
A good piece of "iffy" meat will probably do no more than stimulate your immune system. :) Many people seemed to  to "survive" a meal in the days before sell by dates and fridges. ;)

Our immune systems are not as robust as they should be these days.

Quite right, we're encouraged to nuke all known germs whenever we touch anything with gels and sprays - it's quite a well-known fact that the people who have the best immune systems and are the least affected by illness are farmers and their families  :)



 Yep. We are all so paranoid about germs these days. Have you  seen the "no touch" hygiene gels, as advertised on television?
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: jonnycool on 16 November 2011, 17:46:19
A good piece of "iffy" meat will probably do no more than stimulate your immune system. :) Many people seemed to  to "survive" a meal in the days before sell by dates and fridges. ;)

Our immune systems are not as robust as they should be these days.

Quite right, we're encouraged to nuke all known germs whenever we touch anything with gels and sprays - it's quite a well-known fact that the people who have the best immune systems and are the least affected by illness are farmers and their families  :)



 Yep. We are all so paranoid about germs these days. Have you  seen the "no touch" hygiene gels, as advertised on television?

Yeah, as if touching the nozzle is going to transfer all those nasty germs to your poor lickle belly  ::)
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 16 November 2011, 18:37:37
How long do you think butchers shops & deli's keep their cooked meats in fridges for?????

A damn sight longer than 2 days........

I bought some bacon from the deli counter of a supermarket......on the way home tonight....marked at 1/2 price, coz they need to shift it before they close tonight.....no idea how long its been on display....looks ok to me..and far better tasting than packet bacon, imo..and will go down well with the fryup im having tonight  :)

And reminds me i must do something with the rest of the lamb joint, that i cooked monday night.....curry time tomorrow night perhaps....
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 November 2011, 21:38:01
A good piece of "iffy" meat will probably do no more than stimulate your immune system. :) Many people seemed to  to "survive" a meal in the days before sell by dates and fridges. ;)

Our immune systems are not as robust as they should be these days.

Quite right, we're encouraged to nuke all known germs whenever we touch anything with gels and sprays - it's quite a well-known fact that the people who have the best immune systems and are the least affected by illness are farmers and their families  :)



 Yep. We are all so paranoid about germs these days. Have you  seen the "no touch" hygiene gels, as advertised on television?
Two questions spring to mind when I see that advert;
1. How do you turn the taps on?
2. Isn't their soap good enough to kill any germs you might pick up anyway?
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 November 2011, 21:39:43
How long do you think butchers shops & deli's keep their cooked meats in fridges for? ??? ?

A damn sight longer than 2 days........

I bought some bacon from the deli counter of a supermarket......on the way home tonight....marked at 1/2 price, coz they need to shift it before they close tonight.....no idea how long its been on display....looks ok to me..and far better tasting than packet bacon, imo..and will go down well with the fryup im having tonight  :)

And reminds me i must do something with the rest of the lamb joint, that i cooked monday night.....curry time tomorrow night perhaps....
HollyDog to the rescue. ;D
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: omegod on 16 November 2011, 22:37:18
Well finally finished it and still standing!

Was talking to a friend today who was a butcher,he was saying look out for the beef in the reduced counter that looks to be turning grey/green as it will be superb!

Apparently rice is the worst thing to reuse/reheat!
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: P_Russell on 17 November 2011, 12:24:28
Indeed re-heated rice will be full of aflotoxins, be careful with that one.

As for beef - the reduced stuff is the best, it's only a bit of oxidation.  You would normally pay a premium for well hung meat!
Title: Re: Food paranoia
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2011, 13:25:53
Been reheating rice for years and not killed myself yet ;) then again it's only a day old, Chinese takeaway doesn't last any longer in my house!

I imagine it can't be that much different to the packets of microwave rice, as they're essentially cooked (albeit in a sterile environment) and then reheated..

I wouldn't leave rice for a few days and then reheat it, mind.