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Title: Oxford taxis
Post by: Nickbat on 17 November 2011, 21:57:56
PLANS to install CCTV cameras recording sound and video in all Oxford’s taxis have sparked a civil liberties debate.

The plans, as revealed in Monday’s Oxford Mail, will see all conversations recorded as well as video footage from the moment the key is turned in the ignition until 30 minutes after the car is switched off.

http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/9365114.Taxi_CCTV_story_sparks_UK_debate/?ref=twtrec (http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/9365114.Taxi_CCTV_story_sparks_UK_debate/?ref=twtrec)

How long before all cabs get this? How long before we're watched...and listened to...24/7?

 :o :o ::) ::)
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Vamps on 17 November 2011, 22:22:41
PLANS to install CCTV cameras recording sound and video in all Oxford’s taxis have sparked a civil liberties debate.

The plans, as revealed in Monday’s Oxford Mail, will see all conversations recorded as well as video footage from the moment the key is turned in the ignition until 30 minutes after the car is switched off.

http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/9365114.Taxi_CCTV_story_sparks_UK_debate/?ref=twtrec (http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/9365114.Taxi_CCTV_story_sparks_UK_debate/?ref=twtrec)

How long before all cabs get this? How long before we're watched...and listened to...24/7?
 :o :o ::) ::)

And have the Nanny State take over everything we do...........2014 is my guess, Orwell was right just 30 years out... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:28:38
on the other side though plenty of cabbies get robbed etc  may deter it
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: the alarming man on 17 November 2011, 22:30:43
quite a few of cabs down here have it already...got nothing to hide and you are catching a cab to have a night out...wheres the problem :y
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:34:27
they need the for the cabs in london   they can play the footage back to the cabbies so they can listen to the old sh1t they prattle on about ;D ;D     and before anyone starts thats not all cabbies :y
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 November 2011, 22:47:53
Nothing to do subversive conversations, it's all about catching the smokers!!  :y ;D :-X
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:50:16
Nothing to do subversive conversations, it's all about catching the smokers!!  :y ;D :-X

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Nickbat on 17 November 2011, 22:57:30
on the other side though plenty of cabbies get robbed etc  may deter it
Yep, spot on. In fact, I think they need to install CCTV in very car to see whether you have exceeded the speed limit, or committed an action of "road rage". They could also use it to check if you have halted on double yellow lines. In fact, they could install CCTV on your head to make sure you never utter a word which could be construed as sexist or racist. They should also install CCTV in your home to ensure that you do not smack your children (child abuse) or light up a ciggie in the kitchen (crimes against humanity). In fact, I think they should hard-wire our brains (with wireless satellite communication) to ensure we don't think have any thoughts that are not approved.

 ;) ;) ;D ::)
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 23:01:33
on the other side though plenty of cabbies get robbed etc  may deter it
Yep, spot on. In fact, I think they need to install CCTV in very car to see whether you have exceeded the speed limit, or committed an action of "road rage". They could also use it to check if you have halted on double yellow lines. In fact, they could install CCTV on your head to make sure you never utter a word which could be construed as sexist or racist. They should also install CCTV in your home to ensure that you do not smack your children (child abuse) or light up a ciggie in the kitchen (crimes against humanity). In fact, I think they should hard-wire our brains (with wireless satellite communication) to ensure we don't think have any thoughts that are not approved.

 ;) ;) ;D ::)

behave nick if they did that id be doing a 20 stretch within a day ;D
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Webby the Bear on 17 November 2011, 23:04:47
if you aint gonna commit a felony you aint going to have it used against you  :y
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Nickbat on 17 November 2011, 23:07:56
if you aint gonna commit a felony you aint going to have it used against you  :y

Spot on, Webby. ;)

I never, ever, break a law...or even bye-law. What do I have to worry about?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Del Boy on 17 November 2011, 23:47:39
Our Taxis have Cameras in them, that's how the person who robbed us was caught originally  :)
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Omega32E on 17 November 2011, 23:54:43
Will be the same story here, the idea being sold to us and on the surface seems good. The problem here is what comes further down the line and slowly but surely they begin to use the same equipment for other purposes and before you know it you are under constant observation for everything you do or say.
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: MaxV6 on 18 November 2011, 02:07:55
i'd rather they wer epointed at the drivers and forwards./...     to see how bloody awful their driving is.....    and how much time they spend on their phones while driving.....    blooody dangerous lunatics most of them....
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: cleggy on 18 November 2011, 06:23:41
Why can't the camera be connected to the meter?  So that when the cab is working it can be monitored, and when it is in private use, like taking the cabbies kids to school it stays private. :y
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 18 November 2011, 06:47:49
i'd rather they wer epointed at the drivers and forwards./...     to see how bloody awful their driving is.....    and how much time they spend on their phones while driving.....    blooody dangerous lunatics most of them....

I think you might find that if every driver had a camera pointed at them.....there would be a lot more prosecutions of private car drivers than cab drivers......i see appalling driving everyday from private car drivers.....occasionally from a professional driver........but then you get the occasional numpty in every trade. 

Cameras in cabs, imo, are a good idea. I would have installed one ages ago in mine, if it wasnt for the cost.....i looked into it a few years ago.....iirc it was going to cost £1500+ to have a professional setup....you would not believe the abuse and insults cab drivers get (usually late at night and alcohol fuelled), that would not be tolerated in any other business.
Ever been in a cab and trim is missing? Who do think does that? Its not the driver.
Theres a little saying...."If its not bolted down, it'll get nicked"

So apart from cameras would reduce the abuse, it would help prevent the vandalism that goes on in the back of cabs  :y
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Auto Addict on 18 November 2011, 06:59:35
i'd rather they wer epointed at the drivers and forwards./...     to see how bloody awful their driving is.....    and how much time they spend on their phones while driving.....    blooody dangerous lunatics most of them....

I think you might find that if every driver had a camera pointed at them.....there would be a lot more prosecutions of private car drivers than cab drivers......i see appalling driving everyday from private car drivers.....occasionally from a professional driver........but then you get the occasional numpty in every trade. 

Cameras in cabs, imo, are a good idea. I would have installed one ages ago in mine, if it wasnt for the cost.....i looked into it a few years ago.....iirc it was going to cost £1500+ to have a professional setup....you would not believe the abuse and insults cab drivers get (usually late at night and alcohol fuelled), that would not be tolerated in any other business.
Ever been in a cab and trim is missing? Who do think does that? Its not the driver.
Theres a little saying...."If its not bolted down, it'll get nicked"

So apart from cameras would reduce the abuse, it would help prevent the vandalism that goes on in the back of cabs  :y

...but TD, you don't live in Birmingham..... ::)
Title: Re: Oxford taxis
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 18 November 2011, 08:43:48


 How long before we're watched...and listened to...24/7?

 


While it's useful to have surveillance in cabs for the many of the reasons outlined by TD, you're right to finish off with those words.

24 hour surveillance of the general populace - given the technology currently available - is easy to implement and will be the natural consequence of such initiatives started for innocuous and apparently sensible reasons.

It's amusing to see how those in the sovereign parliament of this country trumpet the benefits of living in a ‘free and democratic society’ when, plainly, it is anything but – then, the rights, wellbeing and true security of those who voted them into office in the first place are the furthest thing from their collective minds when they assume the protection of that bubble which encapsulates the environs of Westminster.