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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: zirk on 20 November 2011, 20:06:47
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Need some pointers with anyone with Tis or fuse info.
Senario, 2.0 CDX, owner has flat battery and a broken bonnet release, I need to pick up and move the car next tuesday.
My plan is to slow charge the battery tomorrow and over night till tuesday morning, thinking about stuffing a charger either on the interior light but guessing thats got a 5 amp fuse inline, or go the other side of its fuse (battery side), reckon on slow charge should be no more than 8 amps through the charger.
Does that fuse ppint go straight to the battery or is there another pick up point from the drivers side fuse point that will do the job.
Ideally looking at going direct or through the bigger master fuse from the fuse panel.
Thanks chris.
Sorry for any typos as doing this on the mobile.
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mmmm... thinking out loud .....
On both the old 2.5 (MFL) and this one (FL) - both Elites mind - the interior lights were powered through a "time delay" relay, such that they went of after a few seconds ... if your 2.0 has that same system then you'll get nowhere trying to charge via a light.
Ciggy lighters were the same
Leaves me thinking ... "parking lights" - these remain powered at all times when selected on ... can you get a feed in through that circuit ???
Haynes has that as Fuse 23 - 10 amp
There is also listed Fuse 29 - caravan constant current supply at 20 amps .. and that terminates in the boot .. might be worth a thought ?? The socket is behind the rear boot panel if no towbar socket fitted
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Thanks Entwood, yea cant check the delay on the int light, flat battery, its a W 2000 CDX so no idea on them.
Must admit totaly forbpt about the towing thing, so far looking at fuse 23 and 29 thanks.
Normally would just stuff 12v from under the starter motor and jump it, but I really dont have time tomorrow to mess about and seems a bit pointless unless I can remove tne battery, which I cant. So just looking at moving the car back to my pad then have play.
Thanks Cnris.
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F17 Horn fuse 20A, always live, connected to battery. You can use it to charge battery :y just make sure everything is switched off.
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Fuse 17, added to list, thanks Chris. :y :y
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Failing that - just break the grill and open the bonnet. ;)
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Failing that - just break the grill and open the bonnet. ;)
You haven't got any left now ;D
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Actually - I think I know where I can rustle another one up from if need be.Might take a few days,but I believe Zirk is paying me a visit on weds,so may just be able to get hold of one by then. :) :D
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Failing that - just break the grill and open the bonnet. ;)
Irmsner or what ever the other ones called begins witn Smez, grill and front bumper, hence why I intrested in the car
;) ;) ;) :y
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Actually - I think I know where I can rustle another one up from if need be.Might take a few days,but I believe Zirk is paying me a visit on weds,so may just be able to get hold of one by then. :) :D
Albs, if I can get this sorted it will be in the afternoon, otherwise wed am.
:y
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Ok Zirk. :y.................if its one of those expensive grills,best not take a hammer to it then. ::) ;D
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Lift front near side of the car enough that you can reach the starter. The other end of the main cable from the battery is connected to the starter, connect your charger there. :y :y
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Thanks Andy, but as said before would normally jump start from the starter point. Car is parked on wet grass, and really dont have the time tomorrow to piss around so need to charge it, figers crossed will start and drie it away for 50 notes, mot os out coe wecnesday
Cnris.
::)
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i would give the caravan constant feed a go tbh. :y
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Thanks Andy, but as said before would normally jump start from the starter point. Car is parked on wet grass, and really dont have the time tomorrow to piss around so need to charge it, figers crossed will start and drie it away for 50 notes, mot os out coe wecnesday
Cnris.
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Who mentioned jump starts? ::) I said you could connect your charger to it. ;) ;)
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
Perhaps the multitimer and fuse have rusted through and are now dead shorts.
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
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It won't work on Omega, unless you leave car with ignition ON. But it is quite risky, because it will not only charge battery, but also will feed all electrics on car (ECU, ABS, Airbag, Heater.....). So you can end with melted wire insulation for cigarette lighter :-\
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
mine has out put charge for cig lighter with safty cut out switch. you dont jump start it when on cig light charge just leave it pluged in for half hour. has worked on mine when had bad battery. volts can go in but dont come out...
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
mine has out put charge for cig lighter with safty cut out switch. you dont jump start it when on cig light charge just leave it pluged in for half hour. has worked on mine when had bad battery. volts can go in but dont come out...
But the lighter socket is disconnected from the battery by the ignition switch unless you leave the ignition switched on, so it won't charge the battery anyway.(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
mine has out put charge for cig lighter with safty cut out switch. you dont jump start it when on cig light charge just leave it pluged in for half hour. has worked on mine when had bad battery. volts can go in but dont come out...
But the lighter socket is disconnected from the battery by the ignition switch unless you leave the ignition switched on, so it won't charge the battery anyway.(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
Meanwhile in a parallel Universe something totally opposite is happening ;D
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
mine has out put charge for cig lighter with safty cut out switch. you dont jump start it when on cig light charge just leave it pluged in for half hour. has worked on mine when had bad battery. volts can go in but dont come out...
But the lighter socket is disconnected from the battery by the ignition switch unless you leave the ignition switched on, so it won't charge the battery anyway.(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
Is there a timer on it? Noticed you can still draw some power from ciggy with key out.
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
mine has out put charge for cig lighter with safty cut out switch. you dont jump start it when on cig light charge just leave it pluged in for half hour. has worked on mine when had bad battery. volts can go in but dont come out...
But the lighter socket is disconnected from the battery by the ignition switch unless you leave the ignition switched on, so it won't charge the battery anyway.(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
Is there a timer on it? Noticed you can still draw some power from ciggy with key out.
The facelift rear lighter socket is active for a few minutes after ignition turned off.. unless your battery is flat, in whichb case the timer relay won't pull in. ;)
The front lighter socket switches off with ignition.
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mine use cig ligter charges up battery with key on or off.
Well yours is shagged then.
no its not dose what jump says plug in to cig lighter and charge..
similiar to this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-IN-1-Jumpstart-Cars-Vans-Boat-Cigarette-Lighter-12v-Connector-RRP-39-/190577184329?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5f490e49
mine has out put charge for cig lighter with safty cut out switch. you dont jump start it when on cig light charge just leave it pluged in for half hour. has worked on mine when had bad battery. volts can go in but dont come out...
But the lighter socket is disconnected from the battery by the ignition switch unless you leave the ignition switched on, so it won't charge the battery anyway.(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)
Is there a timer on it? Noticed you can still draw some power from ciggy with key out.
The facelift rear lighter socket is active for a few minutes after ignition turned off.. unless your battery is flat, in whichb case the timer relay won't pull in. ;)
The front lighter socket switches off with ignition.
Mine rear one seems to work for about 15 minutes .... which is what the handbook says .. :)
Page 75
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf
:)
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Ok, went there last night and got on charge (F29 and 17 works well) went back lunch time today and it started on the button, so thanks all :y
Agreed last night with the guy £200 max, assuming it starts, so having turned up today and got the car running for Him (and Me), He says to me, Ive had the car valued by one of these so called 'we buy any crappy car dot con' for £650 and a local guy who's told Him £500 min, can I up the ante a bit more to fall in line with this! coz He thinks Im taking the piss a bit!
Those of you that have met Me, know Im a fairly down to earth type bloke, so we had a bit more of a diplomatic conversation which started to get a bit heated, so I decided just to walk.
Think my last words where something like, think your the one taking the piss, MOT runs out tonight
does'nt mate, good luck with it.
Not even a thank you for getting His Car going, Oh well some you win and all that.
Chris >:( :(
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£650 for omega ;D last time i asked about price of my fathers 2.2 omega they offered £300 :( this guy must be joking...
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Not even a thank you for getting His Car going...
I would have given him an invoice for the 'call out' fee...
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I would have given him an invoice for the 'call out' fee...
A very hefty slap
(http://www.dndservices.co.uk/smiley/tosser.gif)
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I would have given him an invoice for the 'call out' fee...
A very hefty slap
I like the sound of that, a hefty invoice slapped round the side of the face,
Wonder If I can also charge Him for the can of Expanding Foam with the extended Tube for His internal Exhaust modification Im pondering on doing.
:-X