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Title: Kick Down...
Post by: omega2012 on 01 December 2011, 16:31:25
ok, as some may have seen in my last post, took the omega for a long drive today, was stuck behind a lorry doing about 30-40mph, saw a clear gap so went to take it, put my foot down kick down kicked in, but wouldnt change up a gear again it just redlined, untill i let off the throttle abit then it felt likeit slip in to the upper gear... is this normal for a omega?

never had it before on other autos ive had!
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: tunnie on 01 December 2011, 16:33:19
No it should change just a fraction before red line with Sport mode (S button on the gear stick)
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: omega2012 on 01 December 2011, 16:35:02
this was without sports mode, but i did try at another point to do it in sports mode but same again!
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: aaronjb on 01 December 2011, 16:37:14
No it should change just a fraction before red line with Sport mode (S button on the gear stick)

With or without Sport mode, if you've got your foot buried in the shagpile it should change at the redline, or near as damnit anyway..

You're right though, not normal, not normal at all. Time to drop the autobox oil and check for bits of thrust washer, perhaps?
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: Ian_D on 01 December 2011, 16:39:48
If your foot is planted and held down on the kickdown switch, it will rev to just before the rev limiter, then change up.
It makes no difference if its in sports mode or not when your foot is firmly planted too the floor.  ;D

Did it actually hit the rev limiter? As when I first got mine, I sometimes used to see the revs go up and think 'change...change...change' and then I would lift off the throttle thinking it wouldn't change up in time... however if I just left it a fraction longer it would have done!  :y
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: omega2012 on 01 December 2011, 16:42:29
If your foot is planted and held down on the kickdown switch, it will rev to just before the rev limiter, then change up.
It makes no difference if its in sports mode or not when your foot is firmly planted too the floor.  ;D

Did it actually hit the rev limiter? As when I first got mine, I sometimes used to see the revs go up and think 'change...change...change' and then I would lift off the throttle thinking it wouldn't change up in time... however if I just left it a fraction longer it would have done!  :y

yes it was redlining, the needle was bouncing
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: Ian_D on 01 December 2011, 20:10:28
Thats not right then! As others have said, check the ATF level and top up / change if needed.

It shoud change straight away just before the limiter in a quick action to the next gear without any slipping etc.
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: omega2012 on 01 December 2011, 21:50:04
ok thanks for the advice, will give it a check tomorrow morning.. will report back.
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: omega2012 on 02 December 2011, 11:34:44
UPDATE - took her out this morning for further tests...

she is bouncing at 4 and a half k revs in normal mode and boucing just on the redline in sports mode!

havent had chance to check levels yet, catch up on work day today :-(
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: M Kerr on 02 December 2011, 14:20:43
 :o
...foot to the floor; I don't have time to look at the rev counter usually.

Anyone know the spec on auto box oil?  When should it be changed? (miles/time).  Is it worth putting any of the miracle additives in?  I've no problems but as a sort of TLC...
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: aaronjb on 02 December 2011, 14:23:25
Any good Dex 3 ATF should be fine: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90664.0
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: albitz on 02 December 2011, 14:24:30
Advisable to change ATF at around 70,000 miles. Dont use additives of any kind. :y
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: M Kerr on 02 December 2011, 14:57:02
Cheers guys,

Mines just done 80k and is probably as old as the car.  I've had it 11 years I think and can't remember it being changed.  I'll get it done (without additives). :y
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 December 2011, 15:17:19
If it's limiting at 4.5k under any circumstances I would say it'd be worth reading the engine codes in case there's a cam sensor / knock sensor issue putting it into limp mode.
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 December 2011, 15:17:48
The above in addition to checking the auto gearbox, of course. :y
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 December 2011, 15:22:08
Mine quite often doesn't go as near to the red line as I'd like, when using kickdown/sport....

Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: omega2012 on 02 December 2011, 16:12:09
If it's limiting at 4.5k under any circumstances I would say it'd be worth reading the engine codes in case there's a cam sensor / knock sensor issue putting it into limp mode.

the car needs a crankshaft sensor, which is being sorted. would that have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 December 2011, 16:33:19
If it's limiting at 4.5k under any circumstances I would say it'd be worth reading the engine codes in case there's a cam sensor / knock sensor issue putting it into limp mode.

the car needs a crankshaft sensor, which is being sorted. would that have anything to do with it?

Yes!! ;D
Title: Re: Kick Down...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 December 2011, 10:17:19
If it's limiting at 4.5k under any circumstances I would say it'd be worth reading the engine codes in case there's a cam sensor / knock sensor issue putting it into limp mode.

the car needs a crankshaft sensor, which is being sorted. would that have anything to do with it?

Yes, that can confuse the gearbox since it also relies on the RPM signal from the engine ECU. Get that sorted and see where it leaves you. :y