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Title: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 10:52:52
Noticed it a couple of times in the last fortnight.
Start car from very cold at 5am, no lifer noise all fine
Select reverse let car back out under tick over turning towards left lock to get car pointing the right way
Select drive, release brake, apply throttle and turn towards right lock to drive off and get a loud tocotocotoc noise in time with engine revs. Only lasts 2 seconds at the most.

I've tried to pre-empt it by isolating revs and stearing inputs from cold before moving the car but it wont do it then at stand still. Ie reving at tick over, or moving the steering back and forth at tickover, all seems normal. Then drive off as described above as always and the noise apprears.
So it seems to be a combination of cold start, right lock(but not full lock) and applying throttle.... ???

Does sound like lifter noise from the drivers seat, much like Rusty Bullet had. Bag of gravel in there perhaps  ;D 

...although it does have a slight element of a squeak to it, so wondered if a water pump pully bolt might be too long and rubbing the housing as the aux belt takes more strain on lock from pas pump maybe? Its that sort of noise. Although full lock is not applied and afaik its the original pump going by the history.
 The steering is stiff on this car. Its currently set on a 1 lighter pas setting, cant remember the description, via tech 2 to try and achieve a normal feel from the steering. Its still stiff, but better.
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 10:54:08
Should add fluids are fine.
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: freecall666 on 05 December 2011, 11:00:19
is the belt slipping on the pump.?
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 December 2011, 11:08:14
I get a similar noise just when pulling away on a really cold morning. Always have done. Sounds like a lifter from within the car (only really noticeable with window open, TBH), but the lifters are quiet from startup and no reason they would rattle under a little load when quiet at idle.

I have a suspicion that it's a little piston slap.

Hasn't got any worse in 85K miles, though. In fact, I think it's not as bad as it was, or I've got used to it.
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: Michael2.6 on 05 December 2011, 14:03:21
This could be damp patches on the drive belts on a really cold morning

try some wd40 on the belts see if it makes any differents
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: Auto Addict on 05 December 2011, 14:37:51
Noticed it a couple of times in the last fortnight.
Start car from very cold at 5am, no lifer noise all fine
Select reverse let car back out under tick over turning towards left lock to get car pointing the right way
Select drive, release brake, apply throttle and turn towards right lock to drive off and get a loud tocotocotoc noise in time with engine revs. Only lasts 2 seconds at the most.

I've tried to pre-empt it by isolating revs and stearing inputs from cold before moving the car but it wont do it then at stand still. Ie reving at tick over, or moving the steering back and forth at tickover, all seems normal. Then drive off as described above as always and the noise apprears.
So it seems to be a combination of cold start, right lock(but not full lock) and applying throttle.... ???

Does sound like lifter noise from the drivers seat, much like Rusty Bullet had. Bag of gravel in there perhaps  ;D 

...although it does have a slight element of a squeak to it, so wondered if a water pump pully bolt might be too long and rubbing the housing as the aux belt takes more strain on lock from pas pump maybe? Its that sort of noise. Although full lock is not applied and afaik its the original pump going by the history.
 The steering is stiff on this car. Its currently set on a 1 lighter pas setting, cant remember the description, via tech 2 to try and achieve a normal feel from the steering. Its still stiff, but better.

German engineering -'Vee hav vays of makin you toc' ???
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 18:13:12
 Stone in the tyre...  ::)
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: Andy B on 05 December 2011, 18:16:14
Stone in the tyre...  ::)

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Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: joff on 05 December 2011, 18:18:33
This could be damp patches on the drive belts on a really cold morning

try some wd40 on the belts see if it makes any differents

 :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 18:21:13
;D
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 18:34:27
Or maybe water in the exhaust...?

Or maybeeee... No i'm all out of daft ideas.

SINCE WHEN DOES A rather BELT KNOCK INTERMITANTLY BY SLIPPING? wtf ;D ... Loose pully maybe.... (seriously now, come on stop messing about)
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 23:07:30
Well, it did it at lunch time off the drive. But not tonight at 10pm leaving work, when it was colder (8.5c) and i had room to reverse out in the same way. Odd!

Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: Gaffers on 06 December 2011, 00:42:11
Have you checked the seat-steering wheel interface?  If too heavy they can induce dragging noises, like knocking.... :D
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 06 December 2011, 01:27:20
Havent had a curry since... oooh, Saterday night. ;D so its not me on the seat. ;D
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: 2woody on 06 December 2011, 09:55:02
couple of flat balls in the steering box ?
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 06 December 2011, 11:13:29
Hmmm, might explane the heavy steering. But as i recall, the wheel position was stationary while turning on a constant arc, although holding the steering wheel against its centering resistance.

I was able to blip the throttle while turning on a constant arc, and got a tocatocatoca tocatocatoca tocatocatoca in time with engine revs. Until the steering straightened up and all was fine.  :-\

I presume the steering box moves in time with steering input? Not rpm?
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: 2woody on 06 December 2011, 13:04:46
I presume the steering box moves in time with steering input? Not rpm?

sort of !
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 07 December 2011, 00:42:43
Two starts today, not a peep.   :-\
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: feeutfo on 14 December 2011, 21:23:08
No problem with this since. OOF sorted another one then.  :y
Title: Re: Got a noise when pulling away from cold.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 December 2011, 10:15:39
Was it the WD40, or the sudden input of curry that cured it ::)