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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Shark1e on 26 December 2011, 07:16:37
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merry xmas all,
my P/S is activating on its own and sometimes whilst driving, been going off through the night and just gone off twice in space of an hour, i can only cut it off by inserting the ignition key and turning ingnition lights on and off, never heard it before in last 2 years.
Can anyone tell me how to get to it and what i should be looking at doing at it please, just gone off again as we speak.
My car battery has been getting slower at turning the old girl and just before it was changed last week, it would barely turn during the frosty morns, but as it was trying it would sound the P/S as it turned, the original was a 60amp 620cca (096 type) the new one is 95amp 730cca (017 type) engine turns mega fast now but noticed the P/S is chirping or sounding when i start the car.
can anyone advise please before neighbours start ripping my car apart to shut it up.
thanks inadvance rob
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can anyone advise please before neighbours start ripping my car apart to shut it up.
thanks inadvance rob
Disconnect & remove it! ;)
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Split from the original thread to avoid confuddlement.
As regards removal of powesounder, its covered in the maint guides. :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90633.0
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Hi All, looking for alarm power sounder and horn from mmega 2.5td 1999 T reg 90508618PJ - 06 23 18 3
anyone let me know if they have one please thanks rob
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Buy a new one or remove it completely. For the cost versus the risk of an unknown one self combusting, its not worth the risk.
I split your question from the other thread in electrical into its own thread, BTW.
In fact, I'll combine this one with your other thread as well.... :y
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power sounder removed along with horn as could not stand the sound any longer.
looks like batteries were dead barely any voltage tried to replace with new nimh but when plugged back in the sounder does not sound when alarm is activated and leaning through window for ultrasonics etc. indicators flash though lol lets hope any car thiefs are deaf any way lol one thing i noticed though was i grabbed the wiring loom that came out from alarm sounder area to the brake fluid sensor and pulled it and the sounder stopped, let go and it started again, this was prior to stripping it out,
guess i broke now lol
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could also of been the window smash sensors on your estate if fitted, mine gave me hell so just disconect them and the ecu tells itself its a saloon then and disables checking for smashed glass
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I had the same with my power sounder recently. Got a used one of ebay from a 2002 car,fine for 2 weeks then same problem. I have now removed it until i win the lottery so i can buy a new one. I think the batteries must have abour 10 years life before packing up,but if you do buy new,how long has it been on a shelf? :(
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I had the same with my power sounder recently. Got a used one of ebay from a 2002 car,fine for 2 weeks then same problem. I have now removed it until i win the lottery so i can buy a new one. I think the batteries must have abour 10 years life before packing up,but if you do buy new,how long has it been on a shelf? :(
Just my thoughts ... with no in-depth knowledge whatsoever ......
The powersounder batteries in your car have, for 10 years, been subject to charge/discharge cycles everytime you startup/switch off the engine, they have probably had a few thousand such cycles.
The powersounder batteries in a new unit may have been on a shelf for some time, but probably not 10 years as the same units are used in other cars, but have not been subject to any charge/discharge cycles since made.
My understanding of rechargeable batteries is that they have a limited number of cycles before they fail, and if left in a charged state suffer no ill effects of prolonged storage.
A new powersounder unit is about £60 (give or take a tad).... a replacement car a thousand-ish (give or take some fairly large tads depending on numerous factors)....
When mine started "beeping" it was a simple decision .. new unit = peace of mind ... it takes as long to remove the old one as it does to remove and replace with a new one.
Look at it this way .. the cost of a new one is less than the cost of a tank of fuel.
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I had the same with my power sounder recently. Got a used one of ebay from a 2002 car,fine for 2 weeks then same problem. I have now removed it until i win the lottery so i can buy a new one. I think the batteries must have abour 10 years life before packing up,but if you do buy new,how long has it been on a shelf? :(
Just my thoughts ... with no in-depth knowledge whatsoever ......
The powersounder batteries in your car have, for 10 years, been subject to charge/discharge cycles everytime you startup/switch off the engine, they have probably had a few thousand such cycles.
The powersounder batteries in a new unit may have been on a shelf for some time, but probably not 10 years as the same units are used in other cars, but have not been subject to any charge/discharge cycles since made.
My understanding of rechargeable batteries is that they have a limited number of cycles before they fail, and if left in a charged state suffer no ill effects of prolonged storage.
A new powersounder unit is about £60 (give or take a tad).... a replacement car a thousand-ish (give or take some fairly large tads depending on numerous factors)....
When mine started "beeping" it was a simple decision .. new unit = peace of mind ... it takes as long to remove the old one as it does to remove and replace with a new one.
Look at it this way .. the cost of a new one is less than the cost of a tank of fuel.
Entwood, you are absolutely bang on !!
Its called "maintenance" or "running costs"
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What is recommended:
New power sounder?
Or new batteries?
And where from?
Thanks
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What is recommended:
New power sounder?
Or new batteries?
And where from?
Thanks
Some folks threw them away.
Some folks bought a new one from the dealer.
Some folks fitted second hand.
Some folks took them apart and fitted new batterries.
Some folks did none of the above and watched the fire service put their car out.
Your choice but, personally, I went for option 2 as it kept the alarm system as designed and, potentially, the insurance company/assessor happy if and when they decide to have a visit.
;D
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Option 2 it is then
Ta.
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Your choice but, personally, I went for option 2 as it kept the alarm system as designed and, potentially, the insurance company/assessor happy if and when they decide to have a visit.
Cannot disagree with that at all !!
Readily available from a Main Dealer, and takes 10 minutes to change it
;)
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i rang arnold clark in stoke on trent and they want £196 for the power sounder part number GM90508618PJ
any ideas please as it would be appreciated, thanks rob
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i rang arnold clark in stoke on trent and they want £196 for the power sounder part number GM90508618PJ
any ideas please as it would be appreciated, thanks rob
Try this number 9194455
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Hello all
Over the last month or so I've had the alarm go off for no apparent reason, so i thought "time to change the powersounder", especially after reading this thread.
I've just phoned my local stealer, they said "it depends on which one you have".
Apparently there is a unit with the letters PJ on a label - that is £168 + VAT and is not a stock item.
If there are no letters as above, then it is £69 + VAT and is on the shelf.
Then it apparently needs to be programmed to the car???
I haven't removed the unit from my car yet, so I don't know which one it is. But does it really need to be programmed?
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Just remove it & bin it.
Given Vauxhall's dip in parts quality in recent years, I wouldn't be surprised if the replacement was cheaply made and just as likely to go bang.
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Just remove it & bin it.
For me, that is an option of last resort, simply because of the insurance implications.
How's the bike going, Tunnie? Not really been the best weather for it.
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Just remove it & bin it.
For me, that is an option of last resort, simply because of the insurance implications.
How's the bike going, Tunnie? Not really been the best weather for it.
I don't really believe of any insurance implications. Far more likely to pick up on head unit changed, non standard seats or something else if they are going to be that picky!
Omega's are not desirable, quite hard to steal. Most likey they would nick the keys, which renders powersounder irrelevant anyway.
You will also have far more grief with insurance, if it goes up in flames ;)
Bike, well was planning on Scotland as I after 17th May, I'm not back in work until June. But weather plus backlog of jobs to do, means this is unlikely. But thanks for asking
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Just had my power sounder removed at the Wycombe Meet...thanks Alan. :y
To be honest, I would rather my car not go up in flames ;) Why should you tell the insurance company about it anyway. I won't be. As far as they are concerned, some previous owner could have removed it. Signing a declaration is signing to 'the best of your knowledge and belief'.....which is different to 'I definately know'.........
Just my opinion.....
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I don't really believe of any insurance implications. Far more likely to pick up on head unit changed, non standard seats or something else if they are going to be that picky!
Omega's are not desirable, quite hard to steal. Most likey they would nick the keys, which renders powersounder irrelevant anyway.
You will also have far more grief with insurance, if it goes up in flames
It is mandatory for all UK cars after 1996 to have a thatcham approved immobiliser conforming to Category 2 standard - many manufacturers opted for the higher Thatcham Category 1 status that also included the powersounder. Although it could be argued that the Cat2 still remains if the sounder is removed, you would have to inform your insurers that you do not have an approved alarm system. But the problem that many face is that they treat the Cat1 and Cat2 as being installed at the same time, and removal , alteration or tampering with any part of the security system renders the full operation of it questionable - ie: they can (and do!) wriggle out of it.
It does happen, and I know many who have fallen foul of this over various marques - sadly it is NOT an old wives tale, and this urban myth actually has some credence.
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Hello all
Over the last month or so I've had the alarm go off for no apparent reason, so i thought "time to change the powersounder", especially after reading this thread.
I've just phoned my local stealer, they said "it depends on which one you have".
Apparently there is a unit with the letters PJ on a label - that is £168 + VAT and is not a stock item.
If there are no letters as above, then it is £69 + VAT and is on the shelf.
Then it apparently needs to be programmed to the car???
I haven't removed the unit from my car yet, so I don't know which one it is. But does it really need to be programmed?
I'm 99% sure that's bull