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Title: gas queery
Post by: Richie London on 18 January 2012, 13:15:50
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: RobG on 18 January 2012, 13:40:33
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
For gas
http://www.tools4trade.com/d-98512001-PTFE-Tape-12-mm-x-5-m-Gas-Spec.aspx
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Andy B on 18 January 2012, 13:45:23
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
For gas
http://www.tools4trade.com/d-98512001-PTFE-Tape-12-mm-x-5-m-Gas-Spec.aspx

I've never seen the advantage of gas specific PTFE  :-\ AFAIK it's the same as any other roll but a little thicker. I'd just put another couple of turns of 'normal' PTFE  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Richie London on 18 January 2012, 13:47:09
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
For gas
http://www.tools4trade.com/d-98512001-PTFE-Tape-12-mm-x-5-m-Gas-Spec.aspx


sorted. stuffed some rag in the hole and wrapped duct tape round it  :y
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Elite Pete on 18 January 2012, 13:53:26
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
For gas
http://www.tools4trade.com/d-98512001-PTFE-Tape-12-mm-x-5-m-Gas-Spec.aspx


sorted. stuffed some rag in the hole and wrapped duct tape round it  :y

Don't forget to run a lit match or lighter around it just to make sure its not leaking ::) ;D
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: RobG on 18 January 2012, 13:54:38
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
For gas
http://www.tools4trade.com/d-98512001-PTFE-Tape-12-mm-x-5-m-Gas-Spec.aspx


sorted. stuffed some rag in the hole and wrapped duct tape round it  :y
Should have got Tunnie to do it then ;D
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Richie London on 18 January 2012, 14:02:00
My neighbour has gone and got me some tape from screwfix. its only half a mile from me. can't get the bloody thing off its so tight and not much room for leverage.
Thanks  :y
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: the alarming man on 18 January 2012, 19:27:21
I want to take the gas cooker bayonet connector out the wall and cap it off so i can get my electric cooker right back to the wall. should i use ptf tape or plumbers putty or that hessian  cloth?
For gas
http://www.tools4trade.com/d-98512001-PTFE-Tape-12-mm-x-5-m-Gas-Spec.aspx


sorted. stuffed some rag in the hole and wrapped duct tape round it  :y

Don't forget to run a lit match or lighter around it just to make sure its not leaking ::) ;D



yeah you will only go bang once. :y
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: redelitev6 on 18 January 2012, 22:34:59
 ??? Don't think you're supposed to touch it at all mate,could be on very iffy ground( or rubble ! ) if it goes t**s up  :o
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: freecall666 on 19 January 2012, 03:07:38
??? Don't think you're supposed to touch it at all mate,could be on very iffy ground( or rubble ! ) if it goes t**s up  :o
True.......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Read the law.
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: aaronjb on 19 January 2012, 09:25:43
IIRC (as it's come up here many times in the past) - you're legally entitled to work on your own gas fittings, but not legally entitled to work on gas fittings 'for reward' unless you're GasSafe registered.

So I think Rich is quite free to blow himself up..
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: freecall666 on 19 January 2012, 10:05:47
IIRC (as it's come up here many times in the past) - you're legally entitled to work on your own gas fittings, but not legally entitled to work on gas fittings 'for reward' unless you're GasSafe registered.

So I think Rich is quite free to blow himself up..
no if he dose somthing that can damage another person or propety it is aganst the law, law was changed when the block of flats in london blown up by faulty gas pipe fittings that the owner fitted and killed them self and 13 others. as putting a stop valve or blocking top on apipe it has to be safty tested, when move house an enginer came out and fitted it to gas line. came round as said to them that was  leving property, same other way round putting a gas line to cooker.
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 January 2012, 10:12:42
IIRC (as it's come up here many times in the past) - you're legally entitled to work on your own gas fittings, but not legally entitled to work on gas fittings 'for reward' unless you're GasSafe registered.

So I think Rich is quite free to blow himself up..

I would buy myself a cheap manometer and drop test the installation afterwards, just to show "competence". At the end of the day, though, removal of a single fitting is not likely to be noticed. It's not like you're installing a whole boiler.

Then again, in a shared dwelling the potential liabilities are higher should something go wrong. It's not just going to be your life /  pile of bricks and mortar if the worst happens.
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 January 2012, 11:23:56
IIRC (as it's come up here many times in the past) - you're legally entitled to work on your own gas fittings, but not legally entitled to work on gas fittings 'for reward' unless you're GasSafe registered.

So I think Rich is quite free to blow himself up..
no if he dose somthing that can damage another person or propety it is aganst the law, law was changed when the block of flats in london blown up by faulty gas pipe fittings that the owner fitted and killed them self and 13 others. as putting a stop valve or blocking top on apipe it has to be safty tested, when move house an enginer came out and fitted it to gas line. came round as said to them that was  leving property, same other way round putting a gas line to cooker.

Actulay not the case but, the person doing the work must be able to demonstrate that the installation is safe so a drop test would be needed (not hard and this is in indicator of compitency).

This is where the likes of Gas Safe come in as they effectively run a club where by they maintain a list of compitent people and underwrite chargeable work.

Sadly its pretty meaningless as the checks are few and far between and a lot of the installs dont meet code or regs anyway!
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Matchless on 19 January 2012, 11:38:57
Had to use a Gas Safe fitter to make the final connection after I installed my own boiler last year (needed a cert. to get the Magic Boiler rebate).
He passed the system as safe even though a leak-down check had pressure falling to zero after 15mins. "Thats fine mate, they all leak a little bit. £90 please".

I investigated the fault myself and found a corroded pipe burried directly in a concrete floor. System now holds pressure for hours. did I get him back to  retest it? No.

Do the job yourself but do it properly and check it afterwards. If you have any doubt about your ability or level of knowledge then get someone in.
Also ask to see their Gas Safe ID card...there are a lot of fitters signing work off on a mates Reg. number. Unlike Corgi, all gas fitters have to have their own ID now to certify work.
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: redelitev6 on 19 January 2012, 17:49:33
IIRC (as it's come up here many times in the past) - you're legally entitled to work on your own gas fittings, but not legally entitled to work on gas fittings 'for reward' unless you're GasSafe registered.

So I think Rich is quite free to blow himself up..
I changed the flue on my boiler after damaging it when i renewed the expansion tank, got a real telling off from British gas engineer when he came to service it .
Title: Re: gas queery
Post by: Andy B on 19 January 2012, 17:53:02
.... got a real telling off from British gas engineer when he came to service it .

The bloke who changed my electric meter tried to tell me off when I'd told him that I'd changed my consumer unit. I think I was more qualified than him ....... and told him so. He wasn't happy  ::) ::) ::)


this was pre-Part P  ;)