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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Webby the Bear on 22 January 2012, 17:12:31
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Hi folks, hope you're all well.
I am going to be purchasing a broken Mig for me to ''practise'' on. I've spoken to my folks and they're happy to have it on their drive for when I want to work on it so it will be on a SORN.
I've spoke to a couple of guys on here about possible contenders (thanks for advice). I'm thinking one that needs as much doing as possible e.g. head gasket gone, so that I get to throw myself in at the deep end and try and fix it!
What are people's thoughts? Is it just a case of buying the cheapest one (looking to spend max £200 for a ''spares or repairs'' jobbie)?
*** Am I correct in that you don't need to insure or tax a SORN? If so at what point do I ''apply'' for the SORN.
**** And if there's anyone on here who would care to quote me on a towing service to get it to my folks that would be great!
Cheers.
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Probably get this one for less than £200 Steve ;D ;D ;D
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=45594.0
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hi folks, hope you're all well.
I am going to be purchasing a broken Mig for me to ''practise'' on. I've spoken to my folks and they're happy to have it on their drive for when I want to work on it so it will be on a SORN.
I've spoke to a couple of guys on here about possible contenders (thanks for advice). I'm thinking one that needs as much doing as possible e.g. head gasket gone, so that I get to throw myself in at the deep end and try and fix it!
What are people's thoughts? Is it just a case of buying the cheapest one (looking to spend max £200 for a ''spares or repairs'' jobbie)?
1) Am I correct in that you don't need to insure or tax a SORN? If so at what point do I ''apply'' for the SORN.
2) And if there's anyone on here who would care to quote me on a towing service to get it to my folks that would be great!
Cheers.
1) No ins. needed. If no tax, should already be SORN`d. If not on SORN, apply as soon as.
2) Depends from where to where
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Shit, got to nip out! Was just settling down with a bite to eat and OOF >:(
Be back shortly
Ps, i think i'd like a pre-FL. Trawling Egay and there's a cheap estate... will post link in a snizzle. :y
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Probably get this one for less than £2000 Steve ;D ;D ;D
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=45594.0
Hes right Steve. :y
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Probably get this one for less than £200 Steve ;D ;D ;D
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=45594.0
Hes right Steve. :y
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Shit, got to nip out! Was just settling down with a bite to eat and OOF >:(
Be back shortly
Ps, i think i'd like a pre-FL. Trawling Egay and there's a cheap estate... will post link in a snizzle. :y
One here F/L http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-2-16V-CD-5DR-BLACK-AUTO-ESTATE-Spares-Repair-/140682857672?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20c15a0cc8
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A very good idea and will be great for you to both learn on and get your confidence up. I'd suggest trying to get a V6 so it's the same as yours plus you'd have some spares if you needed them :y
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That's a great idea actually Webby, but why not get a facelift so that you'll at least have a source of spare parts for the inevitable times that yours will
f*** up go wrong?
EDIT: Great minds eh?
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Although thats a lot of car for the money,I would agree with LD. Get a V6,you wont learn much about working on your own car if you buy a 4 pot.If you learn your way around a V6 a 4 pot will seem very simple afterwards. :y
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Thanks for all the replies :y
That estate is a lot of car for the dosh!!! I've also PM'd Bigyin following his For Sale post.
Very true about working on the V6!
So in short, I find a car, agree to purchase, register a SORN, pay the seller, have it towed to my folks' house then Bingo... I can set about fkcuing it up fixing it. ;D
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Just one point to note Steve...
Even if the car is registered as SORN when you buy it, you will still need to register it as SORN yourself when you register it in your name, as the SORN declaration is not transferable from one owner to another. Also, the SORN only lasts a year, so if you keep it longer than that, you'll need to complete another SORN declaration. :y
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Thanks Twig. :y
So if I go to pick up a car, should I be insuring and taxing it up until I get the ownership paperwork from the DVLA and then register as SORN and then cancel the insurance?
:) :) :) :)
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so you have bought that elite then steve? give me a buzz if u need any help getting it :y
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Thanks for all the replies :y
That estate is a lot of car for the dosh!!! I've also PM'd Bigyin following his For Sale post.
Very true about working on the V6!
So in short, I find a car, agree to purchase, register a SORN, pay the seller, have it towed to my folks' house then Bingo... I can set about fkcuing it up fixing it. ;D
:y :y :y
I would've thought if it's being towed with wheels on the ground it'd still need to be insured and taxed though.
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No need to worry about tax, mot or insurance mate, as long as you are not driving it home (I'm assuming from your previous post that you are going to get the car recovered to your house by someone else?)
Go to this page...
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_4022058 (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_4022058)
About 1 page down from the top you'll see a link to download a .PDF of form V890. Click on it, print it off, fill it in, and bung it in the envelope with the registration form when you send it off to the DVLA...
Robert's your mother's brother!! ;)
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so you have bought that elite then steve? give me a buzz if u need any help getting it :y
Yes mate, from Ralf. I'm ringing round tomorrow to have it towed home. Do you do this, Dan? If so I'd much rather pay you!
Want to go pick it up on Saturday. PM me if you can or know someone. Cheers bro :y :y :y :y
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Cheers Twig, me and Ralf are going to do the form online when I pick up :y :y :y :y :y
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Thanks for all the replies :y
That estate is a lot of car for the dosh!!! I've also PM'd Bigyin following his For Sale post.
Very true about working on the V6!
So in short, I find a car, agree to purchase, register a SORN, pay the seller, have it towed to my folks' house then Bingo... I can set about fkcuing it up fixing it. ;D
:y :y :y
I would've thought if it's being towed with wheels on the ground it'd still need to be insured and taxed though.
Correct. :y If it isn't taxed and insured the only legal way is on a truck / trailer.
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can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps adey
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Thanks for all the replies folks.
I've enlisted the help of RobG's mate who is going to collect it on his truck (all 4 wheels off the ground).
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can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps adey
Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. ;)
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can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps adey
Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. ;)
Not wanting to create an argument but I have to say, I agree with you, Albs. If you haven't got tax or MOT then that means you must have a SORN... which in turn means there can be no wheels on the road.
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can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps adey
Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. ;)
Not wanting to create an argument but I have to say, I agree with you, Albs. If you haven't got tax or MOT then that means you must have a SORN... which in turn means there can be no wheels on the road.
I doubt that a trafpol who stopped you would take that as an answer. You were lucky! The way it was explained to be by a traffic officer I spoke to (quite a while back admittedly), if the vehicle has any wheels on the road, it must be taxed. The current law means that to be taxed it must have valid insurance and to have insurance it must have an MOT. :y
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can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps adey
Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. ;)
Not wanting to create an argument but I have to say, I agree with you, Albs. If you haven't got tax or MOT then that means you must have a SORN... which in turn means there can be no wheels on the road.
I doubt that a trafpol who stopped you would take that as an answer. You were lucky! The way it was explained to be by a traffic officer I spoke to (quite a while back admittedly), if the vehicle has any wheels on the road, it must be taxed. The current law means that to be taxed it must have valid insurance and to have insurance it must have an MOT. :y
Dead right! ;)
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Playing devils advocate here...
What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it? :-\
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Playing devils advocate here...
What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it? :-\
A car can legally be towed on an "A" frame to "a place of safety" if it has broken down and it could cause a danger/obstruction to other road users. It must also have a current MOT, RFL and insurance.
So that shoots your theory out of the water James ;D ;D
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Playing devils advocate here...
What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it? :-\
A car can legally be towed on an "A" frame to "a place of safety" if it has broken down and it could cause a danger/obstruction to other road users. It must also have a current MOT, RFL and insurance.
So that shoots your theory out of the water James ;D ;D
No theory implied Rob. My question is this really... when is a car no long classed as a car for taxation and insurance purposes? Over the years I have seen many a car that has been cut up to make a trailer to match the car towing it (hilux and calibra spring instantly to mind). These are effectively attached to the towing car via an a-frame, but are very much trailers, as there is no way they would pass a 'car' mot. There where is the line drawn?
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Playing devils advocate here...
What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it? :-\
I know someone who was advised that his car wasn't classed as a car when the engine and 'box were removed as long as it was covered.
It was parked in a private parking bay on the side of a road
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If you got the Estate with the furbared 2.0l engine, now all you need to type into Google "Monaro V8 engine for sale" and post a few wanted sites: Monaro V8 engine wanted, then you would have a real project on your hands! :y ;D ;D ;D
Go on Webby, you know you really want to. :y ;D ;D ;D