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[geoffr70]

Thanks for all the replies 

That estate is a lot of car for the dosh!!! I've also PM'd Bigyin following his For Sale post.

Very true about working on the V6!

So in short, I find a car, agree to purchase, register a SORN, pay the seller, have it towed to my folks' house then Bingo... I can set about fkcuing it up fixing it. 

 

I would've thought if it's being towed with wheels on the ground it'd still need to be insured and taxed though.

[twiglet]

No need to worry about tax, mot or insurance mate, as long as you are not driving it home (I'm assuming from your previous post that you are going to get the car recovered to your house by someone else?)

Go to this page...

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_4022058

About 1 page down from the top you'll see a link to download a .PDF of form V890.  Click on it, print it off, fill it in, and bung it in the envelope with the registration form when you send it off to the DVLA...

Robert's your mother's brother!! 

[Webby the Bear]

so you have bought that elite then steve? give me a buzz if u need any help getting it

Yes mate, from Ralf. I'm ringing round tomorrow to have it towed home. Do you do this, Dan? If so I'd much rather pay you!

Want to go pick it up on Saturday. PM me if you can or know someone. Cheers bro 

[Webby the Bear]

Cheers Twig, me and Ralf are going to do the form online when I pick up 

[Kevin Wood]

Thanks for all the replies 

That estate is a lot of car for the dosh!!! I've also PM'd Bigyin following his For Sale post.

Very true about working on the V6!

So in short, I find a car, agree to purchase, register a SORN, pay the seller, have it towed to my folks' house then Bingo... I can set about fkcuing it up fixing it. 

 

I would've thought if it's being towed with wheels on the ground it'd still need to be insured and taxed though.

Correct. If it isn't taxed and insured the only legal way is on a truck / trailer.

[adey2]

can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates  when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps     adey

[Webby the Bear]

Thanks for all the replies folks.

I've enlisted the help of RobG's mate who is going to collect it on his truck (all 4 wheels off the ground).

 

[albitz]

can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates  when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps     adey

Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. 

[Webby the Bear]

can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates  when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps     adey

Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. 

Not wanting to create an argument but I have to say, I agree with you, Albs. If you haven't got tax or MOT then that means you must have a SORN... which in turn means there can be no wheels on the road.

[Lazydocker]

can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates  when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps     adey

Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. 

Not wanting to create an argument but I have to say, I agree with you, Albs. If you haven't got tax or MOT then that means you must have a SORN... which in turn means there can be no wheels on the road.

I doubt that a trafpol who stopped you would take that as an answer. You were lucky! The way it was explained to be by a traffic officer I spoke to (quite a while back admittedly), if the vehicle has any wheels on the road, it must be taxed. The current law means that to be taxed it must have valid insurance and to have insurance it must have an MOT.

[Seth]

can pick up with a a-frame as becomes a trailer, no need for tax mot or insurance as covered on tow car,obviously tyres need to be ok, i know as got one and called mr plod to check legalities of it, only thing if a auto and engine non runner prop needs removing or it will fubar g/box, i did once manage to leave a car on tick over on the a-frame and g/box was fine cause oil still circulates  when got home, but i wouldnt advise to try yourself as was just practising and didnt need the auto box off car, hope this helps     adey

Im quite sure this is completely wrong.If the wheels are on the ground the car needs to have tax/ins./MOT. 

Not wanting to create an argument but I have to say, I agree with you, Albs. If you haven't got tax or MOT then that means you must have a SORN... which in turn means there can be no wheels on the road.

I doubt that a trafpol who stopped you would take that as an answer. You were lucky! The way it was explained to be by a traffic officer I spoke to (quite a while back admittedly), if the vehicle has any wheels on the road, it must be taxed. The current law means that to be taxed it must have valid insurance and to have insurance it must have an MOT.

Dead right!

[twiglet]

Playing devils advocate here...

What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it?   

[RobG]

Playing devils advocate here...

What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it?   

A car can legally be towed on an "A" frame to "a place of safety" if it has broken down and it could cause a danger/obstruction to other road users. It must also have a current MOT, RFL and insurance.
So that shoots your theory out of the water James

[twiglet]

Playing devils advocate here...

What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it?   

A car can legally be towed on an "A" frame to "a place of safety" if it has broken down and it could cause a danger/obstruction to other road users. It must also have a current MOT, RFL and insurance.
So that shoots your theory out of the water James

No theory implied Rob.  My question is this really... when is a car no long classed as a car for taxation and insurance purposes?  Over the years I have seen many a car that has been cut up to make a trailer to match the car towing it (hilux and calibra spring instantly to mind).  These are effectively attached to the towing car via an a-frame, but are very much trailers, as there is no way they would pass a 'car' mot.  There where is the line drawn?

[Lazydocker]

Playing devils advocate here...

What about if the car has no engine and/or gearbox in it?   

I know someone who was advised that his car wasn't classed as a car when the engine and 'box were removed as long as it was covered.

It was parked in a private parking bay on the side of a road